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BuzzJack Music Forum _ Pop _ Westlife - Hello My Love • Part 2
Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 Feb 21 2019, 11:27 AM
Continue discussing this song and it's success right here, in this thread. I'll leave a link http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=215773 for whenever you wanna take a look back!
Here's the last 8 posts of the last thread though, so continue as you were! 
anyway, they will work with the producer in the last 1d album. they are not sure what will be the third single but hoping it will be uptempo.
Ed was one who wants to work with Steve Mac because he loves all the songs he worked for Westlife. they have no idea if Shape of You or Hello My Love was the first one composed.
Example:
https://twitter.com/contraryclarey/status/1098157944519168001
Posted by: Whoody4Paramore Feb 21 2019, 11:28 AM
The last one was 8 posts away from 1,000! 
Posted by: ThePensmith Feb 21 2019, 11:39 AM
The other thread reached 50 pages? All in favour of a Westlife artist forum say 'I'
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 21 2019, 11:45 AM
That would be cool so "I"
Posted by: Whoody4Paramore Feb 21 2019, 11:50 AM
I!
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 21 2019, 12:27 PM
Haha, so funny. NOT.
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/other/jack-whitehall-makes-harsh-brexit-joke-about-westlife-at-brits/ar-BBTT4tQ
Posted by: Whoody4Paramore Feb 21 2019, 12:28 PM
It's just a joke, that's his job
I like Westlife and I laughed!
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 21 2019, 12:32 PM
I like Westlife and I laughed!
I heard better jokes than that honestly and its just so easy to make fun of Westlife that it could have been skipped.
Posted by: Charis Feb 21 2019, 01:26 PM
#77
Hello My Love by Westlife 88,779
Total this week: 548,852
Posted by: Lomadz Feb 21 2019, 01:39 PM
In the office at work and this came on the radio. First time I've heard universal praise for Westlife and how good the song is.
Posted by: myxxd Feb 21 2019, 01:48 PM
#20 iTunes
#53 Cape Verde Apple Music
2m to go for Beautiful in White #1st200MforWestlife #notreleasedasasingle
2m to go for If I Let You Go #2nd100MforWestlife #officialmusicvideo
current counts for Hello My Love
spotify yesterday 9,387,873. today 9,620,052
youtube 10,876,426
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 22 2019, 01:52 PM
Mark got engaged, good for him!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/8484808/westlife-mark-feehily-engaged-secret-boyfriend/?utm_campaign=sunmaintwitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1550826215
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 22 2019, 04:10 PM
Another climb in Ireland, now at #9.
#24 in UK.
Posted by: Lomadz Feb 22 2019, 08:23 PM
They are doing incredible, no real promo either.
Posted by: pippa Feb 22 2019, 08:57 PM
Another week with a solid chart performance.
Posted by: Jay ☆ Feb 22 2019, 09:58 PM
Hello My Love has passed 100k sales!
Not Top 100 - 5,137
#13 - 20,675
#29 - 14,874
#20 - 16,407
#22 - 15,260
#19 - 15,898
#24 - 15,496
Total: 103,746
Posted by: ThePensmith Feb 22 2019, 10:43 PM
This single really has continued to defy all expectations - and rightly so too, cause it's still a great single nearly two months on from release.
I'm going to say it quietly, lest this statement comes back and bites me on the bum in nine months' time, but could their new album be the surprise hit of the last quarter?
Based on this performance and their tour in the summer I'm inclined to believe it will. It seems there's more love out there for them than anyone thought or realised!
Posted by: Codester X Feb 22 2019, 10:44 PM
Oh wow, so it’s been selling pretty decently then! Good for them.
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 23 2019, 09:44 AM
Its funny that they had 15000+ copies sold both weeks and its 19-24 of a difference in the charts. Its a great result and with no promo.
Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 Feb 23 2019, 04:05 PM
Is their album really gonna be a "surprise" hit? I feel like most people are expecting it to be one of the biggest/most consistent performers of Q4?
Posted by: Lomadz Feb 23 2019, 04:23 PM
Was going to say the same, was never worried about the album. Would be big even if the single flopped.
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 25 2019, 12:51 PM
Westlife ‘to perform on Dancing with the Stars Final’ for first Irish performance since comeback. That is on March 24th:
http://goss.ie/showbiz/westlife-to-perform-on-dancing-with-the-stars-final-for-first-irish-performance-since-comeback-167385
Posted by: Charis Feb 25 2019, 01:17 PM
http://goss.ie/showbiz/westlife-to-perform-on-dancing-with-the-stars-final-for-first-irish-performance-since-comeback-167385
will it be broadcast in the UK as well?
Posted by: ___∆___ Feb 25 2019, 02:39 PM
Not Top 100 - 5,137
#13 - 20,675
#29 - 14,874
#20 - 16,407
#22 - 15,260
#19 - 15,898
#24 - 15,496
Total: 103,746
Seriously unexpected consistency - coming to snatch that silver award.
Posted by: Charis Feb 25 2019, 03:27 PM
it's still a long way ahead.... Actually i can see it remaining in Top 30 this week, but it depends when the ACR will be triggered...
Another 90.000 for the silver!
What do you think?
Posted by: pippa Feb 25 2019, 03:28 PM
The chart run is much more impressive than we/many expected.
Posted by: ThePensmith Feb 25 2019, 03:55 PM
I should probably rephrase what I said. I meant be a surprise as in have sales even beyond their expectations. Let's be real here even though their last two studio albums went platinum they were both abandoned after one single each. 'Gravity' for example was a drop in the ocean compared to the flood of sales of Take That's 'Progress' album which was out at the same time.
I think with the rejuvenation of their sound and more of a positive reassessment from the public they could potentially be looking at a bigger selling album.
Posted by: pippa Feb 25 2019, 05:16 PM
I think they will have no issues selling the album.
I think the album could reach double platinum for them.
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 25 2019, 05:29 PM
I think its great they are planning to release singles before the album gets released. They used to do that in the early days but I guess Simon was afraid of losing the no. 1s so they stopped which is crazy. And its such a shame 3 of their albums had only lead single and thats it. Like I said, in some way I am glad for the change in the industry just because nothing stops them from having 5 singles per album like so many artists tend to do which is a great promo for the album.
