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Brett-Butler
post May 2 2019, 10:37 PM
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Results are starting to come in. Obviously it's early days, but one surprising result already - Ukip have gained a councillor in Sunderland from Labour. Given that I was expecting them to lose every seat, they've already beaten my expectations, worryingly.
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post May 2 2019, 11:04 PM
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The Tory spin machine is in full flow on the BBC with them claiming that the results four years ago were unusually good for them. They were good, but not spectacular.
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post May 2 2019, 11:33 PM
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And now we get Tory Bernard Jenkin thinking Tony Blair is still Labour leader
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post May 2 2019, 11:48 PM
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Is there anything more excruciating than watching Barry Gardiner try to spin bad Labour results. He makes me squirm.
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post May 2 2019, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(Harve @ May 3 2019, 12:48 AM) *
Is there anything more excruciating than watching Barry Gardiner try to spin bad Labour results. He makes me squirm.

One of the ways of guessing how well parties think they have done is their choice of spokespersons on the results programme. Labour's choice of Barry Gardiner and the Tories' choice of James "Notso" Cleverly suggest that neither party is expecting their results to be particularly good.
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post May 3 2019, 12:03 AM
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Interesting to see a lot of Independent gains so far.
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post May 3 2019, 12:20 AM
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why is barry gardiner
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post May 3 2019, 12:20 AM
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Sorry I don't think I'm gonna post about any of the actual results but rather Barry Gardiner continued awfulness. Hope that's cool.
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post May 3 2019, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(Harve @ May 3 2019, 01:20 AM) *
Sorry I don't think I'm gonna post about any of the actual results but rather Barry Gardiner continued awfulness. Hope that's cool.

Feel free laugh.gif
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post May 3 2019, 12:37 AM
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GB Remain parties ranked by how much they infuriate me:

Change UK
Labour
Lib Dems
Plaid
Greens
SNP

Is Barry Gardiner gonna be on the BBC all night long tho, cuz if so Labour might be even more painful than the CUK-TIG-Tigger mess.
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post May 3 2019, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(Harve @ May 3 2019, 01:37 AM) *
GB Remain parties ranked by how much they infuriate me:

Change UK
Labour
Lib Dems
Plaid
Greens
SNP

Is Barry Gardiner gonna be on the BBC all night long tho, cuz if so Labour might be even more painful than the CUK-TIG-Tigger mess.

They normally swap after a few hours, so I suspect he will be replaced eventually. Whether that proves to be an improvement remains to be seen.
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post May 3 2019, 01:30 AM
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The BBC need a new reporter in Portsmouth. He keeps saying nothing has changed, but the Lib Dems have replaced the Tories as the largest party. He obviously subscribes to the Theresa May definition of "Nothing has changed".
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post May 3 2019, 03:17 AM
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I think it might soon be time to get a bit of sleep. I've got a count to attend in the morning where I find out whether there has been such a huge political earthquake in Brighton and Hove that I've won.

The Lib Dems are doing pretty well although it has to be remembered that the result four years ago were spectacularly bad. The results in Chelmsford look particularly good.
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post May 3 2019, 03:38 AM
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Very encouraging for the Lib Dems at this stage, even gaining some council control, excellent. biggrin.gif I havenít caught any of the TV, but it seems like Conservatives and Labour are both being punished, in many cases possibly rightfully, the rhetoric of people like Cleverly would have you believe there canít be bad councillors.
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post May 3 2019, 04:51 AM
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QUOTE(Harve @ May 3 2019, 12:48 AM) *
Is there anything more excruciating than watching Barry Gardiner try to spin bad Labour results. He makes me squirm.


Anyone trying to spin any bad results makes me want to puke.gif
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post May 3 2019, 05:00 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-69...co=taboola_feed

Boris Johnson is forced to delete tweet suggesting he had just voted in local elections despite no poll being held in his London constituency laugh.gif
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post May 3 2019, 07:12 AM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ May 2 2019, 08:12 PM) *
Is your count overnight or tomorrow?

today - it is likely still to be Tory, but fingers crossed Tories stayed at home pissed off. Good luck with the count! Suedey for PM!



Everyone blathering on about how well they've done this morning "considering" and slagging off the Lib Dems for joining the coalition.

Votes so far show: Tories have lost a quarter of seats as their supporters are pissed off at them for not delivering Brexit. That's before the other half of the pending votes.

Labour have lost around 100 seats in Remain areas as voters are pissed off at them for dithering and not listening to their core membership, DESPITE a massive Tory bashing and the worst government in my lifetime.

Greens have gone from ooh a handful of seats to a few dozen, and are beaming as if this a game changer.

UKIP have been hammered because they are even too extreme for Brexit supporters.

Independents have done amazingly well thanks to Brexit supporters not having The Nigel Farage Fan Club to vote for.

Lib Dems have done well in remain areas and total numbers of seats could be challenging both Labour & Tory give or take in total numbers around the 800's.

Half-time scores courtesy of PCFpolling....
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post May 3 2019, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE(Harve @ May 3 2019, 01:20 AM) *
Sorry I don't think I'm gonna post about any of the actual results but rather Barry Gardiner continued awfulness. Hope that's cool.


whenever he comes on TV I think "where's a handy giant dead fish waiting for a face to slap when you want one?". I speak as a vegetarian animal rights supporter.
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post May 3 2019, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ May 3 2019, 06:00 AM) *
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-69...co=taboola_feed

Boris Johnson is forced to delete tweet suggesting he had just voted in local elections despite no poll being held in his London constituency laugh.gif

This is a perfect illustration of what I've been saying about politicians lying. At one time, a politician might have made this sort of claim even if they had actually voted by post. That would have been a distortion of the truth, but not an outright lie. Now we get politicians telling lies that are bound to be spotted almost immediately. That is not healthy for democracy.
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post May 3 2019, 09:26 AM
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I voted Labour mainly because their manifesto for my City actually looked more sligned to my views rather than the Lib Dems.

9 years of Conversative and Labour are still losing seats? Can someone just oust Corbyn please, there is no way he is ever winning a General Election. My only concern about the Labour-Conservative hammering is it might make them both make a speedy resolution to Brexit to avoid getting hammered in the Euro Elections too.
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