AMC have just debuted their Comic Con teaser poster. So things are going to be out and about very soon!
http://static3.uk.businessinsider.com/image/5589d0ebdd089561018b460e-1200-924/the-walking-dead-season-6-keyart.jpg. TOO BIG FOR THE POST.
Where would you guys like to see this season go? How much will this season intertwine with the spin off show, none of it?
I'm so pumped. I know it's usually hit & miss with a lot of people, but it's hands down my favourite TV series ever. I can even find something I like about the slower paced episodes!
It has been fantastic since they left Woodbury, imo, and I've loved it ever since
It's not going to link with the spin off as the spin off is set right at the beginning of the apocalypse.
They can time jump if they want and I hope they do, eventually. I don't think I'd want to keep watching a spin-off that's so behind the original series (I keep forgetting how much time has passed since the apocalypse. A couple of years?).
Really starting to get quite excited about the next series of TWD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txylxp92Fxk
Michonne to continue to slay all the basics please.
Excited for this
Carol > Michonne. There, I said it.
Looking forward to this
I've only just caught up with season 5 and i'm looking forward to the spin off too, i wonder if they could do more spin offs though, like maybe what happened when the virus reaches europe
Carol >>>> Michonne has been true for like two seasons now.
Brilliant opener, again! So tense and seeing that amount of Zombies at one time was truly terrifying. I really thought we'd lose a couple more though, but I guess they're saving them all. So excited to see where they go with this season and to see whether they'd be able to stop the antagonists, whoever they will be!
Wow, amazing opener, I was really drawn into it, the black and white scenes really blended well, it was like telling a story before and after. I hear Negan will be making an appearance this season, will be introduced in the finale episode of season 6, a character taken from the comic book. (Google it)
7/10 It exceeded my expectations and I like that stuff actually happened in this episode. It did take me a good 20 minutes to realize there was a time difference between the color and black & white though. I would've liked more Carol, Michonne, and Glen but Rick was much better in this episode and I was happy with the overall lack of Carl
Is it true about the ratings? Jesus christ if it is.
Dunno. What are these supposed numbers? Been looking everywhere for them, but can't find anything yet!
I'm sticking with it as I want to see who sounded that horn at the end of the episode. On the whole though - that could have been done in less than 70 minutes - it was very, very slow and a little bit boring.
Yes I know I'm in the minority in thinking that - but for me it just gets a bit worse with every series.
Nowhere near as good as the Season 5 opener. I don't mind the 'slower' episodes, but wasn't a massive fan of the premiere. The black and white scenes didn't really cut it for me. There's so many characters about as well, not even sure what is the point of some of them, unless they're saving them for zombie bait.
I wasn't very fond of the b&w scenes either. They were hard to follow for the first 40 minutes.
CAROL!!! *.*
Carol kicks arse, that would have made a great first episode of the series. The Wolfs are going to be heavily featured in this series.
That episode was so much better than the opener last week. Melissa McBride is fantastic.
Carol continues to be flawless.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/10/19/theres-proof-the-walking-dead-showed-us-a-spy-last-night/
Is Enid a spy for the Wolves?
I think its pretty obvious she is. She basically said it to Carl when they were in the house.
I am so GLAD ayer watching episode 2 ! It was so intense, and it really gets me back into it
OMG
I don't want it to be true. He fell under the body!!!!!!!11!1 Please don't be true. The reaction suggests it is though
I don't think he's dead.
Have you guys seen it yet?
Yep, I've seen it but that scene was vague - the camera angle was interestingly placed. I think those guts were most likely the other guy's, the one who shot himself (I forget his name), and presumably he landed on top of Glenn after they fell. Glenn was seen to be distressed & crying, clearly, but his expression didn't seem to be "omg I'm being disembowelled ;0" (lol). No blood was coming from his mouth. Compare Glenn's face to the other guy who got killed after failing to climb up the chain-mail fence to safety. I think it's entirely possible that "other guy" was shielding Glenn from the walkers - that his guts/blood may be protecting Glenn, due to the walkers not being able to determine a living person when they smell like a walker. Also, with the camera panning away to see all the walkers, we essentially don't know 100% what Glenn's fate is.
Yes, it's quite farfetched that Glenn would survive completely unscathed from this, not be scratched or bitten at all, but then of course the entire premise of the show is unrealistic already, haha. To kill off a main character in the third episode would certainly be shocking and unpredictable, but I just get the sense that this is a "fake-out".
Also, The Talking Dead did not say that Glenn is definitely dead. Unlike previous departed characters, there was no section of "mourning" for Glenn (so I've read). AMC also issued a statement about Glenn which makes the whole thing unclear too:
“Dear fans of ‘The Walking Dead,’ this is a hard story to tell and when we were planning to tell it, we knew our friends at the ‘Talking Dead would be talking to you about it. And knowing you’d all be talking and feeling and commiserating, I knew we should say something about it, lest our silence say something we didn’t mean to say or not say. So I’ll say this: In some way, we will see Glenn, some version of Glenn, or parts of Glenn again, either in flashback or in the current story, to help complete the story.”
So... hmm. It'll be interesting to see what happens. Not 100% confirming Glenn's death now in the same manner of the other characters is very suspicious though.
Overall it was a very shocking and gripping episode, also some horrible deaths for two characters we didn't know beyond that episode. This season is amazing so far!
Wow, what an episode, better than the opening episode, the only thing that wasn't explained the horn bit at the end of the first episode where did that come from.
As for Glenn I think he is still alive, otherwise his demise his different from the comic version, he does come a cropper eventually at the hands of Negan in the comic version
Also, Rick - HOW HE GON' GET OUTTA THERE???
I thought it was a very gory episode not necessarily a good episode. Nowhere nearly as good as last week's. Maybe it'll alternate - one week bad, one week good.
Considering that was a very light episode that was really good, it just fills the blanks behind Morgan's character, good episode.
John Carroll Lynch was the sole redeeming part of that episode. I really still don't give a fig about Morgan. He's as boring as he ever was (and equally adept at getting good people killed as Rick is - no wonder they were once friends).
Why can't the good characters( Michonne, Carol, Darryl, Maggie, Sasha) get stand alone episodes? we know sweet f*** all about what Maggie is doing.
Yeah, I found that episode boring overall. By all means show his back story, but it really didn't require a whole hour.
This episode was just a basic filler episode, nothing more, nothing less.
This was a real love it or hate it episode.
For me I wasn't a fan. Some amazing acting, and it was good to fill in the backstory, but I don't get why it was feature length.
http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/305b575c52/the-12-most-ridiculous-things-from-last-night-s-the-walking-dead?_cc=S_d___&_ccid=5t7lzm.nx7m99
The 12 Most Ridiculous Things From Last Night's 'The Walking Dead'
Accurate / hilarious.
To put an episode like that directly after the Glenn episode was all kinds of wrong.
I think Glenn is dead and he should be dead but I don't know what writers decided in the end. He should at least get bitten somewhere. You can't get out of THAT completely unharmed even if someone else is on top of you.
