A new reality show from Channel 4 presented by Maya Jama and Alice Levine, a bit like a realised episode of Black Mirror! It features people living in apartments on their own, but the only way they interact with each other is through social media, so the game I suppose is constructing yourself properly and putting yourself across in a way that others like and want to be around. As a psychology graduate I'm really interested in things like this, especially as social media is really changing the way that we interact with others, process things and react to things, so I'm definitely going to give this a look. I think it's got real potential as a reality game show format, it'll be interesting to see how people twist their lives and present themselves in this setting where they can filter out anything they want and only put forward their best self, who'll be themselves and who will make up a totally fake persona and perhaps risk things a bit.
I've seen the advert loads of times, but I have no idea what it's actually like.
I'm interested in seeing this. Plus two presenters I love are presenting it *.*
This looks intriguing! Great to see Alice Levine getting higher profile presenting gig.
However, not sure I’ll get the chance to watch with Big Brother!
I think I’ll give this a shot tbh looks interesting
I had read a few things about this show and decided i will be giving it a look to see if it is worth following.
It low key sounds like watching a Twitter Big Brother game. I don't know if it'll be that interesting personally.
Omg those Twitter Big Brother things are the most tragic things ever, it can't be THAT bad
I'm really looking forward to this tonight!
Me too, as a psych grad I'm really interested in the ways people are using social media differently to face to face interactions and how it is changing how we interact, it's a really interesting way to go about a new reality property in 2018. The way they haven't revealed a lot about it other than the vague premise is really intriguing, I have no idea how it's going to work but I kinda love that we're going into the launch of this more or less blind other than knowing the contestants.
It's a shame it clashes with BB season but I'll just watch it on +1 on those days!
Might give this a watch. They’ve released the contestants taking part and turns out I know one of them
I already hate Jennifer
Interesting strategy there..
What's this like then? TV is being hogged by football atm so I can't watch, but Twitter doesn't sound very impressed by it all?
Jury's out for me, I love the concept and the contestants are all interesting but I really struggle to see how it's going to hold up being on every night for 3 weeks. With BB or Love Island for example they can just do a task if not much is going on and that fuels things until the next elimination, they are going to give each other ratings though now and Maya and Alice just said if someone gets "blocked" (ie voted off) then others go in so I guess that keeps things fresh. I think it might take a few days to kick off before people start arguing and trying to figure each other out and pick holes in who might be fake, that's when it'll be really interesting.
Stanning Genelle bringing her baby *.*
I am most interested in the guy who is pretending to be his gf. Interested in how he can remain safe.
Couldn't last 20 minutes Awful.
I have 0 idea what's going on but I'm kinda hooked because of that! The ones who are actually playing it are making it so interesting.
Jennifer literally strikes me as over the top Facebook mum. She's going to be gone first, calling it now.
I had to laugh at her hating social media but being a digital marketing manager, surely that involves a lot of social media? I'm wondering if she faked hating social media or really played it up so she'd be one of the archetype "anti x" contestants, a bit like when BB would often get people who'd say they don't watch TV or had never seen Big Brother... Faking to get on the show is a classic move.
Well this was absolutely tragic. As I expected, this won't do well or be interesting at all.
I like Sian, Genelle and Dan though from what I saw. Freddie is an absolute nightmare.
It's a very intriguing concept, but yeah I'm struggling to see how this is going to remain interesting for the three weeks. I felt the idea of them going to the hangout was completely pointless too. I get that it obviously sparks different kinds of chats between them (in this case a catfish love interest), but hmm...
Freddie is so loud, but I can't help liking him. Going to give this a shot to see where things go, because this is inevitably going to be TRAGIC for Mitchell if things go any further between him and 'Kate'.
It definitely has potential I think, but I can’t see the ratings being very high for this, especially in a 10pm slot against Big Brother (lol).
I think it might have been better to have this maybe twice weekly even, and then maybe they could have daily updates on All4 or on the app something if you did want to see more. The format has a lot of potential but it's piling too much on it right now to have it fill 3 weeks of a schedule. The casual viewer or person interested in the concept probably isn't going to want to watch every night at 10pm and those like us who are interested in reality TV are mostly going to prioritise BB (I certainly am), but I think there'd be a lot of a scope if they spread it out a bit more and had it weekly with less pressure, otherwise the ratings are going to bomb I'd have thought towards the end of this week unless they've got something fun up their sleeves but I really can't see what that would be
This launched with 1m
Incredibly poor ratings and Channel 4 will not be happy with that at all.
Oh dear, it's only going to get worse too That's abysmal with how much promo there was plus a Bake Off lead in! As I said it's definitely a mistake to have it daily as it's only going to burn out more. It's a shame that such an interesting format isn't going to work but it's definitely too much too soon.
It’s on at 10pm from now on too!!
Channel 4 should have stayed with Big Brother.
That said, i have recorded the Circle and will be watching it later as the format interested me.
I have watched two episodes it's ok but very drawn out,Freddie is horrific though and I wanted him to go.