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 25 2019, 07:04 PM
#29 in Mids today.
Posted by: Jay ☆ Feb 25 2019, 09:38 PM
You don't need to worry about ACR until after 15th March
Posted by: Charis Feb 26 2019, 08:00 AM
15 of March is in two weeks, and by then the single will sell 130-140k copies.... So it looks like impossible to become silver this way... what do you think?
Posted by: liamk97 Feb 26 2019, 08:16 AM
Even when a song hits ACR it still has all its sales count towards its total. Streaming also allows for songs to sell at a consistent amount for a long periods so it should have no trouble making its way to Silver.
Posted by: Charis Feb 26 2019, 08:22 AM
i understand, however their sales are definitely in decline, i believe it's their stable streaming which is keeping them high.
Posted by: myxxd Feb 26 2019, 02:26 PM
It's up to 14 15 now on iTunes
Kindly check the overall streams of this single on Spotify daily, I will use only mobile for a long time. It's available only in desktop. I believe they've already overtaken No Place by bsb which was released a week earlier
Mark just followed Celine.
They will be on Denmark's Nine Festival on 3 July 2019. That date is special, it's the 21st anniversary of the band
Posted by: Charis Feb 27 2019, 11:24 PM
Westlife at #30 this week. They are on course to sell another 14.000+ this week...
Posted by: Charis Feb 28 2019, 08:12 AM
Spotify # 70 Hello My Love by Westlife 87,900 Going strong and stable!
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 28 2019, 09:50 AM
Thats great! I honestly never expected the single to have such a great result on Spotify. And its all done without any promo, they really should feel happy and proud of this.
Posted by: Charis Feb 28 2019, 10:13 AM
It had a lot of push from the media since it's a comeback single, and also got enough support from spotify playlists, if we are to tell the truth. That said i hope all the next westlife singles will have similar support... Better and stronger songs are coming...
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 28 2019, 10:19 AM
Yes, it will be interesting to see how the ballad will be received as a single. I would normally say ballads don't work anymore in the charts but Ed's Perfect sure proved that it can work.
Posted by: Charis Feb 28 2019, 10:32 AM
It doesn't necessarily work this way.. If Ed and Westlife released the same song Ed's release would sell 10 times more. And I doubt Perfect would reach the Top 10 if Westlife had released it instead...
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 28 2019, 10:38 AM
This is true of course and that can be said by any song of popular singers these days, whether its from Ed or Ariana Grande. But at the same time, it can't be denied Perfect was a gigantic hit for Ed, even bigger than Castle on The Hill and Shape of You, it probably became THE wedding song for many people.
Posted by: Cqmerqn Feb 28 2019, 11:07 AM
They have done promo tho? It’s also high on HHUK.
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 28 2019, 11:16 AM
They have done tv promo in the first 2 weeks - they had 2 live performances on Graham Norton show and NTV Awards. Not much else as far as I know, only a few radio interviews but that was also during the first 2 weeks.
Posted by: Cqmerqn Feb 28 2019, 11:30 AM
So therefore they have had plenty of promo
Posted by: zeze88 Feb 28 2019, 11:57 AM
How is that plenty? Only 2 TV performances and these radio interviews were not that big and there they actually promoted their tour more, not the single. Radio 1 never plays them, thankfully they have the support from Radio 2.
Besides, I mean that the single is steady despite having a promo more than a month ago - Westlife's singles usually drop out of the chart rather quickly so this is a nice change.
Posted by: Bjork Feb 28 2019, 12:39 PM
it's 2019, the charts are dictated by Spotify not iTunes, that's why they are holding on, Spotify doesn't depend on promo but on playlists
their label has paid to have them high on HH, and that's why it's holding up
pure and simple
Posted by: Charis Mar 1 2019, 10:03 AM
up to # 65 again in spotify! Hello My Love by Westlife 90,269
Posted by: Charis Mar 1 2019, 10:04 AM
Jay , do you have the summary of spotify streams?
Posted by: M477h3w Mar 1 2019, 11:06 AM
Wahoo! That’s taking them back to their original peak
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 1 2019, 02:43 PM
New Kids on The Block have a new song Boys In The Band, like an homage to boyband. They even mentioned Westlife
https://youtu.be/EvOPoQrtFGI
Anyway, Westlife are at #11 in Ireland and #32 in UK this week.
Posted by: Charis Mar 1 2019, 08:14 PM
Another ~14.000 units sold this week, The total is above 117,000 now Keep streaming!
Posted by: ThePensmith Mar 1 2019, 08:19 PM
It will be interesting to see how the second single gets on, especially if it is truer to a perception of a Westlife single. Which reminds me...had Spotify on one of my Daily Mixes today, which I almost never do. I begrudged it as a Westlife hating 10 year old as I was back in 1999, but 'Flying Without Wings' is actually quite a magnificent single, isn't it? It's not hard to draw parallels between that and say Ed Sheeran's own 'Perfect' - Steve Mac working on both might have something to do with it. Especially when Mark goes for that warbly high bit at the end.
Posted by: Whoody4Paramore Mar 1 2019, 08:20 PM
A ballad is the #1 single in the UK right now!
Posted by: myxxd Mar 2 2019, 12:54 AM
https://youtu.be/EvOPoQrtFGI
Anyway, Westlife are at #11 in Ireland and #32 in UK this week.
Numbers 11 and 32 were Lighthouses peak positions on its first week
Posted by: myxxd Mar 2 2019, 01:21 AM
Mark just said second single will be out by the end of March, third single sometime in August. Album on September 14.
For me, if album will be released on October or November we might get the fourth single the week before the album release and if we're very lucky we will get promotional singles or fifth or even sixth at the same day week of the album release.
I believe the reason why we don't get enough TV promos compared to before is because they will bring it on the album release week, the most important week. They don't want the public to get tired of them by the end of the year on that most important week.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 2 2019, 01:26 AM
I am hoping NKOTB will get more attention than the OK jobros sucker right now but I guess they don't have Republic Universal on their backs.
