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BuzzJack Music Forum _ UK Charts _ Non-Number Ones who could have been number one

Posted by: Taylor Jago Oct 28 2014, 10:48 AM

List songs that weren't number one but who had higher first week sales than a number one of its year at any point in that year

Example:


Seems like a few missed opportunaties for Disco Love to have been number one. (And by the way, there were six new entries in the top 10 that week, including Eminem "Berzerk" (#2) and Conor Maynard "R U Crazy?" (#4), both higher than Disco Love, meaning that both of those songs could have also been number one had they been released on those aforementionned weeks. Other new entries including Miley Cyrus "Wrecking Ball" (#1), James Blunt "Bonfire Heart" (#6) and John Newman "Cheating" (#9)

Got any other examples? If you do, feel free to post them!

(For further information, in 2011 on two occasions the weekly sale of the number one was less than 50,000 copies, on 3 occasions the weekly sale was less than 60,000 copies, on 8 it was less than 70,000 copies and on 18 occasions it was less than 80,000 copies.
In 2012 on four occasions the weekly sale of the number one was less than 60,000 copies, on 9 occasions it was less than 70,000 copies and on 15 occasions it was less than 80,000 copies.
And In 2013 twice the weekly sale of the number one was less than 50,000 copies, on 5 occasions it was less than 60,000 copies, on 11 occasions it was than 70,000 copies and on 16 occasions it was less than 80,000 copies.)

Posted by: Taylor Jago Oct 28 2014, 12:15 PM

All Fired Up by The Saturdays.

All Fired Up entered at 3 on week ending 17/09/2011 with 68,922 copies sold.


I'll try to find something else!

Posted by: T Boy Oct 28 2014, 06:32 PM

This thread reminds me of when N-Dubz said if XF didn't exist they'd have been no.1 with I Need You.

I expect a lot of singles released in 2004 had a shot at no.1 at some point if we apply this logic.

Posted by: gooddelta Oct 28 2014, 07:20 PM

Up by The Saturdays.

Could have been No.1 if it had been released as their debut single the week Coldplay went to No.1 with Viva La Vida sad.gif

What Are You Waiting For by The Saturdays.

Could have been No.1 if...the 37 songs in front had never been written sad.gif

Posted by: T Boy Oct 28 2014, 07:27 PM

Well the Saturdays would beat the Beatles with 18 no.1s if no one else had released music in the parts 10 years. They're just so unlucky.

Posted by: Sheikh Abdul Oct 28 2014, 07:30 PM

QUOTE
W/E 1st Feb 2014
3. The Vamps - Wild Heart 83,130
QUOTE
W/E 26th July 2014

Colour Code: OVERALL UNITS SALES STREAMING POINTS

1. Rixton - Me & My Broken Heart 63,478 61,275 2,203




Posted by: SevenSeize Oct 28 2014, 07:38 PM

QUOTE(sunday @ Jun 2 2008, 09:18 AM) *
01 Rihanna (Take a Bow) 35,561

QUOTE(▬Mart!n▬ @ Oct 5 2014, 11:10 AM) *
7 The Magician feat. Years & Years 35,986


........ ohmy.gif

Posted by: { bré } Oct 28 2014, 07:40 PM

Insert inevitable reference to Orson and something super low down the chart on the biggest gift card week

Posted by: مدهش* Oct 28 2014, 08:46 PM

The Saturdays' Not Giving Up could so easily have been a number one with 18,424 copies sold, if only it had been released in March 2006.

SUCH A MISSED OPPORTUNITY sad.gif





(edit: couldn't resist, sorry Bré sad.gif )


Posted by: ML Hammer95 Oct 28 2014, 08:57 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Oct 28 2014, 07:27 PM) *
Well the Saturdays would beat the Beatles with 18 no.1s if no one else had released music in the parts 10 years. They're just so unlucky.


laugh.gif

Posted by: ►▲N Oct 28 2014, 09:10 PM

Just Can't Get Enough by The Saturdays sold 64,785 copies to enter at #2 on 14 March 2009.

The week before, Kelly Clarkson sold 51,115 copies to enter at #1

Lily Allen also sold 59,671 and 45,629 copies to stay at #1 the two weeks before that.

2 weeks after The Saturdays entered at #2, Lady GaGa got 3 weeks at #1 selling 53,699 , 57,781 , and 55,318.

I won't mention all the other occasions that they could have gone to #1 or I'll be here all night.

They really were unlucky that week.

As for 'Forever Is Over' which sold 38,846 copies, well, there wasn't a single week in 2009 that could've been #1 biggrin.gif They'd have to have gone back in time and released it for the chart week 9 August 2008, to beat Kid Rock who sold 37,111 copies. Or even further back but I'm sure their team were thinking about saving energy bills for use of the TARDIS.

Posted by: T Boy Oct 28 2014, 09:46 PM

If the Saturdays had a Tardis to hand, wouldn't they be better off covering the Spice Girls, travelling back to 1990 and releasing first?

