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BuzzJack Music Forum _ UK Charts _ Chart Replay: Usher vs. Girls Aloud

Posted by: Medellíam 4th July 2019, 01:05 PM





It's 15 years since Usher's 'Burn' and Girls Aloud's 'The Show' entered the UK chart.

'Burn' was Usher's follow-up to his massive #1 single 'Yeah!' and second single to be released from Confessions, although original plans were for 'Burn' to lead the album,only changed when 'Yeah!' leaked and received great acclaim.

'The Show' was Girls Aloud's lead single to their second album and saw a change in sound and image; the birth of their cheeky, poppy-synth sound the girls are recognised for.

Both were hot contenders to reach #1 but, in the end, Usher finished with a 20k lead over Girls Aloud, debuting with 49,334 sales compared to their 28,572. 'Burn' has since been certified Gold for sales of over 400k, way ahead of 'The Show' which has just over 100k.

15 years on, which is your favourite?

Posted by: Medellíam 4th July 2019, 01:05 PM

Top 10
01 (NE) Usher - Burn
02 (NE) Girls Aloud - The Show
03 (02) Britney Spears - Everytime
04 (01) McFly - Obviously
05 (03) Mario Winans feat. Enya & P Diddy - I Don't Wanna Know
06 (NE) Kylie Minogue - Chocolate
07 (04) Outkast - Roses
08 (NE) George Michael - Flawless (Go to the City)
09 (NE) Blue - Blubbin'
10 (05) O-Zone - Dragostea Din Tei

Top 40 New Entries
11 (NE) Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started
14 (NE) Basement Jaxx feat. Lisa Kekaula - Good Luck
17 (NE) The Ordinary Boys - Talk Talk Talk
27 (NE) Ryan Adams - Wonderwall
30 (NE) 20-20s - Shoot Your Gun
35 (NE) Eighties Matchbox B-Line - I Could Be An Angle
38 (NE) Longview - In a Dream

Previous Chart Replays
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=223051
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=223497

Posted by: Bré 4th July 2019, 01:21 PM

This is tougher than the previous two of these for me as I like both of them about the same amount but they're both not exactly songs I would ever randomly feel like listening to. Think I'll go with GA here solely because no one needs 'Burn' when the same era gave us the miiiiles better 'Yeah!'

Posted by: Jαsє 4th July 2019, 01:23 PM

Definitely Girls Aloud!

"Burn" was never a fave of mine, he has SO many better songs!

Posted by: Medellíam 4th July 2019, 01:33 PM

I've grown to appreciate 'The Show' a lot more. I've always liked it but I've never rated it as one of their best and it always annoyed me seeing it tend do so well in Girls Aloud rates and things, especially at the expense of songs I would rate among their best. The past year it's been one I've found myself returning to a fair bit so I think I rate it a lot higher now.

'Burn' is nice but that style of R&B slow jam isn't really my thing. 'Yeah!' remains Usher's best and I don't think it'll be beaten.

(Great new entries in the shape of Kylie and BEP that week. 'Everytime' is one of Britney's very best ballads and 'Obviously' is probably my favourite McFly song.)

Posted by: Jade 4th July 2019, 01:34 PM

'The Show' by absolute miles! I've always found 'Burn' really boring... but as others said, at least that era gave us the fantastic 'Yeah!'. I love everything about 'The Show' - super catchy, quintessentially quirky Girls Aloud lyrics, well-produced and a fun video. How has it been 15 years though drama.gif

Posted by: Medellíam 4th July 2019, 01:41 PM

'The Show' kinda passed me by as a kid which is strange as I distinctly remember 'Jump' and 'Love Machine' from the time.

Posted by: Bjork 4th July 2019, 01:42 PM

both are pretty meh but The Show is the least forgettable

my fav from Usher is My Boo with Alicia Kerys which was released later that year

Posted by: danG 4th July 2019, 03:43 PM

'The Show' isn't one of my absolute faves of theirs but it easily beats 'Burn' for me.

'Yeah' is miles better than both of these though.

It should've been 'Let's Get It Started' and 'Good Luck' in the top 2 instead, both missing the top 10 is a big injustice.

Posted by: Medellíam 4th July 2019, 03:58 PM

QUOTE(danG @ Jul 4 2019, 04:43 PM) *
It should've been 'Let's Get It Started' and 'Good Luck' in the top 2 instead, both missing the top 10 is a big injustice.

