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Posted by: Jay ☆ 14th March 2019, 06:36 PM

Totally stolen this idea from the http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=220269, ta Jonjo 💋


Use this thread to share your unpopular Spice Girls related opinions (i.e.you assume the majority of the fan base and/or the public would disagree with you!)


I'll start with...

I'll Be There is my least favourite "original" single by Emma 😲 (I'd only consider her covers of Crickets, Downtown and I Know Him So well to be worse singles).

I think Emma has a superior singing voice to Melanie C. Maybe not in terms of overall technical ability, but... it's far more pleasant sounding

Posted by: Spiceboy 14th March 2019, 06:37 PM

I hate you already gtfo!!!

Posted by: Spiceboy 14th March 2019, 06:39 PM

My unpopular opinion is I think Lullaby was actually a decent single and is underrated.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 14th March 2019, 06:39 PM

You could never hate me!

Now share your unpopular opinions and let's see if I have reason to hate you

Posted by: sammy01 14th March 2019, 07:44 PM

Victoria has never really added anything to the group bar celebrity after she met David.

Mama has slowly over the years worked it's way up my fave list and sonically it is the 1 song that absolutely comes alive when they tour.

Mel C could just about scrape together a solid 15 tracks album from Reason, BI, TT, the sea and VOM, she is the queen of drab filler.

Emma has by far the most solid solo career quality wise.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 14th March 2019, 07:52 PM

I actually really like 'Take My Breath Away' and 'Desire'.

Posted by: JosephAvery 14th March 2019, 08:03 PM

For Once In My Life is one of the best Spice-related tracks

Posted by: sammy01 14th March 2019, 08:06 PM

It is generic as hell but it is defo top class generic. Katy Perry would have had a huge hit with it back in the day.

Posted by: Maz! 14th March 2019, 08:08 PM

Melanie C should stop releasing albums on Red Girl and get herself a record deal so she can get better producers who actually write her some decent tunes instead of the drab she has been releasing since her This Time album.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 14th March 2019, 08:11 PM

On the Horizon and If That Were Me are both great!!

Posted by: Maz! 14th March 2019, 08:15 PM

Victoria’s fashion designer job is even more boring than Emma working at Kit&Kin.

Posted by: Maz! 14th March 2019, 08:18 PM

Song For Her issa bop!

Posted by: vibe 14th March 2019, 09:06 PM

A Girl Like Me is garbage .

Posted by: SouthernStar88 14th March 2019, 09:50 PM

I don't like Maybe and I Turn To You (Hex Hector Mix) but I love All I Need To Know and Goin' Down

Posted by: Mr.X 14th March 2019, 10:32 PM

Headlines is not their worst single.
Wannabe and Mama are their worst songs.

I always resented the fact that they lipsinc'ed for most of their career as a group. That really didnt help their reputation as it showed them as half-arsed singers and that really dented their legacy. Perhaps they would have been taken more seriously had they put a bit more effort into that from the beginning.

Mel C might have the longest solo career (without interruptions, ah as of 2019) but her outputs haven't grown at all and creatively she seems stuck in 1999/2001.

Emma's first album was dull as f*** and if she had released Free Me back in 2001 instead, she would have had even more success.
Emma should have toured and that is part of the reason why she was never trully successful as she had the potential to be.
Emma needs to throw herself into more experimental grounds. She would have been excellent with a bit more nuanced musically. She did well with FM and LiM but she could have gone further musically and also perform at places like Jools Holland and more interesting avenues like that.

Mel B is underrated Spice. She really experimented with sounds that were not that popular for mainstream acts at the time of their release.
Her initial run of videos for her singles with Virgin was almost perfect and the most consistently good out of them all. I Want You Back + Word Up + Tell Me + Feels So Good + Lullaby were all incredibly well crafted videos. Even if they didnt get much success, you can't say they were *bad* at all.

Mel B always had the best quality overall to become a mega pop star. Shame she was held back by a lot of factors.

