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 5th April 2023, 09:58 PM
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 I'm in a vewy bad mood, Bwadley.
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 We've obviously have these threads before, usually led by Liam - but now that all the episodes are behind you, how would the season have played out if you were the judge / if things went fairly? I'm going to post mine which... may have a few surprises that I didn't see coming myself but I've convinced myself it all makes sense. |
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5th April 2023, 09:58 PM
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I'm in a vewy bad mood, Bwadley.
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E01/02: "One Night Only, Parts 1 & 2"
WIN: Anetra TOPS: Jax, Marcia Marcia Marcia LOW: Loosey Laduca BOTTOM 2: Irene Dubois vs Aura Mayari ELIMINATED: Irene Dubois E03: "All Queens Go To Heaven" WIN: Sasha Colby TOPS: Anetra, Luxx Noir London, Salina EsTitties, Marcia Marcia Marcia LOW: Amethyst BOTTOM 2: Princess Poppy vs Aura Mayari ELIMINATED: Princess Poppy SIDENOTE: Judged this in teams - winners: Team Anetra, safe: Team Leftovers, bottom: Team Amethyst E04: "Supersized Snatch Game" WIN: Loosey Laduca TOPS: Mistress Isabelle Brooks, Marcia Marcia Marcia LOW: Aura Mayari BOTTOM 2: Sugar vs Spice ELIMINATED: Sugar E05: "House of Fashion" WIN: Luxx Noir London TOPS: Sasha Colby, Mistress Isabelle Brooks LOW: Jax BOTTOM 2: Amethyst vs Aura Mayari ELIMINATED: Aura Mayari E06: "Old Friends Gold" WIN: Sasha Colby TOPS: Luxx Noir London, Salina Estitties LOW: Anetra BOTTOM 2: Jax vs Spice ELIMINATED: Spice E07: "The Daytona Wind 2" WIN: Mistress Isabelle Brooks TOPS: Malaysia Babydoll Foxx, Anetra, Marcia Marcia Marcia LOW: Amethyst BOTTOM 2: Robin Fierce vs Jax ELIMINATED: Robin Fierce E08: "Lipsync Lalaparuza" ROUND 1: Malaysia Babydoll Foxx vs Marcia Marcia Marcia - Boys Don't Cry Loosey LaDuca vs Amethyst - It's All Coming Back To Me Now Luxx Noir London vs Salina Estitties - Tell It To My Heart Mistress Isabelle Brooks vs Jax - The Right Stuff Sasha Colby vs Anetra - I'm In Love With a Monster Sidenote: The first named queen picks the opponent, the second name queen picks the song ROUND 2: Malaysia Babydoll Foxx vs Loosey Laduca - Do You Wanna Touch Luxx Noir London vs Mistress Isabelle Brooks - Don't Go Yet ROUND 3: Mistress Isabelle Brooks vs Malaysia Babydoll Foxx - Finally ELIMINATED: Malaysia Babydoll Foxx --- E09: The Crystal Ball: Episode 200 WINNER: Mistress Isabelle Brooks TOPS: Sasha Colby, Anetra LOW: Salina Estitties BOTTOM 2: Jax vs Amethyst ELIMINATED: Jax --- E10: 50/50's Most Gagworthy Stars WINNER: Luxx Noir London TOPS: Loosey Laduca, Sasha Colby LOW: Mistress Isabelle Brooks BOTTOM TWO: Marcia Marcia Marcia vs Amethyst ELIMINATED: Amethyst --- E11: Two Queens, One Joke WINNER: Salina Estitties TOPS: Loosey Laduca, Luxx Noir London LOW: Sasha Colby BOTTOM TWO: Marcia Marcia Marcia vs Anetra ELIMINATED: Marcia Marcia Marcia --- E12: Wigloose: The Rusical! TOP TWO: Anetra vs Luxx Noir London WINNER: Anetra HIGH: Everybody SIDENOTE: I thought everybody did great and it'd be a perfect opportunity for a top 2 rather than a bottom 2. --- E13: Teacher Makeovers WINNER: Sasha Colby HIGH: Anetra, Loosey Laduca BOTTOM 2: Luxx Noir London vs Salina Estitties ELIMINATED: Salina Estitties --- E14: Blame It On The Edit WINNER: Sasha Colby HIGH: Anetra LOW: Mistress Isabelle Brooks BOTTOM 2: Anetra vs Loosey Laduca ELIMINATED: Loosey Laduca --- FINAL: Anetra: 2 WINS / 2 BOTTOMS Luxx Noir London: 3 WINS / 1 BOTTOM Mistress Isabelle Brooks: 2 WINS / 1 BOTTOM Sasha Colby: 4 WINS / 0 BOTTOMS TOP TWO:Anetra vs Sasha Colby WINNER: Sasha Colby |
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6th April 2023, 02:46 PM
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 Brown cow, stunning!
