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Posted by: Crazy Chris 7th January 2018, 07:38 PM

Justine Greening said by The Telegraph to be losing her job at Education which comes as a surprise as she's not been bad in her brief and doesn't seem to be hated by the teaching unions like her predecessors were. Reports that May finds her "condescending" Jeremy Hunt to be probably made Deputy PM with a new Health Secretary which may be Greening if she's kept in cabinet.


Hammond, Johnson and Rudd to stay where they are.

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 7th January 2018, 08:07 PM

I think that if Hunt is replaced every hospital in England will spontaneously erupt in cheers and applause and tears of happiness.

That May thinks his failure as Health Secretary deems him worthy of a promotion to Deputy PM is a damning indictment of her, her government and her party.

Posted by: Suedehead2 7th January 2018, 09:26 PM

For the Tories, that's where she's gone wrong.

Posted by: Suedehead2 7th January 2018, 09:28 PM

It would be a natural progression for him. At the DCM (and also) S he was effectively the minister for Murdoch which got him promoted. Now a spell as minister for Branson looks like earning him another promotion.

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 7th January 2018, 09:42 PM

Can't we just reshuffle the whole lot of them into the sun??

Especially Hhhhunt.

He better go. Deputy PM my ARSE but anythin to stop him privatising the NHS. Odious worm!!!!

Posted by: Botchia 7th January 2018, 10:27 PM

Theresa to be reshuffled into some fast moving traffic pls

Posted by: Crazy Chris 7th January 2018, 11:19 PM

She'll be shuffled out of her job before the next election.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 8th January 2018, 06:55 PM

Not many changes yet. James Brokenshire resigns as NI Secretary for health reasons as he needs a lung op soon.

Greening has reportedly left the cabinet as she was offered the DWP and refused it. Let's face it, the DWP brief is a poison chalice with the benefit cuts for disabled and Universal Credit.

Hunt stay with added responsibilty for social care. Apparently refused to move and suggested he take on social care too and May liked his bright idea.

Posted by: Suedehead2 8th January 2018, 07:13 PM

Strong and stable, strong and stable

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th January 2018, 07:55 PM

The DWP is the new Northern Ireland Office (as fans of Yes Minister will attest to).

Posted by: Shia LeMuffQueef 8th January 2018, 08:07 PM

Thwy are desperate to privatise the nhs and social care and hve their no.1 slimeball in charge. They won't change him.

Posted by: lotita. 8th January 2018, 08:08 PM

worst reshuffle ever?

Posted by: Oliver 8th January 2018, 08:15 PM

If you can even call it a reshuffle!

Posted by: Klaus 8th January 2018, 08:33 PM

this is like when I try and shuffle cards

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 8th January 2018, 10:24 PM

Bringing health and social care together is replicating a move first done in NI and since adopted in Scotland and possibly Wales. Makes sense seeing as bed blocking can be reduced with proper joined up care for the elderly.

However, hunt the c**t will monumentally botch the shit out of this. Social Care is so badly funded right now it makes the NHS look functional and swimming in funds. Also primarily controlled by local authorities that have to deal with a number of NHS trusts. System is so badly broken. I don’t get why Manchester is covered by like 6 different trusts instead of just NHS Greater Manchester. Centralise functions such as procurement, HR and finance where you can make efficiency savings by reducing the need for 6 people to do individually do a job that could be done better by a team of say 4 and benefit from economies of scale. Resource your hospitals appropriately, grouping specialists from the same discipline together under one roof rather than spread unevenly through the system (I.e. having Hospital Z as your neonatal specialist centre and hospital K as the primary major trauma centre and hospital R as your primary cancer facility)

It just feels like a broken system that people make worse instead of better.

Like my home trust, NHS Fife has a bunch of centralised services based out of Kirkcaldy that serve all the hospitals through the county. Our trusts are typically larger too. Glasgow and basically the entire West Coast is covered by a single board, NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde. Not saying it’s a perfect system, but on pretty much every metric services up north are better.


Ok that took a Turn. TLDR hunt = c**t

Posted by: Doctor Blind 8th January 2018, 10:35 PM

Well only since IDS made a complete hash of Universal Credit !

To be honest the humiliating way this reshuffle has played out through today just highlights how utterly weak and powerless the PM is, and not (how she likely wanted it to look) show her tenacious spirit and her ability to listen to the concerns of the public. Literally a PM by default.

Posted by: Suedehead2 8th January 2018, 10:39 PM

That's going too far down the typical government "one size fits all" path. It makes perfect sense to group specialists together in one hospital in Manchester or Liverpool, but it makes less sense in Cumbria.

Posted by: Harve 8th January 2018, 11:04 PM

This was so boring.

Posted by: Botchia 8th January 2018, 11:14 PM

An absolute shambles.

Posted by: Crazy Chris 9th January 2018, 09:09 AM

The odious Esther McVey at DWP.

Posted by: vidcapper 9th January 2018, 10:52 AM

Is there any Tory MP anyone here doesn't mind?

Posted by: Soy Adrián 9th January 2018, 12:11 PM

Justine Greening is generally tolerable, ironically.

Posted by: Suedehead2 9th January 2018, 12:26 PM

Why do you think she was sacked?

I've got a lot of respect for Sarah Wollaston. In many ways she sums up so much of what was wrong with Cameron. She was selected in an open primary. The stated intention of the process was to get more people into parliament who were not typical politicians. By being just that, and demonstrating a degree of independence, she has made sure that there have been no more open primaries.

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 9th January 2018, 06:57 PM

Works just fine for NHS Highland, NHS Tayside, NHS Dumfries & Galloway and NHS Borders. NHS Highland is the largest NHS Trust in the UK. 12,500 sq mi of the Highlands and Argyll & Bute with the major specialisms at Raigmore in Inverness. Three other rural hospitals have A&E services and Maternity wards and general surgery. Specialist care requires going to Inverness, although I imagine they probably send folk from down Oban way to Glasgow.


NHS Highland covers an area with 70% of the population of Cumbria, more challenging terrain and 6 times the area. They also provide some specialists to the three island health boards who all send people to hospitals on the mainland. NHS Tayside is probably the best like-for-like comparison for Cumbria with about 85-90% of it's population over about 1.2times it's landmass. Everything is centred on Ninewells in Dundee. PRI in Perth is the only other A&E. It covers Glenshee, Pitlochry and the bottom of Caingorms national park.


Cumbria already sends people for specialist care to Newcastle and Manchester. But there's no reasonable justification for why Cumbria is split into multiple trusts.


It's not 'one-size-fits-all' at all to look at England and say "there's too many trusts here" and join them up. Scotland has 14 trusts. Some cover a single local authority area (D&G, Borders, Fife, 3 Island Groups). The remainder cover multiple areas either because it makes sense from a resourcing point of view or because the LA's are small and in a close area (e.g. north Lanarkshire, City of Glasgow et al that form GG&Clyde). Joining up healthcare in the major cities into a single trust saves resources and allows for operational efficiency. Creating larger regional health trusts where the population is lower connects all levels of NHS services feeding into the regional major hospital. Let's not pretend here that if you need serious care in Cumbria you're sent anywhere other than Carlisle or Lancaster. It already happens, it just needs the back end and management to be reorganised.