Why does '7 rings' have more views than 'thank u, next'?

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Jade View member profile	30th January 2020, 09:55 AM Post #1
Alone and wounded Pronouns: She/her Joined: 18 January 2011 Posts: 60,191 User: 12,810	Back in May we had a 'thank u, next' vs. '7 rings' poll and it was agreed that 'thank u, next' had a bigger impact - with a whopping 28 votes to 3. However, as it stands '7 rings' has 684 million YouTube views compared to 473 million for 'thank u, next', '7 rings' reached 1 billion Spotify streams quicker and had an extra week at #1 in the U.S. So despite the overwhelming feeling that 'thank u, next' had a bigger impact, why are these numbers for '7 rings' more impressive? Discuss away ~


p a v View member profile	30th January 2020, 10:03 AM Post #2
thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch Joined: 25 September 2007 Posts: 79,278 User: 4,397	7 rings is more ikonek x


Jade View member profile	30th January 2020, 10:03 AM Post #3
Alone and wounded Pronouns: She/her Joined: 18 January 2011 Posts: 60,191 User: 12,810	I still stand by the fact that 'thank u, next' had more of a cultural impact. It's a phrase ingrained in society now and still feels like Ariana's biggest song despite the numbers highlighted above - taking the U.K. as an example, it's still about 200k ahead in sales here. I guess '7 rings' lends itself to repeat plays more on party playlists perhaps? Plus the trappy production feels very streaming friendly. Also the success of 'thank u, next' gave it a springboard to be huge as well - although I didn't quite anticipate how much of a monster it would become in its own right. I'm still a bit baffled that the '7 rings' video is so far ahead in views when the 'thank u, next' one was built up to be such an event though. I love both videos and would say the replay-ability factor is about the same for me. Would love to hear your thoughts ~ Also yes '7 rings' is rather ikonek


JulianNial View member profile	30th January 2020, 10:08 AM Post #4
Julian Nial Joined: 13 March 2013 Posts: 6,383 User: 18,454	One of my theories, that probably made little impact the more I think about it is.... Have you ever been to a house party where they use YouTube as the music source and put the music video on the TV or what not... 7 rings made it to more parties than thank u, next.


LouisL View member profile	30th January 2020, 10:11 AM Post #5
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 28 September 2017 Posts: 3,967 User: 42,419	The thank u, next mv came out nearly a month after the song came out, so only people who wanted to see the video would watch it not people who wanted to hear the song as well. If you add in the official audio on YT for thank u, next its only 50m behind 7 rings anyway. Also if you're just looking to listen to the song you can listen to the 7 rings music video, but the tun one has too much talking and extended parts


Jessie Where View member profile	30th January 2020, 10:24 AM Post #6
Break the tension Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 89,016 User: 51	QUOTE(Juliano @ Jan 30 2020, 10:08 AM) One of my theories, that probably made little impact the more I think about it is.... Have you ever been to a house party where they use YouTube as the music source and put the music video on the TV or what not... 7 rings made it to more parties than thank u, next. That's an important point, if we're playing music via YouTube I will opt for an official audio or lyric video if the official video has a long intro or lots of talking.


Frenchie View member profile	30th January 2020, 10:56 AM Post #7
BuzzJack Gold Member Pronouns: he/him Joined: 13 May 2018 Posts: 2,323 User: 72,030	I reckon its a combination of Thank U, Next building up her profile along with anticipation for the album and it having a more Spotify sound. Still seems crazy that they both have over 200 million more streams on Spotify than ntltc which seemed equally as big at the time.


Jordanlee View member profile	30th January 2020, 11:36 AM Post #8
Jord Joined: 12 March 2017 Posts: 10,774 User: 27,116	It’s more urban sounding what probably helps in terms of streaming on Spotify. That’s the main thing I can think of. But I wouldn’t have thought the gap would’ve been as big as it is. It’s more of a party anthem too and like a real club banger. TUN sort is is too but 7 rings is the one I hear the most when I go out of the two. I wonder what the difference is on paid for sales. This post has been edited by Jordan Lee: 30th January 2020, 11:47 AM


J00prstar View member profile	30th January 2020, 01:33 PM Post #9
there's nothing straight about plump Elvis Pronouns: they/any Joined: 21 January 2016 Posts: 13,146 User: 22,895	7 rings is sexier.


TheSnake View member profile	30th January 2020, 02:06 PM Post #10
Say that hiss with your chest, and... Joined: 24 May 2016 Posts: 18,472 User: 23,308	As Jordan Lee said, because its a better song to dance to.


Cowboy Cody View member profile	30th January 2020, 02:23 PM Post #11
new hair, new tee, new Levii’s Jeans Joined: 24 October 2014 Posts: 39,315 User: 21,308	The obvious answer is length thank u next has an intro and an interlude with Jennifer Coolidge, the 7 rings video is literally just the song. what would have more playability when a youtube playlist is left alone in a house party? obviously the one with no interludes. This can be offset by cultural impact (BTS - Fake Love comes to mind) or personal preference (maybe TUN burned out more quickly than 7 rings did) but otherwise that’s the answer I’m sticking with


Brer View member profile	31st January 2020, 01:10 AM Post #12
is my brain across your walls? Joined: 14 February 2009 Posts: 115,093 User: 8,300	QUOTE(LMLou @ Jan 30 2020, 10:11 AM) The thank u, next mv came out nearly a month after the song came out, so only people who wanted to see the video would watch it not people who wanted to hear the song as well. If you add in the official audio on YT for thank u, next its only 50m behind 7 rings anyway. Also if you're just looking to listen to the song you can listen to the 7 rings music video, but the tun one has too much talking and extended parts Yeah I think this is the reason for most of the discrepancy. 'thank u, next' has 718m combining the video, audio and lyric video compared to 729m for '7 rings' with the video and audio combined. That's only considering the uploads on her official channel though (both have many more millions of views from uploads on other random channels, including an unofficial lyric video for '7 rings' having 152m views _)


troylovesmusic View member profile	31st January 2020, 01:17 AM Post #13
BuzzJack Platinum Member Joined: 12 December 2009 Posts: 5,174 User: 10,179	7 Rings is a more party turn up song and it's more Urban sounding so it will appeal to more people where as Thank You Next would just appear to the Pop Crowd. This post has been edited by troylovesmusic: 31st January 2020, 01:17 AM