He's out of the opening credits, so he's certainly gone.
Yeah. They kept people on the credits when they killed them off. So it kind of confirms that, if anything, Glenn is still alive imo.
Well it was good to see an episode that featured one of the better characters more (Aaron) but at the end of the day - another filler episode. Looks like next week's one may be good though - Abe, Sacha and Daryl.
It was a complete filler episode, though I did like some of the character development. I've not read the comics, but so obvious that the walkers are gonna get inside Alexandria!! (well we want that to happen!). Really wondering what the point is of some of the characters? Tara and Rosita just seem to be there and hold no purpose.. just given a few lines every now and then.
Where was Eugene and Carol? I thought they were in Alexandria?
The cast is far far too big now. You can go basically 3 episodes and not see someone these days. Tara is already showing her baby bump even though they are trying to hide it.
It was a very filler episode, but strong filler. It served a purpose (in that it was actually building characters and not just doing it for "art" or whatever context it's called) and I thought some of the scenes were really touching. Specifically with Maggie/Aaron. Nice to see Carl get featured a bit more too (even if it was a pathetic "slap fight"!) I don't get everyone's disdain towards his character. Can't wait to see some of the less important characters get attacked again though. We need a bit of a culling. Go back to basics. Rosita needs to stay though. <3 There's potential in her, she's kind of a more gutsy version of Beth!
The walkers that appeared out of the water in the sewer were very menacing! ;o
I really enjoyed all the Maggie/Aaron scenes. I didn't think the episode was all that bad overall. Next week's looks like it'll be a very exciting one.
I wonder whose blood was oozing down the wall at the end?
I agree with the above comments regarding cast size. By the time they circle back to any given character you've basically forgotten about them. The only characters I really care about at this point are Carol, Michonne, and Glenn. Rick's storyline has sort of reached its shelf life and Daryl has always been overrated. He hasn't done anything interesting in quite some time.
The trouble is not only is the cast too big certain characters have become un-killable now. Rick is never going to die unless he wants to leave so any storyline involving him is pretty much pointless now. Same with Daryl. The characters likely to be offed the next couple of seasons, Rosita, Tara, Eugene etc we barely see and thus just don't care enough about them.
They are having a really hard time introducing new characters that anyone cares about these days too, of all the people at the ASZ only Aaron I could give a shit about.
I agree with the comment above. Rick, Daryl, Carol and Michonne have a huge fanbase now and there would be an uprising if they were killed.
If they ever kill off Carol I will be headlining that internet riot tbh.
I think the biggest problem the show has long term is that the whole premise of the show leaves it with few paces to go in terms of plot. How long can you continue to have this set up - group wanders US looking for safety and fleeing zombies, group finds 'safe haven', safety is compromised by people/zombies, group on the move again, group finds safe haven, safety is compromised, repeat ad nauseum.
Yeah you can mix it up a little but it soon becomes all too familiar.
Fear The Walking Dead actually has more scope right now for interesting plots even if they haven't fully realised that.
My theory is that they will be looking to wind up TWD soon andunless they decide to leave it open ended the increasing appearance of zombies so heavily decayed that they're barely able to function will be their get out. Sooner or later the zombies have to rot away to nothing.
Last nights ep was terrible. I disagree with the person above, it is just laziness that they don't have the characters explore different things. No one has headed to a lake/sea for a boat, they haven't gone on a serious road trip to somewhere new to see if there is a big safe haven etc.
There is plenty of scope but they seem determined to keep to a certain area and certain storylines.
Not sure whether I should do spoiler tags or not. I'll just leave a gap, be spoiled at your own risk~
Most of us saw it coming - Glenn is alive.
The tower has fallen down & the walkers are IN... *.* I can't wait for the mid season finale! Any predictions re: who will die?
I just wanna know what that one dude with the gun was doing behind Carl.
Glenn and Enid will probably save the day just in time.
I can't see anyone major dying, maybe Tara cos she randomly got a few lines and is also massively pregnant!
Imagine the kid will try to shoot Carl and will either get killed, or Carl will kill him. Expect there to probably be a few minor characters killed, then Daryl and co will come and help to save the day!
Agreed. I'm thinking the other guy will draw on Carl and Enid will perhaps shoot him, before he shoots Carl? Aparently something happens in the comics which could play out. (I don't know what as I don't read the comics and try and avoid potential spoilers)
It would be hilarious if Glenn came back only to have Maggie die
I thought of that but surely they won't kill an unborn child (yet)?
I think it's a big possibility Maggie is going to die. It saves them from having to deal with another pregnancy storyline. She's just received the sign that shows Glenn is alive and now she dies. I also think Carl will get shot in the eye. I also think most of the Alexandrians will die.
a bit bloodthirsty aren't ya
I really like Tara. She's played by a more than capable actress, she just needs more screentime. I also really like that lesbian doctor(i can never remember her name)
The producers seem to think everyone adores Morgan but the actual fact is most people want him dead.
I was going to make some pithy comment about the actress playing Tara being a Scientologist but then it occurred to me that despite the scope for having massive fun with it, TWD has yet to do some sort of judgement day inspired religious cult.
It may be a tad predictable but the show is hardly Hell-bent on throwing the cast into new and ground breaking scenarios. After all, in the zombie apocalypse and especially in somewhere like Georgia, you'd expect a butt load of tooled up redneck Army Of God types.
I hope loads die, Rosita, Eugene, Sasha, the kid with the gun, fat useless storeroom lady, Deanna (god her face is the most scary thing about the show) and especially Judith. Someone holding the baby in a scene every ep gets boring.
Oh and Morgan, I hope that broom handle gets speared through him.
The show needs Morgan right now. His role is to be the yin to Rick's yang. His path is almost the exact opposite of Rick's. The contrast between Rick and Morgan is the only part of the show that has any subtext to it (with the occasional exception of some of Carol's moments).
Morgan is just Father Gabriel mark 2. At least with Gabriel he actually had a reason to be the pacifist because of his religion and being sheltered through the ZA, Morgan has supposedly done a 180 because of some fat man with a goat even after all he has been through. Not only that but he was close to insanity at one point when we saw him again in season 3 was it. His current state is as unbelievable as it is annoying.
The even more annoying thing is Father Gabriel is basically a mark 2 Tyreese who was also the pacifist of the group.
Nothing between Rick and Morgan thus far has been interesting.
Morgan 'did a 180' because a professional criminal psychologist got inside his head and slowly (over an unspecified period) changed his outlook. That is quite believable even if it wasn't done as well as it could be.
But Morgan's purpose on the show (no idea about the comics) is to act as foreshadowing of what might be. Morgan's more controlled and disciplined stance is exactly how Rick began the series whereas Morgan began the show lost for purpose, hope and even sanity. Rick's path is taking him to a place much like Morgan began in. With Morgan heading the opposite path it's the contrast between them that has been one of the shows themes this season.
Granted, they've kept it fairly background but those 2 characters are pretty much the only ones in the show with any kind of subtext going on. Daryl and Carol have in the past but that seems to have been sidelined. Carl too.