Westlife and Jonas were the last two standing groups in the MTV battle of the boybands back in 2012. 70 plus percent versus more or less 30 percent were the results.
Posted by: Charis Mar 2 2019, 09:13 AM
For me, if album will be released on October or November we might get the fourth single the week before the album release and if we're very lucky we will get promotional singles or fifth or even sixth at the same day week of the album release.
I believe the reason why we don't get enough TV promos compared to before is because they will bring it on the album release week, the most important week. They don't want the public to get tired of them by the end of the year on that most important week.
bring it on! Although still end of March is too soon for me, Hello My Love is still in the charts...
Source for this?
Posted by: myxxd Mar 2 2019, 09:28 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Maria__S__/status/1101569578050703365
And I was thinking after the album release maybe another single will be released maybe for Christmas, song from the album or a new track or with the duet like Against All Odds in the 2000. So many possibilities. we are so blessed.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 2 2019, 09:34 AM
Source for this?
Nothing wrong with it. Everything now is faster compared to 10 yr ago. I remember when they uploaded the MV of What About now in 09, Kian was happy in an interview when the bid reached 1 million views a month later. 10 yes later they have hello my Love with 10 million views with only a month later. I think what that aim right now is to break in the streaming and to have the numbers going. They keep on uploading their old tracks on YouTube almost everyday and it's being backed by the record label. Louis just said he knows there will be craving for their massive back catalogue
Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 Mar 2 2019, 10:30 AM
The more singles before the album, the better in this day and age. Post album singles don't work as well as pre album singles for a band like Westlife.
And it's so refreshing to see Westlife doing this after many artists release just 1 or 2 (at a push) singles. It's definitely a more traditional way of doing things and if those dates are to be believed, then that's perfect strategic timing.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 2 2019, 12:56 PM
I agree post album singles doesn't work anymore but they might try just like the old days.
These kinds of answers to their interviews that has been released just now is to reassure their fans especially the old ones that they are back. Some of their old fans are worried they might be dropped because of the number 13 peak in the UK but to me they are doing really well based on their streaming numbers for an old act and for an act that doesn't have the American audience.
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 2 2019, 01:14 PM
These kinds of answers to their interviews that has been released just now is to reassure their fans especially the old ones that they are back. Some of their old fans are worried they might be dropped because of the number 13 peak in the UK but to me they are doing really well based on their streaming numbers for an old act and for an act that doesn't have the American audience.
Worrying about them being dropped is silly, especially since they sold out their tour. I think releasing more singles is a great way to keep promoting the album, it doesn’t matter how the actual singles are doing. I don’t think 14th September is a correct date though because that falls on Saturday. But September/October release would be good.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 2 2019, 01:16 PM
This second single might have been part of a double lead single but never been allowed because it will divide their views. This fast single release isn't new for the band either, I remember the little gap between the release of Against All Odds and My Love and What Makes a Man and You Raise Me Up and When You Tell Me. Also this time they are more in control. They said in an interview the label ask them what do they want.
Posted by: Charis Mar 2 2019, 05:29 PM
They had a huge support since their comeback there is no doubt about it. And i don't consider it a flop at all. As a matter of fact with Hello My Love run and sales it should have charted higher, but it just didn't happen. Now it's up to them to maintain those levels high and gain new fans.
Posted by: Charis Mar 2 2019, 05:43 PM
#71 Hello My Love by Westlife 96,078
Posted by: myxxd Mar 2 2019, 06:00 PM
If I were Westlife, they should release the album after a fourth single. Based on their history, I Have a Dream and Uptown Girl (technically) were the most successful singles from Westlife and Coast to Coast eras in UK and both were fourth releases. they might also put a cover on the album for the sales but they will put it as a bonus track or on the last part or no covers at all and they will break the tradition. maybe it will be a 12-track album with bonuses in Japan and Germany. They should not repeat what they did on their 1999 debut where they only released three singles before the album and premiere only at #2 and get beaten by Steps by a thousand copies
The 2nd single will be interesting because it will be their first since 2007 to have a second, follow-up single for an album and first since 2003 to have a second single before an album release. If this will be released by the end of March so the song that they performed on Mrs. Browns was the new single which was also said to be out this month?
Posted by: myxxd Mar 2 2019, 06:18 PM
I don't think so too. Also the March release, their model might be Take That's Patience (Nov) and Shine (Feb). Might still be April based on the gap we saw but they will skip the April 12 special date that they always tend to do. They don't want double celebrations based on my observations following them over the years. Also They want to confuse and don't give everyone the exact dates easily, that's their style now. Well Hello my love didn't reach #1 overall because like the others said they sabotaged themselves lol after the graham performance they became the most downloaded single of the day but it became less and less because they literally have no TV promo after that compared to the old days. I think it's because they don't want the watchers to get tired of them and saving it to their album release week. Also they didn't push it too hard because if it became number one at least on Ireland, fans will be more relaxed on their next singles by just downloading and not pushing themselves into streaming and in effect it will cut the band's dreams to break into streaming, the future of music.
They already know what the next single will be but not the third single maybe they will observe what kind of sound will be more successful for them on the charts. Kian said he is hoping it will be an uptempo one.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 2 2019, 06:24 PM
#19 Sales, Downloads
#12 Ireland, Scotland
#55 audio streams
#10 physical from #4 last week
Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 Mar 2 2019, 06:35 PM
Yeah HML is not a flop. No one can say that it is. If they do, they're just trolling.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 3 2019, 11:43 AM
New spotify peak #56 101k
Posted by: Wall Mar 3 2019, 11:46 AM
HML has exceeded my expectations by an incredible amount and just shows with the correct promotion / campaign that a returning act could have success still. I truly hope it continues picking up on Spotify but its chart run has been v v impressive.
Posted by: WhoOdyssey Mar 3 2019, 11:50 AM
Have Westlife got any TV promo coming up, like Mrs Brown's?
Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 Mar 3 2019, 11:53 AM
When is Mrs Brown's on? They recorded a performance or something for that I believe.
Posted by: WhoOdyssey Mar 3 2019, 11:56 AM
All Round to Mrs Brown's begins on Saturday 16th March, I believe.
