What do you make of the latest Taylor Swift drama? This time featuring secret recordings, the Kardashians and snakes!
In short: http://www.vox.com/2016/7/18/12210858/kim-kardashian-taylor-swift-snapchat-kanye-west
I keep seeing article headlines but I've no idea what has actually happened, but the fact of the matter is I don't really care and I'm bored of the media constantly getting at Taylor, regardless of whether it is 'justified' or not.
I've seen the supposed 'truth' video and it seems like there's a LOT of editing and cut-out bits and I don't see why Kim would put this up now when the song was released three months ago
Not even interested anymore - we've established the fact Taylor is an idiot by now, she's a complete waste of media space and my time
I don't know what to think. It's all just a giant mess, like I never thought just one Kanye song would cause so much madness in Hollywood. We stopped caring about the whole Taylor vs. Kanye thing five years ago, and now it's comeback just because of one f*cking song?
I think while there is truth to what Taylor is claiming, even I admit there is a chance that she did slightly manipulate the situation to benefit her further. Nevertheless, what I am seeing on social media is absolutely disgusting with millions of people absolutely loving that they can tweet #TaylorIsOverParty or whatever the latest horrible hashtag is. It is so nasty and horrible to watch, all of these Twitter trolls need to realise Taylor is an actual human being and not just a internet construct for people to bully. And why was Kim filming a private phone call? If Taylor is a "snake" then Kim is just as much.
However I think what was even worse was what happened between Khloe and Chloe Grace Moretz as a spin-off from the Taylor drama, Khloe was so nasty and I'm glad Chloe dealt with it so well.
I am loving it tbh, about time Taylor was knocked down a peg or 5.
This is a giant Mess and honestly I can see both sides oops tho
Demi getting involved tho
This seems rather overhyped given that it's source is a Kardashian. I'm wholly untrusting of that clan, everything they do and say is carefully orchestrated to suit their own agenda (all celebs are the same but the Kardashians have taken it to a whole new level
I am fully on Team CGM. There are people on the other side of the country, let alone the world, who have lost their families, their homes, and some even their lives, and all we're gonna talk about is THIS? Every single day something bad happens and we spend the rest of the day praying for that city/state/country/whatever until something bad happens to another city/state/country/whatever. Celebrities shouldn't be wasting their times exposing one another, recording private phone calls and posting pictures of another's butthole. There are other things that they could be doing in their life.
Well tbh, if Taylor were to spread lies about someone and I had proof that they were lies, I'd expose as well. You can't really blame her
Why should I care about what Taylor Swift is doing when:
1) There are people dying every day around the world due to terrorist attacks
2) The United Kingdom is falling apart
3) I've got my own personal stuff to think about
4) Her music is and always has been SHIT
Nobody asked or forced you to care tho
Yass Kim expose that two faced faux goody goody.
Yeah if you're not interested then you don't need to comment in the thread about it. Lol x
Honestly the reason why people are latching onto this is because it is welcome break from all the 'real drama' happening in the world, plus everyone loves a bit of juicy gossip that's just human nature. Still find it a bit weird how Kim was snapchatting that conversation and had it saved but whatever!
What has Demi said, missed her input!
From what I've heard from some respected music industry insiders she sounds like a pretty vindictive, mean and calculating person so none of these revelations surprise me at all really. I thought Neil Tennant described her best as 'the Mrs Thatcher of pop music' - she only cares about the money (and fame) at the end of the day.
I'm failing my class in useless celebrity infantile behaviour gossip. Can someone tell me what's going on in layman' terms?
Kim just destroyed Taylors beige white girl persona.
Taylor needs to stop being a twat really and should've just left things secret like the TIWYCF co-write and shouldn't have been so militant about Famous' lyrics when she was lying all along. Sometimes you just say nothing or if you lie like this it comes back to bite you in the ass. Having said that it is a bit odd that Kim recorded this in the first place and had it there ready and waiting to use when she wanted a bit of attention As for Kanye he needs as little of that as possible.