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One Night Only
WIN Anetra HIGH Sasha, Marcia, Jax LOW Loosey BTM2 Aura, Irene ELIM Irene All Queens Go To Heaven WIN Sasha HIGH Luxx, Salina, Sugar LOW Amethyst BTM2 Poppy, Aura Snatch Game WIN Loosey HIGH Marcia, Mistress, Amethyst LOW Robin BTM2 Aura, Sugar ELIM Sugar House Of Fashion WIN Luxx HIGH Mistress, Robin, Sasha LOW Anetra BTM2 Amethyst, Aura Old Friends Gold WIN Sasha HIGH Luxx, Amethyst LOW Robin BTM2 Spice, Jax ELIM Spice Daytona Winds 2 WIN Mistress HIGH Malaysia, Marcia LOW Robin BTM2 Amethyst, Jax ELIM Amethyst LaLaPaRuza ELIM Robin Crystal Ball WIN Mistress HIGH Sasha, Anetra LOW Loosey BTM2 Jax, Salina ELIM Jax 50/50 WIN Sasha HIGH Luxx, Loose LOW Mistress BTM2 Marcia, Malaysia ELIM Malaysia Two Queens, One Joke WIN Loosey, Luxx HIGH Salina LOW Sasha BTM2 Anetra, Marcia ELIM Marcia Wigloose WIN Sasha TOP 2 Anetra HIGH Mistress, Luxx ELIM Nobody! Makeovers WIN Sasha HIGH Anetra LOW Loosey BTM2 Luxx, Salina ELIM Salina Blame It On The Edit WIN Sasha HIGH Luxx BTM2 Loosey, Anetra ELIM Loosey Finale Top 4: Sasha Colby (6 wins, 0 bottoms) Anetra (1 win, 2 bottoms) Luxx (2 wins, 1 bottom) Mistress (2 wins, 0 bottoms) Top 2: Mistress, Sasha Colby Sasha wins Tried not to be biased to Sasha, but she was the clear winner of at least 4 challenges for me, and then for the makeover she just edged out for me!! |
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6th April 2023, 05:28 PM
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 there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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I actually did mine of this just recently. Interesting to see for y'all the top 4 remains pretty much the same! Not quite for me:
One Night Only WIN Anetra HIGH Sasha, Jax, Marcia, Mistress LOW Amethyst, Aura, Robin BTM2 Irene, Loosey ELIM Loosey (Loosey isn't the best lipsyncer and she's in a tight dress where she can't move) All Queens Go To Heaven WIN Sasha HIGH Anetra, Luxx, Marcia, Salina (judging in teams) LOW Aura BTM2 Poppy, Amethyst ELIM Poppy Snatch Game WIN Irene HIGH Mistress, Amethyst, Anetra LOW Salina, Sugar BTM2 Aura, Spice ELIM Spice House Of Fashion WIN Luxx HIGH Jax, Robin, Sasha LOW Amethyst BTM2 Salina, Malaysia ELIM Malaysia Old Friends Gold WIN Mistress HIGH Sasha, Irene LOW Sugar BTM2 Anetra, Robin ELIM Robin Daytona Winds 2 WIN Mistress HIGH Irene, Marcia LOW Salina BTM2 Amethyst, Aura ELIM Aura LaLaPaRuza Mistress beats Irene Marcia beats Sugar Salina beats Luxx Jax beats Amethyst Anetra and Sasha have a double win Irene then beats Sugar Luxx beats Amethyst Sugar and Amethyst then lipsync and Amethyst is eliminated on track record ELIM Amethyst Crystal Ball WIN Mistress HIGH Anetra, Sugar LOW Luxx BTM2 Irene, Salina ELIM Salina 50/50 (Interviews) WIN Sugar HIGH Anetra, Luxx LOW Jax BTM2 Marcia, Mistress ELIM Marcia Two