Posted by: Charis Mar 3 2019, 04:56 PM
That's really amazing!! can we top last week's sales and avoid ACR?
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 3 2019, 09:19 PM
I was just thinking about the Brits and how it would be nice if they get a nomination next year after the album gets released - or maybe a EMA nomination. I don't expect them to win considering they only won 2 Brits andd 1 EMA in the early days but who knows.
A performance would be nice as well, that Uptown Girl performance at the Brits back in 2001 was cool.
Posted by: Charis Mar 4 2019, 12:25 PM
Spotify #63
Hello My Love by Westlife 83,300
Posted by: Lomadz Mar 4 2019, 01:21 PM
Can't find that Brits performance on YouTube anymore
Posted by: Wall Mar 4 2019, 01:27 PM
Uploaded to Youtube channel
Posted by: Charis Mar 4 2019, 01:46 PM
any chance to avoid acr? btw when on acr do the sales also go to lower rating the same way or they count normal despite being charted lower? The single is on 120.000 sales now, it needs another 80.000 to reach silver certification.
Posted by: Mack. Mar 4 2019, 01:55 PM
Never in a month of Tuesdays did I see Westlife having a Top20 hit which spent 7 weeks in the Top40.
Posted by: Charis Mar 4 2019, 02:00 PM
what does this mean ' Never in a month of Tuesdays ' ?
Posted by: Charis Mar 4 2019, 02:47 PM
#31 in midweek today! another week in top 40 is certain.
Posted by: Charis Mar 5 2019, 08:23 AM
Hello My Love on freefall in itunes 
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 5 2019, 09:21 AM
Its not a big deal considering streaming is more important these days and its expected considering the single got released 8 weeks ago.
Posted by: Wall Mar 5 2019, 10:50 AM
I wouldn't be too surprised to see this avoiding ACR, it's still picking up in streaming.....
Posted by: Charis Mar 5 2019, 12:03 PM
seems tough now... ACR is activated even if u decline by 1 sale for 3 consecutive weeks right?
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 6 2019, 06:49 AM
IN DEMAND Westlife sparked bidding war between Sky and Netflix for a tell-all documentary film about their reunion
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/8569510/westlife-documentary-reunion-sky-netflix/
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 8 2019, 03:15 PM
#15 in Ireland
Posted by: Charis Mar 8 2019, 05:20 PM
and #35 in the UK fell from #32.. not that terrible i believe.
Posted by: Charis Mar 8 2019, 05:34 PM
Hello My Love reached 130.000 sales in the UK. Anyone knows if ACR is kicking in in one week?
Jay if you have exact sales week-on-week can you please share them?
Posted by: Charis Mar 9 2019, 10:14 PM
only recently I noticed that Flying without wings became platinum! I thought the single had sold less than 400k so it was kind of a surprise for me... Unless there is something i hadn't considered. How can we know the updated amount of singles Westlife sold in the UK? i thought they were close to 7m but apparently the number became higher than that. Can smeone help?
Posted by: Envoirment Mar 10 2019, 01:32 AM
Only just got round to listening to this - it's quite good! Suprised, but happy with how well it's done. It'll likely go silver by the end of the year.
Posted by: Jay ☆ Mar 10 2019, 05:13 AM
12,718 to be #35 this week, total sales = 130,679
Posted by: Steve201 Mar 10 2019, 10:26 AM
Is there a second single planned to build on this? Or are they gonna wait until Sept/Oct and Q4 proposed album release?
Posted by: WhoOdyssey Mar 10 2019, 10:27 AM
I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a second single before then.
Posted by: Steve201 Mar 10 2019, 10:39 AM
You can also bet their Q4 single will be a winter ballad!
Posted by: ThePensmith Mar 10 2019, 02:19 PM
I heard tell that we're meant to be getting a second single either end of this month or beginning of April...?
It seems a shame really that ITV don't do Record of the Year anymore. It'd be a prime candidate to take it for them again (only this time I'd actually be quite welcoming of it)
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 10 2019, 03:34 PM
It was said before the 2nd single will be released by the end of March and 3rd in August but that is not 100% confirmed.
Posted by: M477h3w Mar 11 2019, 02:00 PM
This is amazing
Posted by: Mack. Mar 11 2019, 02:56 PM
It means that it is very unlikely to happen. Their Q4 single if it did happen would probably be something wintry a la 'I Have A Dream'.
Posted by: Charis Mar 11 2019, 07:30 PM
#36 in the midweek. Tight fight for another Top 40 week... Probably last week before ACR..
Posted by: pippa Mar 11 2019, 09:21 PM
That remains impressive and if it falls it wont be far outside the Top 40.
Once the initial ACR kicks in and passes, they may gain some extra chart weeks in the lower end of the chart after that.
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 12 2019, 07:34 AM
https://twitter.com/MFeehilyMusic/status/1105229621505806337
Posted by: Charis Mar 12 2019, 07:59 AM
photoshoot for what?
Can someone help me find the new total sales of westlife singles and Gravity album since all was changed with the introduction of streams?
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 12 2019, 12:13 PM
Nicky left the radio show today:
http://goss.ie/featured/nicky-byrne-officially-announces-that-he-is-gone-from-2fm-today-169182
That is expected but interestingly enough, Jennie is also leaving. It was reported before she would continue on The Nicky Byrne Show but I guess the show is dead.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 15 2019, 01:32 PM
Spotify Hot Hits uk updated HML #6
Posted by: Charis Mar 15 2019, 01:42 PM
got higher? what was it before?
maybe trying to avoid acr?
Posted by: myxxd Mar 15 2019, 01:45 PM
Just now
Posted by: danG Mar 15 2019, 02:28 PM
It's too late for them to avoid ACR now, the song is set to decline this week which will mean it will be on ACR next week. The high HH placing should cushion their fall somewhat though.
Posted by: Charis Mar 15 2019, 02:47 PM
are u sure the acr is this week? i believe this is the 9th week in the chart. is it enabled on the begining of 10th week, or after it charted for 10 weeks?
