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 'Glory Days: Platinum Edition' • 4th Album • Part II, Re-Release inc Behind The Scenes Tour Doc!e |
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 Aug 8 2018, 10:22 PM
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 I found the love, I found the love in me
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2003-2004 really saddens me in regards to songs not reaching their cultural relevance with it's sales. For example, 'Toxic' and 'Everytime' are "only" 400k+ sellers. 'Crazy In Love' by Beyoncé is the same iirc. Sales have never represented the cultural significance of songs imo, so I don't think it matters as much as people believe it does, imo.
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Aug 9 2018, 03:21 AM
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I think sales are just a way for record labels to plug success or see potential in acts, the most important thing for an artist is radio airplay and ticket sales. I'm pretty sure radio stations layout about £200 per radio play.
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Aug 9 2018, 03:22 AM
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Sales were so horrible then!
 Everytime ended 2004 on sales of 197,000 copies - despite it spending 7 weeks in the Top 10. It grew to 400,000+ as of November 2016. Toxic had sold 260,000 copies by the end of 2004, and it finally achieved 600,000+ sales as of December 2017. Crazy in Love has hugely benefited from the digital era. It sold 267,000 physicals, but as of July 2018 its overall sales have swelled to 1,111,000 - thanks to 502,000 streaming units(!) and 342,000 downloads. QUOTE(Juliano @ Aug 8 2018, 08:13 AM)  It's 150 streams is one sale on a premium account and 350 streams is a sale on a free account and only 10 streams per person per day count. It's 100:1 premium & 600:1 ad-funded (and that changes to 200:1 premium and 1200:1 ad-funded when the song goes to ACR). |
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Aug 9 2018, 03:56 AM
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Julian Nial
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That's right they just changed it recently, it used to be 150 then 350 after it goes ACR. They're changing so often I'm losing track lol.
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Aug 9 2018, 12:05 PM
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Yes I did realise it had to be a certain amount of plays not one sale per play. It's still reflective of a hit that achieved certain status from selling one copy and that only ever counting once to a song that gets a sale for every 150 times it is played. I'm not against streaming I just think it should be capped at one sale per person (or account) and one account cannot play a song 10 times a day (along with the rest of an acts fanbase) in order to get a song up in the charts. I also don't think that the playlists should be allowed to count, as it's essentially like putting on the radio and listening to whatever the radio deems you should listen to, or a Youtube playlist. They don't count as sales and there are songs getting massive sale influxes due to casual listeners who might not even particularly like that song or even consider playing or listening to that song never mind purchasing it.
I'm not against streaming but I think it is handled wrong and has made a bit of a mockery of the chart. |
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Aug 9 2018, 04:09 PM
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Julian Nial
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Yeh I get that, it's a bit like giving sales to a song on the radio depending on how many people are listening at the time.
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Aug 9 2018, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(Juliano @ Aug 9 2018, 05:09 PM) Yeh I get that, it's a bit like giving sales to a song on the radio depending on how many people are listening at the time. Exactly. I do think Spotify and streaming data does have it's place but I just think it has been handled completely wrong in terms of how sales are counted. |
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May 12 2019, 02:47 PM
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It looks as though the album may drop out of the chart soon after 129 straight weeks! How amazing. I’m sure it’ll have a few more weeks in the future like Get Weird did.
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Jun 23 2019, 01:30 PM
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It’s still in the top 100 now
 What a crazy era this become for them. Uk wise Aside from Leonas debut is it the best selling X Factor album? This post has been edited by Jordan Lee: Jun 23 2019, 01:31 PM |
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Jun 25 2019, 01:11 PM
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Some of Olly Murs albums have sold more than Glory Days.
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Jun 25 2019, 02:15 PM
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Did JLS' first album also sell more?
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Jun 25 2019, 06:17 PM
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I feel like Jordan meant "winners". But tbh that really isn't that difficult a feat aha. Aren't Leona & Little Mix the only winners to achieve million sellers?
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Jun 26 2019, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(Jonjo @ Jun 25 2019, 07:17 PM) I feel like Jordan meant "winners". But tbh that really isn't that difficult a feat aha. Aren't Leona & Little Mix the only winners to achieve million sellers? Album wise yes, but James Arthur and Alexandra Burke both had million seller singles and Alex came somewhat close to her debut album selling a million. |
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Jun 26 2019, 01:02 PM
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I did mean winners wise yeah!
I think 1ds debut may have sold more too. Aside from Leonas debut though it’s definitely the X Factor album to spend most weeks at number one and I think it’s the one to get most weeks top 10 too even beating Spirit. It’s so impressive that Little Mix did that with their fourth album though. That’s usually when X Factor acts are on the decline. I thought it was the biggest other than Leona winners wise I thought it had outsold Alex’s debut album but didn’t know if I underestimated her popularity in 2009-10 when sales were bigger. This post has been edited by Jordan Lee: Jun 28 2019, 02:49 PM |
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Sep 1 2019, 10:25 PM
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'If I Get My Way' some how majorly grew on me today... still bitter 'Is Your Love Enough?' was not performed, let alone released as a single. PERFORM IT PLEASE GIRLS! This, Wasabi and Forget You Not for the tour!!
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Sep 1 2019, 11:25 PM
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I found the love, I found the love in me
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I'm quite annoyed they didn't give IYLE? a proper single release. Ugh.
I hope you're right and they add it to this tour, but I highly doubt it! |
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Sep 9 2019, 04:46 PM
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Jord
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QUOTE(Juliano @ Sep 1 2019, 11:25 PM) 'If I Get My Way' some how majorly grew on me today... still bitter 'Is Your Love Enough?' was not performed, let alone released as a single. PERFORM IT PLEASE GIRLS! This, Wasabi and Forget You Not for the tour!! If I Get My Way was always my favourite track from the re release! But for me Get Weird had the biggest missed opportunities for singles. Releasing Hair and Love Me Like You when Lightning and Love Me or Leave me exist! Glory Days for me was their best era for single choices I think that’s a large part as to why the album sold so well. |
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Apr 3 2020, 06:00 PM
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Back in the album chart at number 79 this week
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Apr 3 2020, 06:22 PM
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Amazing.
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Apr 3 2020, 06:43 PM
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Charted for 157 weeks. Wow!
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