Queens, One Joke WIN Irene (who worked alone) HIGH Jax, Luxx LOW Mistress, Sugar (after trying a drag mother/daughter routine) BTM2 Anetra, Sasha ELIM double shantay Wigloose WIN Anetra HIGH Sasha, Irene SAFE Jax, Luxx BTM2 Mistress, Sugar ELIM Sugar Makeovers WIN Sasha HIGH Irene (she has a strong brand) LOW Mistress BTM2 Luxx, Jax ELIM Luxx Blame It On The Edit WIN Sasha HIGH Jax, Anetra BTM2 Mistress, Irene ELIM Mistress  Finale Top 4: Sasha Colby (3 wins, 1 btm) Anetra (2 wins, 2 btm) Jax (0 wins, 1 btm) Irene Dubois (2 wins, 3 btm) |
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19th July 2023, 05:32 PM
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I'm in a vewy bad mood, Bwadley.
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Decided to do this for AS8.
EPISODE ONE: The Fame Games WINNER: Kahanna Montrese TOPS: Lala Ri, Mrs Kasha Davis LOW: Darienne Lake BOTTOM 2: Jaymes Mansfield, Monica Beverly Hillz LIPSYNC WINNER: Aja ELIMINATED: Monica Beverly Hillz EPISODE TWO: WINNER: Mrs Kasha Davis TOPS: Heidi N Closet, Jimbo LOW: Lala Ri BOTTOM 2: Kahanna Montrese, Naysha Lopez LIPSYNC WINNER: Pangina Heals ELIMINATED: Naysha Lopez EPISODE THREE: The Supermarket Ball WINNER: Heidi N Closet TOPS: Kahanna Montrese, Jessica Wild LOW: Lala Ri BOTTOM 2: Darienne Lake, Mrs Kasha Davis LIPSYNC WINNER: Heidi N Closet ELIMINATED: Darienne Lake EPISODE FOUR: Screen Queens WINNER: Jimbo TOPS: Kandy Muse & Jessica Wild BOTTOM 3: Alexis Michelle, Mrs Kasha Davis, Jaymes Mansfield LIP SYNC WINNER: Shannel ELIMINATED: Jaymes Mansfield EPISODE FIVE: Snatch Game Of Love WINNER: Jimbo TOPS: Alexis Michelle, Mrs Kasha Davis LOW: Jessica Wild BOTTOM 2: Kahanna Montrese & Heidi N Closet LIP SYNC WINNER: Jasmine Kennedie ELIMINATED: Kahanna Montrese Side note: This is where the Heidi meltdown begins, rather than in Episode 3 as it was in the actual series, because I think her winning that episode would've changed her mindset slightly. The Kandy fight and Kahanna being mad still happens, but the girls give her a chance after she breaks down in Untucked EPISODE SIX: Joan - The Unauthorized Rusical[/u] WINNER: Lala Ri TOPS: Alexis Michelle, Kandy Muse LOW: Heidi N Closet BOTTOM 2: Jimbo, Mrs Kasha Davis LIP SYNC WINNER: Lala Ri ELIMINATED: Mrs Kasha Davis EPISODE SEVEN: Forensic Queens WINNER: Lala Ri & Jessica Wild TOPS: Jimbo SAFE: Alexis Michelle, Kandy Muse WALKS: Heidi N Closet LIP SYNC WINNER: Lala Ri ELIMINATED: Nobody, lip sync for the win instead (three way lip sync vs Jorgeous) Side note: Heidi walks this episode after the filming the episode, as she did in Episode 5 originally. This is the episode when Alexis and Kahanna both discussed quitting so clearly it was intense. The Kandy vs Heidi drama is still ongoing and she decides to leave after Kandy takes a role she wanted. EPISODE EIGHT: You’re A Winner Baby! WINNER: Alexis Michelle TOPS: Jimbo, Jessica Wild BOTTOM 2: Lala Ri, Kandy Muse LIP SYNC WINNER: Alexis Michelle ELIMINATED: Kandy Muse Side note: Obviously Alexis eliminated Lala in reality, but I think with Lala coming off 2 wins and Kandy on 0, this would tip things differently. I toyed with the idea of Alexis eliminating competition and furthering her villain arc and decided she wouldn't go through with it. EPISODE NINE: Carson Kressley, This is Your Gay Life WINNER: Jimbo TOPS: Jessica Wild BOTTOM TWO: Lala Ri, Alexis Michelle ELIMINATED: Alexis Michelle EPISODE TEN: The Letter “L” WINNER: Jessica Wild BOTTOM TWO: Jimbo, Lala Ri ELIMINATED: Nobody - Ru says it's a top 3! EPISODE ELEVEN: The Fame Games WINNERS: Jaymes Mansfield vs Mrs Kasha Davis FINAL THREE: JESSICA WILD - 2 wins, 0 bottoms JIMBO - 3 wins, 2 bottoms LALA RI - 2 wins, 2 bottoms WINNER: Jimbo |
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20th July 2023, 10:00 AM
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Brown cow, stunning!
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I found the lipsync assassin twist didn’t really work this time around, so I’m gonna do lipsync for your legacy!
Episode 1: Girl groups WIN Jessica Wild, Lala Ri HIGH Kahanna Montrese, Mrs Kasha Davis BTM2 Jaymes Mansfield, Monica Beverley Hillz Lipsync win: Lala Ri ELIM: Monica Episode 2: SNL sketch WIN Jimbo, Jessica Wild HIGH Mrs kasha Davis, Heidi N Closet BTM2 Kahanna Montrese, Naysha Lopez Lipsync win: Jessica ELIM: Naysha Episode 3: Ball WIN Kahanna Montrese, Jessica Wild HIGH Heidi N Closet, Jimbo BTM2 Mrs Kasha Davis, Darienne Lake Lipsync win: Kahanna ELIM: Darienne Episode 4: Acting WIN Jimbo, Kandy Muse HIGH Lala Ri, Heidi N Closet BTM3 Jaymes Mansfield, Alexis Michelle, Mrs Kasha Davis Lipsync win: Kandy ELIM: Jaymes Episode 5: Snatch Game WIN Jimbo, Mrs Kasha Davis HIGH Mrs Kasha Davis, Alexis Michelle BTM2 Heidi N Closet, Kahanna Montrese Lipsync winner: Kasha QUIT: Heidi Episode 6: Rusical WIN Kandy Muse, Lala Ri HIGH Jessica Wild, Alexis Michelle BTM2 Jimbo, Mrs Kasha Davis Lipsync win: Double win! ELIM Kasha Episode 7: Improv WIN Lala Ri, Jessica Wild HIGH Jimbo BTM2 Kandy Muse, Alexis Michelle Lipsync win: Lala Ri ELIM Alexis Episode 8: Design WIN Jimbo, Jessica BTM2 Lala, Kandy Lipsync win: Jessica ELIM Kandy Episode 9: Roast WIN Jimbo, Jessica BTM2 Kahanna, Lala ELIM Kahanna Episode 10: Makeover WIN Jessica BTM2 Jimbo, Lala Surprise LSA: Priyanka! Lipsync win: Jessica ELIM Lala Episode 11: Talent Show WIN Lala Ri, Darienne Lake Epiaode 12: Finale Jimbo 5 wins, 2 bottoms Jessica Wild 6 wins, 0 bottoms (!!) Queen of the Fame Games: Lala Ri Winner: I think Jimbo wins regardless but Jessica came off so much better changing the format!! |
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24th November 2023, 01:36 PM
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I'm in a vewy bad mood, Bwadley.