Geri is not a great popstar. I know people love her for her attitude, but honestly she shoudl have been a song-writer. It is not that all pop singers need to be the best vocalists and/or the best dancers. But her performances never felt quite honest/from the heart, which is the main feature of an artist. She just goes to the motions and tries to keep up, and it shows.

Victoria was never really a popstar. You could tell she was not that into it. I am glad she was a part of it, but music just wasnt for her.

Posted by: Spiceboy 14th March 2019, 11:22 PM

Geri and Victoria just wanted to be famous and they would have done anything to be famous. Emma too to some extent. The two Melanie's are the only two that were genuinely performers, although Mel B changed alot from 2007 onwards and I'd say Melanie C is the only one who truly does it because she wants to perform on stage.

Posted by: Eduardo 15th March 2019, 12:21 AM

- I love those never-ending Emma's adlibs at the end of If You Wanna Have Some Fun, I wouldn't mind another minute or two of them.
- Melanie C is great, but think of overrated;
- I preferer Life in Mono to Free Me (they're both amazing though);
- I could say how awful "A Girl Like Me" is, but seeing the previous posts, that doesn't sound like an unpopular opinion at all.

Posted by: sammy01 15th March 2019, 12:27 AM

I'm not sure where this A girl like me hate is coming from, it isn't the most amazing album but What took you so long, What I am, Take my breath away, Sunshine on a rainy day, A world without you are all top notch songs.

The rest is harmless pop. There is nothing actually shit on it like Soul Boy.

Posted by: Piers 15th March 2019, 02:15 AM

I've got several unpopular opinions, but this is probably the main one.

I like every single song on the group's three studio albums and Greatest Hits.......except one. Time Goes By.

That opening keyboard sounds like the beginning of some hellish children's talent show performance. What follows just plods along. It's the only song the group's recorded that I think sounds inauthentic. I also think Mel C's ad-libs at the end are the least flattering she's ever sounded on a Spice song. Didn't like the song on first listen. It's never grown on me in more than 18 years.

I assumed this one was just cranked out by Darkchild...after he'd already given them a few single choices and was ready to take their money and get the album over with. But. No. The girls seem to really like the thing. Mel C...who would seemingly rather eat a light bulb than continue with the group at that point...even suggested it be a Christmas single. She continued to sing its praises even years after Forever crashed and burned.

I wouldn't be shocked if it even springs up at the reunion show. I'll grin and bear it.

Posted by: Maz! 15th March 2019, 09:22 AM

I kinda love the demo version of Wannabe more than the actual album/single version

Posted by: Jade 15th March 2019, 09:37 AM

Like Aly, I also really enjoy 'Desire' and think it's one of Geri's absolute best solo songs.

Posted by: Michael Andrew 15th March 2019, 11:09 AM

My unpopular opinion... Mel B is arguably the most naturally gifted performer of the band.

She has a broad vocal range that she rarely demonstrates. She has an obvious warm, soothing quality in her lower register, but also a pleasant, easy higher register. Her dance ability comes naturally. And she's always looked stunning.

She owned the 'Forever' era.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th March 2019, 11:28 AM

I think 99% of geri,s solo music is awful and she was always more for the fame than anything else. I feel she has little talent but to be fair her attitude got her where she is not talent.

Posted by: vibe 15th March 2019, 06:35 PM

She hardly sings on forever

Posted by: SouthernStar88 15th March 2019, 07:02 PM

- Hot of Mel B is a great album
- Wannabe is overrated, I hate the fact that the girls for many people are recognizable only for this song
- Victoria has a very pleasant voice
- Melanie C is my favourite Spice Girl, I adore her, she's a great singer/songwriter but i think that Emma is a better singer than her
- I love Numb
- Mel B is the best dancer
- I must admit that I'm a little worried for the rendition of Geri in the upcoming tour (because of her singing/dancing abilities), I hope I can be denied
- The apex of Spiceworld for me is the triptych Do It - Denying - Viva Forever
- Tell Me Why, Get Down With Me, Wasting My Time, Weekend Love and Time Goes By are pure fillers, I don't like these songs so much