Before the season started Morgan had no one in the world who knew him except Rick, and Morgan saved Rick when he had no-one in the world. The two share a bond and Morgan finally tracking Rick down only to discover that he's no longer the man Morgan knew, and that they now have almost polar opposite views leaves many potentially great plots and subplots open to the writers.
That is why Morgan is important to the show even if he isn't that interesting to watch... yet
I still don't buy it. If criminal psychologist were able to do such a thing (and in a relatively short time) we wouldn't need prisons, we'd have courses with them and that bloody book he was going on about. Not to mention the world they are living in now is the most primal it can get, it is all about surviving any way possible.
It is just the same storyline we had with Tyreese, even down to Tyreese letting someone live who ended up being a threat to the group again. Copy and paste with Morgan and the Wolves he let go who then attacked Rick. Tyreese had endless speeches about right and wrong and was constantly opposing views of Rick.
Heck we had Dale for 2 seasons who played the pacifist role. The guy locked in the barn, deciding on his life was much more morally interesting than anything Rick and Morgan are giving us right now.
They have just ruined Morgan's character for me, made him seem completely out of touch with the world he is living in, when he is probably the one person who has lived and experienced it being as bad and as harsh as it could be and on his own.
I think you are reading far too much into what could potentially happen, that hasn't happened yet and hasn't already been explored on the show before and better done so far.
I'm not reading more into it than is already there. It's pretty obvious what I'm referring to is deliberate and whether you think it works for you or the show is irrelevant.
And Morgan was clearly never a psycho path but obviously mentally ill. That is hardly stretching it for you to believe people can recover from that, surely?
A quick Google search threw this up so it's clearly not just me
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Walking-Dead-Season-6-What-Ties-Rick-Morgan-Together-89097.html
in season 2 we had LOTS of talking, they demanded action. now there's plenty of action, they want talking scenes. so what's it gonna be?!
Eww, Season 2. I'd say only Episode 1 & Episode 13 are really worth watching. Thinking back to that season, all that stands out is them spending what felt like an eternity on that farm, endlessly & aimlessly searching for Sofia for half the season, and a lot of dumb moments & comments, usually coming from Lori - lol.
These videos focus on what went wrong with Season 2 (with a bit about S1 in the first video), and for the most part I agree with the points being raised.
The show has come a loooong way since then, thankfully.
I cant believe anyone can prefer the current walking dead to early seasons? They showed with the Glenn thing they don't have the balls to kill off a main character any more.
Rick is in an RV being surrounded by walkers, he ends up at the gates of the ASZ fine and dandy and they don't even feel the need to show how these days because Rick and co are invincible and people don't even question it now.
There's imperfections in the current season, for sure, but crucially it is more entertaining to watch on the whole.
Season 1 was generally great, particularly the first episode. Season 2 was like the TV equivalent of watching paint dry, for the most part. The writing quality slipped and the budget cuts were evident. They stretched out what was a relatively small part of the comic series and made it into a whole season. The walkers coming in Episode 13 was a relief. Thankfully the show picked up again with Season 3.
Have you guys seen season 2 since it aired? Because I rewatched them all before Season 5 and season 2 seemed a lot better than I had previously thought it to be. It was slow definitely, but it was still quite gripping, especially for character development at that point in the series, but I kind of let it slide due to it being ordered for more seasons, but having the same budget as season 1!
I have, as yet not re-watched any season but no 2 still stands to me as the shows highlight
Season 2 had some highs, but oh lord it was painfully boring at times. Season 4 for me is the show's highlight.
Disagree that the show does not have the balls to kill off main characters, when you follow source material you kinda have to stick loosely to it. I'm sure Daryl would have been killed off a while ago, but his character's popularity is crazy. I expect if any of the big characters were to die it would be Glenn/Maggie.
Indeed, at the end of the day the TV series has to do its own thing. It's too difficult to follow the source material that closely, because it would be constrictive & at times impossible. I think it's done well to generally keep the spirit of the comic series throughout so many seasons, even if there's different details.
(I don't think killing Shane off was "brave"; he dies very early on in the comics and I think it was evident throughout Season 2 that things were going in that direction... Shane slowly losing the plot / his affair with Lori. His role was Rick's original friend/work colleague and rival in terms of Lori, there's no way he was ever "equally important". They'd gone as far as possible with him before the bad guy switched to being The Governor).
I agree with Rooney that Season 4 has definitely been the best so far, followed by Seasons 1 and 5. 2 and 3 were mediocre. I blame Andrea's character development for ruining the Woodbury arc, I just couldn't stand her.
As for the mid-season finale, I dunno what to think. First of all, you'd expect more Glenn/Daryl/Abraham/Sasha, but NO...
Secondly, there definitely were signs of Carol going crazy in previous episodes (she kills with too much ease), but I didn't want them to go there and unfortunately I think they have. I don't like how it's playing out for her character.
Thirdly, I had issues with Tara and Rosita just letting the Wolf guy take Zoey-from-Nurse-Jackie (or whatever her name is in TWD). They'd have more chances of saving her by shooting him in the head.
Finally, they should have gotten out of the house in pairs or something, not all together. Are they dumb? What if Judith had started crying? That would've doomed them all. The little kid is probably dead, by the way. Good.
Hmm. I'm also in two minds about this episode. It definitely wasn't as "frantic" as I had thought it'd be, so I am slightly let down. However, it has set up for another potentially brilliant opener! In regards to Carol's character, what did you mean? Because I can't see this going any other way other than Morgan realising that you have to do, what you have to do and being more "in control" of things. Carol will still be taking no prisoners and killing far too quickly etc.. She'll blame Morgan for letting Wolf guy get away.
I'm disappointed at the lack of Glen during this episode. Which makes me think are they going to kill Maggie off in the season opener as a "shock" death? That lad deserves to die for being such a nuisance!
Any point the poster earlier in the thread was trying to make about Morgan and Rick having some sort of moral plotline over whether to kill or not to kill now are surely out the window after this episode. Morgan's actions once again put people in danger and potentially have got the doctor killed.
Deanna dying seemed a complete waste, she, Aaron and Rick's new girlfriend are the only ASZ people we have actually got to know (Ron too but he isn't going to last long is he let's be honest) and the impact of her death was nowhere near what it would have been had that been Tara or Sasha.
The pacing of the episode was pretty dire, slow as hell for 35 minutes then the silly Morgan/Carol plot (Rosita and Tara gave their 2 guns up to a guy with just a knife and then when the killer wolf gets the guns he doesn't kill them) and the main group getting out the house all shoved into the last 5 minutes.
The big mid season final with half the main cast missing (Daryl, Sasha, Abe, Glenn) and the only death being not one of the originals but one of the ASZ people. I feel like I'm repeating myself but too big a cast and not the balls to kill main characters any more.
taking pointers from carol there, aren't you?
it's not about killing off characters. death isn't always the best twist here. what's gonna happen when they run out of original characters to kill off? being disappointed that they didn't kill someone... sorry, ANYONE... off is quite ridiculous. people want drama but leaving things hanging like that is in fact a better way to end the midseason. they can do a juicy michonne killing in the season finale
A disappointing mid season finale, mainly because almost every single character seemed to make completely moronic decisions. Even the 'ending' sucked. It could have played out like Hitchcock did it with The Birds but it came across as lacking in any tension.
