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post Jun 23 2012, 06:20 PM
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Cheryl Cole's obviously continued doing really well with her solo stuff of late. But after a discussion with a friend the other day, this got me thinking about the solo careers that haven't done so well, so I thought it'd be a good basis for a thread. I've drawn up my own personal top 10 but feel free to add yours!

10. LISA SCOTT-LEE (2003 - 2005)
Biggest solo hit: 'Lately', #6, May 2003




Despite Steps' implosion in 2001 offering equally embarrassing flops from H & Claire's duo project and Faye's foray into opera with Russell Watson (don't ask), it is Lisa who takes the ignmonius title of the 'Tragedy' hitmakers worst solo outing, if only for the car crash TV affair of 2005 with MTV's 'Totally Scott Lee', whereby she played Russian roulette and was challenged that her god-awful Kylie rip off single 'Electric' had to reach the top 10 or else her career be declared over. You can probably guess the end result, readers.

9. MARK OWEN (1996 - 1997, 2003 - 2005)
Biggest solo hit: 'Child'/'Clementine', #3, November 1996/February 1997




The least expectation seems to come out of the 'cute one' in solo career terms, and indeed it can be a hard perception to shift. So despite two post-Take That split driven top 3 singles and another foray into the top 5 in 2003 with jangly end-of-the-world anthem 'Four Minute Warning' (perhaps helped in part by his appearance and winning of 2002's series of 'Celebrity Big Brother'), Mark's re-emergence as indie troubadour was never going to be a successful one.

8. NADINE COYLE (2010 - 2011)
Biggest solo hit: 'Insatiable', #26, November 2010




She had, to all intents and purposes, been labelled 'the voice' of Girls Aloud, so solo Nadine material should have been a rip-roaring success on paper. In practice she was hampered by constant tabloid tattle-tale weaving about rumoured rifts with the rest of her GA bandmates. Add a muchly mocked album deal with Tesco into the mix (rumour had it at the time that no other label, even Girls Aloud's own natural home of Polydor/Universal wanted her) and she was doomed for the scrapheap.

7. ABS (2002 - 2003)
Biggest solo hit: 'What You Got', #4, August 2002




As he'd been partly responsible for the huge success 5ive enjoyed, it seemed a little odd that Richard 'Abs' Breen was the one Simon Cowell deemed most viable for a solo career. Particularly when watching it unfold was like watching an early prototype of Dappy - all cod Jafakean accent and unconvincing white boy rap. A shame really when some of his offerings like the ill fated '7 Ways' and 'Stop Sign' would have been fairly servicable pop records had they been done by somebody else who wasn't as embarrassing to watch/hear.

6. MUTYA BUENA (2007)
Biggest solo hit: 'Real Girl', #2, May 2007




A classic case again here of old perceptions dying hard, in this case being 'the moody one' of your former posse, even though Mutya seemed fairly happy a year on from being the second original member of Sugababes to leave in order to be a full time mum for a bit. And indeed to begin with it started well - her debut single was never off the radio in the summer of 2007, even finding it's way onto the soundtrack of the 'Sex and the City' movie and being nominated for a BRIT award in 2008. But still being signed to her former label (bear in mind Sugababes were still a veritable chart force at this time) meant it was inevitable she'd luck out.

5. BEN ADAMS (2005)
Biggest solo hit: 'Sorry', #18, June 2005




The time between A1 finishing on a whimper in 2002 (their final single 'Make It Good' was their only one to not reach the UK top 10) and Ben starting his solo effort up was approximately 3 years, which is almost a lifetime in pop - and one that effectively eradicates you to little more than an embarrasing reminder of your past. Add into the equation that he did all in his powers to try and reposition himself beyond being the dumpy one with curtains - such as an infamous tabloid story involving him and a Taiwanese prostitute - meant that despite a servicable single and a promising sounding album - Ben would all but be forgotten.

4. APPLETON (2002 - 2003)
Biggest solo hit: 'Fantasy', #2, September 2002




An interesting one this, but despite being a fan of theirs they're worthy of inclusion here. Once declared 'the most hated women in Britain' and often seen as the airheads of All Saints, much was made of Natalie and Nicole Appleton being little more than 'famous for being famous' types, more so when they hooked up with their respective rock star Liam husbands from the Prodigy and Oasis. It was their perceived relentlessness for fame that, despite a corking album in 'Everything's Eventual' (even Q magazine awarded it 4 out of 5), seemed to turn people off, namely the backlash they recieved from tell-all autobiography 'Together' in the autumn of 2002.