So I just watched the second episode. The right person left I felt. That's a hard lie to sell and I felt she was out of her depth a bit.
Just 400k watched last night LMAO!!
Eek, will probably go down as one of biggest TV flops.
It’ll have to quickly build up it’s audience otherwise I’d be surprised if it stays on for the full intended run.
Eek at the ratings
Christ at these ratings, it's really a shame because I love the concept and the bits of the game are interesting am still going to watch for now but it really is a colossal flop given the push they gave it, the cost it must ensue (like the advertising push, having the building, their food etc.), I doubt it is worth taking up 3 weeks of Channel 4's schedule. Whilst BB is obviously dying, with it being the last series the reality TV crowd who *would* be interested in this are going to prioritise BB and maybe watch this on catch up or +1 (as I did). And when it's a new format like this that needs to build up hype and get an audience, it can't really afford that. I agree I can't see it staying on for the 3 weeks unless it builds up an audience or retains it. Otherwise how far will it fall, I dread to think It is a bit drawn out but I am still interested to see where it goes, I am liking the second guessing each other and the actual GAME is really interesting, I just think they should have maybe thought about how it is executed a bit more. The actual episodes so far have been a bit bloated with quite boring chit chat, and then there are 6 of them a week too which is a LOT of bloating to get to the interesting bits like the "influencers" and blockings. The discussions on politics and gender weren't really that interesting either tbh especially with half of them not even understanding... I think it could maybe just be half an hour episodes and only have one or two a week, it'd be just fine, but they're trying to bloat it right out with all this inane stuff and it just isn't the same as say Big Brother where they're all in each other's space and arguments happen a lot easier.
Just watched last night's, ngl Freddie is putting me off a lot more than anything about the format He's thick as shit, obnoxiously loud and playing at the most basic level with not much effort. Hopefully he gets blocked soon. No surprise at this blocking tbh, she was never gonna keep that up and didn't even really try to actually build it up and maintain a character as much as "Kate" is for example. She came across so unlikeable too and I can imagine she gave that impression on the platform too!
I'm so sad this is flopping, I'm already addicted.
I legit can't wait to see who she goes to visit!!!!
Also in love with 'Kate'
Just watched the first episode and enjoyed it. Its a good concept and there was enough there to keep me interested.
Shame about the ratings... but its overnights rather than the final ratings. 0.4K is low though.
On to episode 2.
The voiceover woman is awful though
It really is a shame to see this flopping, because it is such an interesting concept (maybe not executed as well as it could be) and I'm already hooked.
Last night's blocking wasn't exactly unexpected. Glad she's gone considering she backtracked on her game plan so quickly too. I'm also quite surprised that they all seem to think Mitchell's gay though? There's a few things Freddie's said in chats etc that haven't exactly been subtle.
I hope Freddie is next to be blocked, he's REALLY having me wanting to turn off
Mitchell is hot af tho
EDIT: scratch that Christ he is making me cringe to death with Aiden :/ This isn't Love Island hun x
I'm actually getting more hooked as the episodes go on, it's kinda shit but I'm so wanting to see how things go. Tbh I like Sinead much more as herself but I'm so intrigued to see how the hell she's going to keep up lying that she's a 65 year old grandad.
Is this really just a show about catfishing people?
I like how Dan automatically assumes that the 65 year-old man is a catfish, but none of the very pretty girls he's been talking to.
It was such a sweet moment when Jennifer and Genelle met each other. Mitchell definitely needs to be blocked next, although I doubt that'll happen. I feel like if Dan's one of the influencers again he might want to block Genelle.
I really hope they twig with Freddie, he's playing a terrible game just latching onto the most basic and overwrought "lad" characteristics, I'm hoping that while Dan and Mitchell are "lads" and are so focused on girls and a bit stereotypical, they'll realise Freddie is a bit much. It just seems so obvious, I know it's obvious when we're watching the camp guy speaking into the app but the way he acts on there, as said!
Hopefully "Christopher" can get Influencer, I can see Sinead being kinda ruthless and I'm here for it, but that would blow up her game if she's meant to be a sweet old man
I am actually shocked they are not onto Freddie more they know he can be full on so im shocked they havent't thought he was gay.
Actually pretty shocked at the recent blocking! Well I can see their points but still.
I wonder if people who created this show had a focus group (if that's a thing still) consisting solely of teenagers who were just fed youngster terms like catfish, DM, selfie and blocking. The premise looks good but does it capture attention of the latter half of the 18-45 viewer segment?
Too bad they went old school with the format and airing too. No wonder it's flopping. In 10-15 years this probably would be a success.
I'm living for Alex having all the guys eating out of the palm of his hand as Kate
Freddie's reaction to being last Really hope next time "Kate" is influencer she manages to get Freddie out. He's absolutely insufferable, "what am I doing wrong" everything hun lmao.
Lmao he says he doesn't want to be known as the gay best friend but that would have been a good strategy lmao?
Freddie definitely would have fared a lot better than he is at the moment had he just gone in and been himself!
