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Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 7 2016, 10:34 AM

Connor Ball ‏@TheVampsCon 2h2 hours ago
So for those that didn't hear on the radio... Our new single may be coming to your ears next week 😏 be ready

Cannot wait!!

Posted by: jase. Oct 7 2016, 10:36 PM

These guys are my guilty pleasure so I'm looking forward to some new music biggrin.gif

Posted by: mr_pmt Oct 7 2016, 10:54 PM

QUOTE(jase. @ Oct 7 2016, 11:36 PM) *
These guys are my guilty pleasure so I'm looking forward to some new music biggrin.gif


Same!

Such a shame 'Volcano' was wasted though. sad.gif

Posted by: ThePensmith Oct 9 2016, 05:53 PM

I loved "Wake Up" and much of their last album. Am I right in saying they have a book out this week as well?

Posted by: twentyonemdh Oct 9 2016, 06:32 PM

Was thinking about these guys earlier ohmy.gif

Hope it's good - I expect the fanbase will make it go top 40.

Posted by: cqmerqn Oct 9 2016, 06:39 PM

I really hope they get another hit sad.gif

I haven't listened to their albums but I really did enjoy all of their singles, especially from album 1!

Posted by: ___∆___ Oct 9 2016, 09:14 PM

Loved their last album although I was expecting them to be dropped as it was a bit of a flop era for them in terms of chart positions and sales.

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 9 2016, 09:24 PM

I expect they make enough money from touring and merchandise to make up for the underwhelming chart success!

Posted by: cqmerqn Oct 9 2016, 10:25 PM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Oct 9 2016, 10:24 PM) *
I expect they make enough money from touring and merchandise to make up for the underwhelming chart success!

True... I'd guess that having a chart his is just seen as a bonus laugh.gif (to them of course)

Posted by: pippa Oct 10 2016, 01:34 PM

This era is likely make or break for them as their last album campaign and singles were a disaster.

Posted by: liamk97 Oct 10 2016, 02:18 PM

Yeah, I feel like it could be make or break this time, although like Joseph said, they may be safe if they continue to bring in the money with touring and merch, as they clearly still have a loyal fanbase.

I seem to recall 'Wake Up' was an OA/OS release but this was at the point where this strategy was about to take off (what with Justin Bieber in particular triumphing with it) so hopefully, now that it's become the norm and record companies are learning how to treat and handle such releases, The Vamps will have a better chance at doing well instead of getting good first week sales before dropping like a stone. I'm not totally sure 'Wake Up' was the best song choice either, but that's going down a more subjective path.

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 12 2016, 12:43 PM

Confirmed via live stream that it's called All Night and is a collaboration with Matoma ohmy.gif ohmy.gif Really exciting collaboration, cannot wait! Premieres during Capital drivetime tomorrow night and is out officially on Friday biggrin.gif



(not sure exactly what the credit is, if Matoma is joint lead or a feature but I'll correct it when we know for sure)

Posted by: honeyG Oct 12 2016, 01:35 PM

MATOMA?!?

Surprised The Vamps are still deemed relevant enough to get him on board with their song, but if it means I'll actually enjoy it then yay

Posted by: Inna Selez Oct 12 2016, 04:00 PM

Here is a teaser.


Posted by: mr_pmt Oct 12 2016, 04:48 PM

QUOTE(honeyG @ Oct 12 2016, 02:35 PM) *
MATOMA?!?

Surprised The Vamps are still deemed relevant enough to get him on board with their song, but if it means I'll actually enjoy it then yay


Is he really that big though?

As for the preview, sounds quite 'inspired' by that current Chainsmokers-esque sound. I'm already tiring of it, I hope it doesn't go on for as long as tropical has.

