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post Nov 27 2019, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(common sense @ Nov 27 2019, 10:03 PM) *
I keep double posting. Gremlins in here.


Well you have been posting the same pro Tory propaganda for months now 😜
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post Nov 28 2019, 01:32 PM
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Corbyn gets a grilling in an interview. Boris Johnson gets to duck out of the interview and spread jam on scones (I mean, at least he got it the right way but that's neither here nor there). Christ this is blatant.



As Twitter thread above shows, the state of Tory control over our media is everywhere, it's beyond the BBC but they are at the centre of it. Kuenssberg just over the last 24 hours has retweeted Piers Morgan saying 'journalists should pummel Corbyn' before uncritically and literally sharing Dominic Cummings' Tory and Leave fanfiction of a blog.

It's becoming so ultimately clear what the Conservatives' plan has been, it's been going on for a while but right now it's mask f***ing off. Control the conversation, control the media, and you get to control democracy in your favour. That's what they have been working towards, and they've done it. Journalists at our state-sponsored media are sharing and amplfiying right-wing talking points while immediately questioning, downplaying and rubbishing any left media.

It's the legitimate way to turn a democracy into a one-party state with a 'natural party of government', propagandise the voters so they vote for you, even better, do it with an institution they have trusted and will accept their lines uncritically. Subtle persuasive language, add in some analysts to give their 'expert opinion', and people who do not question (which is most of the public) will never know.

to finish off, I guess they were having a normal one the other day:


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post Nov 28 2019, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(Tones and Iz @ Nov 28 2019, 01:32 PM) *
Corbyn gets a grilling in an interview. Boris Johnson gets to duck out of the interview and spread jam on scones (I mean, at least he got it the right way but that's neither here nor there). Christ this is blatant.



As Twitter thread above shows, the state of Tory control over our media is everywhere, it's beyond the BBC but they are at the centre of it. Kuenssberg just over the last 24 hours has retweeted Piers Morgan saying 'journalists should pummel Corbyn' before uncritically and literally sharing Dominic Cummings' Tory and Leave fanfiction of a blog.

It's becoming so ultimately clear what the Conservatives' plan has been, it's been going on for a while but right now it's mask f***ing off. Control the conversation, control the media, and you get to control democracy in your favour. That's what they have been working towards, and they've done it. Journalists at our state-sponsored media are sharing and amplfiying right-wing talking points while immediately questioning, downplaying and rubbishing any left media.

It's the legitimate way to turn a democracy into a one-party state with a 'natural party of government', propagandise the voters so they vote for you, even better, do it with an institution they have trusted and will accept their lines uncritically. Subtle persuasive language, add in some analysts to give their 'expert opinion', and people who do not question (which is most of the public) will never know.

to finish off, I guess they were having a normal one the other day:



It's working I just had a conversation with my mother, someone who relies solely on the BBC, about how the US-UK NHS trade documents were 'fake news' because Laura Kuenssberg on BBC News had suggested so. It's hard not to sound like a conspiracy theorist when arguing with anyone who sees the BBC as completely impartial and factual.
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post Nov 28 2019, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Nov 27 2019, 10:05 PM) *
Well you have been posting the same pro Tory propaganda for months now 😜


Very droll.
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post Nov 28 2019, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Nov 28 2019, 03:08 PM) *
Very droll.


I can't help myself!
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That is VILE. That is Putin levels of propaganda and I hope the electoral commission rakes them over the coals over this. They are ACTIVELY trying to get young people not to register to vote. This is obviously done to protect rhe Tories.

We have Tory Laura Nick Robinson whose links to the Tories run DEEEP, to say the least, plants all over ToryTime, and Andrew Neil, before we even mention that hard right old radio presenter who WE ALL KNEW WAS BIASED! He then ran to the Daily Mail after retiring, claiming he COULDN'T reveal his Tory views on the BBTory. Oh, really, then how did we all know? rotf.gif The fact that Andrew Neil, extremely right wing can be on the BBTory, but someone of a similar hardline position but on the LEFT being on the BBTory would be unthinkable, shows how big the problem is with the BBTory. It can't pretend to be neutral with people like him, Laura and Nick running around.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2...vOAybvjPphou9Bw

BBTory has had to apologise over cutting out laughter, showing a three year old clip they had to get out the archives to save Bojo embarrassment over his memorial blunder, after first trying to defend both decisions!