I've just caught up on Friday's episode, and I'm honestly not surprised at that blocking. I thought Alex/Kate might have stopped it from happening, but Sian proving to be the most level-headed and not just keeping her friends *.*
Dan's ego needs knocking down a peg or two as well, he's pretty insufferable at the moment. They all seem to have a problem with Genelle too, but I'm hoping she manages to survive at least the next blocking if Freddie's the next target.
Dead at Little Mix causing carnage in tonight's ep. Icons.
I thought this show would be a hot mess and only watched initially out curiosity, but it's oddly compelling. This + BB are actually the highlight of my nights right now. Actually liking all the contestants so far too (Freddie seems an awful person, but he's admittedly quite hilarious).
Sian can go after Freddie, I can't at "playing a game" being an insult when that's literally what this show is... You SHOULD have a plan and something to do, she's the Circle equivalent of those boring BB housemates who stay because it's vote to evict and they aren't doing anything, her along with Dan aren't really taking the risks and playing it as hard, so they run less risk of being targeted and are just less entertaining, but I do like Dan a fair but he seems a decent bloke just not that entertaining compared to Alex/Kate really playing it.I know it just depends on who you are and some might prefer to be safer rather than caught in a lie, but I have more respect for their game if they actually try and take the risk because that's the whole point. It would be boring if it was just 8 Dans or Sians or Aidens in there :/
The format is so addictive though I agree, at first I was like hmm this is shite and objectively it kinda is but every day there seems to be either a blocking, new person or the ones who are caught in a lie and you have to roll over to the next day and see what happens It was a bit slow for a couple of days but I think it's really getting off the ground now, it's quite an easy watch but it's meaty enough to be addictive and really get into the game.
EDIT: Omg I've just finished yday's episode and I'm here for Ryan catching out Freddie, PLEASE *.*
That cliffhanger
I'm a bit gutted that Freddie and Genelle didn't just outnumber Dan and get rid of Kate there. I really liked Sinead, but I guess as Christopher there was nothing too interesting there (I do still find it weird though that they don't think a 65 year old would know who Little Mix are... I feel like my grandparents, in their seventies, would ). Not surprised to see Aiden blocked too as she wasn't exactly the biggest personality in there.
I'm hoping Ryan proves popular enough to become an influencer and get rid of Alex/Kate. He went in hard on Sinead, so I hope he finds a way to catch Alex out.
Ughhh Freddie as influencer I've got a bad feeling he could win this, they just don't seem to be cottoning onto him. Yas Genelle joint second though, definitely my favourite, she's not playing the most insanely interesting game but she's so likeable. Alex is playing the most interesting game I think.
I'm not that fussed on the blockings today, I really like Sinead as herself tbh but as Christopher she just doesn't seem to have really thought it through. Like with say Freddie or Alex/Kate, they seem to know what to respond pretty quickly like when the latter had the book about make-up and the former just seems to know what to say to fit in as a straight "lad", whereas Sinead was giving the most basic answers so it did just make it feel like she was going off the bare minimum she remembered her grandad telling her that was in the back of the brain, if you are going to be such an opposite character you'd have to commit a bit more. Aiden was inconsequential really, as she's just being herself and isn't really that fun or likeable, plus she seemed to just be stuck on Mitchell and then didn't really bother with others as much so she was a bit f***ed as Mitchell just went and she didn't have a chance to right her wrongs.
Probably but Sian is too dim to make a move on it tbh I'm intrigued a lot by Ryan so I hope that he unearths a lot of it and uses his suspicions as so far he seems like the sort who will play hard despite playing as himself.
Yeah I've got a feeling Freddie may win it... But agreed how the heck does Sian not realise Freddie is a gay best friend. Calling her bestie etc.
The ending though with Aiden going in to see Kate/ Alex.
This is so much better than Big Brother!
Wow, I love this!
Sinead was nice, but played a pretty shite game, you can't be unprepared here + why would any show cast you if you're boring af? Just becase you're 65? The others were right, she should've prepared with shtloads of stories and should've become buddies at least with the guys. She played a 65-year-old how a teenager sees one, not like a fairly active 65-year-old sees himself, which was a big mistake. She could've studied Kevin from Big Brother US, now that's a valid 60+ character, okay, a bit Boston-edition, but still (not that I'm fan, but he had a personality, at least).
On the other hand, Alex is well-prepared, her Kate started out as perfect, but now it's the second episode in a row where he loses his temper and with that, his 'Kate' too. I wouldn't be surprised if that would be his downfall shortly.
The cliff was priceless, but why didn't Sinead have this 'visiting' opportunity like everyone else?
Can't wait for this eve's episode and how the Aiden/ Alex (Kate) chat will go
I think it could help his game actually
I actually think that like Love Island, it isn't bound by day x and day y and therefore the episodes can be edited in a way to build towards something happening.
Big Brother is bound by its format in the UK to its detriment IMO. The US version has an event each episode that is build towards; Eviction, Noms and Veto. The Circle has cliffhangers with new players and the rumblings when there is a blocking. Love Island too builds towards new people coming in or recouplings/ dumpings. However Big Brother is just a days events and if nothing has happened then you're kind of screwed.
