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 21st January 2018, 03:26 PM
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Breitbart is literally an extreme right wing fake news page. It is like the genesis of fake news. Now we kiw what type of exho chamber sources you read. |
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21st January 2018, 03:48 PM
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 Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Shia LeMuffQueef @ Jan 21 2018, 03:26 PM)  No. Breitbart is literally an extreme right wing fake news page. It is like the genesis of fake news. Now we kiw what type of exho chamber sources you read. I didn't seek it out - the link was in a usenet post I read. Trump should be called out for what he has *actually* said & done, but not for hearsay as well. This post has been edited by vidcapper: 21st January 2018, 03:50 PM |
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21st January 2018, 05:01 PM
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I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 21 2018, 03:48 PM) I didn't seek it out - the link was in a usenet post I read. Trump should be called out for what he has *actually* said & done, but not for hearsay as well. I completely agree. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01...acist.html?_r=0 |
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21st January 2018, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 21 2018, 03:06 PM) So it's OK if I treat stories from the Guardian that way?  You can believe what you like. You can believe UFO's piloted by pink elephants buss round the skies of Europe. I will ask for PROOF...but you can continue to believe it.. 
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22nd January 2018, 07:31 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Soy Adrián @ Jan 21 2018, 05:01 PM) No-one is denying that he has made racist comments, but given the US 1st Amendment, they cannot be used against him in any attempt at impeachment. |
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22nd January 2018, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 22 2018, 07:31 AM) No-one is denying that he has made racist comments, but given the US 1st Amendment, they cannot be used against him in any attempt at impeachment. There's plenty of other stuff he is guilty of for that. And they key part of the US constitution is still "All men are created equal" not "All rich sons of bitches are free to screw everyone else and ignore the law". |
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22nd January 2018, 10:01 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Jan 22 2018, 09:14 AM) There's plenty of other stuff he is guilty of for that. You'd think that sort of stuff would stop him becoming POTUS in the first place.  QUOTE And they key part of the US constitution is still "All men are created equal" not "All rich sons of bitches are free to screw everyone else and ignore the law". True enough - that's a lawyer's job.
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22nd January 2018, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jan 22 2018, 10:01 AM) You'd think that sort of stuff would stop him becoming POTUS in the first place. True enough - that's a lawyer's job. What, you mean like the much milder, less crooked, impeached Richard Nixon was stopped being elected for crimes he hadn't committed? He committed the crimes while President...... Trump's predate his Presidency and have continued since. |
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26th January 2018, 10:31 PM
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I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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It's come out today that Trump tried to get special prosecutor Robert Mueller fired last June, but his counsel refused and threatened to resign rather than carry out the order.
Not suspicious at all... |
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27th January 2018, 05:29 PM
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Trump's interview with Piers Morgan is tomorrow at 10pm on ITV1.
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27th January 2018, 05:44 PM
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I think I'm rearranging the fruit bowl at that time.
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30th January 2018, 03:44 PM
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Paul Hyett
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Alas, this one isn't true, but it is amusing :
****************** Judy Wallman Trump, a professional genealogical researcher in southern California, was doing some personal work on her own family tree. She discovered that President Donald Trump's great-great-uncle, Remus Trump, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889. Both Judy and President Trump share this common ancestor. The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows in Montana territory. On the back of the picture Judy obtained during her research is this inscription: “Remus Trump, horse thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives, convicted and hanged in 1889.” So Judy recently e-mailed the President for information about their great-great-uncle, Remus.Believe it or not, President Trump's staff sent back the following biographical sketch for her genealogy research: “Remus Trump was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory. His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to government service, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.” ***************** Apparently it's been doing the rounds in various forms for years : https://www.snopes.com/politics/humor/horsethief.asp |
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30th January 2018, 04:04 PM
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new hair, new tee, new Levii’s Jeans
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oh my god the narcissism I’m SCREAMING
I feel sorry for her |
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30th January 2018, 08:07 PM
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more importantly, despite a democratic decision taken by all US politicians to impose sanctions on Russia, and CIA warnings that they will attempt to influence the mid-terms, Trump has refused to impose sanctions.
So, he's not a Russian agent and they have nothing on him at all, no sirree. Not a bit. Not a pissing tape, not corrupt evidence of collusion not a thing nada. He is overturing American democratically-arrived votes and call himself King because he has nothing to hide. Totally not guilty of anything, and not trying to subvert FBI questionning of people who have admitted their guilt in colluding with Russia. I'm sure those just waiting to be taken to trial are just innocent, too. Nothing to see here at all. Trump has just been an innocent dupe. When he called out to the Russians during the Presidential campaign to find dirt on Hillary Clinton I'm sure it was just a figure of speech. When he went to Judge Miss Bolsheviks in Moscow it was just a warm gesture by non-Business partners, because Trump is always happy to go out of his way for ventures that dont involve making money or golfing. Totally innocent. |
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1st February 2018, 03:11 PM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Jan 30 2018, 08:07 PM) more importantly, despite a democratic decision taken by all US politicians to impose sanctions on Russia, and CIA warnings that they will attempt to influence the mid-terms, Trump has refused to impose sanctions. What form would that influence take, I wonder?  |
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1st February 2018, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Feb 1 2018, 03:11 PM) What form would that influence take, I wonder? same as last time of course. |
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2nd February 2018, 06:53 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Feb 1 2018, 07:29 PM) same as last time of course. There were plenty of allegations, but without proof, they are just mudslinging... This post has been edited by vidcapper: 2nd February 2018, 07:27 AM |
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2nd February 2018, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Feb 2 2018, 06:53 AM) There were plenty of allegations, but without proof, they are just mudslinging... There is enough fact in the open already (and there is an investigation ongoing with people involved having already pleaded guilty) to treat is as fact that there has been collusion with Russians. You either believe that trump is utterly innocent of everything he is being accused of along with his supporters who get fired on a regular basis for refusing to bend the knee in worship to all his illegal doings, or there is a conspiracy involving all judges, FBI, CIA, British intelligence, politicians, military against Trump and all those dead Russians involved in the those leaked papers investigating Russian links were just co-incidence. Dead bodies and masses of data on targeted propaganda bots based in Ukraine is a pretty strong suggestion that it isn't mudslinging. Feel free as usual to ignore evidence though and stick your head in the sand because it suits your world view, and I will refer you to your quote in the EU thread as being key to everything, so it's a bit ironic that you fail to recognise threats to democracy and due process.... |
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2nd February 2018, 10:15 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Feb 2 2018, 09:55 AM) There is enough fact in the open already (and there is an investigation ongoing with people involved having already pleaded guilty) to treat is as fact that there has been collusion with Russians. You either believe that trump is utterly innocent of everything he is being accused of along with his supporters who get fired on a regular basis for refusing to bend the knee in worship to all his illegal doings, or there is a conspiracy involving all judges, FBI, CIA, British intelligence, politicians, military against Trump and all those dead Russians involved in the those leaked papers investigating Russian links were just co-incidence. Dead bodies and masses of data on targeted propaganda bots based in Ukraine is a pretty strong suggestion that it isn't mudslinging. Pardon me if I believe that proof in *court* is what matters... |
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2nd February 2018, 03:10 PM
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I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Feb 2 2018, 10:15 AM) Pardon me if I believe that proof in *court* is what matters... You know full well that investigations like this take years. The evidence that has already emerged is pretty damning - I daresay that if it were Clinton in the same position, you wouldn't be so desperate to wait until it's all finished. |
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