Posted by: JosephStyles 22nd June 2020, 05:37 PM

Ooh a little bump seeing as I feel like I'm developing a few unpopular opinions x

- This Time is Melanie C's best solo song
- When You're Gone is a bit annoying
- LA State of Mind is actually a pretty great album and is better than Hot (is this unpopular? I really don't know x)
- Half of Me is objectively shit (a popular opinion) but I can't help loving it
- Desire is one of Geri's best
- Geri doesn't actually have any bad singles (Angels In Chains is probably my least favourite but it's sweet!)
- Not Such An Innocent Girl deserved better
- The highs of Melanie C's solo music are absolutely worthy of rivalling their group singles

Posted by: Andrew. 22nd June 2020, 05:46 PM

Geri's cover of It's Raining Men is one of the best not just solo Spice songs but overall Spice

Posted by: JosephStyles 22nd June 2020, 05:48 PM

It's Raining Men has been climbing up the Geri ranks for me recently I'd maybe put it... 5th? Behind Bag It Up, Ride It, Mi Chico Latino and Desire x

Posted by: Andrew. 22nd June 2020, 05:50 PM

It's so euphoric, I'd take it over the orignal Pointer Girls version anyday ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Posted by: Spiceboy 22nd June 2020, 05:51 PM

I don't think that is an unpopular opinion tbh I think most would agree that the two Mel's are the most talented members of the group performance wise. Both have good voices and both can dance really well. Next is Emma and Victoria in that Emma has a good voice but Victoria is a superior dancer. Then poor Geri can't dance or sing She brought a lot of other creativity and drive to the group though

I'd say this is the girls ranking technically

Dancing
1. Melanie B
2. Melanie C
3. Victoria
4. Emma
5. Geri

Singing
1. Melanie C
2. Emma
3. Melanie B (she was pretty much tied with Emma back in the day but Emma's voice has improved while Mel's has got worse)
4. Victoria
5. Geri

Overall performance quality
1. Melanie B/C
2. Emma / Victoria
4. Geri

Posted by: vibe 22nd June 2020, 06:26 PM

LA State Of Mind is better than Hot !! And many other solo spice albums.

Posted by: McAndrew 23rd June 2020, 02:41 PM

Oh the shade at Emma's dancing ability. Surely you've not forgotten the 'Maybe' choreo?

I actually think that rank is the unpopular opinion here! Haha

Posted by: Spiceboy 23rd June 2020, 03:27 PM

To be fair I’m not slating Emma’s dancing she’s just the only one (bar Geri of course) who I’ve not seen do a complex fierce powerful routine. Maybe is a fab choreography but it’s not a patch on Victoria during Out of your mind... then the two Mel’s during this tour showed they are clearly the strongest two dancers...

Posted by: Mr.X 23rd June 2020, 03:43 PM

Hhhhmmmm this aint it chief

I would say that overall in terms of general talent across the board and live performance, Mel C/Emma/Mel B kind of stand equally, I think. Whilst Mel B is the best dancer, Mel C has the best technicality on her voice and Emma is a generally good dancer and the best singer of them all. Each of the three are better at a specific thing that the others lack, I think. but overall the three of them are equal when it comes to performance. Just that Mel B and Mel C have the most 'personality' when it comes to performance due to their 'character's that lend themselves better to a live setting that is so energetic.

In terms of singing, well I think Mel C has had the most training/experience but I actually think that Emma rivals her quite well and at times overtakes her. Mel C is the most consistently good though, that's for sure! When Emma is focused, she can sing better than all of them put together, imo. Mel B's voice has indeed deteriorated with time which is a shame as she has such a lovely tone and she can belt it out when she wants/commits! Victoria and Geri were never great singers, lets be honest. Both their voices did well to compliment the group but individually? Na.... Victoria has some lovely moments (Say You'll Be There, Saturday Night, etc) but in general her tone isnt great...

When it comes to dancing, your rate is spot on though!