Really I think if Big Brother in this country is to evolve it needs to adapt as it feels slow compared to most reality shows now. I guess they're trying this year to keep attention with the coins and the veto etc but really its too little to late. They should've put these changes in place 3-4 years ago when they kept saying the game is changing, when it didn't at all.
[majority of that is probably for another thread though )
True, when people are shifting towards things like TOWIE/Ex/Geordie Shore I think things like this are needed, it is malleable like Love Island (I agree with that, my initial point was just that you know what's happening roughly because it's a format that's established), say if there was a really good dynamic between a group and a few on the verge of being rumbled they could just hold back a blocking for a couple of days and let things happen, whereas as you say on Big Brother there's got to be an eviction on whichever day because it's such an established format that it's kind of rigging or fixing it if they were to change it too much.
That's not to say I'm not really enjoying BB this series more than I have in years which is a separate point but that's a valid point about the future of reality TV and where it is probably going for sure.
OMG They get a message from 'Christopher' this eve
https://twitter.com/C4TheCircle/status/1044602432645402625
As an aside... is the mark on Freddie's side his mic, a mole or a tattoo?
Everytime he is shirtless (or naked) as per yesterdays episode, I keep trying to see what it is
Jesus these two newbies......... Neither of them are even playing it well or seem that interesting, both like BB rejects who'd be out week 2
Less of this who fancies who shite too please, I do love that they keep adding people after blockings though because it keeps dynamics shifting and everyone has to be on their toes.
Can't say I'm keen on either of the two new ones. Also getting a bit tired of them all taking the romance approach when they go in now. I understand that they might think going in, seeing who they're attracted to and building an alliance with that person based on romantic interest will be advantageous... but only with that one person. We saw what happened with Aiden and Mitchell and they're both gone now, so it's clearly not the best strategy.
So I watched the last two episodes and ep 6... I kind of expected it would be both Sinead and Aiden. Both nice girls but I agreed with the reasons why they were blocked. Aiden's face seeing Alex was PRICELESS.
On to ep 7. Meh wasn't here for the two newbies either. Can see them going first chance they are up.
Yeah not really liking the 2 newbies and the other new psychic guy i'm not feeling. But then I hate Farage and UKIP.
I can definitely see the newbies being the ones to go in the next ratings.
I think I like the two newbies, I'd hate them irl but they're good TV. It's nice to see Genelle doing something entertaining, loved the virtual bitchfight. I really hoped tho that at least one of the newbies will be a new Kate, too many awful but real people in the cirlcle now.
Oh yeah Ryan is a knob He could probably be a target too soon enough as thankfully none of them shared his views, I could see Alex, Genelle and Dan targeting him for that. People can say all they want that it's "just politics" but I think when you know as little about each other as someone does after a day or two on a social media platform, that would really ring alarm bells for me as to what a person was like.
I totally agree there's too many real people in there too, I think Dan and Genelle fit that type just fine (and at least Genelle has her secret baby). I know we have to have some of those to compare to the catfishes but it was so much more interesting watching Sinead trying to keep up being her grandad and it's so much more interesting watching Alex on the verge of getting caught out as Kate and having to be on his toes. There's nowhere near as much fun in watching a futuristic episode of a Poundland Love Island.
Haven't seen this, just to ask is it worth watching?
Definitely! I don't always buy the whole "never talk about politics or religion" thing because I love a good discussion, but that statement is one to live by with new people, rookie mistake when you have opinions as extreme as loving UKIP.
Omg just caught up and I'm screaming at Genelle and Dan dragging Ryan The episode was a bit dull but it got there at the end *.*
Freddie is an odious twat, the slightest hint of anyone playing the game sets him off to 11 even though he is too It's not even good TV tbh he's just loud, obnoxious and a really quite nasty person, hopefully him getting mouthy puts a target on his back because whilst he is bringing drama I suppose he is kind of putting me off of the show in general :/
I'm actually finding myself disliking Genelle after tonight's episode, unfortunately. Last night was the beginning of it - the whole 'romance' with Dan that came from absolutely nowhere (which is also completely one-sided on her part), and now tonight it seemed like she was just latching onto anything and everything that Dan said in group chats, hoping that if she agrees it'll win her some popularity within the group. The trio of her, Dan and Kate are unbearable. Dan's been incredibly loathsome to watch.
That said, the last half of tonight's episode was certainly eventful. Glad to see Kate came out on top for most annoying / snakiest *.* At this point, I'm really backing Sian and hoping she can hang on longer than the likes of Dan/Genelle/Kate
OMFG THE DRAMA OF IT ALL!!!! I literally gasped at some of Freddie's comebacks, they were savage (although still baffled at how they think he is straight still!