Posted by: Tombo Oct 12 2016, 06:04 PM

I look forward to hearing it in full, Wake Up had some really good songs and props to them for getting another album

Posted by: jase. Oct 12 2016, 07:58 PM

Well Matoma's behind one of my favourite records of 2016 ('False Alarm') so this can only be a good thing biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cucumberella Oct 12 2016, 08:20 PM

oh im intrigued!!

Posted by: twentyonemdh Oct 12 2016, 09:34 PM

Ohh this is sounding quite fresh - I do hope we see tropical vibes throughout and not just a tropical frop in among pop because that doesn't work with me. Very gentle synths isn't something we see much so it'll be interesting to hear this.

Posted by: Cameron Oct 13 2016, 12:06 PM

This is the best thing they've done since Somebody To You wub.gif

Posted by: Klumzee Oct 13 2016, 12:09 PM

QUOTE(twentyonemdh @ Oct 12 2016, 10:34 PM) *
Ohh this is sounding quite fresh - I do hope we see tropical vibes throughout and not just a tropical frop in among pop because that doesn't work with me. Very gentle synths isn't something we see much so it'll be interesting to hear this.


you are such a poet mdh cool.gif

also the song is SO GOOD ohmy.gif - I mean of course it's jumping on the bandwagon and it could've been any male vocalist but they've done really well and it manages to be quite anthemic along with being 'tropical/laidback'. Maybe my fave Vamps song?

Posted by: Joe. Oct 13 2016, 01:27 PM

QUOTE(Cameron @ Oct 13 2016, 01:06 PM) *
This is the best thing they've done since Somebody To You wub.gif


This 100%

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 13 2016, 11:28 PM

This is SO SO GOOD!!! I've been waiting until it's officially released to hear it and on one listen I'm totally sold, much more instant than Wake Up was for me. Incredibly current and very radio friendly, will be a crime if it's not huge.

Posted by: HausofTravis Oct 14 2016, 05:16 AM

This is FANTASTIC wub.gif Instant love, I'm so impressed <3

Posted by: twentyonemdh Oct 14 2016, 07:05 AM

QUOTE(Klumzee @ Oct 13 2016, 01:09 PM) *
you are such a poet mdh cool.gif


wink.gif

This is sounding fantastic, really love the tropical influences and their vocals are sounding not-annoying for once. I really hope this can take off in the way that Wild Heart and Can We Dance? did.

Posted by: RobBob Oct 14 2016, 04:54 PM

Absolutely loving this, it is quite a bandwagon jump for The Vamps but I can't say I blame them as their sound was starting to tire a bit, clearly with the public aswell. It still feels quite anthemic as most of their songs do though to retain a certain feel whilst sounding super commercial and chart ready. Another fantastic Matoma track, glad to hear he's not just becoming a Kygo who just repeats the same formula with each track.

Posted by: cqmerqn Oct 14 2016, 11:03 PM

I am loving this! A hit surely?

Posted by: Josh. Oct 15 2016, 09:18 AM

Don't really like this much at all, I know their last era didn't really go to plan but the ongoing sound of Wake Up/Rest Your Love from Can We Dance/Last Night etc. really worked for me, all their older tracks are guilty pleasure tunes whereas this doesn't even sound like Brad and has this weird drop awkwardly inserted. I mean it's OK but I'm disliking it more because I know the catchy choruses they're capable of.

Posted by: Aaron. Oct 16 2016, 02:49 PM

I love this, It's been stuck in my head after two listens already.
I've loved both of their albums. Shame they're not getting the success they need. I hope we can squeeze another album out of them.

Posted by: 24k Cody Oct 18 2016, 01:17 PM

Is it just me or has Brad gotten rid of the prepubescent look

Posted by: pippa Oct 18 2016, 03:24 PM

I like the Vamps but i think this song is extremely weak, i was going to say terrible but that is a bit harsh, easily their worst single to date.

Posted by: jase. Oct 20 2016, 09:25 PM

QUOTE(pippa @ Oct 18 2016, 04:24 PM) *
I like the Vamps but i think this song is extremely weak, i was going to say terrible but that is a bit harsh, easily their worst single to date.