So I would do:

Singing:

Emma/Mel C tied
Mel B
Victoria
Geri

Dancing:
Mel C/Mel B
Victoria
Emma
Geri

Overall:

Emma/Mel C/Mel B
Victoria
....
Geri

Posted by: Spiceboy 23rd June 2020, 03:56 PM

I think your rating is probably more fair than mine actually. Maybe I was being a bit harsh because actually Emma's voice supports all the Spice Girls songs tbf, I think I got a bit preoccupied by Victoria's dancing and thought well that's better than Emma's dancing while Emma's singing is better than Victoria's singing...but actually Emma has a strong voice and can dance well while Victoria can dance well but does not have a good voice (if we are being brutally honest) so yes she ranks above Victoria.

Overall performance wise I feel like the two Mel's dominate though, and actually if Mel B's voice was a bit better then I'd put her at #1 she really is an all rounder tbh on the stage performance wise... she owns it!

Posted by: Piers 24th June 2020, 05:06 AM

I've got one that's sure to be divisive...

I've never totally gotten Let Your Head Go. And I say that as someone who likes *a lot* of their solo singles.

I don't hate it. I've grown to like it a bit better over the years as a guilty pleasure thing. But I find it clunky...and it's one of *very* few solo singles where I find the lyrics to be...eh.

Oh the flip side, I actually really, really like her unreleased pop album. But it's to note...the rest of that material was created by Richard Stannard and other high profile writers/producers. Let Your Head Go is the only one with producers behind it...who don't appear to have done much else. To me, it's the clear weakest of all the unreleased pop album tracks. Though...I will say I like LYHG better than the majority of the unreleased Damon Dash material.

I was convinced for a while that Victoria intentionally picked the weakest of her pop material (LYHG)...to release on a double AA side with the best of her r'n'b material (This Groove), in an attempt to rig audience reception and convince Simon Fuller to go the r'n'b album route. But. Instead, it seems most fans actually find LYHG to be the best of her solo singles. So. I think I stand corrected.

Posted by: Mr.X 24th June 2020, 12:24 PM

Bunton is definitely up there with the Mels as the best of the lot in general. You can apply that thinking around 'if Mel B's voice was better' to Bunton's dancing abilities. She is super present and engaged, and she shines live just like the other two. She isn't as 'energetic' but that doesnt always mean that she isnt better. Her performance style is more relaxed, but that doesnt mean it is less engaging. As a performer myself, let me tell you that this is all a personal perspective situation. Art and performance is about attraction. So if you would like art works and performances that are more energetic, then Mel C and Mel B will take the cake for you. If you are the type of person who prefers a more relaxed performance, then Bunton is your gal. But overall, the three of them are on equal footings, I think.

But yes, I wish Mel B would have taken better care of her voice AND singing abilities. She is great and could be a great singer if she set her mind to it.

Posted by: Mr.X 24th June 2020, 12:25 PM

I suppose my main Unpopular Opinion is this:

If Emma had a better A&R, live touring and PR team around her, she would be the most successful solo Spice today

Posted by: Spiceboy 24th June 2020, 01:57 PM

and better music, more talent, more passion, wasn't so bloody lazy...

Posted by: JaneJ 24th June 2020, 02:40 PM

Absolutely correct. Art is diverse, otherwise it would be so boring. Emma is a natural performer in her own way, her dance moves suit her well and her presence is always attractive and charming. During Olympics performance Baby Spice was trending along with Mel B. I guess being in the spice girls had messed up all the girls heads, some losing confidence, some think they're superior than other girls. And talent is overrated, the fact that people always think someone has no talent so they don't deserve success or worhtless is dead wrong. Being lazy doesn't deserve success though.

Posted by: Piers 24th June 2020, 02:47 PM

To me, part of the issue with Mel B has been that there doesn't seem to be much care/understanding of how her voice is used best.

She's never been someone who can comfortably sing just anything, but she has a specific range where she can sound very good. The Spice Girls material plays to her strong suits. I think a few of her collaborators understood her range too...namely Missy and Jam n' Lewis.