The only real redeeming feature was the set up for the next half with Negan, Daryl and co
I never said I thought Morgan's actions were the best choice, certainly not plot-wise but from a thematic point of view they are key. Although it would've been more effective if we had spent more time having the character properly fleshed out. I have previously said the show's formula is a tad repetitive and they really need to mix things up a bit, but the fact they keep returning to the same theme of to kill or not to kill with multiple characters shows just how central that question is to the show.
I merely pointed out why Morgan is important to the show right now.
Do we want Rick back in charge of everything AGAIN?
Maybe, maybe not. Depends what they do with it.
Walking Dead the TV show is basically Rick's story
Rick's my favourite character, so I want to see him remain the "leader". I know so many people want him to die, but when Rick dies, the show dies imo. No matter how much I like Daryl/Michonne/the others. He's seen it all. He's trusted people before and it's backfired on him. He knows exactly what he's doing, whereas Carol doesn't seem to be in control too much and just acts without ever thinking about it.
I'm really intrigued to see if they can actually manage to get Alexandria up and going again. It'd be a nice change for the show and to see them actually "make a home" out of somewhere. The closest they ever got was the prison, but after everything that went off, it'd be interesting to see how the "new Rick" would deal with that sort of situation now and whether he'll be more prepared for it or not.
I really want them to move on and explore somewhere new. I feel like the scenery of forest and trees has left me cold to it all now. I kind of liked the change of scenery in the ep where Carol and Daryl were in the city together and although I didn't like the hospital story line with Beth again the change of location was refreshing.
I think the whole "put zombie guts all over yourself to mask that you're one of the living" thing is a bit of a weak spot in the show. It's like, if that's all it takes to fool the walkers, to the extent that you can walk amongst a swarm of them, then why not walk around like that more often? (particularly when they were out in the wilderness and vulnerable). That lowers the suspense levels for me, somewhat.
The Carol/Morgan situation was a bit frustrating. Although it certainly furthers my view that Morgan is a huuuuge liability to the group, Carol's own behaviour was very rash and lead to things spiralling out of control. Whyyyy did Denise help the Wolf? ;( Also you'd think in such close proximity that Rosita/Tara could surely have shot the Wolf in the head before he could even react?
The episode was weird in that it didn't quite feel like a mid-season finale to me. Maybe it was the lack of a "shock" (Deanna getting bitten didn't quite cut it, for me, although I was actually fond of her character). Anyway, bring on the second half! Will be interesting to see where things go from here.
I do agree Sammy, the amount of time they've spent in the forests has made that surrounding seem quite boring. City scenes... *.*
Rick has been responsible for more deaths of innocents than Cecil B De Mille killed extras!
Whilst I agree that the city scenes do add some welcome change of scenery, I can appreciate that from a logistical and financial point of view they give the show's production team a big headache. They're much more expensive to organise and a nightmare to set up.
Thankfully, whilst I don't expect Negan to live in a sprawling metropolis, the biker gang that held up Daryl's truck will throw up a bunch of new characters and environments just at the moment that we look set for a bloodbath at Alexandria.
JD Morgan will also be fabulous in the 2nd half of the season
Is there really any financial argument or lack there of to be made for the walking dead? It has the biggest demo ratings (that is the one the advertising revenue is determined on) of any show in America. It out rates everything despite being on cable. The budget could be as big as they want it to be. Not to mention the The talking dead show where they basically talk about the ep that just aired gets great ratings too and cost absolutely nothing to make.
Of course there is. The bottom line with both film and TV is almost always money. Show's that aren't profitable rarely last long.
Producers will allocate a budget per season. I don't know the figures for TWD or any current major shows but for example a renewal of Star Trek:Enterprise campaign by fans about 10 years ago suggested $1m per episode.
Factor in desired profits, promotional costs, wages, income from network advertising and you are left with a production budget for the season. One of the problems Star Trek had was it was simply too expensive to make compared to its income and that's despite it being the most successful TV franchise in history.
It wasn't simply because the show's quality was poor (the final season of Enterprise was arguably the best Trek season in years) but because it couldn't justify its running costs.
Similarly, one of the reasons Game Of Thrones is only 10 episodes long each year is down to production costs and logistics. Any show with sizeable cast has an awful lot of staff on the books - make up, stunt doubles, catering etc. They all cost money, as does paying for location shooting permits, set builds, props etc. And the cost of paying a city government/council to shut down sizeable areas of their city for prolonged periods are incredibly prohibitive. That's why it's usually a quick 2 hour set up and shoot at 4am in the morning for a 10 minute scene. If you tried to set a whole season in the city it would require a free standing set a la Walford or Weatherfield but neither of those sets allow for creating the feel of a large city area More a street or square.
Just looked up TWD budgets.
Season 1 (the one with most city scenes came in a $3.4m per episode for 7 episodes.
Season 2 the budget was cut (despite an increased cast size) to $2.75m for 13 episodes.
It currently stands at $2.5 -$3m per episode despite a sizeable hike in cast salaries.
Just caught up on binge watch (started early November) and honestly with a couple of weak episodes here and there I still love it, can't wait for the 2nd half of the season.
I wonder when Negan's actually going to appear? I assume it won't be until the season finale
As far as I'm aware Negan doesn't appear until the penultimate/finale episode.
Sounds like Daryl & co will have their story dragged out a bit then
I'm re-watching season 1, god it was so good what happened?
I guess losing Shane was a big turning point especially for Rick's character. They basically combine Rick and Shane's character together once Shane dies with Rick flip flopping between do good and hard ass, it was much more interesting when they had those 2 characters batting heads over ideas and morals on how to survive the ZA. They have tried to replicate that ever since with Hershel, Tyreese and now Morgan playing moral guy to the now hard line Rick but it has never been the same.
Glenn was such a great character in season 1 too, resourceful and clever, the Maggie loving simpering mess he is now is such a shame.
Around 24 hours until The Walking Dead is back. *.* I'm ready!
Here's a preview - the first 4 minutes of the mid-season premiere episode:
so excited for this I can't
The first half of the season was so good - I can't wait for this to return!
I thought the first half of the season was a total drag besides the Glenn thing. I really hope they go in a different direction soon. A change of scenery would be nice (like somewhere other than Georgia).
Oh my God. What an episode! 😱 Shocking, intense and epic. I feel emotionally drained!
I knew roughly what was going to go down because I'd read the comic spoilers, but still, watching it all play out was truly heart in the mouth stuff.
I'd say it was easily one of the best episodes of the entire run of episodes to date, and certainly the best of Season 6.
Couldn't agree more Jay. I don't think I've ever been that into an episode of TWD. So many twists and turns and subplots but it worked perfectly. It took Carl getting shot for me to realize that I don't actually want him to be killed off!
