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Oct 22 2015, 12:04 PM
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The first by-election of the 2015-20 parliament is set to be in Oldham West following the death of Labour MP Michael Meacher. He had a majority of over 14,500 in May with UKIP second. The Tories were third and the Lib Dems lost their deposit. Meacher was one of the 22 MPs who nominated Jeremy Corbyn for the leadership and actually voted for him.
Labour may choose to go for a quick by-election in early- to mid-December, or they may wait until the new year. |
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Oct 22 2015, 12:38 PM
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I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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Thank god it's not a marginal. I don't have the energy.
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Oct 22 2015, 07:38 PM
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DROTTNING!
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I'm willing for a narrow win over UKIP.
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Oct 22 2015, 07:39 PM
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DROTTNING!
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Also that's Oldham West and ROYTON thank you
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Oct 25 2015, 11:30 AM
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Are you gonna campaign for a Corbyn led Labour Party then Qass?
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Oct 25 2015, 11:37 AM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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Michael Meacher once described socialism as the redistribution of wealth and power to give all people greater opportunity and control over their own lives. : )
Labour should hold quite easily, however nearby Heywood and Middleton was VERY close and that was when the UKIP machine was split between them and Clacton-on-Sea so should probably not be underestimated. |
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Oct 25 2015, 11:47 AM
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DROTTNING!
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Michael Meacher once described socialism as the redistribution of wealth and power to give all people greater opportunity and control over their own lives. : ) As did Liam Byrne - it's certainly not a controversial proscription in the Labour Party, just most of us tend to disagree on how to get there! |
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Oct 25 2015, 11:48 AM
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DROTTNING!
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Oct 25 2015, 12:20 PM
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I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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Michael Meacher once described socialism as the redistribution of wealth and power to give all people greater opportunity and control over their own lives. : ) Labour should hold quite easily, however nearby Heywood and Middleton was VERY close and that was when the UKIP machine was split between them and Clacton-on-Sea so should probably not be underestimated. The seat is a slightly different makeup, with a far smaller non-Labour vote to eat into. They'll be an easy second, but it should be more like Rotherham than Heywood. |
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Oct 30 2015, 12:39 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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The Oldham West and Royton by-election will be on 3 December.
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Oct 30 2015, 11:09 AM
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Labour selection looks likely to be Jim McMahon (leader of Oldham Council), who was expected to be a major contender to be our candidate for Mayor in 2017.
Kate Godfrey who ran in Stafford in the GE has also thrown her hat into the ring. And then got all sorts of abuse for it. |
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Oct 30 2015, 03:47 PM
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Now that the date is fixed, we can mention the fact that, by a strange coincidence, the first by-election of the last parliament was in the neighbouring constituency of Oldham East and Saddleworth.
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Oct 30 2015, 04:30 PM
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I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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If that pattern continues, my constituency will have a by-election in three years. Probably won't be very interesting.
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Oct 30 2015, 04:37 PM
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If the pattern continues, I'll be long dead before it gets anywhere near me
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Oct 30 2015, 06:57 PM
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Howdy, disco citizens
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Labour selection looks likely to be Jim McMahon (leader of Oldham Council), who was expected to be a major contender to be our candidate for Mayor in 2017. Kate Godfrey who ran in Stafford in the GE has also thrown her hat into the ring. And then got all sorts of abuse for it. That's a shame. I had half hoped that Corbyn would try to put Billy Bragg up for it. |
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Nov 2 2015, 06:51 PM
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Howdy, disco citizens
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Lib Dems have got the ball rolling by selecting Jane Brophy as their candidate for the by-election. She's failed twice to become the MP for the nearby Altrincham and Sale West constituency (2nd in 2010, 3rd in 2015), and the Lib Dem candidate lost his deposit in this constituency this year, so don't expect her to be going to Westminster any time soon.
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Nov 2 2015, 08:46 PM
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Lib Dems have got the ball rolling by selecting Jane Brophy as their candidate for the by-election. She's failed twice to become the MP for the nearby Altrincham and Sale West constituency (2nd in 2010, 3rd in 2015), and the Lib Dem candidate lost his deposit in this constituency this year, so don't expect her to be going to Westminster any time soon. I think the limit of her ambition will be to get the percentage back into double figures. As the party are unlikely to spend much on the campaign, even that could prove elusive. For comparison, the Lib Dem vote in the constituency has never been higher than around 20%, so it's been a no-hoper for a long time. |
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Nov 2 2015, 10:43 PM
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Lib Dems have got the ball rolling by selecting Jane Brophy as their candidate for the by-election. She's failed twice to become the MP for the nearby Altrincham and Sale West constituency (2nd in 2010, 3rd in 2015), and the Lib Dem candidate lost his deposit in this constituency this year, so don't expect her to be going to Westminster any time soon. Nearby is stretching it a little! She's fucking awful though. My first encounter with the notorious Lib Dem bar charts was in 2010 when she used the local election voting percentages on her leaflet showing them coming second and was obviously pretending it was for the last GE. |
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Nov 2 2015, 10:51 PM
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Nearby is stretching it a little! She's fucking awful though. My first encounter with the notorious Lib Dem bar charts was in 2010 when she used the local election voting percentages on her leaflet showing them coming second and was obviously pretending it was for the last GE. Those bar charts have been going for a great deal longer than that When used properly, they are a perfectly legitimate - and sensible - tactic. Sadly, all parties are now guilty of misusing them at times. |
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Dec 4 2015, 12:08 AM
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Reports suggest that Labour have won comfortably. There are some suggestions that their majority will have been boosted massively by postal votes, i.e. votes cast before this week's vote on Syria. If the Tories tried to time the Syria vote to cause maximum embarrassment in Oldham, they failed. Earlier, UKIP were claiming that they beat Labour on votes cast at the polling stations. That now looks unlikely.
One report gives Labour a likely majority (in percentage terms) roughly the same as in May. Obviously, the number will be down as the turnout was a shade over 40% compared with just under 60% in May. |
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