But her voice was so wrong for Mimi in Rent that it's a wonder she didn't get canned before her debut. I don't think her voice sounds comfortable on about half of LA State of Mind. Lips Lock and that performance of Fever from It's a Scary World were completely wrong for her voice. While I like For Once In My Life as a song, it's of a range she was never going to be able to replicate live...and then she went and proved she couldn't on the Today Show.

She's a far better singer than both Geri and Victoria...and yet, I'm not sure Geri and Victoria (in their very few televised live performances) ever had a showing as rough as For Once in My Life on Today.

Posted by: McAndrew 24th June 2020, 05:37 PM

I agree that the For Once In My Life performance was painful but I don't think Mel was to blame. It looked really badly planned.

Everything was OTT - the dance routine, smoke machines, light effects, wind machines, even her hair was all over the place. But she struggled through like a true professional. I felt overwhelmed just watching it. I don't know how she coped.

She also needed more reverb on her mic and some background harmonies on the lines of the song that she was singing.

The whole performance was too exposing and overly ambitious. What was her manager doing? Did she have one?

Posted by: Mr.X 24th June 2020, 08:45 PM

I totally agree, but I also think there is another issue at play here, and that is the UK media and music industry's racism (even if unintentionally so).

If you listen to Mel B's audition from back in the day, and some of the performances since, you can tell her voice is quite amazing when she puts her mind to it, when she feels comfortable. However, and this is the case with most black members of UK girl bands, she was always seen as 'the gobby black girl' and never seen as a singer. Producers and press alike never treated her as primarily a singer even when she was in the band, but certainly as a solo artist. Similar happened to Geri and Victoria of course, but that's a different ball game. We all know that Geri and Victoria werent good singers. But Mel B certainly was! But the press couldn't quite see past her 'personality'. "She's so 'fiesty' and 'scary' and 'wild'" etc etc etc etc etc.

Now you can say that this is partly 'her fault' because she 'should have focused on her talent' but when you have the whole world against you, you might just start to believe it.

It's well known that black british singers dont have much longevity in the industry, specially girl band members who venture solo. Plus the constant derranged obsession that the press had with their singing abilities plus their racism towards her (which has been well documented and Mel herself has always spoken about) might have damaged her confidence.

Psychologically, you can only imagine what that must do to your confidence. After a few years, you start to loose faith/confidence in your ability. Because Mel CAN absolutely sing. Yes, it is partly her fault for not focusing her career on it, but I think it is mostly because the industry and the press didnt give her a proper chance. They didn't know what 'to do with her', and as you say, she has always been positioned in a way that wasn't 'her' to the public as a solo artist, I think.

There is a really interesting conversation happening now in the UK scene about this since some black female artists have started to talk about it publicly over the past few weeks.
Look at Keisha from Sugababes. Look at Alexandra Burke. Look at Leona Lewis. Look at Gabrielle, Misha B, Jamelia, Samantha Mumba, Emily Sandé, etc. They have all been incredibly wronged by the industry because of the colour of thier skin.

We can only imagine, beyond what they told us, the shite that went down behind the scenes. Mel B probably suffered it on a world wide scale, and that must really be a f***er on your confidence, you know?!

I really wished Mel has been given a proper change as a solo artist. She has the talent for it and the passion. She just needed a team around her that really understood and supported her.

For me, Mel's solo pop career is the biggest shame in the UK pop scene. She deserved much better!

Posted by: Wall 24th June 2020, 08:49 PM

What I am is the best solo spice girls song then lift me up
Spice girls are also a tad overrated x

Posted by: JaneJ 24th June 2020, 09:01 PM

How are they overrated when they get slammed all the time?

Posted by: Spiceboy 24th June 2020, 09:07 PM

The fact you just named those two the best solo spice songs just invalidated the rest of your statement!

Posted by: Spice Girls Net 26th June 2020, 05:50 PM

I think Outer Space Girls and Spice Invaders are both overrated

Posted by: Hide&Seek 26th July 2020, 04:00 PM

No one looks good in animal print (except actual animals ), not even Mel B.

Posted by: Spiceboy 26th July 2020, 05:40 PM

WRONG