They were unlucky to release in a competitive week as they had both sold enough to be Top 10 the previous week.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 4th July 2019, 04:02 PM

Burn by far

Posted by: ThePensmith 4th July 2019, 04:11 PM

Usher literally has two good singles in my opinion: 'Pop Ya Collar' and 'U Make Me Wanna'. This is neither of them, this only got to #1 because it was in that weird time when people stopped buying CD singles in the same quantities they did and gravitated like sheep by default to US R&B and hip hop because it was the in thing (see virtually 25% of the number ones from 2004, with particular gaze on that dreadful Eamon/Frankee whiny dirge we had almost nigh on two months of).

'The Show' is the far better of the two fifteen years on and back then. Girls Aloud meant something huge to fans of out and out pop music like myself back in 2004 and this was why. They were the only ones daring to be different and not go with whatever the flavour of the day was - a lot of it down to Peter Loraine at Polydor/Fascination who believed in them when so many didn't simply because of where they came from, pushing so hard for them, but also Brian Higgins and Xenomania producing all their music and taking the biggest risks with them sound wise and music wise.

You would certainly be hard pushed to find anyone else back then recording 'The Show' or 'Love Machine', or even the likes of 'Biology' a year later and making it their own. At this point in their career, they may not have got the radio play or the commercial acceptance that they would get in later years, but they were on the way to it for sure.

Posted by: Bré 4th July 2019, 04:25 PM

One of the biggest names in music for the best part of 2 decades only got a #1 at the peak of his relevance because 'US R&B was the in thing'. Okay then. I guess that explains why he never had any other hits after 2004, and why we never hear his 2004 hits any more... oh wait. You might not like Usher but what a bizarre argument.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 4th July 2019, 04:36 PM

I don't think I've heard 'Burn' since it was out, so although I couldn't tell you how it goes I do remember it was boring as f***.

Posted by: Medellíam 4th July 2019, 04:41 PM

QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Jul 4 2019, 05:11 PM) *
'The Show' is the far better of the two fifteen years on and back then. Girls Aloud meant something huge to fans of out and out pop music like myself back in 2004 and this was why. They were the only ones daring to be different and not go with whatever the flavour of the day was - a lot of it down to Peter Loraine at Polydor/Fascination who believed in them when so many didn't simply because of where they came from, pushing so hard for them, but also Brian Higgins and Xenomania producing all their music and taking the biggest risks with them sound wise and music wise.

You would certainly be hard pushed to find anyone else back then recording 'The Show' or 'Love Machine', or even the likes of 'Biology' a year later and making it their own. At this point in their career, they may not have got the radio play or the commercial acceptance that they would get in later years, but they were on the way to it for sure.

Yeah Xenomania did a fantastic job of creating interesting sounds and structures within the compounds of commercial pop music. It was the same with their work outside of Girls Aloud - I know they worked with Kylie in 2004 and they came up with something really fresh and different for her.

Posted by: ThePensmith 4th July 2019, 05:22 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jul 4 2019, 05:25 PM) *
One of the biggest names in music for the best part of 2 decades only got a #1 at the peak of his relevance because 'US R&B was the in thing'. Okay then. I guess that explains why he never had any other hits after 2004, and why we never hear his 2004 hits any more... oh wait. You might not like Usher but what a bizarre argument.


Sorry but where did I suggest that he wasn't relevant beyond 2004? I was just stating what one of the trends was that year, which he was part of with two number ones. Don't start putting words in my mouth please.

Posted by: ThePensmith 4th July 2019, 05:26 PM

QUOTE(Medellíam @ Jul 4 2019, 05:41 PM) *
Yeah Xenomania did a fantastic job of creating interesting sounds and structures within the compounds of commercial pop music. It was the same with their work outside of Girls Aloud - I know they worked with Kylie in 2004 and they came up with something really fresh and different for her.


They were at the peak of their powers definitely. Also I loved the Kylie single that was new that week. I seem to be one of the few fans who loved 'Body Language' when that came out!

Posted by: T Boy 4th July 2019, 05:37 PM

Burn is definitely the better song but both are average.

Posted by: Bré 4th July 2019, 05:39 PM

QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Jul 4 2019, 06:22 PM) *
Sorry but where did I suggest that he wasn't relevant beyond 2004? I was just stating what one of the trends was that year, which he was part of with two number ones. Don't start putting words in my mouth please.


QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Jul 4 2019, 05:11 PM) *
this only got to #1 because it was in that weird time when people stopped buying CD singles in the same quantities they did and gravitated like sheep by default to US R&B and hip hop because it was the in thing


My point is the fact that he was still having huge hits for a full decade after this is probably a pretty good indication that this isn't true.