Not sure about this episode. Some good moments but sloppy writing, normally smart characters doing really stupid things simply to drive the plot where the writers wanted it to go.
Worse still, it was predictable and, in the end, played it safe with a resolution that began as a hack and slash video game before climaxing with a near deus ex machina.
Best scene of the whole episode was easily the very last, with Rick finally realising that there needs to be more than simple brutality in the world. He's come full circle, just in time for Negan to screw it all up.
I really enjoyed this episode. It was entertaining from start to finish and I thought the plot was great! So many twists and turns throughout the episode. It was great.
30 minutes in and I'm glued, did not see that coming sodding ads...
Wow... amazing episode, best episode of the season, loving the twists and turns and I know where its heading.
f***ing CACKLING at the brutality of it all. poor ricks girlfriend.
The show for me has got so sloppy with certain things. It went from day to night in about 15 seconds, unless Rick and co walked around the ASZ for an hour off camera. Daryl kills a guy that no one sees or hears (ok I could maybe believe that) but the body is lay in direct view of the bikers. Glenn has yet another near death escape, it is getting a bit ridiculous now and each time that bit more implausible.
There was a big build up to the Wolves guys and how last year ended on a cliff hanger with him taking the doctor hostage, for a pretty lame outcome of him being shot by Carol.
I'm actually glad Jessie and her family died, what a drag they have been since being introduced.
The show needs a major death to happen, the main 6 or 7 characters are basically immune from death at this point and the whole premise of the show was no one is safe.
The father Gabriel thing was too much from me, he went from a coward who at one point was grassing on the gang to suddely risking his life to fight along side them. If they wanted to redeem him, him keeping Judith safe would have surely been enough.
Rosita is so wooden I'm rooting for her death so much right now.
I mean don't get me wrong it was fast paced and intense but I feel like the actual quality to which they try to achieve this has slipped.
The day to night thing was rather odd, indeed. I'm not sure if there's been a proper explanation offered for that. Like, how far did they need to walk! They were walking at a decent pace, wherever it was they were headed couldn't have taken that long to get to (I can't actually recall what their plan was, where were they walking to? Lol).
Some things that were mentioned in critical articles about the episode:
Sam was calling for his mom in the cliff hanger at the end of the midseason finale (suggesting he was about to freak out and draw major attention to them all, almost immediately after exiting the house), but then when it got back to them in the midseason premiere he was (relatively) fine, and silent... and then was for a while, until he suddenly freaked out again. This wasn't very smoothly done.
Other points focus on unrealistic reactions that the characters have, mainly about them standing still... such as Jessie staying rooted to the spot to witness Sam being overwhelmed by the walkers - some articles suggest that as a mother she'd have instinctively leapt in to try and drag them off him (even though this would certainly have resulted in her own death). Another point raised is that any of the characters on that walk could have quite easily dragged Sam along as soon as he stopped, particularly as they were holding hands... or even picked him up as a quick last resort. His death was easily preventable, if the characters were acting at all rationally, so the writers could have thought harder about how his death could have been convincing and unavoidable.
Like Sammy says, Daryl managing to kill that guy (and get stabbed) silently & unseen was highly improbable, including actually getting out the rocket launcher (even it being stored at the back of the truck is a bit farfetched, apparently). Overlooking those details, it was still a satisfying scene.
People are a bit "hmm" that Rick would have trusted Gabriel with his daughter, based on his past form. A more realistic way to get Judith to safety in the church would have been for them all to walk there together, have a breather and then venture out again (realistically they'd probably have left Jessie, Sam & Ron there too).
Oh and I agree about Glenn. He's smarter than that, he allowed himself to be backed up against the fence. Also arguably he didn't even need to create a diversion at all.
Although be quite honest, none of these issues affected my enjoyment of the episode at all, even though I agree that there was a fair bit of sloppy writing... the action, intensity and overall drama was really enjoyable.
Agreed with Jay, really. Still can't get over how amazing it was despite those criticisms and flaws. The whole walker ambush on Sam and co could have all been down to freezing in that moment in shock or whatever. So much went off and it was fantastic.
It always to me comes down to pacing of things with the walking dead. They had a 90 minute episode with Morgan in some cabin with a goat (I never actually finished that episode) but the first ep of the 2nd half of the season with a whole family killed, the resolving of the Wolves storyline, the resolution of the doctor being taken hostage, seemingly the end of the wall fallen plot (I assume it will be repaired now) and Daryl and co getting out of a dodgy situation in 60 minutes.
It is going to leave only the Negan plot really left for this half of the season and from all accounts he doesn't show up until the end of the season.
Oh and we have the really weird Carol/Morgan thing, which just gets more strange and hard to watch as it goes on.
Watch there be 4 filler episodes now.
Apparently there's something major happening in this Sunday's ep. TVLine is urging people to watch it live or completely avoid the internet until they do. So, I guess someone dies. Glenn or Maggie? Better not be Carol or Michonne.
Please let it finally be Glenn and Rosita and Eugene.
I feel like they are purposely ruining Glenn's character so that they can kill him off with less backlash. Sadly I do think he will go soon which is a shame because he is still one of my favorites. Michonne has really faded into the background as well so I wouldn't be surprised if they offed her as ridiculous as that would be. I think Rick, Carol, Daryl, and Carl are immune, at least for now. All the others are basically expendable at this point, especially Morgan, Gabriel, and Eugene. I actually think they could do a lot with Rosita's character but I don't see it happening.
It would break my heart if Michonne was killed off! I'm hoping her character returns to the forefront soon.
I agree with Zach in that Rosita's character could offer a hell of a lot more if they utilised her more. However, Eugene dying would be a mistake. He has quite a "cult" following, although I don't really know where his character can go from here now that he's been exposed. But, I have a feeling if anyone is to die, it'll be Maggie. She's cut her hair in reality and apparently "there's a reason in the show" as to why she's been able to do it. I can't see it just being because she cuts her hair in the show...
But we shall see. I really don't think Michonne is going either.
Michonne is the best character in it. They cannot kill her.
Seriously Rosita is the worst actress the show has, she walks and holds herself like a model at a comic convention being paid to dress up. Her speech in the last episode was beyond bad and she just adds nothing to the show at all.
It is a shame Tara is pregnant as she was bringing a lighter tone to things and was actually far more interesting and the possible relationship with the doctor could have been fun to explore.
So... RIP Truck.
I didn't expect it to go there but I'm glad it did. I've been expecting this for so long that I believed they'd never actually do it.
Blarghhhh that felt so unnatural, wont spoil for those who haven't seen it yet.
So they went for a lightly comic episode, which I can only assume was set 'some time' after last weeks, as nobody (least of all Rick) gave a damn about everyone who died.
Didn't really work on any level until the very last line of dialogue.
It also had another plot line where Spencer and Carl didn't speak or explain themselves like a normal human being would all for a 15 second pay off which wasn't a pay off.
2 months had passed, apparently. In terms of tone, it's an episode that was needed, but as an episode it was all a bit "ehhhh". Season 2 filler-esque. I love how they seem to have gone back to "normality" (well, as normal as can be in this world) because we just know there is a threat right around the corner, ready to tear shit up!
