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Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 4th December 2019, 07:32 PM
I certainly will. The last two elections I've taken the dog out at 9.30 and back for the exit poll. On the settee with lots of drinks and snacks and TV on so if I lay down and fall asleep in the early hours it doesn't matter.
Will we have a separate thread for results, state of parties and comments as they come in? "Election Night On Buzzjack"
Hope I'm not just here talking to myself. 
Will you be here Michael? 
Will Sunderland be the first to declare again?
Posted by: Suedehead2 4th December 2019, 07:36 PM
We’ve had a thread in the Lounge for the last two elections and plan to do the same this time.
Posted by: Brett-Butler 4th December 2019, 07:38 PM
There'll probably be a separate thread for election night, I believe that's how we've done it for the last few General Elections.
I fully intend to stay up as late as possible, although I don't think I'll pull an all-nighter, as I'm working the next day. Made it to 3am in 2017, then woke up again around 5am for a few minutes for an update, then worked from home that day.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 4th December 2019, 07:38 PM
Oh right. Does it get busy? Do many stay up then? Don't think I've been on here before at an election result time. Probably was on a certain other big forum which usually goes crashes as it's overloaded.
Posted by: Suedehead2 4th December 2019, 07:39 PM
There have always been a few of us up all night.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 4th December 2019, 07:43 PM
Great then. Last time the dog was very confused. Kept going up to bed and coming to the stop of the stairs wondering why I wasn't coming up.
I was making bacon sandwiches at 6am and went to bed when wife went to work at 9.
Posted by: ElectroBoy 4th December 2019, 08:17 PM
The last election, I started watching and then kept going a little bit longer until it got to like nearly 4am and I had to be in work the next day so went for about 3 hours sleep
Posted by: blacksquare 4th December 2019, 08:17 PM
I’ll likely fall into a deep depression after the Exit Poll and attempt to sleep.
Posted by: T Boy 4th December 2019, 08:26 PM
I have a job where I can’t book days off so absolutely not. It’ll all be there in the morning.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 4th December 2019, 08:29 PM
Yes you're a teacher. I'd pull a sickie.
Posted by: T Boy 4th December 2019, 08:31 PM
And I’d spend the entire next day guilt ridden. Plus it’s actually more work if I’m off school then if I just go in.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 4th December 2019, 09:24 PM
I see.
Posted by: Harve 4th December 2019, 09:35 PM
Planning to actually choose to have a devil's nap (that's when you sleep 6-8pm ish and can't get back to sleep at a normal time) and stay up for as long as I feel. That will be very late indeed on the off chance that the result is good.
I'm one hour ahead of Britain and then I start work at 08h the next day, but fortunately I'm done by 14h.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 4th December 2019, 09:51 PM
May do that too actually. Often fall asleep whilst laid on the settee watching telly anyway.
Posted by: Liаm 4th December 2019, 10:51 PM
Big mood
I feel like this will happen, then I'll be so annoyed and depressed at the exit poll that I won't sleep so get sucked in and end up staying up for it, but I expect if it does go badly there'll come a point at like 3am where I just give up and don't bother anymore
I'm not working til 11 on the Friday anyway so even if I do stay up for it, I can get a bit of sleep in.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 4th December 2019, 11:05 PM
I feel like this will happen, then I'll be so annoyed and depressed at the exit poll that I won't sleep so get sucked in and end up staying up for it, but I expect if it does go badly there'll come a point at like 3am where I just give up and don't bother anymore
I'm not working til 11 on the Friday anyway so even if I do stay up for it, I can get a bit of sleep in.I feel the same. It'll be awful if the exit polls predict a hung parliament or Labour with most seats. The country needs a good working majority for our PM Boris to get Brexit done.
Posted by: LexC 4th December 2019, 11:25 PM
Like others have said, fully depends on the exit poll. The plan in 2017 was to see the early results come in to see how big the Tory majority was going to be, shout at the television with my immediate family and then not be able to face it past 2 or 3 and, well, we all know how that went! (but that's my fallback plan for this time around) This time round I have a job to be awake at 6AM for though so might have to rule that out.