Here we have the problems with Tory Time. First up, the Tory plant they keep wheeling out who was chosen to ask Qs to JC:

[Utl]https://dorseteye.com/ryan-jacobz-the-tory-plant-that-bbc-question-time-cannot-get-enough-of/?fbclid=IwAR2EdXKiG4PqFK0T-Aqn24BbWp7SR-aEpYI1LNzKnZT930ahHnaDRSXYsuk[/url]

A lot of Tory councillors are getting chosen, whoch is odd, as that shouldn't be allowed, and all other parties are under the impression that it's not...

Not sure how to embed tweets:

https://mobile.twitter.com/stevebrookstein/...Ti3jEFH2gk0CiO0

So the BBTory protected the Tories by searching for a part in the show where he said the same word to use that and to replace the laughter with applause. That should be a massive scandal in and of itself.

Here is the BBTory admitting it was a "mistake"!

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/bbc-admits-to-making-a-mistake-when-it-edited-footage-of-audience-reactions-to-boris-johnson/25/11/?fbclid=IwAR3xsAlxqDcHmWioLK5H0g0X-guUAKq4oUazD04WHr0LdHRY2oCBYc4BjBs[/url

The Canary explains why their excuses are pathetic:


[Url=]https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/bbc-admits-to-making-a-mistake-when-it-edited-footage-of-audience-reactions-to-boris-johnson/25/11/?fbclid=IwAR3xsAlxqDcHmWioLK5H0g0X-guUAKq4oUazD04WHr0LdHRY2oCBYc4BjBs://https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/n...dHRY2oCBYc4BjBs


https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2019/11/2...lD03uvQ2GeG_sYE

Here is Preston claiming that Bojo WAS ALWAYS AGAINST AUSTERITY!! WOW!!

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/boris-joh...tion-500869?amp


Here is Ofcom stating that the BBTory is at risk of destroying trust in it for a generation:

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/medi...NTOVMeJP-kQxduA

It won't last. Thanks to all its pro government propaganda, it is finished when the one party state government finally gets the boot.

And here is a great piece on how the BBTory "mistskes" ALWAYS benefit the Tories but are bad for Labour. Funny that.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/nov/25/bbc-admits-mistake-in-editing-out-laughter-at-johnson-in-tv-debate?fbclid=IwAR199K1JNkcpW4A3Mxr1kdHMyVYfOfZbIBqIjv8g4PFFDvvdUYcsOV39FrQ[/url!]

Aaand here's Hugh Edwards RUSHING to the defence of the BBTory and getting absolutely slammed for his ridiculous excuses.

[=url]https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2019/11/25/huw-edwards-slams-crackers-people-who-take-issue-with-the-bbc-editing-audience-reactions/?fbclid=IwAR3Zx97-tH26SUetUgnsCAy4lp_KkPivwFPoNnAtDE3Frs8BbLOlq7uoQS0://https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...rs8BbLOlq7uoQS0


And here are itv and BBTory referencing THE SMALLEST DEBATE POLL to try and say it was a draw, like Tory Laura, or that Bojo won, from a poll THAT WAS RELEASED BEFORE IT EVEN ENDED!!

https://skwawkbox.org/2019/11/20/video-youg...Nz_Kx6NlAeuAEQs

Yougov interview 1.9k people, BritainElects interviewed 39,000, and there were other similar polls showing the same, with Corbyn smashing Bojo in ALLbut that torygov one, and it wasn't close. We were talking about 70% Corbyn victories. Other polls showed him winning with the undecided voters - again, by massive margins. And yet BBTiry and ITV, plus the Tory press, o ly reported the tiny yougov one that was released before the debate ended laugh.gif
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post Nov 28 2019, 07:01 PM
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LOL!! I got you, beeb!



