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post Thursday, 08:58 PM
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Damn those tax breaks for those earning over 55,000 are terrifying the establishment!!!
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 13 2019, 09:54 PM) *
Rumours that Whitehall civil servants are desperately trying to dig up something really big tonight to sink Boris as him becoming PM really scares the Establishment. Hope he doesn't drive through any tunnels in the near future.

There are plenty of things that are 'really big' already out in the open but nobody cares because Tory MPs and members, as well as the right wing in general, have no integrity.
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If Labour had a competent leader the Tories would be getting beaten to a pulp in the next General Election. I think Boris is such a divise character he's going to have a lot, he was quite well liked when he was Mayor of London but his credibility has massively downturned since then. I still say Gove is the only one who would be able to survive a General Election and navigate Brexit.
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 13 2019, 05:13 PM) *
No thanks. Am smiling not crying. smile.gif
Just ordered my Boris t-shirt and 2 mugs. Selling out fast.


Well that one went totally over your head laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Jun 14 2019, 08:28 AM) *
Well that one went totally over your head laugh.gif



No it didn't actually. wink.gif
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Down to 6 now with Hancock withdrawing from the competition.

The next round then has about 50 votes up for grabs (the total of people who voted for the 4 that've gone) and any people deciding to swap allegiances.





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They should all withdraw now and let PM Boris start his new job.
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 14 2019, 08:24 PM) *
They should all withdraw now and let PM Boris start his new job.

Are you sure this is wise for your own cause? Look at what happened in spring 2017 with May and her hilariously disastrous election campaign, after having been parachuted in by her party a year previously without a real campaign to put her under the spotlight.
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QUOTE(Harve @ Jun 14 2019, 09:24 PM) *
Are you sure this is wise for your own cause? Look at what happened in spring 2017 with May and her hilariously disastrous election campaign, after having been parachuted in by her party a year previously without a real campaign to put her under the spotlight.

I was going to make exactly the same point. A proper campaign should mean Johnson gets subjected to at least some scrutiny, however much he may try to wriggle out of as many encounters as he can.
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 14 2019, 08:24 PM) *
They should all withdraw now and let PM Boris start his new job.


Chris I know you want Brexit, but his only policy stated so far is a tax cut for 40% tax payers. Honestly baffles me why someone like yourself would want this.
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QUOTE(Rooney @ Jun 15 2019, 12:16 AM) *
Chris I know you want Brexit, but his only policy stated so far is a tax cut for 40% tax payers. Honestly baffles me why someone like yourself would want this.


which as The Last Leg pointed out - puts MP's into the tax-cut bracket. A bit like a bribe to vote for him then. I mean why 80k, why not with inflation and just say 55k? Hard to see it as anything else but a bribe.

More baffled why people who slag off Gove for doing coke snorting and think he should leave the race...but not Johnson for doing the same thing. It's almost like people will vote for anything if they have one single blinkered aim in mind, supporting corruption and lies even if it leaves them worse off. Which it will.

I have very intelligent friends who do the same, and try and defend the indefensible when I state facts, getting angry at me for stating facts, and refusing to listen because the slightest acknowledgement that people they wildly support aren't perfect in every way is an admission of weakness in their overall arguments. So they ignore reality rather than face up to it. A bit like Johnson, then.
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Thought from what I've seen Stewart was by far the best in the debate. Hunt and Gove way too staged with their answers - obviously got some great PR support. Couldn't make this up could you, he's probably the only one out of the candidates that could unite the middle voters while appealing to the core members. And of course with this fact he'll get kicked out of the race tomorrow.

They all made a bit of a fool out of Raab.
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Raab doesn't normally need any help in looking a fool.
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jun 16 2019, 08:26 PM) *
Raab doesn't normally need any help in looking a fool.


Interestingly they all said No Deal would be really shit for the country (although dressed up in different ways). Massive surprise to no-one there.
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Rory Stewart clearly knows he hasn't got any hope of winning. I suspect he is putting his marker down for when this far-right project goes pear-shaped. He will be able to point to his warnings and claim to have been right. Part of his strategy appears to be to make sure he is out of the Cabinet when the new PM takes over, thereby distancing himself even more from the shambles that is to come.
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Two of explicitly mentioned putting a time limit on the backstop and all but Stewart made references to renegotiating with the EU. I'm not sure if any showed that they've been thinking about what was compatible with the EU as I couldn't bear to watch all the way through, but they haven't learnt anything over the last three years, have they? The Tory party is too insular and blinkered to be in government.



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