This rated just 378k last night
One of tonight's departures:
Genelle left due to recurring migraines
Freddie is so so vile, there's playing the game and just being actually a really nasty person. He's pretty much the stereotype of nasty, self centred bitchy gays. Alex's "keyboard warrior" confession thing was accurate, he's so much like the ones you come across on stan Twitter. I pray he goes tonight but whilst he's got beef and is in more danger than before, there's still the Scotty/Hannah who are actually eligible plus Ryan, so he'll be fine. Scotty is awful too, really arrogant and up himself, agreed that he would let things just burn and pour petrol on the flame just to save his own skin and keep his tough lad bad boy image, because he knows he's "fit" and girls will fall over him anyway.
Tbh the only ones I'm actually liking are Dan and "Kate", but I'm still just loving this game and how it transpires when all the shit has been going down It's one of those formats where you don't necessarily have to love everyone there, it's just interesting regardless. It's really putting me off that Freddie is still there though I'm hoping the new catfish is an interesting one and not a kamikaze like Sinead/Christopher who blows it up after barely a couple of days.
Omg I'm already kind of loving Mairead but I'm unsure she will manage to keep it together
SCREAMING at them using Alex's actual picture in the challenge against Freddie!!!!!!!!!
I'm loving mairead allready.
Oh, I'm so happy that Dan and 'Kate' are still in, hope they can recruit Mairead and get rid of Ryan or Freddie (although Alex basic-ing Mairead's profile pic is not the best start).
I'm going to sht myself when Alex visits Dan with a knock-knock joke #factsarefacts
I'm so glad y'all are hating on Freddy, VILE in the extreme. I also hate Ryan and his made up psychic sixth sense BOLLOCKS. Otherwise I am surprisingly loving this, Dan and Kate/Alex are both really nice and it's been essential viewing so far.
Dan and Kate (and Genelle until she left) are easily my favourites, I'm glad its an opinion shared by the majority!
I love the show but am I the only that is bothered that the presenters Alice and Maya have barely been in it.
Just watching last night's and Mairead is making me HOWL "lucky chicken"
Sian or Freddie will win and I cba Sian is thick as shit and just a bit of a bitch and Freddie is ofc vile as I've been saying every post A part of me dies every time Sian harps on about "playing a game" as if it's the worst thing ever. That's the whole bloody point you're in there for £50k, you're all playing a game.......
Freddie is a turd in human form and Sian is boring as f***. Of course one of them will win.
Alice and Maya are apparently returning for the live final, but yeah it does seem pointless having them at all if they're not even making an appearance say, every few episodes / once a week.
Hadn't watched this since Thursday, but I'm caught up now. LOVE Mairead, most of the things she comes away with are absolutely hilarious. Still finding it really difficult to take to Dan or Alex at all, although the latter's actually not been so bad in recent episodes. Sian's still my favourite at the moment, she's just a really down to earth girl and brings light relief / entertainment, she's certainly nowhere near as boring as the likes of Aiden.
HELLO @ Harry though, they saved the best for last *.*
I think Sian will win - she is on side with basically every player in there. Freddie only really has strong support from Sian and Scotty. Although it depends how its done.
If we as viewers vote for the winner then it will probably be different to if it was done on ratings. What would be good actually is if we as viewers all rate the players into one big rating.
The player with the highest rating from the viewers etc is the winner
I can imagine it still being them choosing the winner, it would kind of defeat the whole purpose of the game if it wasn't about getting to the end with everyone behind you wanting you to win, the game is supposed to be about who is popular in The Circle and how they get there. Obviously we see everything so can vote on not just the happenings of The Circle which isn't really the point of the game, when they have made sure the whole game is so structured and focused on only The Circle it would be a bit odd for us to vote based on having seen everything and knowing who is real and who isn't.
Yeah true - I just hope Freddie doesn’t win!!! Although if Scotty and Sian make the final with him it’s a massive possibility
Just caught up on yesterday, Harry *.* Yes please. Precious seems great too, she seems like she has her head screwed on, and Mairead is actually giving me life, she's the sort of hilarious catfish the show needs
Loving Harry cottoning onto Freddie lying, I hope him or Sian go next so the other has to face the rest of the game alone and not have each other to buoy each other up, they're by far my two least faves anyway.
Mairead Gutted about that result tonight, although Dan's face at the end when she opened the door was priceless!
As iconic as Mairead is, she definitely was getting a bit heavy-handed with the flirting. If she'd toned it down a bit it almost definitely would've been Scotty blocked instead, which would've been pretty inconsequential. He'll probably be next to go anyway.
Finding Precious pretty tedious to watch too. She probably could have been quite an interesting character, but instead she's just latching onto Scotty, and with little game plan besides awkward flirting / sexting.
I can't see Precious lasting long - tedious in the extreme and When the next ratings happen I can see Sian gunning for her (assuming she stays in the top 2)
Freddie gets worse by the episode; actually horrific so funny Harry is questioning him
Best case scenario for the next rating would be Dan and Harry as influencers. They’d turf Freddie out, I reckon.
Sian always backing Freddie makes her come across as really thick.