Half contemplating getting in my sleep from, say, 10:30-2 when everything's still up in the air and then getting up in time for the coverage when there's a firmer picture of what's happened but what I'll probably end up doing is not being able to sleep and keep refreshing my twitter feed all night until I pass out.
Posted by: Envoirment 4th December 2019, 11:31 PM
Was going to but I've got work and I'm meant to be going out Friday/Saturday so my sleep may be more important.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 4th December 2019, 11:35 PM
To be honest I hope the exit poll at 10 doesn't show a big Tory majority as it'll ruin the excitement really.
They say Swinson is very likely now to lose her seat. The SNP are fairly confident of taking it and the feeling on the ground is that they will or else it'll be very close.
Would she have to resign as leader straight away if she was no longer an MP? Asked before but nobody answered. Does the Lib-Dem leader have to be an MP?
Posted by: Brett-Butler 4th December 2019, 11:41 PM
I don't think it's a rule that she has to resign as leader (although she did have to be an MP to have been elected one), but I couldn't see how she could lead the party if she's no longer in the Commons. Of course, there's still the possibility she holds on to her seat.
Posted by: Holly and Izzy 4th December 2019, 11:42 PM
My problem is not the hour, which is perfect out here, it's finding a good way to watch the coverage from where I am. If that's sorted, all I have to do is set my alarm for slightly earlier than normal to catch the exit poll live and then I can make a morning of it (I don't work Friday mornings).
Dreading the exit poll not for what it'll predict but that it will inevitably be read off the headlines by the BBC as 'Conservatives are the largest party' even if our best dreams come true and the overall result from that exit poll is more likely to be a Labour minority government.
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 4th December 2019, 11:48 PM
It would be hilarious if she lost it. From "The next Prime Minister" to losing her seat. Well worth staying up for to see her face!
Posted by: Slade 4th December 2019, 11:53 PM
This is the first time I've had a full-time job while an election has taken place, so with needing to be up early and not feeling particularly hopeful about this outcome, I'll probably sit this one out live and just check the following morning.
Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 5th December 2019, 12:18 AM
I'm meant to be working and with having no annual leave left I will prob watch it all night and phone in sick the next morning however if it's totally terrible I may go to bed at 1.30 or so and just go on in the next morning as I usually am in bed late on a Thursday night with QT being on.
Posted by: Doctor Bitch 5th December 2019, 12:21 AM
Almost as good as seeing your face once Johnson and his majority force you back to work or take away your benefits !
Posted by: Michael Bubré 5th December 2019, 12:37 AM
I didn't really plan to stay up all night watching the last election but I did anyway because of the pleasant surprise in the exit poll. I'm feeling the same way this time, if the exit poll forecasts a Tory landslide then I don't feel like I have much interest in staying up and intently watching it unfold in real time. Although realistically I have little else better to do so maybe I would anyway.
Hopefully this'll be the last election night which I'll be unemployed for lol xx
Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 5th December 2019, 12:40 AM
Imagine watching all those pompous toffs with smiles on their faces wondering how they can destroy more poor people's lives in the next 5 years - horrible!
But that's why these scum come into politics unfort as Alan Johnson said as shadow chancellor said during his budget response in 2011!
Posted by: vidsanta 5th December 2019, 06:11 AM
The last time I did that was 1997 - Portillo was a highlight.
The polls would have to be far more wrong than even in 2017 for that to happen - maybe 5% wrong!
Posted by: Suedehead2 5th December 2019, 09:05 AM
They say Swinson is very likely now to lose her seat. The SNP are fairly confident of taking it and the feeling on the ground is that they will or else it'll be very close.
Would she have to resign as leader straight away if she was no longer an MP? Asked before but nobody answered. Does the Lib-Dem leader have to be an MP?