I am fed up of the media always being at her though, like yea this time it's probably justified but I think it's ridiculous when people come for her and accuse every relationship she has of being a media ploy as if she's the only celebrity to date other celebrities. Same goes for Kim most of the time, she can never do anything right and imo she hasn't really done anything THAT bad and it's hardly her fault that people react to her the way they do and give her the attention to make her famous. She likes the attention, but so do a hell of a lot of famous people.
I don't actually really care that much though I still love Taylor's music which is the main thing for me and it is a rather petty saga.
I don't know why people are saying Kim is in the wrong for recording the call. She obviously suspected something like this would happen and what do you know it DOES so good on her for being so media savvy and getting evidence ready before the inevitable backtrack from Taylor.
Yeah, it was just clever on her part. If I were in her position I doubt I'd have thought to record the call, but her having the foresight to do so should be commended rather than condemned. She obviously didn't trust Taylor.
omgg I love Taylor being outed by Kim K and Calvin Harris in such a short amount of time. Who knew Kim could be of use! I used to hate Swift irrationally but now I feel like I have a valid reason to dislike her. Even back then I loved it when Kanye West stole her moment at whatever Award Show it was.
That said, 'All Too Well' is still an amazingly written song though. But Taylor and the rest of her discography should disappear.
I don't really know what's happening. But as long she's getting exposed it's fine by me.
Luckily I can separate the person form the music, enough. '1989' is still (almost) flawless and a couple of other singles here and there are jams too, but I'm just happy now that there's basically PROOF of Taylor being the person I've always thought she was. I've hated this whole "squad" thing the most though.. It's a shame that someone so talented is so vindictive and calculating.
My favourite part of it all is knowing that it's all fallen on "National Snake Day", apparently!
^ I feel the same. Her music is great, great pop music and (if she actually does write them) then she's a brilliant pop writer.
But there is no denying that she is the 'Mean Girl' and always has been. Sometimes you just get a sense about people and she got me from day 1.
It's nice to see her being dragged. I know that's horrible because "she's a human" but she didn't care when she was the one doing it to Katy.
She made millions out of saying Katy was mean to her.. when it's almost certain Katy just didn't want to join her clique and she screamed like a brat and vowed revenge!
I mean, if you read some of the stuff about Taylor-Nation, it's actually scary how her team have controlled all of this amazing press about her for so long.
But when you see that they were deleting fan's videos because they hadn't paid royalties, how they were taking pictures down because Taylor wouldn't make money..
And I read an article featuring a reporter that sort-of infiltrated the Taylor Clique for a while, but when she was kinda negative about something they froze her out of parties and basically blacklisted her.. She's ruthless.
And so this really couldn't be happening to a nicer popstar.. She's a dreadful person.
I love how we call our pop stars, like Britney Spears, names for having a mental breakdown after being built up just to be torn down by our society. Yet, we have adults calling Swift a role model. Want to see a good hearted person that has been repeatedly kicked when down by others, yet never responds to the hate? Go look at Britney.
But, everyone loves Taylor for dating and publicly bashing several of her exes with her music. And I don't want to hear the artistic expression excuse, your personal business with another person is not the publics business. Kanye West is a sack of moldy shit, but, at least we know that about him. If anything he did her a favor by being a dumb ass on the VMA's. That was the event that took her from teen star to a household name. But, props to her for keeping that act together for so long. I bring up Britney Spears only because she is a southern girl turned icon that even at the edge of death has stayed humble and kind. It seems to me Taylor has tried to emulate her 'girl next door/ not so innocent / lovable', personality. Except Taylor is doing it for sales, not because she is. Think of all the feuds Britney could have addressed to make her gain more publicity. Justin, Christina, Jessica Simpson, Fred Durst... But, has she ever even addressed those things? No! Taylor may be more vocally talented but she isn't even close to the kind hearted person Britney is. She is just marketed to corner that same market Britney no longer has a monopoly on. Because icons with good hearts usually don't exist. Just my two cents.