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Here's how I judged UK Series 5:
E01: "Tickety-Boo" TOP TWO: Michael Marouli, Cara Melle LIPSYNC WINNER: Michael Marouli TOPS: Michael Marouli, Cara Melle, Miss Naomi Carter, Vicki Vivacious, Banksie ELIMINATED: Nobody E02: "Purr-fect Looks" WIN: Banksie TOPS: DeDeLicious, Michael Marouli LOW: Cara Melle BOTTOM 2: Alexis Saint-Pete & Miss Naomi Carter ELIMINATED: Alexis Saint-Pete E03: "Club Bangers" TOP TWO: Cara Melle, Tomara Thomas LIPSYNC WINNER: Cara Melle TOPS: DeDeLicious, Michael Marouli, Vicki Vivacious (winning team) ELIMINATED: Nobody E04: "Disaster-Class" WIN: Ginger Johnson, Michael Marouli, Tomara Thomas LOW: Banksie BOTTOM 2: Vicki Vivacious & Cara Melle ELIMINATED: Vicki Vivacious E05: "Panto Dames" WIN: Kate Butch TOPS: Michael Marouli, Ginger Johnson LOW: Banksie BOTTOM 2: Miss Naomi Carter & DeDeLicious ELIMINATED: Miss Naomi Carter E06: "Snatch Game" WIN: Ginger Johnson TOPS: Kate Butch, Cara Melle LOW: N/A BOTTOM 2: DeDeLicious & Banksie ELIMINATED: Banksie E07: "Melodrama-Rama" WIN: Kate Butch TOP: Ginger Johnson LOW: N/A BOTTOM 2: Tomara Thomas & DeDeLicious ELIMINATED: DeDeLicious E08: "Hotline Makeover" WIN: Ginger Johnson TOP: Michael Marouli LOW: N/A BOTTOM 2: Tomara Thomas & Kate Butch ELIMINATED: Kate Butch E09: "Dragiators Roast" WIN: Michael Marouli TOP: Ginger Johnson LOW: N/A BOTTOM 2: Cara Melle & Tomara Thomas ELIMINATED: Cara Melle FINAL: Ginger Johnson (3 wins, 3 tops, 0 bottoms) Michael Marouli (3 wins, 4 tops, 0 bottoms) Tomara Thomas (1 win, 1 top, 3 bottoms) WINNER: Michael Marouli Honestly... we've ended up with the right top 3, it just would've all happened under different circumstances and different orders than it ended up with. I do feel like Kate Butch deserved to be in the final, but I see no way she survives that episode against Tomara, Dede or Cara, whichever route I threw her up against. I also wanted to push Banksie further, but I watched her Snatch Game idea and think it was way too reliant on preparation to work during improv, so she'd have stumbled there too. |
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2nd December 2023, 04:32 PM
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We're all Glitter and Tears in the Moonlight...
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Here's how I judged UK Series 5:
EP 1: Tickety-Boo WIN: Cara Melle TOP 2: Michael Maroulli HIGH: Alexis Saint-Pete, Ginger Johnson, Vicki Vivacious ELIM: NONE EP 2: Purr-fect Looks WIN: Banksie HIGH: DeDeLicious, Tomara Thomas LOW: Cara Melle BTM 2: Alexis Saint-Pete & Miss Naomi Carter ELIM: Alexis Saint-Pete EP 3: Club Bangers WIN: Tomara Thomas TOP 2: Cara Melle HIGH: Michael Maroulli, Kate Butch, Banksie, Ginger Johnson EP 4: DisasterClass WIN: Michael Maroulli, Tomara Thomas, Ginger Johnson LOW: Vicki Vivacious BTM 2: Cara Melle & Miss Naomi Carter ELIM: Miss Naomi Carter EP 5: Panto Dames WIN: Kate Butch HIGH: Ginger Jonhson, Michael Maroulli BTM 2: Banksie & DeDeLicious ELIM: Banksie EP 6: Snatch Game WIN: Ginger Johnson HIGH: Kate Butch, Tomara Thomas BTM 2: DeDeLicious & Vicki Vivacious ELIM: Vicki Vivacious EP 7: Melodrama-Rama WIN: Ginger Johnson, Kate Butch LOW: Cara Melle BTM 2: DeDeLicious & Michael Maroulli ELIM: DeDeLicious EP 8: Hotline Makeovers WIN: Michael Maroulli HIGH: Ginger Johnson, Cara Melle BTM 2: Kate Butch & Tomara Thomas ELIM: Kate Butch EP 9: Dragiators Roast WIN: Michael Maroulli HIGH: Ginger Johnson BTM 2: Cara Melle & Tomara Thomas ELIM: Cara Melle EP 10: Grand Finale Ginger Johnson - 3 Wins, 0 Bottoms Michael Maroulli - 3 Wins, 1 Bottom Tomara Thomas - 2 Wins, 2 Bottoms |
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2nd December 2023, 07:49 PM
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Goodness, I need to watch back and remind myself of the episodes to do this!
