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15th January 2018, 05:02 PM
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I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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15th January 2018, 05:20 PM
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Buffy/Charmed
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I wouldn't be surprised if Mad Maybot etc want to leave now, no matter the cost, to stop the right vote from being split, unlike the left, and have that unfair advantage as their party gets less and less popular and membership drops. UKIP reacts by creating headlines/ being desperate. For UKIP leaving the EU always meant the end of the party ironically enough - to the point of desperate fist fights, headlines, and Farage trying to re-run the referendum.
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21st January 2018, 05:32 PM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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Vote of no confidence in party leader Henry Bolton unanimously backed by UKIP NEC.
Days Bolton lasted as leader: 114 Days people knew Bolton was leader: 10 Days previous leader Paul Nuttall managed: 193 Chance of UKIP being a serious force in British politics again: 0 |
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21st January 2018, 05:41 PM
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If Nigie wants UKIP to be a force in politics again he should step back up to the leadership role. Clearly no one else can lead the party.
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21st January 2018, 05:45 PM
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Brown cow, stunning!
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Nor can he tho
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21st January 2018, 05:56 PM
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Queen of Soon
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They may as well fold tbh. Ironically the only thing keeping them afloat financial is the European Parliament.
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21st January 2018, 06:24 PM
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Cœur poids plume
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They should disband and split off to join the Tories while the extremist faction should launch some AFD-type party. This should have happened a while ago.
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22nd January 2018, 07:35 AM
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Paul Hyett
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Vote of no confidence in party leader Henry Bolton unanimously backed by UKIP NEC. Days Bolton lasted as leader: 114 Days people knew Bolton was leader: 10 Days previous leader Paul Nuttall managed: 193 Chance of UKIP being a serious force in British politics again: 0 The second one could just as easily be 'people who knew Bolton was leader'. They may as well fold tbh. Ironically the only thing keeping them afloat financial is the European Parliament. UKIP will not disappear until Brexit is finalised |
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22nd January 2018, 08:34 AM
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I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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22nd January 2018, 09:01 AM
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Paul Hyett
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22nd January 2018, 12:16 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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Well, I was thinking more in terms of - no more danger of politicians backsliding on the referendum result. MPs are obliged by their code of conduct to vote for what they believe to be in the national interest. If enough of them rediscover their backbone and abide by that code of conduct, they won't be "backsliding", they will be doing their duty. |
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22nd January 2018, 12:27 PM
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Paul Hyett
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MPs are obliged by their code of conduct to vote for what they believe to be in the national interest. If enough of them rediscover their backbone and abide by that code of conduct, they won't be "backsliding", they will be doing their duty. MP's are also aware of what the likely political consequences of reneging on a democratic vote would be! |
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22nd January 2018, 01:20 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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MP's are also aware of what the likely political consequences of reneging on a democratic vote would be! That's not in the code of conduct. MPs (including T May and J Corbyn) are casually voting for something that they said less than two years ago was not in the national interest. |
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22nd January 2018, 01:59 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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That's not in the code of conduct. MPs (including T May and J Corbyn) are casually voting for something that they said less than two years ago was not in the national interest. ...and I'd add they get elected on platforms that voters assume they will be getting but usually don't. Virtually everything the Tories claimed they would do in the last 2 elections have already proven to be lies bar one: having a referendum. Telling lies is the one thing they excel at (not in getting away with it, just in the audacity of turning up in public secure in the knowledge that journalists will allow them to get away with it)! |
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22nd January 2018, 02:46 PM
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Paul Hyett
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People *expect* politicians to lie, but once a policy has been implemented, they expect them to follow-through on it.
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22nd January 2018, 03:04 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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People *expect* politicians to lie, but once a policy has been implemented, they expect them to follow-through on it. That attitude has helped to get us into this mess. Yes, people have been saying "politicians are all liars" for as long as I can remember. However, for most of that time, it simply wasn't true. Yes, they might bend the truth but out-and-out lies were rare. Then along came Cameron. That plastic-faced idiot seemed to decide that, if people expected politicians to lie, he didn't want to disappoint them. The rest of his party soon followed suit. Note that, for the purposes of this post, I am defining a lie as a statement that the person knows to be untrue. I still think Tony Blair genuinely believed that Iraq had WMDs. The fact that he didn't question the intelligence sufficiently (or, possibly, at all) makes him negligent, not a liar. The same applies to Thatcher's inaccurate statement on Hillsborough. She could have questioned the information she was given by senior police officers, but she didn't. |
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22nd January 2018, 03:42 PM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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...back on topic and there have been 12 resignations since the unanimous NEC vote of no confidence in Mr Bolton but he is refusing to resign himself.
Reminds me of Corbyn! |
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22nd January 2018, 04:27 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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as some twitter wag said:
Ironic that UKIP democratically elected Bolton and then decides it doesn't like the result. Presumably he's safe as long as only 48% of UKIPPERS resign...... Bloody UKIPREMOANERS whingeing about someone's girlfriend! |
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22nd January 2018, 04:32 PM
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Paul Hyett
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as some twitter wag said: Ironic that UKIP democratically elected Bolton and then decides it doesn't like the result. Presumably he's safe as long as only 48% of UKIPPERS resign...... Bloody UKIPREMOANERS whingeing about someone's girlfriend! Attractive on the outside - very ugly on the inside... |
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22nd January 2018, 05:08 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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