Sian is very much like one of those Big Brother contestants who coasts to the end because nobody really ever nominates her and did very little to deserve being in there, or someone who'd go in Love Island on a Monday and be gone in Friday's dumping having had 2 minutes of airtime because nobody bothering to pick her
I think in a game like this that's probably a solid way to go about at least getting pretty far, but she just seems so thick and like she hasn't really done a lot to deserve winning. Always being like "Freddie is sooo jokes!1!1!1" when he is nasty af about people is quite telling. I can't really see past her winning unless we vote and even then I'd have no idea how it'd go, I can see it just being a rating to win or something as otherwise that'd be changing the whole game and kind of make the whole thing pointless because obviously we know everything so it's not just based on the game inside The Circle.
Fingers crossed Harry plays it well and doesn't go in all guns blazing over Freddie or he's going to have the curse of the newbie and get shoved straight out, if he gets in with Dan and "Kate" for example and he's influencer with Dan, Freddie could actually be gone.
Dan shirtless on last night's ep tho *.*
Caught up on last night's and ngl it's getting a bit boring that the women are all SO desperate for which guy likes them, like Freddie is an awful awful person but at least if he won he did something to deserve it. It's really getting boring that Sian and now Precious seem to think that they're on Love Island scrambling for any guy who'll give them a bit of attention.
The only thing I’m struggling with at the moment is how it only takes one look at Freddie’s profile for Harry to work out that he doesn’t look straight, yet the rest of them haven’t batted an eyelid. Fair enough you can’t judge a book by its cover, but you’d think, considering she’s closest to him in there, at least Sian would be a bit more switched on...
The way Freddie and Sian interact is so gay best friend too, calling her bestie all the time
I know it's easy to say when we see actual Freddie on screen acting the way he does but I'm surprised it hasn't rang alarm bells that he's acting *too* straight almost, like forcing himself right into the character, like instead of it just being lke "she's fit" he goes way OTT to really consolidate the fact he is gay, if it was me and I knew I was on the show to win money and there might be people lying to do so, I'd be suspicious for sure (probably paranoid af about everyone).
I'm sure Precious will be the next to go... although I'm sure Kate is going to go before the end, there's only so long Alex can keep it up and Mairead raising her suspicions to Dan may be the nail in her blocking
I’m surprised no ones found it odd that Freddie ‘loves the ladies’ but hasn’t tried it on with ANY girl in the game at all. If he was as much a ‘lad’ as he claims to be, why isn’t he flirting with Sian instead of settling for ‘bestie’. Why hasn’t anyone picked up on that?
I think I'm kinda glad this is ending now, the format is still really interesting and it heated up a lot and got addictive but it's getting really predictable and Sian is annoying me almost as much as Freddie by being SUCH an utter bore, yet I can't see past her winning (depends how they do it, but I imagine it's just going to be a rating again), so it feels like there's little point to these last couple of episodes This super-influencer thing could be really interesting if it wasn't so obvious it'll be her and she'll block Alex/Kate, who has admittedly cooled down too much on the game front and has coasted a bit as he is for a fair while, he's been pretty lucky that Sian has never been influencer with Freddie so Dan has always been able to step in and save him.
As much as I hate Freddie, he's the only one who's really doing anything in terms of the game, but even then there are huge holes in his game and it's baffling that they haven't been spotted, his bio is an excellent example. He is saying what he *thinks* are the right things but it is the sort of stuff people say sarcastically to mock these kinds of lads, plus he isn't really taking action whereas you see basically every guy who's gone in there fawning over Sian, Hannah etc. at some point. I can't believe it took this long for someone to see it and it's a newbie with no chance! Idk if Sian does see it and just doesn't really care to challenge him because she's not fussed as long as she has her "bestie" and a boy to fawn over on the side... I know it's really easy to say when they only see his words written, but it comes off like when we had an alias thing on here and I tried to be some awful lad character with all the cliches which was so transparent I think they're all probably too busy fawning over the next love target to care apart from Kate/Alex and idk what his excuse but as I said he's really taken his eye off the ball.
I think I'm just disappointed mostly that this could be such a great social experiment, and it mostly was, I loved the headf*** and games of the first week or two where there was paranoia and they were all trying to figure each other out, I think they've got comfortable and complacent and feel more safe so that's gone and as of late it's verging a bit too much into Love Island sort of territory, who fancies who and arguing over it, not helped by adding newbies like Precious, Hannah and Scotty who feel like rejects of Love Island and have added nothing apart from arguing over "romances" (or lack of, just boring flirting). Now I don't mean that in a derogatory way because LI is great, but it does what it does so well that other shows sort of verge into it a bit much and lose what they're about. I mean there's £50,000 at stake, I wish more of them were really ruthless with it and played the game rather than treating it like a little holiday apartment. Anyone who has had a bit of a fire or has played something apart from Freddie and Kate/Alex have been blocked (and even then the latter has really dipped in terms of game). Idk it might just be me with this gripe but it could be such a good ruthless, strategic gameshow and shed light on how we interact on social media but it's just gone a bit... trashy for want of a better word. This can be a problem with a lot of reality series, casting the wrong people who when it gets down to it don't really play the game at hand and towards the end it can dry up a bit as a result. I know they've angled it a bit towards "catfishing" which tends to be a dating thing so I suppose I should've seen the signs, idk if they necessarily knew what they wanted it to be exactly (hence the lack of info pre-launch, although they could have been so the air of mystery made people tune in) and it could have gone either way and this is how it's evolved, I'm just a bit disappointed generally in these past few days so it's a weak end to a solid oddly addicting series on the whole.