3. JC CHASEZ (2004)
Biggest solo hit: 'Blowin' Me Up (With Her Love)', #13, April 2004




No one could have anticipated the huge career Justin Timberlake was to go on to have post-NSYNC (even if he has annoyingly stopped it indefinitely to pursue acting). So it seemed, as with Beyonce in Destiny's Child, that anything from fellow bandmates would not be as worth the trouble with. A shame really when JC Chasez brought out an interesting, odd sounding album with some interesting production from the likes of Basement Jaxx that was hampered by an extremely dated debut single here in the UK (it had come out in the US two years prior to it's 2004 release here). He has however, gone on to pen pop magic of his own, most notably for/with Girls Aloud and McFly.

2. VICTORIA BECKHAM (2000 - 2004)
Biggest solo hit: 'Out of Your Mind' (with True Steppers and Dane Bowers), #2, August 2000




It could be widely argued that despite the initial bursts of success, ALL the Spice Girls would be worthy of inclusion here. But it's Victoria's solo venture that people seem to remember least fondly, not least because she was the only one of them not to have a number 1 (even Mel B and Emma managed one-a-piece). Perhaps it was because of unfortunate press portrayal of being part of 'Posh and Becks' mania at the time where David seemed to be more on the ascent career wise than she was, but whether it was backlash over a fake lip ring worn at a summer roadshow to promote her single 'Not Such an Innocent Girl' in 2001, or sending her second solo label Telstar down the pictures into administration from costly failed sessions with hip hop guru Damon Dash in 2003, nothing Victoria did seemed to be right. A shame when the likes of 'Out Of Your Mind' and even 'Let Your Head Go' are still great pop outings when accepted for what they are.

1. GARY BARLOW (1996 - 1999)
Biggest solo hit: 'Forever Love'/'Love Won't Wait', #1, July 1996/May 1997




Of course the Captain has won most of us (myself included) over since Take That's triumphant reunion, 'The X Factor' and all his various charitable ventures - evident in his Jubilee anthem 'Sing' with his Commonwealth band having topped the charts recently. But there was a time before that where he'd been victim to a very public fall from grace. Just a few months after Take That's split he'd been touted for a glittering career in the vein of Elton John. However fate - or rather Clive Davis - lent a hand in making sure that despite a promising start with two solo chart toppers he'd be disgraced into the 'has-been' files of pop with two dull as dishwater US-centric albums that made him look a joke pitched next to the more exciting antics and material Robbie Williams had been offering.


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post Jun 23 2012, 06:39 PM
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Technically, Victoria's the most successful Spice Girl. As all her singles charted in the top 10. laugh.gif
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post Jun 23 2012, 06:45 PM
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What about Michelle Williams?

She released a single in the UK back in 2008 called 'We Break The Dawn' which got to #47 in the UK.

Her solo career flopped with the two of her former bandmates, Beyonce and Kelly Rowland going onto do massive solo careers although Beyonce tops over Kelly Rowland really doesn't she?
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post Jun 23 2012, 06:45 PM
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Nadine Coyle is the worst I'd say, it's baffling how Girls Aloud were so big plus she was pretty much the main vocalist (or the best vocalist at least) and yet she had a barely top 30 single and an album that missed the top 40 (not helped by Tescogate). Nicola Roberts is a bit emabrrasing too as she's also in GA, but she had less 'spotlight' than Nadine so it's a little more understandable.

Shaznay Lewis comes to mind as well, plus Mel B (I read somewhere her leaast album got to something like #451, how do they know? laugh.gif), both from insanely popular girl groups yet managed to flop pretty badly solo aside from one or two hits apiece.

Also LeToya Luckett from Destiny's Child, Torn got to something like #33 here (it was quite big in the US I think) but then agan she wasn't in DC for long. Michelle's s album (the one with WBTD on it) was really good actually, wish it had done better!


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post Jun 23 2012, 06:55 PM
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And I'd argue all of Boyzone bar Ronan!
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post Jun 23 2012, 07:00 PM
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I wouldn't put Mutya in the top 10 myself.
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post Jun 23 2012, 07:13 PM
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I love Lately by Lisa Scott Lee lmao.
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post Jun 23 2012, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(Liаm @ Jun 23 2012, 07:45 PM) *
Nicola Roberts is a bit emabrrasing too as she's also in GA, but she had less 'spotlight' than Nadine so it's a little more understandable.