I Found a Girl feat. Omi says hello

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 20 2016, 09:31 PM

1. Can We Dance
2. Wild Heart
3. Oh Cecilia (Breaking My Heart)
4. Last Night
5. Somebody to You
6. All Night
7. Wake Up
8. I Found a Girl
9. Rest Your Love

^ my rank. I love them all really, although the debut album taking up the top 5 and Wake Up taking up the bottom 3 oops drama.gif All Night could climb in the future!

Posted by: Josh. Oct 20 2016, 09:36 PM

Well this has grown on me massively, still not as good as their poppiest catchiest tunes but it still has a strong hook and is in my head a lot atm.

Singles rank time!

1 Last Night
2 Can We Dance
3 Rest Your Love
4 All Night
5 Wake Up
6 Wild Heart
7 Oh Cecilia (Breaking My Heart)
8 Somebody to You
9 I Found a Girl

RYL is so underrated sad.gif

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 20 2016, 09:40 PM

Rest Your Love is basically "good album track" to me rather than single material sad.gif Volcano was such a missed opportunity drama.gif

I was talking to a couple of Vamps fans after their book signing earlier (didn't get to speak to the band really but Connor remembered me from before, he was very sweet heart.gif), they were both disappointed in this single, which is a shame, although thankfully it seems most of the fanbase is on board and hasn't been alienated by the shift in sound!

Two physicals + download bundle is out 4th November biggrin.gif

Posted by: mr_pmt Oct 20 2016, 09:57 PM

I do actually think 'Wake Up' has emerged as my favourite of theirs, it deserved SO much better. sad.gif 'Volcano' was a definite missed opportunity, they needed that immediately and effectively wasted away the era (although there's no guarantee it'd have helped much, really).

1. Wake Up
2. Somebody To You
3. Can We Dance
4. Wild Heart
5. Last Night
6. Rest Your Love
7. All Night
8. I Found A Girl
9. Oh Cecilia (Breaking My Heart)

Top 4 = fantastic!

Posted by: RobBob Oct 20 2016, 10:03 PM

01 Somebody To You
02 All Night
03 Wild Heart
04 Wake Up
05 Last Night
06 Rest Your Love
07 Can We Dance
08 Oh Cecilia (Breaking My Heart)
09 I Found A Girl

The top 3 are all fantastic, maybe top 4. The bottom 3 are all crap. So they can be quite hit & miss but this is definitely a hit.

Posted by: Ja˙ Oct 21 2016, 04:05 AM

1 Somebody To You
2 All Night
3 Last Night
4 Wake Up
5 Wild Heart
6 Can We Dance
7 Oh Cecilia (Breaking My Heart)
8 I Found A Girl
9 Rest Your Love

I think I only heard Rest Your Love once, I didn't give it much of a chance for some reason. I really like my Top 5 songs, can take or leave 6/7/8. All Night is great, I hope it goes on to do very well for them!

Posted by: cqmerqn Oct 21 2016, 06:49 AM

01 Wake Up
02 All Night
03 Somebody To You
04 Last Night
05 Oh Cecilia (Breaking My Heart)
06 Can We Dance
07 Wild Heart
08 I Found A Girl
09 Rest Your Love (never heard it)

The top 7 are easily at least 8/10.

Posted by: jase. Oct 21 2016, 12:19 PM

So I'm still undecided. I think their vocals annoy the shit out of me on this but I really, really like the production.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 Oct 21 2016, 01:11 PM

1 Can We Dance
2 Somebody to You
3 Wake Up
4 Oh Cecilia (Breaking My Heart)
5 Wild Heart
6 Rest Your Love
7 Last Night
8 All Night
9 I Found a Girl

CWD & STY are still miles ahead of the rest and are 2 of my favourite ever boyband tracks, Wake Up/Cecilia/Wild Heart are all ok and I hate the other 4.

