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 23rd January 2021, 07:01 PM
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 #38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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Don't call them snowflakes...
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23rd January 2021, 08:08 PM
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Full on snow balls more like!!
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31st January 2021, 11:53 AM
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thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch
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Another wave of protests today and police are now pointing the guns at people, forcing them head first into the snow. There are also reports of detainees being tortured at the stations.
4500 detained last week, so far around 1500+ today. |
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31st January 2021, 11:55 AM
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Literal George Floyd style arrests too. This will not end well.
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31st January 2021, 11:59 AM
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The USSR had a habit of ordering the most severe crackdowns when the world's attention was elsewhere. It looks like Putin is carrying on that tradition.
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3rd February 2021, 12:21 PM
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My friend got detained yesterday in another wave of protests as Navalny got officially jailed for 2 years and 8 months.
No doubt this will make things so much worse now. Why can't people f***ing open their eyes?! A lot are still arguing that "Navalny is being paid to destroy Russia". Yeah KAREN keep reading those articles and don't forget that the "world government" is set to wipe 90% of the population by implanting a brain chip that will kill us all at one point. Sounds reasonable to me. |
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22nd April 2021, 04:12 PM
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I'm absolutely FLOORED that she came out yesterday during the protests. SO good. She's blowing up today and most of the comments are positive.
Also weirdly there were very few arrests in Moscow yesterday and the majority are in St Petersburg. The official numbers that are being reported are so much lower than what actually happened, it's pretty funny. This post has been edited by b: 22nd April 2021, 04:13 PM |
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22nd April 2021, 05:15 PM
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What’s happening there, haven’t heard much in the media here?
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22nd April 2021, 05:23 PM
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Russia has been threatening the West and building its troops up along the Ukrainian border. Are the protests rattling Putin or something? The regime seems like it's feeling a little vulnerable, to resort to gunboat diplomacy and threats.
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22nd April 2021, 05:40 PM
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Does anyone know exactly what’s happened in Ukraine over the past 5 years?
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23rd April 2021, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(Dill Doe @ Apr 22 2021, 08:23 PM)  Russia has been threatening the West and building its troops up along the Ukrainian border. Are the protests rattling Putin or something? The regime seems like it's feeling a little vulnerable, to resort to gunboat diplomacy and threats. This was not the actual reason for the protests but it definitely doesn't help the rat king in regaining popularity. |
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8th December 2021, 11:53 PM
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9th December 2021, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(Dill Doe @ Apr 22 2021, 05:23 PM) Russia has been threatening the West and building its troops up along the Ukrainian border. Are the protests rattling Putin or something? The regime seems like it's feeling a little vulnerable, to resort to gunboat diplomacy and threats. Has NATO not been threatening Russia by expanding its influence?? |
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9th December 2021, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(Christmasteve201 @ Dec 9 2021, 08:44 AM) Has NATO not been threatening Russia by expanding its influence?? well yes but it's also been expanding a collection of states that now have collective security from Russia and have essentially zero chance of launching an invasion into Russia the way Russia is signalling it might do with Ukraine. |
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9th December 2021, 06:22 PM
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The way I read it is they are both as bad as each other. I have no sympathy for Russian or American imperialism. At the end of the day NATO isn’t a collection of states it’s a military alliance to extend American influence (led by America)and capitalism around the world. The military arm of the world bank, Washington alliance etc!
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24th January 2022, 05:42 AM
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US has ordered families of embassy staff out of Ukraine.
Russia is definitely preparing for something and I hope to god that it is not an invasion but it's starting to look a lot more likely. |
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24th January 2022, 09:35 AM
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Russia are 100% going to invade Ukraine, it is just whether there is any opposition. It doesn't look likely that the West will deploy troops.
I can't say I'm an expert on the matter, but it just seems like a political game of chess. Russia keep banging on about NATO, but I think it's a load of tosh. I wonder if they are more worried about Ukraine joining both NATO and the EU. I know Russia sees the West as weak currently, but Russia are hardly in an economic prosperity right now either. And if Russia keep trying to get the old USSR back, they're going to find themselves sharing borders with countries part of NATO. |
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24th January 2022, 01:45 PM
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It’s complicated though, Ukraine is a nation made up of many nationalities including Russian speaking peoples on the eastern border near the Donbas! It’s always been a complex area and is in Russias sphere of influence.
It’s like when Cuba made great friends with Khrushev in 1962, America were up in arms about it (and some would say rightly so)! |
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24th January 2022, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Jan 24 2022, 01:45 PM) It’s complicated though, Ukraine is a nation made up of many nationalities including Russian speaking peoples on the eastern border near the Donbas! It’s always been a complex area and is in Russias sphere of influence. It’s like when Cuba made great friends with Khrushev in 1962, America were up in arms about it (and some would say rightly so)! It's very complicated I agree, and part of Putin wanting to control an old-USSR. I am not sure there will be a war, but I'm also not sure what level of sanctions the EU and US will impose on Russia. They of course know the hand is weakened through countries relying on them for gas. Obviously I can't speak for any Russian nationals, but I'd likely suspect this will increase civil unrest in Russia rather than dispel it although maybe more Russians are fascinated by the idea of rebuilding the old Soviet Union than those who are not. |
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24th January 2022, 02:32 PM
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It seems to be a major distraction technique for issues within their borders but also as a method of controlling their own population from getting ideas like the Ukrainians or Belorussians because that is a direct threat to Putin’s power and really like all dictators that’s all he cares about.
Given the Soviet response to Germany post-war and their insistence at the destruction of Prussia (they still hold onto the Capital) and dividing it amongst Russia, Poland and Soviet controlled East Germany as well as the conditions for accepting reunification and their part in the division of Germany really the threat NATO should be implying is that if Russia tries anything they’ll reap what they sowed and Königsberg will be a German city again by the end of the year. As Putin seems to be so hellbent on harking back to the post-WW2 glories of the Soviet Union that’s a threat that wouldn’t be lost on him. Part of me thinks that these talks are Theatre for the home audience he knows will never succeed so why shouldn’t NATO demand to return of Königsberg. It’s never gonna happen, like NATO withdrawing from Eastern Europe. But if putin wants to play silly c**t and try to destabilise NATO, Ukraine and the EU then you gotta fight fire with fire. Leak a map of the proposed post-war division of Moscow, plans for the Kremlin to become a museum on the dangers of Russian imperial aggression, the division of the Russian Federation into occupation zones but also to smaller independent states, returning territories „acquired“ from other states after WW2. It’s time to start playing his game and calling his bluff. |
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