True. But she was a critic's favourite - nothing but glowing reviews (and rightly so) for Cinderella's Eyes and I think everyone knew she'd be a 'sleeper' success as it were.
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post Jun 23 2012, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(Gezza7T6 @ Jun 23 2012, 07:55 PM) *
And I'd argue all of Boyzone bar Ronan!


YES. I should really have Keith and Shane with that abysmal cover of 'Girl You Know It's True' on here with that godawful 'Westlife, lowlife, go get your own life' rap line on it *shudders*
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post Jun 23 2012, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(dannjohn3 @ Jun 23 2012, 07:39 PM) *
Technically, Victoria's the most successful Spice Girl. As all her singles charted in the top 10. laugh.gif


This is very true. All bar 'Out of Your Mind' didn't exactly sell or chart well regardless!
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post Jun 23 2012, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(Liаm @ Jun 23 2012, 07:45 PM) *
plus Mel B (I read somewhere her leaast album got to something like #451, how do they know? laugh.gif)


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Finally, look for Live 8 to benefit participants' sales considerably next week. The Spice Girls famously failed to show, of course, because Mel B thought it would detract from her solo career. Her debut solo album Hot reached number 28 in 2000, with first week sales of 7,419. Her follow-up LA State Of Mind, credited to Melanie Brown and featuring the number 41 single Today, was released last week but sold a dismal 670 copies, enough for it to debut at number 453 on the album chart this week.


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Finally...the Spice Girls. After a disastrous first week, which saw it sell 670 copies, making it the 453rd best-selling artist album, Melanie Brown's LA State Of Mind suffered a further massive 77.3% decline last week. Dipping to 1,581st place (!!) on the artist album chart, it sold 152 copies last week. Brown - the former Mel B - is the third former Spice Girl to release an album this year. The others didn't exactly distinguish themselves but they did at least make the Top 75. Melanie C's Beautiful Intentions reached number 24 and has sold 19,957 copies in 13 weeks. Geri Halliwell's Passion clearly wasn't many other people's and, after debuting at number 41, it has slipped well out of the chart with five week sales of 8,749.


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post Jun 24 2012, 07:40 AM
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Oh that is awful for Mel B laugh.gif

Thanks Jay, I wasn't imagining it then tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2012, 11:55 AM
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Haha at Mel B!

I also think Jo from S Club should be here. Her solo attempt was floptastic!
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post Jun 24 2012, 12:12 PM
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I don't get how Gary Barlow can be your #1, even though his second album bombed horribly. He still has two #1 albums and three #1 singles.

In regarding the material compared to TT, it's more understandable but even then it's not THAT bad


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QUOTE(Martyn @ Jun 24 2012, 12:55 PM) *
I also think Jo from S Club should be here. Her solo attempt was floptastic!


Ah yes...even though her version of 'What Hurts the Most' was by far the best I've heard...don't think Celeb BB-gate helped her either!
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QUOTE(SKOB @ Jun 24 2012, 01:12 PM) *
I don't get how Gary Barlow can be your #1, even though his second album bombed horribly. He still has two #1 albums and three #1 singles.

In regarding the material compared to TT, it's more understandable but even then it's not THAT bad



But if we're talking about sustained solo success it's Robbie most people look to. Even though I do love the Captain!
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In that sense you're right but Robbie was lucky to leave Take That just in time and I'd say he was also lucky to have Angels on his debut which was the true catapult to stardom.. (remember the awful Freedom?) And Angels wasn't less "US centric" as a song than anything Gary did at the time imo.

But these are personal opinions. Your list is interesting anyway.


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Melanie B has to go down as the worst solo career ever. #451 takes some beating w00t.gif The thing is, none of that album had any promise. The music video for "Today" looked as if it was done on a webcam or a mobile phone camera circa 2004/5.
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Keisha White's album Seventeen charted at #308 apparently (according to Wikipedia), even though it had The Weakness in Me on it, which probably got a lot of Radio 2 airplay.
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QUOTE(Eric_Blob @ Jun 25 2012, 08:47 PM) *
Keisha White's album Seventeen charted at #308 apparently (according to Wikipedia), even though it had The Weakness in Me on it, which probably got a lot of Radio 2 airplay.


What band did she used to be in?
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