Thr channel has to go. It has lost all credibility.
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QUOTE(Big Boobs Vjay! @ Nov 28 2019, 07:01 PM) *
Thr channel has to go. It has lost all credibility.


Never mind everything non-Newsy it does?
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post Nov 30 2019, 01:19 PM
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Shame on the BBC for using the fatal stabbing of two people as an excuse to let Johnson grandstand without scrutiny.


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Shame on the BBC for using the fatal stabbing of two people as an excuse to let Johnson grandstand without scrutiny.


And if he *hadn't*, you would do doubt accuse him of dodging the cameras... rolleyes.gif
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Absolutely dusgraceful. They buckped the SECOND the Tories threatened them. Weak. It has no place as a state broadcaster. Axe.

Morw on that, the BBTory Trust found Tory Laura's latest Corbyn reporting to be "inaccurate". It really shows how the channel leans when someone as biased and as obvious a Tory as her is allowed to run the show.
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Nov 30 2019, 03:06 PM) *
And if he *hadn't*, you would do doubt accuse him of dodging the cameras... rolleyes.gif

What makes you think that? When will you accept that the incoherent oaf is afraid of anything remotely resembling proper scrutiny?
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QUOTE(Big Boobs Vjay! @ Nov 30 2019, 03:24 PM) *
Absolutely dusgraceful. They buckped the SECOND the Tories threatened them. Weak. It has no place as a state broadcaster. Axe.



AXE THE BBC? You must be joking. It's known worldwide and has an international reutation for fairness. What channel do people turn to in a dire emergency? The BBC.
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ Nov 30 2019, 01:19 PM) *
Shame on the BBC for using the fatal stabbing of two people as an excuse to let Johnson grandstand without scrutiny.



What are you on about? He was scheduled to appear on Marr before the stabbings happened and will be scrutinised by him!
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Bojo is a WEAK WORM. BBTory is little better for letting him escape scrutiny after LYING to yhe left wing opposition parties by saying Bojo would also face the NOTORIOUSLY RIGHT WING Neil.
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Come On Boris, Get On Neil. You can do it. Silence your critics and sock it to him.


I agree he should go on.
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QUOTE(Big Boobs Vjay! @ Nov 30 2019, 03:24 PM) *
Absolutely dusgraceful. They buckped the SECOND the Tories threatened them. Weak. It has no place as a state broadcaster. Axe.

Morw on that, the BBTory Trust found Tory Laura's latest Corbyn reporting to be "inaccurate". It really shows how the channel leans when someone as biased and as obvious a Tory as her is allowed to run the show.



She's not running the show though Michael. She has bosses. She's only a reporter, the political editor. She has senior editors and the head of news above her.
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The weak and wobbly etonian SENT HIS DAD AROUND TV TO DEFEND HIM!! He signals for interviewers to stop questions ANGRILY and they comply, as he is their overlord. WEAK.
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QUOTE(common sense @ Nov 30 2019, 04:30 PM) *
What are you on about? He was scheduled to appear on Marr before the stabbings happened and will be scrutinised by him!

No he wasn't. Johnson wanted to appear on the programme but the BBC said he had to agree to an interview with Andrew Neil first. He refused, so the BBC said he wouldn't be on Marr.

Marr is not as incisive an interviewer as Neil. Why do you think Johnson is so keen to avoid the latter?
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No he wasn't. Johnson wanted to appear on the programme but the BBC said he had to agree to an interview with Andrew Neil first. He refused, so the BBC said he wouldn't be on Marr.

Marr is not as incisive an interviewer as Neil. Why do you think Johnson is so keen to avoid the latter?



Oh sorry I hadn't heard that about them keeping him off unless he went on Neil.

Marr can be a bit like a dog with a bone with a question though and keep asking it to try and get an answer.
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