Posted by: Joe. Oct 21 2016, 01:20 PM

1 Somebody to You
2 Can We Dance
3 All Night
4 I Found a Girl
5 Wake Up
6 Rest Your Love
7 Last Night
8 Oh Cecilia (Breaking My Heart)
9 Wild Heart


I'm not sure if they'll ever top Somebody To You.

Posted by: liamk97 Oct 23 2016, 10:51 AM

1. Can We Dance
2. Somebody to You
3. Wild Heart
4. Wake Up
5. All Night
6. Last Night
7. I Found a Girl
8. Oh Cecilia
9. Rest Your Love

Kind of hard to place 'All Night' among songs that are pure pop but I think its placing is right. Could quite easily work its way up to #3, but I really love that Top 2.

Posted by: mr_pmt Oct 25 2016, 09:19 PM

I've grown to really like this now! Shame it'll be stuck with a peak just outside the top 40. sad.gif

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 25 2016, 09:22 PM

It has every chance of repeaking in the future! Airplay is looking better than last era and it has physicals out on 4th November so it's far from over for this.

Posted by: ___∆___ Oct 26 2016, 03:19 AM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Oct 25 2016, 09:22 PM) *
It has every chance of repeaking in the future! Airplay is looking better than last era and it has physicals out on 4th November so it's far from over for this.


So hope this can become a hit. Hopefully they will really go after streaming in the physical release week and reduce the download to 59p for an added boost.

Posted by: cqmerqn Oct 27 2016, 02:56 PM

This is definitely going to be a hit, it's just a matter of time!

Posted by: Cody Krueger Oct 27 2016, 03:53 PM

Today's dance staples like Matoma tend to get more organic chart runs where they grow into being hits, so I think the same can be true with this.

Ranking:
1.) "Wild Heart"
2.) "Somebody To You"
3.) "Can We Dance"
4.) "All Night"
5.) "Wake Up"
6.) "Oh Cecilia (Breaking My Heart)"
7.) "I Found A Girl"
8.) "Last Night"
9.) "Rest Your Love"

I just find the last three basic. "Wild Heart" is an ANTHEM.

Posted by: ___∆___ Oct 27 2016, 04:49 PM

QUOTE(cqmerqn @ Oct 27 2016, 02:56 PM) *
This is definitely going to be a hit, it's just a matter of time!


Have to say I'm not convinced, it's likely to drop out of the Top 75 this week (It was #69 in the first set of mids). The physical will likely only boost it by 1,000 copies so they have a hard slog ahead of them to climb back up the charts - hope I'm TOTALLY wrong but I just can't see them getting the traction needed to for it to recover.

Posted by: ___∆___ Oct 27 2016, 04:49 PM

Double posted

Posted by: JosephStyles Oct 27 2016, 05:02 PM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ Oct 27 2016, 05:49 PM) *
Have to say I'm not convinced, it's likely to drop out of the Top 75 this week (It was #69 in the first set of mids). The physical will likely only boost it by 1,000 copies so they have a hard slog ahead of them to climb back up the charts - hope I'm TOTALLY wrong but I just can't see them getting the traction needed to for it to recover.


This is 2016 though, most songs climb to their peak, this is quite clearly expected to be one of those songs going by its release strategy so far, I don't see any reason to write it off. They tend to sell more than 1k physicals though, particularly when 2 are available in a bundle alongside a digital download (so 3 sales per bundle bought), alongside a tour presale code as an incentive. It's ridiculously early to write it off at this point. If it were failing to pick up in 3-4 weeks' time, then we can write it off.

Posted by: ___∆___ Nov 3 2016, 03:27 AM

arrow down.gif 88 on the mids in its 3rd week but back in the iTunes Top 40, hoping they get a boost/promo soon

Posted by: Martyn Nov 3 2016, 06:48 AM

Radio 1 are starting to pick up on this. There may be life in it yet.