Posted by: myxxd Mar 15 2019, 06:05 PM
38 UK
65 Audio Streams
39 Ireland
32 Scotland
51 Sales
49 Downloads
Out in Physical
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 15 2019, 08:11 PM
They sold around 11 000 copies which is great,
Posted by: Charis Mar 15 2019, 11:03 PM
Total sales (units) of Hello My Love are at 142.000 in the UK now.
Posted by: Charis Mar 17 2019, 08:06 PM
new peak in spotify!!! #55 today!
Posted by: WhoOdyssey Mar 17 2019, 08:09 PM
Shame it's on ACR now, but it bodes well for the second single.
Posted by: Charis Mar 17 2019, 08:26 PM
our objective is to reach the silver certificate. It needs another 60.000 units.. what do you think? I can expect to reach 150.000 this week, so another 50.000 when on acr.
The ACR affects the sale units themselves right?
PS: what are the ways to get back to normal chart ratio?
Posted by: JosephAvery Mar 17 2019, 08:29 PM
The ACR affects the sale units themselves right?
PS: what are the ways to get back to normal chart ratio?
This has been explained already - ACR affects the weekly charts only, not total sales, so it will continue to ramp up sales towards its total just as it did before.
A song can go back to SCR with a 50% (or more) increase in streams. This is very unlikely without a major boost, though.
Posted by: Charis Mar 18 2019, 08:37 AM
A song can go back to SCR with a 50% (or more) increase in streams. This is very unlikely without a major boost, though.
Oh Ok. Sorry i wasn't aware. That means it's only a matter of time till it reaches the Silver certification, since it looks stable in spotify Top 100, also for the next couple of weeks, this will add around 10.000 units every week, and even when it goes out of Top 200, it will still add a few thousands every week till it become silver.
Posted by: Mack. Mar 18 2019, 04:03 PM
How do we see the second single from them doing?
Posted by: Jay ☆ Mar 18 2019, 04:13 PM
There's only a Top 100 chart! (Since July 2017)
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 18 2019, 04:35 PM
It hasn’t been released yet.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 18 2019, 06:38 PM
#81 on mids
Strong rumor they will announce more tour, Asian dates on the 21 like
Jakarta BSD ICE August 7. Tickets will be opened on the 28th
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 19 2019, 07:28 AM
Its confirmed they will perform on the Dancing With the Stars final on the 24th.
https://twitter.com/Hema_ByrnesArmy/status/1107839999041515523
I wonder if they will perform HML or a new song. I presume HML but it would be a great idea to actually perform a new single if they really are planning to release it very soon.
Posted by: Charis Mar 19 2019, 08:51 AM
talking about spotify anyway
Posted by: myxxd Mar 19 2019, 09:06 AM
https://twitter.com/Hema_ByrnesArmy/status/1107839999041515523
I wonder if they will perform HML or a new song. I presume HML but it would be a great idea to actually perform a new single if they really are planning to release it very soon.
One Facebook fansite claims the lads will perform the new single on Dwts Ireland Finale on Sunday and it will be called "Better Man". They claim they do not post fake news. Let's see
Posted by: Charis Mar 19 2019, 12:12 PM
Hehe, you must have seen my questions over this site, for a source etc but i got nothing... to me it is highly doubted and i dont mean it might be untrue.. just they didnt show any proofe.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 19 2019, 12:19 PM
Ikr
Posted by: myxxd Mar 21 2019, 04:23 AM
Strong rumor they will announce more tour, Asian dates on the 21 like
Jakarta BSD ICE August 7. Tickets will be opened on the 28th
Confirmed Indonesian date with Macau, Thailand, Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia and Singapore dates from July 26 to August
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 21 2019, 10:58 AM
Westlife will be on The Jonathan Ross Show next Saturday:
https://twitter.com/MFeehilyMusic/status/1108652281074012160
Posted by: Wall Mar 21 2019, 11:21 AM
Kings of promo.
New single next Friday then?
Posted by: myxxd Mar 21 2019, 11:34 AM
Hope so
Posted by: Charis Mar 21 2019, 11:59 AM
But Dancing with the stars is this week.... they should bring it out this week maybe...
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 22 2019, 03:16 PM
They will perform Hello My Love:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BvUCkTMnXBr/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet
Posted by: myxxd Mar 22 2019, 06:57 PM
#86
#13 Physical re
#49 Scotland
#37 Ireland
#59 Sales
#60 Downloads
#64 Audio Streams
Posted by: Charis Mar 22 2019, 09:00 PM
Thanks.
Hello My Love sales must have reached 151-152k now in the UK alone, so I believe we are now cowntdowning to silver certification...
Jay please advice.
Posted by: M477h3w Mar 23 2019, 03:34 AM
So happy with how well this has done for the lads
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 23 2019, 04:28 AM
Yet my friend thinks this is not good enough. I try to explain bit he just doesn’t want to see my way
Posted by: Navid Mar 23 2019, 04:58 PM
Tracking this thread from first post up to now and as I had long discussion with my dear friend and one of the user here (Zeze) I want to say my opinion about Hello My Love and the
right approach towards releasing next singles. I will transcribe my chats with Zeze right here and sorry for the length of my post and want to know your feedback:
"It is very good that they have a good chart run but it is in wrong end of top 40 for acts that come back after 8 years. Three weeks in top 10, 5 weeks in top 20 and two weeks or
more in top 30 would have been very good but peaking at no.13 and celebrating being in between no.19 to 35 is not success for me. I told you I didn't like the song after first listen
because I set the bar so high after 8 years. Then I told you the song has grown on me but after 4 days I could not stand the song again
and you can't believe but after first week of release I listened to whole song just 2 or 3 times untill today. I certainly not kidding you because for me the song lacks
DEPTH. You told me it is catchy, yes, it is but I can name you more catchier songs than this one from their first album up to last. Change Your Mind, wasn't that catchy? I think it was
way better than Hello My Love so what the hell to recruit Ed and Steve? They're two great jewels in this market and can produce instant hit. For me Hello my Love is by no mean a
hit, it is just mediocre, that's my humble opinion.