The only thing I can say about that episode is that next week's episode looks a bit better!
I'm just happy Michonne is getting something to do.
Brilliant episode
My latest thing with The Walking Dead is seeing how many stupid things the characters decide to do. Eugene was the only one in the episode not to do something dumb. Oh, and Judith.
Meh, that was such a boringly average episode.
I thought the time frame was more like two weeks rather than two months! But it's good. I'm not sure I'm a fan of that romance developing. But I guess when it's a zombie apocalypse shit like that would happen.
I call that a bridge episode, I mean I expect in the next episode we'll learn more about Jesus. Then the episode after we'll meet his people.
Let's not also forget Deanna should have been ripped limb from limb and eaten given the situation she was in, yet there she is outside the walls not a scratch on her.
Don't forget Michonne being on guard duty and just abandoning her post without so much as a word to anyone.
The convenient flat tyre was also a terribly contrived way of allowing the 2 to catch up to Jesus as they'd inexplicably left a perfectly good product placement car behind.
Really enjoyed tonight's episode. Understated and simply one big set up for what's to come.
Everyone is so calm, happy and with an air of over-confidence right now that you just know it's gonna hit the fan big time soon. And it's gonna hit hard!
That Abe and Sasha storyline can do one, cus there is nothing between them.
Great episode, and I know where its heading, read a few of the comics of what is coming up next, and we could be losing one key character by the end of the series, unless they hold it back for the next series.
I really enjoyed tonight's episode too! Things are really shifting into gear. I'm so excited for what's to come and as someone who is completely oblivious to the comics and doesn't know what's about to happen/unaware of how awesome Negan is (says everyone else who has read them!) I can't WAIT!
Really loved Maggie this episode!
Agreed, much preferred that episode to last weeks. Was paced really well, though I do completely agree about the Rosita/Abraham/Sasha thing, it's hard to care really.
Really warmed to Jesus as a character. He reminds me a bit of what Glenn should have been.
Best episode in a long time
It was very thrilling! *.* Also it reinforces how other humans in this world are so much more of a threat than the walkers are. It seems there's some genuinely scary episodes forthcoming (can't wait!).
This episode was setting up the means for Negan to retaliate. And retaliate he will...I'm very nervous for a few of our beloved.
Those polaroids which Glen was looking at...were those pics of people who Negan f***ed up with his baseball bat? If so that's f'n terrifying
Carol must live.SHE MUST
It was an excellent episode but not another abduction storyline please resolve it soon...
Another great episode. GIRL POWER *.*
Maggie FINALLY f***ing shit up and showing us why she would be missed if she was killed off. I absolutely LOVE what they're doing with Carol right now and I loved the contrast between 'Chelle & Maggie/Paula & Carol. The tension is at an all time high at the moment, in this show. I am legit scared for our main lot right now
Can we NOT with this whole "we're all Neagan" bull crap please? It reminds me of 'The Following' too much and I lost interest in that coz things weren't getting resolved and just kept going around in circles.
Yes, another strong episode and an absolute joy to see Alicia Witt turn up.
And when Daryl at the end asks 'Are you good?', only for Carol to say 'No' is possibly the single most understated and yet telling line the show has ever done.
Brilliant writing
Agreed! Carol and Daryl are the two most fleshed out and consistent characters on the show.
As much as I loved the latest episode, I want more Michonne
Jesus Christ the stress of that episode had my hair falling out. I wish they didn't kill Paula though, she could have been a very interesting character.
Best episode by far so far this series. I really would have liked to see Alicia Witt around for a bit longer but I suppose you can't have everything.
Guys, here are some of the cast members thoughts on the season 6 finale (no spoilers)
Melissa McBride (Carol) - "It was so very dark. I couldn't say anything after I had finished reading it. I felt like I had dropped into a blackhole."
Ross Marquand (Aaron) - "I think it's probably the most wrought, like emotionally wrought, and dark episode I've ever read, regardless of this show or not. I've never seen or read an episode that is so dark and so compelling in my life and that's the God's honest truth. I told Andy, I don't normally get so affected by scripts that I have to put them down, but I had to stop reading this at three different times. I couldn't read it, it was messing me up. It was tough to read. It's phenomenal writing but it's just so emotionally dark and twisted that we had to put it down several times."
Lennie James (Morgan) - "Jaws are gonna drop and people are gonna lose their ****, if you don't mind me saying. It's gonna blow some people's minds and break some people's hearts."
Greg Nicotero (exec producer) - "I can tell you that the last episode, the pace and the build of what happens from the teaser to the end, it's a pretty precipitous drop to a very dark place."
Andrew Lincoln (Rick) - "I felt sick to my stomach when I read the script. It was the first day in the whole six years of working on The Walking Dead that I was late for work because I woke up in the middle of the night and I couldn’t get back to sleep. I was so angry and frustrated and I felt sick. And that was just after reading it.”
Lauren Cohan (Maggie) - "Hearing the word ‘finale’ gives me a physical reaction because it’s the hardest day on set that I’ve ever had in my life. I never even imagined that as an actor you could have that experience. It’s one of the most raw experiences that I think any of us have ever had. Andy talks about being late to work; I didn’t want to go to work that day. It took a really, really long time for everybody to feel okay again after the finale, let’s put it that way.”
.............I mean, holy shit. I'm genuinely terrified over what's going to happen. Wow.
This half of the season has been incredible so far. Like Jase, I'm almost feeling scared about the prospect of the finale, if the actors/actresses felt that moved by the script alone! Praying that I don't lose one of my favourites. Roll on April 3rd!
everyone says it al the time but Carol really is the best acted character on TV right now. Give Melissa all the awards.
Those comments about the finale
The show really is on top of its game with the current season!
One theory floating around regarding the finale is that Rick is forced to kill Glenn. He is put into a situation by Negan where he is forced to kill the dad-to-be or see his entire group slaughtered, only to ultimately do so and have Maggie killed, as well.
can you just imagine? horrific doesn't even cover it
Just read that Carol was meant to be killed off along with Lori in season 3. I don't think i would still be watching if that was the case.
That's when Carol wasn't really a badass though, so I don't think she'd have been missed at that point. Things have changed SO much now though, to the point I believe there will be an actual riot or something if something was to happen nowadays!
Well it's fairly obvious that we'll be losing at least one main character, possibly one of the originals. I would hate to see Glenn go. I think Carol might be the only one who is safe.
Glenn and Morgan can f*** off.
And bring in Andrea's identical twin sister who behaves exactly like her.
Finally caught up with all of this, after starting with Season 1 in December. What an incredible tense show, on the whole. It helps that I find it so easy to care about characters that I don't want to see anyone (who is not an asshole) die and so when you have death around every corner it's gripping viewing. And while there were dips it's currently in a massive high and has been ever since getting a more permanent base of operations in Alexandria really, several of the show's best episodes have been this season. Especially 'No Way Out' and 'Not Tomorrow Yet'. And the last episode too, fantastic acting from Melissa McBride throughout that.