I am keeping at it though, given that it's the last couple of episodes and the finale should be really interesting as I have no idea how they'll do it, will it be like a "jury" of the blocked contestants balancing their experience in The Circle with what's been on TV, or the top 3 or 4 left in the final, rating each other, or whatever else? I can't imagine it being a public vote as that would go against the whole game and the way it's been so far, I have no idea how it'll go so I'm interested to see and will actually for once put this ahead of BB as it's the live final
I can't see Sian blocking Kate if she is the super influencer to be honest. She's constantly said that they've built bridges and have become friends, so I think the only person I could see her blocking is Scotty (or maybe Harry if she doesn't feel as close to him as some of the others)? If Freddie was, by some miracle, the influencer it'd definitely be Dan or Kate gone because as you say he does seem to be focusing solely on his game plan now and how he's coming across to the rest of the group, but given his recent ratings I doubt it'll be him.
I'm just glad Precious is gone. Causing drama with Sian over the name of a bloody yoga position...
Really looking forward to tomorrow's episode either way though! *.*
As well as the winner of the £50,000, there'll be a vote for the public's favourite who gets £25,000 as announced on Instagram! They also said "the players will pick the winner", idk if that means the ones who are left (I assume the top 4 as someone will probably be blocked on Sunday) or the ones who've always been there, I assume the ones left (as that keeps the game as just what's in The Circle, the other ones will obv have gone home and watched) in which case I can't see past Sian unless there's some last minute coup for strategy in which Dan and Kate team up and conspire to give her 1 star rating
I think Sian will probably win the fan fave too ffs, her or Dan I imagine.
This beat Big Brother for the first time yesterday also! If they are to do a 2nd series, which I hope they do as it'd be even more of a great show with some bits ironed out, I hope they don't tell us the ratings every time and just say who's the influencer or maybe do it anonymously the whole time which would be interesting. It's gotten a bit predictable with Sian being influencer (or highest rated the time there was an instant blocking) pretty much every time for the past few. It might add a new element to the game and some paranoia or suspicion if it was always like the super influencer thing, and that headf*** is what I've enjoyed about this show most so I'd love more of that.
Just caught up on yesterday and SHOOT ME but I think I wouldn't be opposed if Freddie were to win now?! He's been really irritating and horrible at points but when you look at it, he's the only one who's really pushed for the win this whole time and done what he has to do (even if he's got some holes in his plan, it's his luck that the others don't notice them ).
Scotty and Freddie's meeting was lovely too <3
I wonder if this will get renewed?
It's only rating 350-750k in the overnights (which is terrible for C4!) and loses to Big Brother every single night, but 35% of its viewers come from the 16-32 year old demographic which is what they're aiming for?
My guess is that it will get renewed, but it will move to E4.
I can't really see past Sian winning at this point either unless she is blindsided by Kate and Dan (Dan would definitely team up with Kate before Sian, surely?). If not, I feel like it'd be great to see Kate win as Alex has pretty much played the game perfectly. Unless Dan gets blocked and isn't there to defend him, I feel like any suspicions he has about Kate are always going to be sidelined for how he 'feels'.
Knew Harry was going to end up getting blocked. Gutted for him since a final of him, Sian, Dan and Kate would have been great, but at least he went to see Freddie and confirmed his suspicions.
At this stage I'll be happy with any of Sian, Dan or Alex/Kate winning as they're all genuinely nice people. With Harry tonight, Freddie was a lot like he was with Kate when he wouldn't stop going on about her or making jibes/vile comments about her. He's played a good game to get as far as he has, but for the person that he is there are others that deserve it a lot more.
Really predictable blocking, I wish at this point they'd have been a bit more ruthless and all rate Sian or Freddie down and get out some competition. Harry was never going to win or anything.
Looking on another forum this beat BB last night too - seems to be steadily building up its support. I guess as its near the final time, but usually shows seem to tail off viewership. This seems to be doing the opposite.
Hope it gets a 2nd series. I guess also will be interesting to see if BB gets a slight bump up with the Circle no longer being in competition after this eve
It's retained viewers really well, didn't it drop to like 400k on its second episode? I know even its top ratings isn't exactly stellar for Channel 4, but considering it dropped from 1 million to that, it could have fallen to a much more embarrassing number, so the fact it's risen and is even beating BB is brilliant for it. I mean I kind of thought it was going to absolutely bomb after that and end up cancelled before it ended
Also not that it's going to become as big as Love Island by any means, but the first series of Love Island only averaged 600k across the series and look how that built! It may end up on E4 but it'd be interesting to see how it builds. Overnight ratings aren't the be all and end all for a show like this, it's a new format that needs the word of mouth and buzz and obviously if someone hears about it now, they can't contribute to that but can go and catch up. There's also a lot of social media buzz which helps.
