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post 23rd September 2021, 01:29 AM
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As much as I'd love to criticise, Starmer for this, and I am in one sense, he's just reiterating the 2010 Equalities Act which guarantees the right to single-sex spaces. Which shows that that needs to be updated to take into account the needs of trans people. And that he's not calling for this and not sacking Duffield for her continued hate campaign is pretty shameful inaction.
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post 23rd September 2021, 11:38 AM
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Whilst I appreciate the equality act - our rules don't even add up in this space, that in itself should mean they need looking at again.

For example... for a trans or intersex person to have their gender corrected on their birth certificate, they have to be able to demonstrate that they have been living as the gender they are wanting it to be changed to and one of the tests in that is whether they have been using these 'safe spaces'!
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post 26th September 2021, 10:08 PM
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Health secretary Savid Javid - who wanted the economy to go back irrespective of the COVID death toll now is covering bad news by tweeting transphobic shit about only women can have a cervix basically erasing transmen.

Bring bang Hancock with his sleaze and corruption anyday of the week.


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post 11th October 2021, 11:47 AM
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post 11th October 2021, 11:52 AM
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Wow someone punched her in the face at a restaurant table and nothing was done?!!! Jesus.
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post 11th October 2021, 12:09 PM
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It feels like it’s almost every other day my feed has News of a horrific phobic attack. Super depressing really


I wish that our government cared enough to do or say literally anything
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post 15th October 2021, 07:01 AM
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Yes, this is a real trailer by the BBC.
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post 15th October 2021, 08:39 AM
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Absolutely disgusting - but demonising trans people for theatre seems to work for ratings, or in the BBC's case being prominent in the Government's divide and rule strategy.
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post 15th October 2021, 08:44 AM
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Absolutely vile.
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post 15th October 2021, 09:06 AM
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I'm actually fuming about this, but not sure exactly what I should do. sad.gif
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post 15th October 2021, 09:43 AM
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„Public service“ broadcaster.


Has been unfit for purpose for years now and it’s getting worse
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post 26th October 2021, 02:15 PM
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The BBC are now into sharing transphobic articles apparently..

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post 26th October 2021, 02:32 PM
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Worse than sharing, commissioning them. They'll add fuel to the fire - very dangerous when violent crime against LGBT+ people is going through the roof (which is weirdly hardly ever reported on the news).
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post 26th October 2021, 03:26 PM
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The data in that article comes from...the leader of an anti trans organisation's survey of 80 of her friends/followers. Half of which said they'd never been coerced by a trans woman!
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post 26th October 2021, 06:20 PM
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There is something very seriously wrong with the BBC right now. We are on a path where people will die because of this
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post 27th October 2021, 10:13 PM
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I'm sorry, but why is it suddenly cool to ignore women's lived experiences? Is it because it makes males and their pre-perceptions, once again, feel uncomfortable?
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post 28th October 2021, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE(tommie @ Oct 27 2021, 10:13 PM) *
I'm sorry, but why is it suddenly cool to ignore women's lived experiences? Is it because it makes males and their pre-perceptions, once again, feel uncomfortable?


Stop dogwhistling and come out and say it. Whose women's experiences? What did they experience? Women are on average less transphobic than men. It's a loud vocal minority who makes trends on Twitter that you can see are transphobic a mile off and they should be ignored like the bigots they are.

Absolutely disgusting BBC article, I cannot believe that got printed. The bias is palpable and it's going to cause great harm in the future.
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post 28th October 2021, 03:00 AM
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QUOTE(Iz �� @ Oct 28 2021, 01:43 AM) *
Stop dogwhistling and come out and say it. Whose women's experiences? What did they experience? Women are on average less transphobic than men. It's a loud vocal minority who makes trends on Twitter that you can see are transphobic a mile off and they should be ignored like the bigots they are.

Absolutely disgusting BBC article, I cannot believe that got printed. The bias is palpable and it's going to cause great harm in the future.


Yes, you're saying it - a "minority" of women. But is it? You don't even dare to confront a fact.

And by the way - if women are less transphobic than men, how comes that women are the ones that are reporting this?

By the way: where the f*** is the women?


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post 28th October 2021, 05:05 AM
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QUOTE(tommie @ Oct 28 2021, 03:00 AM) *
Yes, you're saying it - a "minority" of women. But is it? You don't even dare to confront a fact.

And by the way - if women are less transphobic than men, how comes that women are the ones that are reporting this?

By the way: where the f*** is the women?


It is a fact, as borne out by data collected in polls (that anti-trans people are this numerous is sickening and entirely the result of a media that is filled with the same homophobes who've switched focus to transphobia, but even with that, it is still a minority).

This + further examples in the thread all support that:
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post 28th October 2021, 08:09 AM
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The article is designed to make any issue it identifies seem much larger and more commonplace than it is.

Assumptions that it makes include:

* All trans women are attracted to women

* Anybody can pressure anyone into sex and no-one can oppose that

* Having certain body parts makes someone a woman. But let's just ignore that if someone born with those body parts has had them removed for non-gender-related medical reasons we'll still consider them a woman. E.g. anyone who had a masectomy or lower surgery

* The fact that the current transition framework in the UK requires someone who wants to to live as that gender full-time for a year BEFORE they are allowed to access hormones or surgeries - guaranteeing that someone pre-transition surgery will identify as e.g. a woman while still having a penis

* Ignoring the fact that female hormones interrupt the normal working of a male reproductive system, making a sexual assault very unlikely to succeed purely from a physical reality standpoint

* and finally, misrepresentation of sources in that article.

I actually wish trans issues COULD be talked about in media openly and honestly. Instead major news media in the UK insists on publishing these kinds of one-sided and suggestive articles where words like 'some', implications and omissions are doing a lot of heavy lifting.
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