Then I suggest "they" all get down to Ladbrokes and put t heir money where their mouths are. She remains clear favourite to win her seat.
Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 5th December 2019, 09:13 AM
“”””””They”””””” unseated her once already
I won’t be joining on election night. I haven’t got a wifi connection sorted yet or anything that would allow me to stream the results as they come in. I also don’t particularly care. Country is f***ed whatever happens but I’m keeping my fingers crossed that we can deprive Boris of the majority he craves
Posted by: Crazy Chris-tmas 5th December 2019, 09:17 AM
You still haven't answered my quesstion. Would she have to resign as leader? She couldn't put her allotted questions to the PM at PMQ's.
Posted by: Suedehead2 5th December 2019, 10:16 AM
The Lib Dems don't currently have any allotted questions. Only Labour and SNP have had that in the last two parliaments.
Candidates for the leadership have to be an MP. An attempt to change that was defeated earlier this year. Realistically, any leader who lost their seat would have to resign.
Now, how about going back through a few threads and answering all those questions you have left unanswered?
Posted by: vidsanta 5th December 2019, 10:31 AM
I believe there have been party leaders who've lost their seats before - they usually bribe some safe seat sucker with a Lords seat, and have a byelection.
Posted by: Suedehead2 5th December 2019, 10:50 AM
The days when parties can try that trick with any confidence are long gone.
Posted by: mald487 5th December 2019, 11:42 AM
On the basis of knowing how it's going to go, I won't be watching it no and will be avoiding social media the following day.
Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 5th December 2019, 01:38 PM
Famously Herbert Asquith did this but that was 100 years ago and clearly Lloyd George was the real leader at that stage.
Posted by: coi 5th December 2019, 03:30 PM
I'm definitely going to be up all night for the election, as I'm going to be contributing to a local radio station's coverage of it!
Posted by: vidsanta 5th December 2019, 04:57 PM
You realise that won't change the result...
Posted by: Suedehead2 5th December 2019, 05:01 PM
We have a star on board
Posted by: coi 5th December 2019, 07:43 PM
I'm looking forward to it, it means I won't be able to follow it with the site though
Posted by: Brett-Butler 5th December 2019, 07:55 PM
You'll have my eternal gratitude if you manage to sneak the word "Battenberg" into your coverage somehow
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Posted by: ChristmaSteve201 5th December 2019, 07:56 PM
Things move so fast on election night and I usually record the results so I usually don't get to check BJ too much.
Why you in the local radio Coi?
Posted by: coi 5th December 2019, 07:56 PM
.I highly doubt there will be any opportunity to do that!
Posted by: Michael Bubré 5th December 2019, 07:57 PM
.What happened to you running as a candidate for the Battenberg Party? x
Posted by: coi 5th December 2019, 08:14 PM
If he did I'd have had an easy opportunity to say it. If the party idea fails, standing as Lord Battenberg would work too!
Posted by: Brett-Butler 5th December 2019, 08:23 PM
I'd actually filled in the forms to stand in the election as an independent candidate in Belfast North in this election, as I am really not happy with any of the candidates that are running in my constituency. However, after talking it over with my family, I decided not to proceed (they more or less begged me not to). I don't rule out actually doing so in the future - a few people who have been involved with one of the main Northern Irish parties have said that they would help me out if I wanted to stand as a councilor when it rolls around again (which would be in 2024).
Posted by: Santa Klaus 5th December 2019, 08:37 PM
For your own sanity, I think that's for the better.
Posted by: mald487 5th December 2019, 09:47 PM
No, really? I hadn't realized that. Thank you for informing me enlightened one. :rollseyes:
To clarify...by avoiding social media, I will be avoiding the vicious back and forth that will inevitably take place between family and friends. Funnily enough I had suspected that it might not magically change the course of reality. Thank you for confirming that it won't .