Their labels' strategy was wrong and sucked. What the hell in rushing releasing the song? It cost them dearly and 5.1k copies from overjoyed Westlife's fans counted towards first
week which was mere 15 hours. So is it great to be no.2 in Scotland or no.101 in UK? Those copies would make them no.8 if the song released on Friday. What's the point to be no.1
in itunes chart in 15 countries and then falling back to earth three days later? Is it achievement or what? They were no.1 in UK untill Saturday night (streaming included). So what
the hell was releasing the song on Thursday? I told you before and will tell you forever, If they were 1D or Little Mix or whatever act with three or four UK no.1 it was okay just to
show up and have top 20 hit but when you have 14 UK no.1 and there are two legends of this game in Elvis and The Beatles above you, every single is important. Coupled it with
comeback single after eight years in hiatus and there would be insane to not arranging two or three top, top performance from Friday onward in huge shows in itv or BBC. Was it that
tough? GN was very good cuz there are so many people watching this show but only one promotion? So what the hell to releasing single? Just Releasing single for the sake of it is
not STATE OF THE ART. Then came National TV awards, that was more than good but 3 weeks after releasing single? It just helped the song (as I told you) to remain in top 40 more
weeks and ACR implemented three or four weeks later as we are in this phase this week. I mean either don't release a single or do it properly. It was golden, golden opportunity
wasted and I'm fearing for their next single. If they perform it on Sunday and then instantly release it on Monday we lose three golden days. Please note that being ballad is not
disadvantage and you can see how UK no.1 single keep selling because it is beautiful. All of Me by John Legend kept ruling because it connected to people's heart and soul as Perfect
by Ed did. Why Beautiful In White and I'll See You Again have so many views in Youtube without people knowing who the artist is? Because it connects. The only thing that record
label done and it was good was releasing two other version of the song and it helped stream-wise.
When you're coming back after 8 years and you have two top, top producers and writers you should be above your normal level and not even releasing song that has no quality. I told
you million times that the benchmark here is Backstreet Boys. After GH album and Drowning single which was brilliant (but still pure pop) and all the problems with A.J addiction one
day (without knowing anything about their comeback) I listened to one US music radio station and it hit me hard. I thought to myself I listened to this act before but still couldn't
remember (During A.J, first verse), it was so radical, sooooooooooo radical change in this song and after Nick said Incomplete I understood they are BSB and I was a massive fan.
This is a comeback single, this is a comeback album with songs like I Still and I Just Want You To Know (do me a favor my dear Zeljka, if you have time, today or any given day, listen
to Never Gone album and after 14 years you can still think it is modern and something not done by any pop band), because they understood pure pop don't working anymore. Simon
understood it late but still convinced our lads to recording What About Now and if it wasn't for Cheryl's Fight for This Love (because she was national treasure back then cuz her
famous husband, footballer, cheated on her) that would be easily no.1 and everyone compare Hello My Love chart run to WAN. Do you know the reason? Because of that DEPTH I told
you earlier. Even today I can listen to What About Know 1000 times a day and still wanting more, this is depth, this is what you're see in Lana's work (remember Adele once told
how I feel like I want to fly every time I hear Salvatore) and there are many songs in Lana catalog with that depth. You should have vision, see something that others
can't see. You saw it in the work of BSB's brilliant comeback album, Take That's brilliant comeback single, Patience and The Flood, and Westlife's What About Now. They were called
cover band, didn't they? But the reaction from people was insane because WAN was brilliant and connected to people because it was so unorthodox by Westlife's standard. That's my
point. Being catchy doesn't make song special and Westlife have way better and catchier tunes in their repertoire."
Posted by: myxxd Mar 24 2019, 12:37 AM
Kian said the single did very well and that came from a pretty straight forward person. It was number one in the lrgest streaming media in China for weeks.
Change Your Mind is pure pop and reminds us of Picture of You Boyzone
They know HML is not their best track also for me as well. It's like a warm-up. Shane even said the second single is better. What I know now is this is just the start and they will bring their all in the last quarter of the year the album release week.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 24 2019, 02:43 AM
Hello My Love I believe is mostly aimed for the non-fans and young streamers. It is also their first time to release an edm single. Knowing them most likely they won't release the best track as their first single
Posted by: Navid Mar 24 2019, 10:13 AM
By naming "Change Your Mind" I meant catchy dear myxxd. It's not edm as your rightly mentioned.
Posted by: Cqmerqn Mar 24 2019, 10:17 AM
Hello My Love is NOT an EDM song
Posted by: WhoOdyssey Mar 24 2019, 10:24 AM
Posted by: Charis Mar 24 2019, 10:29 AM
right approach towards releasing next singles. I will transcribe my chats with Zeze right here and sorry for the length of my post and want to know your feedback:
"It is very good that they have a good chart run but it is in wrong end of top 40 for acts that come back after 8 years. Three weeks in top 10, 5 weeks in top 20 and two weeks or
more in top 30 would have been very good but peaking at no.13 and celebrating being in between no.19 to 35 is not success for me. I told you I didn't like the song after first listen
because I set the bar so high after 8 years. Then I told you the song has grown on me but after 4 days I could not stand the song again
and you can't believe but after first week of release I listened to whole song just 2 or 3 times untill today. I certainly not kidding you because for me the song lacks
DEPTH. You told me it is catchy, yes, it is but I can name you more catchier songs than this one from their first album up to last. Change Your Mind, wasn't that catchy? I think it was
way better than Hello My Love so what the hell to recruit Ed and Steve? They're two great jewels in this market and can produce instant hit. For me Hello my Love is by no mean a
hit, it is just mediocre, that's my humble opinion.