ALSO:
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this is my favourite historical moment
I'm not siding with Taylor on this (I think it's good that she's getting exposed for lying), but this video does give an interesting take on the story - in that by recording the phone call without telling her it was being recorded is in fact illegal, so Kim K isn't exactly a saint in this either.
I wonder if Owl City still has a crush on her after all this.
And the plot thickens
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/news/amp61522/taylor-swift-lawsuit-kanye-west-kim-kardashian/?client=safari#
can we talk about kat von d exposing jeffree today
Never has one person achieved so much with so very little talent.
She can't sue for being recorded because Kimye recorded it in New York. New York does not require both parties approval to publish a recording, just the person recording it.
Kimye and Taylor are in cahoots with each other to cause a media frenzy and as much publicity as possible for each other? You'll see when they "make up" again in a year's time and are suddenly BFFs again
I find Taylor a bag of contradictions. She doesn't like when people come for her, but will happily go after others. Oh a woman should never betray another woman, or bad mouth another woman.... Have you heard my new song where I tear a fellow woman to shreds?
did the wrong quote bye
I'm still your girl though, right?
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So is that DNCE diss song about Taylor gonna come up or
Hmm... What do you guys think?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliegerstein/people-are-going-in-on-taylor-swifts-womens-march-tweet?bffbobsessed&utm_term=.xcoLWJaBe#.aadaMKoGJ
Some people have gone in hard on her. But, I did find that tweet a bit "you serious?" when I first saw it myself last night. Just because I can't get passed just how hypocritical she is. Some of these tweets are harsh, but they have valid points. I don't mind that she wasn't there marching if she couldn't due to work etc... I saw a lot of other celebs say (paraphrasing slightly ofc) "Unfortunately I wasn't able to march, but I am so proud..." etc..
So where do you guys stand? Is this all blown out of proportion?
That one tweet though:
"Taylor doesn't speak: Gets hate
Taylor speaks: Gets hate"
Is true too, tbh.
That tweet is correct. It's not as if every feminist celebrity with an opinion would've been at the march, and why should Taylor have to write a whole essay on why she didn't go? Perhaps she was working, out of the country visiting people, whatever, why should she have to explain absolutely every little thing about why she does or doesn't do things just because it's cool to hate Taylor Swift and people will jump on her? I perfectly understand people's problems with her approach to certain things or her personality so I'm not being a biased stan but honestly I'm sure she was far from the only feminist celebrity not to go and march, so I don't see the problem?! Any number of things could've meant she couldn't and didn't go, but people just assume there's some conspiracy where she pretends to be feminist for record sales and then spends all day worshipping Trump or some shit Perhaps the reason she stays quiet is because she gets enough shit as it is! As I said I get why people wouldn't like her or her music, and that's fine, but why is EVERYTHING she does always so wrong and such a fuss? As that tweet said, if she didn't tweet at all about it, her mentions would have exploded with people moaning.
I agree with Liam entirely on this, I don't get what's wrong with Taylor's tweet at all. I've seen many celebrities (male and female) tweet their support for those marching even if they didn't make it themselves - what's the big deal? Taylor can't do right for doing wrong, it's a bit tiresome at this point to see people jumping on her for anything. Really don't get the issue with her tweet.
My god if she is getting attacked over this then it really is in to hate her. Dollar's on her next album flopping. I guess she wishes she didn't try to tske down Katy Perry now and start the narrative of being a Regina George total bitch!
With regards to feminism, I do feel like Taylor is only into it when it is of benefit to her and her brand. Considering her feminist anthem Bad Blood is literally there to say how awful some woman is.
The fact she clearly didn't want to show a side during the election because she still has a lot of old fashioned country fans (as mentioned in the article) bothers me more than this. I agree with Liam that should could easily have been out of the country and unable to attend the march.
I just don't get all this Taylor-bashing, IMO she is still one of the most likeable girls in music.
i dont see any problem here though.
It seems like Taylor never does practice what she preaches.... but oh well.
Zayn was never up there to be dragged down tbh
He is more Appletons than Geri Halliwell.
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