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 6th December 2019, 11:40 AM
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I note that you have edited blacksquare, it seems Channel 4 mis-quoted Boris:
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6th December 2019, 12:28 PM
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Howdy, disco citizens
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ Dec 6 2019, 11:39 AM)  Ian Austin is headline news and this isn't? This is currently the leading story on the BBC News website. |
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6th December 2019, 12:33 PM
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Why is that story not EVERYWHERE?! It should be on the front page of every newspaper and the lead story on BBTory broadcast news for DAYS. It's not.
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6th December 2019, 12:36 PM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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As Christopher has posted it is on the front page of BBC News - the majority of the print media is owned by billionaires so it is probably in their interest to prevent stories that damage the Tories making the front pages.
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6th December 2019, 12:39 PM
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If this were Labour, BBTory broadcast news would have it as the lead story for days across their news bulletins, like they did with Branson's lies vs Corbyn.
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6th December 2019, 12:41 PM
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 there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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The hate that some of you have for Diane Abbott while excusing much worse in white men is incredibly transparent.
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6th December 2019, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(JingleBellJüpes @ Dec 6 2019, 12:41 PM) The hate that some of you have for Diane Abbott while excusing much worse in white men is incredibly transparent. Preach! I know some people I suspect of being at the very least hard right, if not worse, and they always attack her, but don't make a peep about the egregious mistakes made by white male tories. |
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6th December 2019, 01:13 PM
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The thing is they probably don 't even realize the are racists either.
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6th December 2019, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(OVEN UN-READY. @ Dec 6 2019, 11:40 AM) I note that you have edited blacksquare, it seems Channel 4 mis-quoted Boris: I did, although it further proves how worryingly easy it is to believe Boris Johnson would say something like that. I’m glad Channel 4 were quick correct themselves. I’m happy the John Major story is getting traction — Ian Austin was everywhere, which is what you would expect for an ex-PM urging people to vote tactically against his party. This post has been edited by blacksquare: 6th December 2019, 01:21 PM |
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6th December 2019, 03:32 PM
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Finally got a leaflet from Labour - but it turns out she is a big Remainer, so forget that!
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7th December 2019, 09:55 AM
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How many of the MP's that switched parties 2017-2019 will retain their seats?
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7th December 2019, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Dec 6 2019, 01:13 PM) The thing is they probably don 't even realize the are racists either. Depends on whether you use a broad or narrow definition of the term. |
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7th December 2019, 10:09 AM
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Retaining their seats, or continuing in Parliament? Because I believe Luciana Berger has a semi-decent shot in Finchley & Golders Green for the Lib Dems despite it being a Con-Lab marginal before, they chose that seat very well for her, it has a high Jewish population. I want to believe Totnes will be loyal to Wollaston but I can't see it. Don't think any of the rest of the Lib Dem switchers will hold on.
Of the independent former One Nation Tories, I think Grieve has the best chance in Beaconsfield - those are a bit more complicated as they're directly competing with their former safe Tory voting base. |
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7th December 2019, 10:31 AM
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Cheltenham looks incredibly close - possibly recount territory!
The local press says the Tory is considered a good constituency MP, so that might just save him. 
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7th December 2019, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(Holly and Izzy @ Dec 7 2019, 11:09 AM) Retaining their seats, or continuing in Parliament? Because I believe Luciana Berger has a semi-decent shot in Finchley & Golders Green for the Lib Dems despite it being a Con-Lab marginal before, they chose that seat very well for her, it has a high Jewish population. I want to believe Totnes will be loyal to Wollaston but I can't see it. Don't think any of the rest of the Lib Dem switchers will hold on. Of the independent former One Nation Tories, I think Grieve has the best chance in Beaconsfield - those are a bit more complicated as they're directly competing with their former safe Tory voting base. Finchley will probably have a very split Labour-Lib Dem vote and I imagine the Tories will fairly comfortably win it. Even those who *want* to tactically vote don't seem to know what to do, never mind those who are massively anti-Corbyn or massively anti-Coalition. Beaconsfield looks to be staying Tory, unfortunately, but I hope their voteshare tanks massively. |
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7th December 2019, 03:57 PM
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Don't know if anyone's been posting any polls during my short break from posting. Should be some tonight for tomorrow' papers.
Westminster Voting Intention: CON: 44% (-) LAB: 32% (+4) LIB: 13% (-3) GRN: 3% (-) BREX: 2% (-1) @IpsosMORI Dec 2-4 Changes w/ Late Nov |
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7th December 2019, 03:59 PM
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Identical to the polls in the final week of 2017. The BBTory is only mentioning that she was "weak" three years later
 No government since the 19th century has increased its vote share the fourth time around. Have faith.
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7th December 2019, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 7 2019, 03:59 PM) Identical to the polls in the final week of 2017. Not true, Labour are several % points further behind. |
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7th December 2019, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 7 2019, 03:59 PM) Identical to the polls in the final week of 2017. Yes I thought that too and we ended up with a hung parliament. I think the turnout of the young could yet swing this away from a Tory majority. |
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7th December 2019, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(vidsanta @ Dec 7 2019, 04:10 PM) Not true, Labour are several % points further behind. Okay Vid what were they on then? Was it around 35 or 36? This post has been edited by Crazy Chris-tmas: 7th December 2019, 04:12 PM |
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