Posted by: HausofHorrors Nov 3 2016, 06:51 AM

There had better be! This deserves to be huge :'(

Posted by: JosephStyles Nov 3 2016, 11:31 AM

Physical bundle is out tomorrow so hopefully they 59p it and it gets moved up to the Radio 1 A list too. It's infuriatingly not on the necessary Spotify playlists drama.gif

Posted by: J▲hq Nov 3 2016, 01:08 PM


Posted by: Joe. Nov 3 2016, 01:35 PM

QUOTE(Martyn @ Nov 3 2016, 06:48 AM) *
Radio 1 are starting to pick up on this. There may be life in it yet.


It's been on their playlist for 2 weeks! One week on the B list, it's been getting the same amount of plays daily for a week, and the week before that.

Posted by: ___∆___ Nov 4 2016, 12:06 AM

arrow up.gif 34 on iTunes - Not reducing it to 59p to support the physical release is a big fail. The have released a new remix of this tonight but that is also full price so unlikely to encourage many extra sales.

This deserves to be huge but they have a hard slog to make it Top 40 now seeing as it's currently nearing the bottom of the Top 100 on the official charts.

Even with the bundle I can't see this climbing back up 50+ places to make the Top 40 officially unless Radio start really getting behind it and they have some great TV promo planned nocheer.gif

Posted by: JosephStyles Nov 4 2016, 12:08 AM

Unfortunately it's not 59p drama.gif but the video boost is good so far. They sell well on physicals so I think it can make the top 40 this coming week, even just scraping in. Time will tell I guess.

Posted by: ___∆___ Nov 4 2016, 08:22 PM

#80 today (So an improvement on the first set of mids where it was #88). It has charted 42-75-80 so far, let's see if the bundles give it the 14k needed to go Top 40 next week... However can see this climbing back up to around #55 next week nocheer.gif

Posted by: 🎄cqmerqn🎄 Nov 4 2016, 08:28 PM

If they had just reduced it to 59p this week then they would've had a guaranteed top 40!

Posted by: ___∆___ Nov 4 2016, 10:39 PM

QUOTE(🎄cqmerqn🎄 @ Nov 4 2016, 08:28 PM) *
If they had just reduced it to 59p this week then they would've had a guaranteed top 40!


I think so too! They released a remix version this week at full price too and they usually always release addition versions at 59p.

They have announced 2 HMV single signings which will happen on Monday and Tuesday but they are wrist band events so will probably only generate 250 sales at each signing. With lack of streams and the single starting to fall again on iTunes I really don't think the physical bundle and signings will be enough.

Posted by: JosephStyles Nov 4 2016, 10:43 PM

Honestly it's way too early to call at this stage anyway. We'll see how the video exposure + continued airplay affects it on iTunes during the week much better than on a Friday night.

Posted by: mr_pmt Nov 5 2016, 04:11 AM

I love them and I'm loving this, but I honestly don't see a real recovery from here. I think 2013/2014 was an entirely different landscape that they found advantageous but in the current climate... I'm gonna be honest, much as they're lucky to still get this mainstream support nobody outside those who are truly invested is really supporting are they? (Kills me to say it, but it's true). Therefore, I'm going to say #42 will be its remaining peak but I suppose it may acclaim a better cumulative total than 'Wake Up' did?

Btw, is this from an intended 3rd album or is it testing the water? I'd love a 3rd album, I've really enjoyed what they're offering.

Posted by: JosephStyles Nov 5 2016, 01:30 PM

Third album! Currently expected early next year. They've got arena tour dates around May so should be out before then biggrin.gif

Posted by: JosephStyles Nov 7 2016, 05:48 PM

#13 in the mids today biggrin.gif

Posted by: Jason Nov 7 2016, 06:41 PM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Nov 7 2016, 05:48 PM) *
#13 in the mids today biggrin.gif

Shock of the day! drama.gif

Posted by: Martyn Nov 7 2016, 09:08 PM

See how much it falls before Friday.