Their labels' strategy was wrong and sucked. What the hell in rushing releasing the song? It cost them dearly and 5.1k copies from overjoyed Westlife's fans counted towards first
week which was mere 15 hours. So is it great to be no.2 in Scotland or no.101 in UK? Those copies would make them no.8 if the song released on Friday. What's the point to be no.1
in itunes chart in 15 countries and then falling back to earth three days later? Is it achievement or what? They were no.1 in UK untill Saturday night (streaming included). So what
the hell was releasing the song on Thursday? I told you before and will tell you forever, If they were 1D or Little Mix or whatever act with three or four UK no.1 it was okay just to
show up and have top 20 hit but when you have 14 UK no.1 and there are two legends of this game in Elvis and The Beatles above you, every single is important. Coupled it with
comeback single after eight years in hiatus and there would be insane to not arranging two or three top, top performance from Friday onward in huge shows in itv or BBC. Was it that
tough? GN was very good cuz there are so many people watching this show but only one promotion? So what the hell to releasing single? Just Releasing single for the sake of it is
not STATE OF THE ART. Then came National TV awards, that was more than good but 3 weeks after releasing single? It just helped the song (as I told you) to remain in top 40 more
weeks and ACR implemented three or four weeks later as we are in this phase this week. I mean either don't release a single or do it properly. It was golden, golden opportunity
wasted and I'm fearing for their next single. If they perform it on Sunday and then instantly release it on Monday we lose three golden days. Please note that being ballad is not
disadvantage and you can see how UK no.1 single keep selling because it is beautiful. All of Me by John Legend kept ruling because it connected to people's heart and soul as Perfect
by Ed did. Why Beautiful In White and I'll See You Again have so many views in Youtube without people knowing who the artist is? Because it connects. The only thing that record
label done and it was good was releasing two other version of the song and it helped stream-wise.
When you're coming back after 8 years and you have two top, top producers and writers you should be above your normal level and not even releasing song that has no quality. I told
you million times that the benchmark here is Backstreet Boys. After GH album and Drowning single which was brilliant (but still pure pop) and all the problems with A.J addiction one
day (without knowing anything about their comeback) I listened to one US music radio station and it hit me hard. I thought to myself I listened to this act before but still couldn't
remember (During A.J, first verse), it was so radical, sooooooooooo radical change in this song and after Nick said Incomplete I understood they are BSB and I was a massive fan.
This is a comeback single, this is a comeback album with songs like I Still and I Just Want You To Know (do me a favor my dear Zeljka, if you have time, today or any given day, listen
to Never Gone album and after 14 years you can still think it is modern and something not done by any pop band), because they understood pure pop don't working anymore. Simon
understood it late but still convinced our lads to recording What About Now and if it wasn't for Cheryl's Fight for This Love (because she was national treasure back then cuz her
famous husband, footballer, cheated on her) that would be easily no.1 and everyone compare Hello My Love chart run to WAN. Do you know the reason? Because of that DEPTH I told
you earlier. Even today I can listen to What About Know 1000 times a day and still wanting more, this is depth, this is what you're see in Lana's work (remember Adele once told
how I feel like I want to fly every time I hear Salvatore) and there are many songs in Lana catalog with that depth. You should have vision, see something that others
can't see. You saw it in the work of BSB's brilliant comeback album, Take That's brilliant comeback single, Patience and The Flood, and Westlife's What About Now. They were called
cover band, didn't they? But the reaction from people was insane because WAN was brilliant and connected to people because it was so unorthodox by Westlife's standard. That's my
point. Being catchy doesn't make song special and Westlife have way better and catchier tunes in their repertoire."
I tend to agree with you. Yes the song is not the best possible and it cant be compared with swear it again or FWW, my love what about now and you raise me up... How ever for a boyband which was on the top 18-20 years ago this cant be considered as a disaster... you cant really see that old boybands in the charts. 20 years is a long time its a whole generation... a teenager 20
Posted by: Charis Mar 24 2019, 10:30 AM
I tend to agree with you. Yes the song is not the best possible and it cant be compared with swear it again or FWW, my love what about now and you raise me up... How ever for a boyband which was on the top 18-20 years ago this cant be considered as a disaster... you cant really see that old boybands in the charts. 20 years is a long time its a whole generation... a teenager 20 years ago has teenage children, and a middle-aged person is now a retired ... you can't imagine ariana grande and ava max topping the uk charts in 20 years time can you?
Posted by: Navid Mar 24 2019, 10:38 AM
Of course it is not. You should searching for Calvin Harris and David Guetta in this case. It's not Pet Shop Boys either. Myxxd Said it is and edm track and I think HML has some elements
of electronic music and you can't deny it. It's a very tiny margin between pop songs and some electronic stuff nowadays. You should create another genre for it as vague as "Britpop"
which was stupid genre created during battles between Oasis and Blur. You know better than me that Oasis were Rock band and you can't attach pop to something as edgy as
Champagne Supernova or Some Might Say among others. It was a war between different political discourses back then ended up in creating Britpop genre.
Posted by: WhoOdyssey Mar 24 2019, 10:55 AM
Electronic ≠ EDM
Posted by: Navid Mar 24 2019, 10:56 AM
But BSB sold 236k of their new album and went straight to no.1 in billboard chart dear Charis. Also they were nominated at the Grammy for their first single off their new album which is
amazing achievement for a pop band 26 years into this game. Their 2 previous albums were disaster in terms of selling and chart run but the strategy which implemented by a lot of US
acts guarantee them top spot. It's called "Ticket Bundle" and works by including a free copy of any act latest album with the purchase of either a single ticket or pair to that specific
act's upcoming tour. Because of that I'm sure Westlife's first week sales of their new album will be HUGE and that Netflix/HBO documentary along with other promotions a will be
catalyst, no doubt about that and don't get me wrong. My only complain and upset here is the chance for them to grabbing UK no.1 single with their comeback single which was
wasted by lack of promotion and so forth.
Posted by: Cqmerqn Mar 24 2019, 10:57 AM
It’s a standard pop song
Posted by: Navid Mar 24 2019, 11:00 AM
It is not but has some similarities technically. Of course EDM is more than electronic music and it is kinda house music which was the heart and soul of 80's music. If you want to know how hard it is to put
one song in specific genre you should dig-deep into grammys. The process of putting songs in a specific genre nowadays is very hard, believe me. I have a friend in this industry keep telling me that each
year there are some hard battles between academy members to putting some songs in genres. One said it is pop, another said it is electronic and the other one said it is rock. So it is war of words each year
and you can't say who will win the battle and only secret committee members have the authorities beyond any regulation to say the last word. So in biggest showcase in music industry and between so
many experts you can't find one voice and magine we're not experts and keep saying EDM, not EDM. Of course it is not EDM but you would laughing out so loud if I say which tracks selected in which
genres in last two editions of grammy. It's so difficult because of using many instruments. So hands down and long live WESTLIFE!!!