I'm glad Ginger won though! |
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24th December 2023, 04:36 AM
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We're all Glitter and Tears in the Moonlight...
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UK Season 4 Rejudged
EP 1: Runway Challenge WIN: Black Peppa HIGH: Sminty Drop, Starlet LOW: Copper Topp BTM 2: Dakota Schiffer & Just May ELIM: Just May EP 2: Girl Group Challenge WIN: Dakota Schiffer HIGH: Cheddar Gorgeous, Copper Topp, Danny Beard, Le Fil, Pixie Polite LOW: Sminty Drop BTM 2: Jonbers Blonde & Starlet ELIM: Starlet EP 3: Design Challenge WIN: Baby, Dakota Schiffer HIGH: Sminty Drop, Le Fil LOW: Danny Beard, Pixie Polite BTM 2: Black Peppa & Jonbers Blonde ELIM: Jonbers Blonde EP 4: Improv Challenge WIN: Danny Beard HIGH: Cheddar Gorgeous, Pixie Polite LOW: Le Fil BTM 2: Baby & Sminty Drop ELIM: Sminty Drop EP 5: Rusical WIN: Danny Beard TOP 2: Le Fil HIGH: Pixie Polite ELIM: Baby (Quits) EP 6: Snatch Game WIN: Cheddar Gorgeous HIGH: Copper Topp, Dakota Schiffer LOW: Danny Beard BTM 2: Black Peppa & Le Fil ELIM: Le Fil EP 7: Makeover Challenge WIN: Cheddar Gorgeous HIGH: Danny Beard LOW: Black Peppa BTM 2: Copper Topp & Pixie Polite ELIM: Copper Topp EP 8: Acting Challenge WIN: Pixie Polite HIGH: Danny Beard BTM 2: Black Peppa & Dakota Schiffer ELIM: NONE (Double Shantay) EP 9: Comedy Challenge WIN: Danny Beard HIGH: Dakota Schiffer LOW: Cheddar Gorgeous BTM 2: Black Peppa & Pixie Ploite ELIM: Pixie Polite EP 10: Final Danny Beard - 3 Wins, 0 Bottoms Cheddar Gorgeoys - 2 Wins, 0 Bottoms Dakota Schiffer - 2 Wins, 2 Bottoms Black Peppa - 1 Win, 4 Bottoms Running Order 1st. Danny Beard - SAFE-HIGH-LOW-WIN-WIN-LOW-HIGH-HIGH-WIN-WINNER 2nd. Cheddar Gorgeous - SAFE-HIGH-SAFE-HIGH-SAFE-WIN-WIN-SAFE-LOW-RUNNER-UP 3rd/4th. Dakota Schiffer - BTM-WIN-WIN-SAFE-SAFE-HIGH-SAFE-BTM-HIGH-ELIM 3rd/4th. Black Peppa - WIN-SAFE-BTM-SAFE-SAFE-BTM-LOW-BTM-BTM-ELIM 5th. Pixie Polite - SAFE-HIGH-LOW-HIGH-HIGH-SAFE-BTM-WIN-ELIM 6th. Copper Topp - LOW-HIGH-SAFE-SAFE-SAFE-HIGH-ELIM 7th. Le Fil - SAFE-HIGH-HIGH-LOW-TOP 2-ELIM 8th. Baby - SAFE-SAFE-WIN-BTM-QUIT 9th. Sminty Drop - HIGH-LOW-HIGH-ELIM 10th. Jonbers Blonde - SAFE-BTM-ELIM 11th. Starlet - HIGH-ELIM 12th. Just May - ELIM This post has been edited by Nina West: 24th December 2023, 12:21 PM |
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