Which makes me very nervous for the finale, but I'm looking forward to seeing Negan now, he sounds like he'll be an excellent villain.
Who was your fave character?
Started off being Glenn actually but quickly moved on to Michonne when she appeared and Carol when she started getting better. And Eugene is incredibly watchable too whenever he's got something to do. I wouldn't like to pick just one with so many good ones.
Michonne is one of the best characters on TV.
Also, please don't say you turned on Andrea in season 3.
I always liked Andrea. I thought she made some really stupid choices at the end but I didn't want them to kill her off. They easily could've turned things around with her character.
They could have just made her see the error of her ways. The fac that she's still around and such a huge part of the comics makes it even more depressing .
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/the-walking-dead/news/a787501/ready-for-negan-the-walking-dead-extends-the-sixth-season-finale-to-90-minutes/
It looks like the finale is going to be 90 minutes and is called "Last Day on Earth"
Spoliers ahead
Don't read on if you don't want to see details and mild speculation.
What a very strange episode. By turns it was stupid, boring, funny and shocking.
Stupidity once again dominates pretty much everything in the episode - and Carol continues to make major decisions with very little screen time spent trying to explain the build up even though the character arc actually make sense.
Not convinced it was Eugene's fault. He may well have led them towards Alexandria or they may have come across them by chance but it's not made clear this week.
On the plus side there was finally a scene where it was or had been raining. I swear Georgia has had a pretty severe drought for years now.
And Carol get's the killer line again with 'they didn't do anything'. So many different layers of meaning in that once again.
It's also looking more and more like Carol will meet Lucille. Negan will catch her and bring her out as the 'example'
I am NOT ok with that death. So much wasted potential of a great actress.
basically if your a lesbian on american tv your gonna get shot in the face.
Personally I'm glad she's gone. I found her to be incredibly annoying and she brought nothing of note to the show
I started to warm to her in that episode, but when she had the full face shot and started ranting, I did think something bad was about to happen!
The problem the show has, is a lot of the secondary characters are just totally boring. Infact, most of the Alexandrians are apart from Aaron.
I wonder if Carol does what she does in the comic next week.
We haven't seen Negan yet though, he'll be sure to change all of that. I got the impression that the guy that stole Daryl's crossbow was originally running away/ leaving the saviours so interesting to see he was reconciled. A shame about Denise, she was just starting to get interesting and starting to get the hang of surviving as well, they also need doctors.
Can't believe Carol's left again too, she'd better be back before long. Only positive from this episode is Daryl has his crossbow again.
Like last time, they've probably put Carol out of the way for when it all goes wrong so she can come back and save the day!
Have people heard the big rumour going round about the finale?
We will have to wait until October to see who dies.
Sasha has to go.
Why would they do that? TWD is not one of those shows who need a cliffhanger to keep or draw audience. Imagine if they do that and in October we find out nothing happens? They've already fooled us once with Glenn. I'd get really mad.
As long as the holy trinity of Michonne Carol and Maggies are fine.
im rewatching Season 2 and i forgot how wooden Sarah Wayne Callies was. It also doesn't help that Lori was such a hateful character.
Just caught up on last weeks and this weeks (the ep that airs tonight in the UK) so spoilers might be ahead.
Why bother letting Denise and Eugene go on runs, it is just an added risk that whoever is with them should factor in.
Denise dying was a bit pointless when she has plenty of scope for development, where as say Sasha has been in it for years and is still as pointless as ever.
The ep airing tonight annoyed me as the saviours seemingly get the jump on 'our' guys again both Carol and Michonne and Glenn and just appear from behind trees or anywhere, yet are pretty much useless after that. Carol took down 4 when they had her basically there for the killing.
Why are they still adding in odd scenes here and there with that annoying young girl Enid, her story arc so far has been utterly useless what a waste of screen time.
How many Saviours are there? They must have killed 50 by now at least, the roadside gang they blew up, the raid on the base camp thing, the 6 Carol and Maggie took out, the at least 5 or 6 Rosita, Daryl and Abe killed and now another 4 Carol kills. Do they just have an endless supply of guys. Plus the main guy Carol takes out was kinda hot, why cant our cast be hot (Spencer is but is so in the background I forget he exists).
There is also no way Daryl is dead, it will be some odd angle where he actually shot a walker or Daryl's shoulder.
Spoilers
So TWD finally got around to Morgan and Rick airing their differences with each other and it was easily the highlight of an otherwise dull episode that yet again showcased stupidity from the main characters. The pre-finale teaser's line 'the price will be paid' is suitably ominous, but the main question remains as to who will pay for Rick's hubris. Next week's turning point moment (ouch) will have to change everything as it is becoming harder and harder to root for our 'heroes' when they are this cold, brutal, arrogant and dumb. Rick is not far from the same character as The Governer at the moment (if you exclude the dead kids and zombie heads) even if they've avoided directly referencing it.
Beyond that there was some nice biblical symbolism with the apple (will Adam & Eve be thrown out of paradise?) and possibly even Maggie's haircut (Samson?)
I thought the speech Morgan gave to Rick had more holes than Swiss cheese. His whole angle can be dispelled with 'if you had killed the wolf the chain of events wouldn't have happened that Denise's life would be in trouble in the first place'.
Daryl is suffering the consequences of not killing the guy who ended up stealing his bike, which has now included getting Denise killed and Carol knows you cant love and live in a community like they are without killing which has been proved time and again.
The whole episode felt like making conflict and splitting the group up and getting certain people away from the ASZ for the final, when in reality they should and would all be there preparing for an upcoming attack and making the place as safe and secure and everyone training to be at their best.
can Morgan just die yet???
That ending, did they shoot the cameraman
can Andrea just come back to life please. So not here for that f***ing flop Sasha to take over her sniper duties.
Rick taking a bite of Michonne's shag apple was amazing.
How f***ing good is Carol though.
I agree about the Saviors. I don't know how they keep conveniently trapping members of the group. How many times has it happened now? The first time with Daryl, the second time with Daryl/Rosita/Denise, this episode with Carol, and now a third time with Daryl/Rosita right after nabbing Glenn and Michonne. Am I missing anything? It's just starting to feel a little redundant.
HOWEVER, that Carol moment was the highlight of the episode. She is an absolute boss with her machine gun arm
So...remember the leaked Negan footage from last year?
http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/11/the_walking_dead_season_6_wrap.html
An article from when it happened ^
"The scene was shot from the point of view of the person being killed and appears to be authentic."
^ This goes along side the leaked finale details from last week. What a f'n mess.
I don't think they would do that to us. I think that would really piss a lot of viewers off. Anyway, very anxious for tonight!
"It's probably the best final moment of a season we've ever had," executive producer Robert Kirkman told The Hollywood Reporter. "It's entirely possible there's going to be a painful summer for 'Walking Dead' fans."
There's your confirmation about the cliffhanger ending
That was ridiculous. I didn't want Rooney to be right. So disappointed that they would end the season that way.