Posted by: dobbo 4th July 2019, 06:16 PM

The Show is decent but Burn is one of Usher's bests and up there with the best of 2004.

Yeah! is so overrated and ridiculously overplayed - can't hit the skip button quickly enough...

Posted by: ElectroBoy 4th July 2019, 06:37 PM

Love The Show

Posted by: Jordan Lee 4th July 2019, 06:45 PM

Burn for me.

That era of Usher is one of my favourites Male eras ever.

Im also a fan of Girls Aloud but not so much that song.

Posted by: Mack. 4th July 2019, 09:35 PM

Would be 'Burn' for me out of the two. Up there with Usher's best.


Posted by: Jay ☆ 5th July 2019, 02:48 AM

The Show of course! wub.gif Their lead in the poll *.*

Posted by: vibe 5th July 2019, 05:13 AM

Easily Burn

What were blue thinking releasing that turd !!

Posted by: andibob 5th July 2019, 06:19 AM

The Show. No contest. Girls Aloud were peak pop. Burn is the least memorable of the songs that beat Girls Aloud to #1 during their string of #2s.

Posted by: gavindeejay 5th July 2019, 06:41 AM

Both aren't tracks either artists are well remembered for but for me both tick the nostalgia box and I liked them both, but I went for Girls Aloud as I think I'd be more likely to listen to 'The Show' rather than 'Burn'

Ushers 'Confessions' era on the other hand did give us some great tracks including 'Yeah' and the excellent 'Caught Up'.

Posted by: Bjork 5th July 2019, 06:59 AM

Usher was always more popular in the US and he really peaked in this era
as he got 4 numero #1s in a row with Yeah-Burn-Confessions-My Boo

Posted by: dobbo 5th July 2019, 08:06 AM

And spent more than half that year at the top of the billboard^ even Ed Sheeran would struggle to do that here...

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 5th July 2019, 08:26 AM

Oh God, I could have done without being reminded of 'My Boo's existence.

'Caught Up' was a pretty good tune.

Posted by: davidas 5th July 2019, 08:56 AM

I vote Kylie

Posted by: Bjork 5th July 2019, 08:58 AM

you don't like my boo???? love it myself but Im a big Alicia Keys fan

Posted by: coi 9th July 2019, 10:10 AM

I've gone for Usher, Burn was one of his better tracks. Also appreciation for the 22-20s (not '20-20s' as that post says! laugh.gif) track in the new entries!

Posted by: pippa 9th July 2019, 03:34 PM

Easily Girls Aloud.

Posted by: JosephAvery 9th July 2019, 03:46 PM

Burn is solid but it HAS to be The Show, a triumph of a pop song, always been a Girls Aloud highlight for me wub.gif

Posted by: Euphorique 9th July 2019, 06:58 PM

At the time I'd easily have voted for Burn, but now I give The Show an advantage.

Still, Burn is far better than the overrated Yeah. I liked that one for a couple of weeks and then radio overplayed it so much that it still annoys me to this day

Posted by: Jonjo 9th July 2019, 07:00 PM

Burn wub.gif wub.gif

Love both though!

Posted by: Steve201 9th July 2019, 09:31 PM

Went for Burn myself, can't really remember The show at all. George Michael should have claimed the no1 with the brillant Flawless though, what a bop!

Posted by: Supercell 10th July 2019, 09:27 AM

I prefer Burn over The Show, the latter of which I personally found rather irritating at the time. Although looking at that Top 10 McFLY was by far my favourite at the time, they pretty much summed up the summer of 04 for me.

Posted by: ThePensmith 10th July 2019, 10:57 AM

QUOTE(Supercell @ Jul 10 2019, 10:27 AM) *
I prefer Burn over The Show, the latter of which I personally found rather irritating at the time. Although looking at that Top 10 McFLY was by far my favourite at the time, they pretty much summed up the summer of 04 for me.


I was gonna say I loved 'Obviously', for me the best number one of that year after 'Toxic'. I find it hard to believe that first album of theirs was 15 years ago but still such a fantastic pop album.

Posted by: Supercell 10th July 2019, 06:20 PM

QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Jul 10 2019, 11:57 AM) *
I was gonna say I loved 'Obviously', for me the best number one of that year after 'Toxic'. I find it hard to believe that first album of theirs was 15 years ago but still such a fantastic pop album.


Ah Five colours was my fave no1 of that year by a mile. Loved their debut album, still one of my all time favourites, very underrated pop group imho.

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