Honestly, I know the whole overbearing, patronizing, eye rolling "You do realise...." act followed by magically vanishing when challenged is your y'know....."thing"... but you don't half over do it sometimes.
Posted by: vidsanta 6th December 2019, 05:58 AM
We all have our own posting styles, it's just that me & Chris seem to get more flack - even Michael with his bizarre anti-Tory rants doesn't get as much...
Posted by: T Boy 6th December 2019, 05:45 PM
Michael can be OTT but there is nothing bizarre about being anti Tory.
Posted by: vidsanta 7th December 2019, 06:02 AM
Is that also true of being anti-Corbyn?
Posted by: Holly and Izzy 7th December 2019, 06:39 AM
Don't you mean anti-Labour?
And no, there is not an equivalence between the two parties as things stand. One party is responsible for the homelessness and poverty and austerity in the country. One party is responsible for the division of the country into battle lines based on a failure to control its internal struggles. One party is filled to the brim with right-wing morons who provably lie and stutter their way through any public appearance given. One party has the media covering them for every mistake they make.
Perfectly normal to be anti-Tory. Anti-Labour and you might want to ask yourself why billionaire media owners are running scared to make you so scared of a leader who always performs well in the public eye, is publically campaigning against further division of our society, has high support amongst the young and is proposing spending plans that aren't even as much as Sweden and France just to get some investment back into the country again.
Posted by: vidsanta 7th December 2019, 07:21 AM
Definitely not! It is the direction he has taken the Labour party in that I oppose. If/when they move back towards the centre ground, I will support them again. I was a Labour member in the mid-90's, don't forget.
Posted by: T Boy 7th December 2019, 07:35 AM
How about you finally explain what it is about Corbyn that provokes this reaction?
Posted by: vidsanta 7th December 2019, 08:04 AM
Are you serious? I've explained many times - he is too left wing for me.
Posted by: Holly and Izzy 7th December 2019, 08:07 AM
The Labour party's purpose is to be a party that advocates for the worker, that reins in the extravagances of neoliberal capitalism, not to advocate for it.
I haven't always agreed with Corbyn but I've always stood by that he represents what the Labour party should be and is. A left figure proposing what is really a social democratic form of government, on par with other soc-dem parties in the EU, whose countries are not currently collapsing. So don't even try with the 1970s, can left government work now with better technologies and a better potential economic situation? Yes, right government certainly isn't working for anyone except those at the very top.
See it's not bizarre to be anti-right based on the right's trail of destruction over the country over the last nine years. It is bizarre given that same history to be anti-left.
Posted by: vidsanta 7th December 2019, 08:48 AM
I haven't always agreed with Corbyn but I've always stood by that he represents what the Labour party should be and is. A left figure proposing what is really a social democratic form of government, on par with other soc-dem parties in the EU, whose countries are not currently collapsing. So don't even try with the 1970s, can left government work now with better technologies and a better potential economic situation? Yes, right government certainly isn't working for anyone except those at the very top.
See it's not bizarre to be anti-right based on the right's trail of destruction over the country over the last nine years. It is bizarre given that same history to be anti-left.
Being left-wing is all very well, but if you can't get elected on that platform, it's all for nothing.
Posted by: Holly and Izzy 7th December 2019, 09:56 AM
Why do you think the media keep bringing up the quite frankly bullshit and self-fulfilling trait of 'electability' and 'Prime Ministerial'? It's to frame the narrative in the favour of the incumbent to edge the votes away from those they see as a threat*.
Debate polls too, remember that ITV debate where all the polls showed Corbyn as the winner, aside from YouGov which was presented as neck-and-neck. Guess which one the MSM ran with, and which one is perceived to be the truth?
*worth saying this is not a British or Corbynite phenomenon, it's being seen all over the world as capitalist forces react to stop successful left movements, from the coup in Bolivia to the minimising of the Chilean protests to the 'moderates' in the Democratic primaries
Oh why are woman so annoying!!!