Just catching up on yesterday and are they THAT thick to not realise that Sian is always top and would have been the super influencer? Ughhh she just gets on my tits so much.
Freddie is putting me off again with this too ffs.
Dan's face to Alex revealing himself He's coming across as a right idiot in this, knowing he signed up to this show and is just more worried that he didn't get a girl out of it like it was Love Island :')
Sian actually being around the others has made me warm to her immensely.
Sian did come across better there! Still think what she did in the show (or didn't lmao) doesn't deserve to win though. I'd put her above Dan now after that meeting though, at least she was like yeah it's a game and just got over it. I just think she came across quite thick and a bit of a sheep mostly. I'm sure she's a nice person irl but meh at her on the show.
Alex/Kate all the way for me, my fave since the start along with Genelle and I want him to win even more after that. His face seeing Millie, love is real after all
I’d love a Kate win. Dan has gone so far down in my estimations that I’d now go Kate, Sian, Freddie and Dan I’m that order.
Voted Kate/Alex on both my iPad and phone on the app yesterday and again tonight also! *.* Fingers crossed he at least gets the £25k!
Wouldn't it be ICONIC if like everyone gave low ratings but then Dan gave Kate a 5 and made Alex win
YESSSSSSSS OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!! My winner since day 1
Omg YAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS
OMGG THE PUBLIC WINNER AS WELL! I wish they revealed the ratings though, I feel like maybe they all did it tactically and then Dan gave Kate 5 which would be hilare
Amazing I am so happy at this, such a satisfying end, worth the boring bits at times Haven't felt like this over a winner of a reality show in recent years other than Isabelle in BB last yar tbh. Someone who actually tackled the game by risking being a catfish, but a thoroughly decent guy at the end of it all. Hopefully this encourages less Dan/Sians if we get a season 2
So happy with the double win!
Everyone's low rankings and then Dan giving Kate a 5 sealed.
So happy that He won and was the one I've wanted to win from the start
Best result on a RTV show for a fair while!
Also so glad Freddie didn’t win anything
Hope there’s a series 2!
Pleased for Alex as he does seem like a really genuine, down to earth person and pretty much played the game perfectly and stuck with the character throughout. I, too, am just glad Freddie didn't manage to win anything. His entrance/interview went right through me. Unbearable even to the bitter end.
I do wonder whether Dan actually did believe Kate was a catfish, or whether he was just going along with everybody else's instincts so he didn't look like too much of a blind fool? He said as many times that he'd made peace with the fact that she was probably a catfish and that he actually liked whoever was behind it, so I don't understand why you'd react the way he did when he finally met Alex?
Really hoping that we'll get a second series because this series was absolutely fantastic and had me hooked from start to finish.
So pleased for Kate!!
Well done to Kate/Alex, a double win which was deserved.
Kate/Alex deserved the win!!
The Circle lost to Big Brother in the ratings last night which is surprising
624k for BBUK and 615k for The Circle.
Netflix has got the rights to "local" versions of The Circle! Hopefully one is America or Australia so we get another English series *.*
I think its a good indication that people see milage in the format. With Netflix buying rights to make ones for other countries I think thats a good sign for a Series 2 of the UK version
I’m still not over Freddie not winning, I don’t get it, no one else was as entertaining.
It wasn't about being entertaining though, it was a social game, at least for the actual prize. Plus when he was as nasty and bitchy and two faced as he was, there's no wonder the public didn't vote for him either! I wouldn't have been mad if he won on balanced as he played the game, but as time went on it was obvious he wouldn't.
Been binging on this for the last week in Alll4.
Alex has been been my favourite person since the start but I think Sian deserves something for being rated so high throughout.
Hoping Harry pops up with very few clothes on in a gay mag soon. I fell in love with those amazing eyes.
The final rankings have been posted on their Instagram
Alex was first, Freddie 2nd, Sian 3rd and Dan 4th
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpAs1gWg7Lr/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=g7rh1w16jzax
Public vote % as well:
01 Alex 50.06%
02 Dan 24.72%
03 Sian 12.95%
04 Freddie 12.27%
Alex deservedly walking it *.* Sian 0.7 off being last
Surprised Sian was so low in the public vote.
But Alex won by a landslide!
Second Series for this confirmed on Instagram
#factsarefacts
Yayyyy
Yaaas, I'm glad it's getting another series as I can really see it taking off and coming into its own given a chance, initially the first series seemed like such a flop but it grew so nicely, I could low-key see it doing a mini Love Island.
Gives me an opportunity to actually watch then in this BBUK-free year!
It did rate similarly to Love Island S1, managing to grow towards the end in a similar way and there was a lot of social media buzz (as you would hope!!). It definitely sounds like a good idea to give it another chance to grow (especially with the format being sold overseas!) I feel a few significant changes arriving.
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