Posted by: JosephStyles Nov 7 2016, 09:55 PM

It will of course fall but I Found a Girl went from being like #20 on Monday to #30 on Friday so if this does the same kinda drop, it will still be in the chart's full play zone on Friday, which for me is an amazing result.

Posted by: JosephStyles Nov 10 2016, 11:16 AM

The book was out a few weeks ago! happy.gif

Posted by: J▲hq Nov 10 2016, 11:20 AM

So was that post

basil.gif

Posted by: JosephStyles Nov 10 2016, 11:26 AM

laugh.gif! That's what happens when you read Buzzjack before you've fully woken up drama.gif

Posted by: ___∆___ Nov 10 2016, 06:34 PM

Currently #20 - Was hoping it would stay Top 20 which seems unlikely now however pleased that it's made the Top 40 as I didn't think it had a chance!

Posted by: ___∆___ Nov 26 2016, 02:23 AM

Great rebound up to #26 and continuing its erratic chart run (42-75-80-24-41-26), wish they had kept it at 59p for another week though but streaming seems to be taking off so could keep it Top 40 for a while?

Posted by: JosephStyles Nov 26 2016, 02:28 AM

I should think so!! Amazing result, really goes to show how important Hot Hits UK is if you want a streaming hit! 59p for one more week would've nudged it back into the play zone although it could still manage that next week ohmy.gif

Posted by: (Zach) Nov 29 2016, 02:47 AM

This is the probably the best thing they've ever done.

Posted by: ___∆___ Jan 15 2017, 02:01 AM

Just certified silver cheer.gif Deapite a shaky start this has been a solid seller - greatly helped by streaming! Would have loved it to snag a week Top 20 but seeing as it's now in freefall on iTunes it looks like it won't happen but still majorly impressed by its chart run 42-75-80-24-41-26-27-29-28-28-33-28-31.

Posted by: pippa Jan 16 2017, 03:30 PM

Despite its low peak, its probably one of their biggest hits.

Posted by: Tinasha Jan 16 2017, 03:32 PM

It was basically added to Hot Hits UK way too late, if it had been added to it a couple of weeks earlier it would have had a much better peak.

Yeah, I'd say it's their third biggest hit after Can We Dance and Somebody To You?

Posted by: JosephStyles Jan 16 2017, 03:37 PM

I'd say it's probably bigger than Somebody To You, or not far off! It's certainly having more longevity than all bar Can We Dance, and is likely their biggest streaming hit to date.

Posted by: cqmerqn Jan 16 2017, 03:42 PM

It makes me wonder how the next single will do!

Posted by: Jake Jan 16 2017, 04:36 PM

quite nice trap-lite pop

are they a group/boyband/ some mix? not familiar with them at all

Posted by: JosephStyles Jan 16 2017, 04:43 PM

QUOTE(Jake @ Jan 16 2017, 04:36 PM) *
quite nice trap-lite pop

are they a group/boyband/ some mix? not familiar with them at all


Boyband but they play their own instruments! (normally, not on this track seemingly laugh.gif)

Posted by: ___∆___ Jan 16 2017, 07:47 PM

QUOTE(cqmerqn @ Jan 16 2017, 03:42 PM) *
It makes me wonder how the next single will do!


I thought they handled this release really well - iTunes price reduction, CD single signings etc., - they pushed streaming a bit too late though. Hopefully as much effort will go into the next release.

Posted by: ___∆___ Jan 27 2017, 12:13 AM

Reduced to 59p on iTunes again (It's currently #100), if it picks up some sales it could get a new peak seeing as it's still Top 20 on Spotify cheer.gif

Posted by: awardinary Jul 14 2023, 07:43 PM

Someone decided there was a TikTok market for an official Sped Up version of a six-year old song to release today...


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