SEMI SPOILERS (I'm not sure it classes as a spoiler, but Zach seems to have spoiled it so I will warn incase haha)
Why? It makes sense as to why they ended it that way? Surely? It gets people talking and anticipating on who it is. I don't think it takes away any of the pain or shock factor. I hate that they've done this, but I can definitely see why they have and in the way they did! I loved it personally (even if I am frustrated at it all! Lol).
This is the first time a TV show or film has made me heave/almost made me physically sick. When it cut off at the end, I had to pull up my bin next to me as I don't think I had time to run to the toilet.
That's the most suspenseful I've felt through this show, so far!
EDIT: Does anyone here watch 'Talking Dead'? (It's amazing, btw) Scott Gimple said that the reason for that ending was something about it being the end of a chapter, because whoever it is that's died, it will have a knock on effect sort of and will become the start of the new chapter
I can't help but feel disappointed. That was a very cheap cliff hanger. ):
That was easily one of the most dire & horrific situations the characters have found themselves in to date, so I wish the scene had gone all the way and revealed the identity of who was on the receiving end of Lucille. I think making it a mystery ultimately lessened Negan's impact.... viewers should have been left reeling, rather than scratching their heads.
I just want to feel some kind of emotion for these characters again. The ambiguity has left me feeling annoyed, and kind of empty... meh.
I disagree and I'm a fan of these cheap cliffhangers and I don't think it lessens thr impact of him at all tbh.
Completely agree with Jay! The tension was unbelievable leading up to the cliffhanger, but the lack of identity reduces the impact that someone just died. The focus has turned to who died rather than the brutal nature in which it happened, which kinda spoilt the moment.
Very disappointing ending, when it could have been one of the show's most shocking moments.
I guess I was right about them having Carol leave to keep her away from the danger again like how she missed the prison showdown. I really enjoyed her and Morgan's scenes and I'm intrigued to see who those two guys are.
Well, that was bullshit.
A great episode all round right up to the last few seconds.
Completely agree with Jay and Burbe's points. What should and could have been a stunningly brutal ending turned in to a 'is that it?' moment.
TWD finally gave us a true horror show and when it came to the crunch they flinched first.
On the plus side Jeffrey Dean Morgan was every bit as sadistically funny and charming as I had hoped. I'll be rooting for him over Rick's dour miserableness next season.
That season finale was epic! I agree with Jonjo, I really liked the ending, it's got me soooo geared up for S7, shame about the 6 month wait...
The last 10 minutes was amazing, seriously edge of the your seat stuff, but it was a cheap cliffhanger. I'm sorry but it makes no sense at all. How can they do any Season 7 promotion material when every main character bat a select few were out there. It cheapens the impact of a great death. Knew it was going to happen, but it just really pisses on the viewers, cos how they expect to keep who dies a secret for 6 months is ridiculous.
It should have been The Walking Dead's Red Wedding moment, but it wasn't!
I did not marathon through six series of this for the last few months for it to end with that I pretty much echo everyone else's thoughts - it ruined a perfectly suspenseful moment and a great episode making up for the relative filler of the last two. Tis a pity as the season as a whole was really strong up until now and these constant stupid decisions and unfathomable actions in the last few episodes have spoiled it somewhat. I honestly thought that served the group right for being so rash and taking on the saviours in the first place.
In terms of the cliffhanger, it can't be Rick or Carl as Negan said 'if anyone moves, take the boy's other eye out' so he can't be beating him up (and by this, Rick too as that would be a suitable threat to Rick and it's unlikely he'd kill him that soon after 'recruiting' him). Glenn seems the logical choice because of the comics, though it did look like he picked someone in the centre while Glenn was at the end (and that wouldn't be that much of a shock given that's what happens in the comics). Maggie, Daryl and Michonne would probably just about maintain the shock, but any of the others are really not worth the six month wait (just imagine if it's bloody AARON ). So there's like a...60% chance this is gonna be disappointing lol.
Still, a decent finale to a decent season, just hope S7 has less of the show trolling us~
The showrunner did say the way it was shot left some clues as to who it is. Watch it be f***ing Sasha or Aaron.
It can't be Sasha or Aaron, they have more to give also praying for Rosita, Daryl, and Michonne's safety
I do think it's time they kill off an original but of the four, Glenn is the last one I want to see go.
I'll say this for it, I was gripped to the screen from the moment Negan appeared until about the last 5 seconds. He was every bit as menacing as hoped for.
This is a cliffhanger I could have seen working, perhaps, if it was pre-Internet. Very little way for the secret to leak even over 6 months then. As it is, they are going to have a hard time on their hands. And it will eventually lessen the impact of the death of one of their major characters. I'm just imagining now how much better it would have looked if we'd seen who it was. On that, yeah, poor decision, it won't hold up in the long run and even now it's a bit meh.
Out of the candidates I'm 'hoping' for Glenn or Daryl, it would be a shame to lose an original but both have had their moments and Daryl especially feels rather lost as a character lately. Killing Maggie or Michonne would be a huge shock and quite impactful though. Would be very saddened if it were Abraham or Eugene but I feel they're unlikely. The rest... I would be very surprised if it were them.
I could see the perks of Daryl or Glen being killed off, on the one hand Daryl is such a fan favourite that it would have the desired effect of making people hate Negan like mega. Plus he's one of the more isolated or independent, i can't think of a word members of the group, so his death though would devastate everyone else wouldn't have a domino effect on another character per-say. Glen on the other hand, obviously directly linked to Maggie, so if they wanted her character to take a new path, or change her up a bit then that could be interesting. And also the same point about fan favourite. I'd like both to survive and it be Eugene or Abraham personally, but between Daryl and Glen, I would keep Daryl
Looking at the episode as a whole it would seem both Eugene and Abraham are the most telegraphed
http://carl-greyems.tumblr.com/private/142035415291/tumblr_o4xdeaiypi1v88mdc
This slowed down audio suggests that it's Glen. Be warned - it's nightmare-inducing
Please not Michonne. I really couldn't cope and im still not over Andrea
That slowed down version is horrifying! Omg.
Oh and btw, the more I thought about it, the more I actually agree with you lot! Although the whole episode itself was fantastic. Just a shame about the reveal being non-existent!
If I had to rank them in order, starting with who I'd most like to see go, it would be:
1. Eugene
2. Sasha
3. Abraham
4. Maggie
5. Daryl
6. Carl
7. Aaron
8. Rosita
9. Rick
10. Michonne
11. Glenn
Sasha is so f***ing pointless its not even funny. She's been in it for nearly 4 years and we know f*** all about her.
I'm stuck on whether to think it's Glenn or Daryl who dies. I mean, I wanna think Glenn since it would be core to Maggie's character development but Norman Reedus is going to have his own show...
Omg I wish I would've stalled longer to watch the finale. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Ridiculous.
They've apparently shot death scenes for each main character to avoid spoilers. I personally couldn't care less. I haven't thought about TWD since the season finale, to be honest.
Well, I'm really excited. Can't wait for this to be back. Looking forward to seeing what happens with Negan and whether or not the group are willing to co-operate.
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