Posted by: Rabbit Froot Oct 28 2014, 09:58 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Oct 28 2014, 07:27 PM) *
Well the Saturdays would beat the Beatles with 18 no.1s if no one else had released music in the parts 10 years. They're just so unlucky.

This is true. I can't believe how unlucky they are sad.gif

Posted by: #Slayberry Oct 29 2014, 04:47 AM

Yeah, The Sats have always been screwed over with their tracks...

Also, I love King Conor and stan for "R U Crazy" like hell, but Miley deserves that #1 hands down.

"Can't Say No" though: now THAT was robbed.

Posted by: BillyH Oct 29 2014, 05:39 AM



Totally, utterly, undeservedly and shamefully robbed of what would have been one of the best #1s of the noughties by a release screw-up. Shops received the single on the Saturday, put it on shelves immediately and sold 809 copies of it too early, charting it at #68 on its one day of sales.

A week later and a posthumous track by Aaliyah beats it to the top by 595 copies!

Posted by: jafetsigfinns Oct 29 2014, 09:03 AM

Will.i.am's "Feelin' Myself" (97.417 sales/08 Feb) could have been No. 1 on 17 occasions so far:


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Zedd's "Stay The Night" (70.882 sales/22 Feb) could have been No. 1 on 4 occasions so far:
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The Vamps' "Last Night" (71.324 sales/19 Apr) could have been No. 1 on 4 occasions so far:
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5 Seconds Of Summer's "Don't Stop" (80.282 sales/28 Jun) could have been No. 1 on 9 occasions so far:
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Number 2's that could never have made No. 1 in 2014:

Posted by: T Boy Oct 29 2014, 10:48 AM

But for any of this to actually occur, you'd have to assume all these songs would always sell the same in the first week whenever they're released.

Posted by: The Hit Parade Oct 29 2014, 12:14 PM

Yeah, comparing sales over different months or even years is silly (though in fairness most people in this thread obviously know that and are just playing along) I suppose it's a song that sells more than the Number One singles in the weeks immediately before or after - or even both - that might fit better.

Puretone is a good example of an unlucky one, although not because of the scheduling itself, but because of the leaks.

Posted by: AntoineTTe Oct 29 2014, 01:28 PM

Take That - Rule the World sold enough to be number 1 in any of 47 other weeks of 2007. There were 53 charts that year.

Posted by: N-S Oct 29 2014, 03:59 PM

The most famous cases are Last Christmas and Whenever Wherever which had huge first week sales that would get them #1 in 99% of any given week, but were unlucky to be released on the same week as other giant-selling record-breaking records.

Posted by: hotchoc26 Oct 30 2014, 06:21 PM

Dappy's Rockstar was held back by Gotye's hit, and he would've had a second solo #1 after No Regrets!

Also Maroon 5's Moves Like Jagger's impressive yet unlucky 7 weeks at #2!

Posted by: Neil. S Oct 30 2014, 06:24 PM

There's no way Birthday would've beaten Prayer in C to number one. There were different sales circumstances

Posted by: hotchoc26 Oct 30 2014, 06:58 PM

QUOTE(Neil. S @ Oct 30 2014, 06:24 PM) *
There's no way Birthday would've beaten Prayer in C to number one. There were different sales circumstances


Birthday? Katy Perry? The one which peaked at 22? laugh.gif

Posted by: Taylor Jago Nov 11 2014, 06:35 PM

In 1998 and 1999, there used to be a lot of songs released the same week:

All of these songs debuted in the charts on week ending 03/04/1999:


Flat Beat's first week sales were of 283,000. The lowest weekly sale for a number one in 1999 was A Little Bit More by 911, which sold 75,400 copies on week ending 23/01/1999.
It is likely that at least Witch Doctor had higher first week sales than that (though I don't have any data to confirm this)

Posted by: Taylor Jago Nov 16 2014, 08:16 PM

Well, Tiesto "'Wasted" never could have been number one so far in 2014. No wasted opportunies for Tiesto...

Posted by: Hadji Jan 19 2015, 01:30 PM

"Wish You Were Mine" would have had two weeks at number one if "Uptown Funk" wasn't rush-released

Posted by: Jonjo Jan 19 2015, 01:38 PM

QUOTE(Hadji @ Jan 19 2015, 01:30 PM) *
"Wish You Were Mine" would have had two weeks at number one if "Uptown Funk" wasn't rush-released
Another reason to love 'Uptown Funk'. wub.gif Lord knows we don't need yet another bland, faceless dance number 1.

Posted by: Hadji Jan 20 2015, 10:55 AM

QUOTE(Jonjo @ Jan 19 2015, 01:38 PM) *
Another reason to love 'Uptown Funk'. wub.gif Lord knows we don't need yet another bland, faceless dance number 1.

It also stopped both "Thinking Out Loud" and "Something I Need" from each gaining an extra week at number one.

Posted by: JSG Jan 25 2015, 08:53 PM

we have always said that The Sats do seem to pick the wrong weeks to release their singles laugh.gif

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