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 24 2019, 12:58 PM
I’m actually surprised BSB got the Grammy nomination as that song is not that great in my opinion, there are better ones on the album but even an album as a whole is just decent, but I was never a huge BSB fan to begin with so maybe I’m not the best judge.
I’m looking forward to the performance, lets see if it will effect the charts.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 24 2019, 01:32 PM
Yup hello my love is electronic and standard pop single in 2019 which is a first for them and they waited years to release this kind of song. I remember Calvin Harris tweeted in 2009 that he heard a new Westlife song and described it as a kind of departure for them. I guess Simon rejected it with the songs written or produced for them by the likes of jc chasez, darren hayes and ben adams. Only Shadows made it by AJ McLean
The likes of c chasex
Posted by: Cqmerqn Mar 24 2019, 01:43 PM
Hello My Love electronic music?!!!
Posted by: Bjork Mar 24 2019, 02:05 PM
stop please, I spilled all my coffee laughing at the thought of Hello my love being Electronic Music, you guys really need a Reality check, the song is pure pop Ed Sheeran drivel, nothing more nothing else
but in another posts you were referring to Westlife as Kings, so a Reality check is kinda necessary I think :S
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 24 2019, 02:08 PM
It has some elements, its not that hilarious. Entire Will Young album Echoes was like that so I don’t know why this is so funny. Its still a pop dong of course but it is slightly more current compared to Westlife standards.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 24 2019, 02:46 PM
Yes you can laugh all you want but they are here to stay.
Posted by: myxxd Mar 24 2019, 02:48 PM
Have you guys ever imagined Westlife will have one of the most viewed popular threads here on buzzjack in 2019
Posted by: Cqmerqn Mar 24 2019, 02:50 PM
Purely because of 3 Westlife stans viewing and replying in this thread approximately 279 times a day
Posted by: WhoOdyssey Mar 24 2019, 02:57 PM
Posted by: Navid Mar 24 2019, 03:26 PM
C'mon Bjork. It is not electronic but we're not some teenage fans waiting for a casual comment. HML is by no means an electronic music but has some elements of it. Is it that hard?
There are many instruments in any studio and many producers who bring their A-games plan. It's not 80's anymore. There are up to eight people working on one track for normal
artists and you can see their names by quick search. EVERY ONE OF THEM BRING HIS/HER KINDA MUSIC TO STUDIO. During the process of recording an album or even one track
there are so many different instruments which were non-existence 30 years ago. Many of them have overlapping effects and you can hear it on the outcome of the song. So it is big
war of words in grammy to put one album in Americana or country, one track in pop or rock and the lack of unity in academy members is insane and many of them are indecisive of
the correction of their vote in this specific matter, same here with HML. It is not electronic but not pure pop. Let's put it this way: it's cross-genre track with 80-85% of pop and
20-15% of light electronic music. It is not House, it is not pure electronic but it is not pure pop either and like Zeze I'm looking forward to their performance of the song tonight. Just
praying that their label won't release second single in the middle of the week, that's it.
Posted by: Lomadz Mar 24 2019, 09:51 PM
Not electronic but a bloody good pop song.
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Mar 25 2019, 04:02 AM
They performed on the final of dancing with the stars here in Ireland, good performance and its up to number 4 on iTunes now.
Posted by: zeze88 Mar 25 2019, 07:04 AM
Yeah it was a good performance and I'm glad that this time it is 100% obvious Nicky and Kian didn't mime, I think they actually did in the previous 2 performances.
Posted by: Charis Mar 25 2019, 09:27 AM
it was indeed a good performance, they definitely had more confidence than the one at nta's.... THis should be the conclusion of hello my love and now we move one to new music and the tour...
I am still waiting for it to become silver it is over 152k units in the UK now.
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Mar 25 2019, 12:27 PM
I was sure they would perform the new song as it would have been the best promo slot in Ireland to launch it.
Posted by: Mullo Mar 25 2019, 03:41 PM
New single next Friday then?
Out this week according to Louis Walsh
Posted by: Charis Mar 26 2019, 07:49 AM
Jay do we have sales for Hello My Love?
I can see it being in Top 100 this week as well, but since its on ACR i expect it to sell another 9-10k..
Posted by: myxxd Mar 26 2019, 07:53 PM
They will perform Hello My Love in a German TV Awards show
Posted by: Charis Mar 27 2019, 08:33 AM
wow that was not expected... at all..
Posted by: Charis Mar 30 2019, 03:12 AM
single reached 160k units in the UK, but now I am losing track on it.... Maybe Jay can let us know..
Posted by: Jay ☆ Mar 30 2019, 03:30 AM
^ 163,258! 
It sold 10,122 copies this week.
The ACR rule adjusted the sales (that count towards the chart) to 5,364, which was 142 less than what was needed to be Top 100, unfortunately.
Posted by: Charis Mar 30 2019, 04:29 AM
It sold 10,122 copies this week.The ACR rule adjusted the sales (that count towards the chart) to 5,364, which was 142 less than what was needed to be Top 100, unfortunately.
Thanks!! its the 2nd time it missed the top by a few amount of sales... Never mind, still sending 10k+ is amazing..
Posted by: ThePensmith Mar 30 2019, 07:18 AM
I'm not quite awake yet so I clicked on this topic mistakenly thinking 'Better Man' had got to a 'Part 2' already without rereading the title. Woops
Posted by: Charis Mar 31 2019, 11:54 AM
any particular reason this song disappeared from the Spotify TOP 200 immediately?
Posted by: myxxd Mar 31 2019, 12:27 PM
Out of hot hits uk playlist?
Posted by: myxxd Mar 31 2019, 02:01 PM
#33 on itunes uk now
Posted by: Charis Apr 2 2019, 08:33 AM
#92 in yesterday's update
Posted by: zeze88 Apr 4 2019, 10:41 AM
Since their October 2018 comeback, many of their singles have been certified higher which means their UK listeners are very active up to this day