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Spice Girls - 'Forever', 2000 • 3rd Album |
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27th April 2020, 07:51 AM
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27th April 2020, 08:13 AM
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I like Get Down With Me and Wasting My Time as solid album tracks...though I don't view them as potential single choices like some fans. I think their problem is more in the context of the album. The novelty of the Spice Girls doing American-sounding r'n'b kinda wares off after Holler and Tell Me Why. By the time tracks 5 and 6 roll around, I think that's the point the album should have shifted off in some new, interesting direction. Instead it's...even more Darkchild-style r'n'b. Rodney Jerkins claimed at the time he wanted to do a rock song with them...and I think he should have to change up the album's dynamic. Frankly, he had Pain Proof sitting right there and might have been able to adapt it a bit to his style while retaining the guitars. But as standalone songs? I do like Get Down With Me and Wasting My Time. As a minor criticism, I think the ad-libs feel a bit forced at times on both. But both are legitimately catchy, and I find myself humming them sometimes. I agree with you on the fact that Get Down With Me and Wasting My Time being in the middle of the album does both songs no good service. Maybe if they had the pop version of Right Back At Ya instead of the R&B, that transition it would have been easier to accept for most fans? Anyway this reminded me to go BOPPING to Get Down With Me and Wasting My Time during my exercises this morning |
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27th April 2020, 10:35 AM
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27th April 2020, 10:36 AM
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27th April 2020, 11:05 AM
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27th April 2020, 11:34 AM
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27th April 2020, 01:45 PM
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27th April 2020, 06:32 PM
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This is the only Top 4 that is acceptable in my house: 1. Holler 2. Wasting My Time 3. If You Wanna Have Some Fun 4. Goodbye 5. Let Love Lead The Way Are you high again you said top 4 and you've got a top 5!! Also no 1. Holler 2. Get down with me 3. Goodbye 4. Let love lead the way 5. If you wanna have some fun |
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27th April 2020, 06:58 PM
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To be fair, as Spice/Spiceworld are so perfect, Forever does usually create the best thread discussions as it's such a divisive album
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27th April 2020, 08:00 PM
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Tell Me Why deserves to be top 3
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27th April 2020, 09:37 PM
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27th April 2020, 11:04 PM
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I used to love Tell Me Why, particularly when I first had the album all those years ago...
However, after watching the American tour documentary the other week and, reading some stuff from that time, I've decided I don't like the blatant bitterness of the period and the knowledge that at least one or two of them were over Spice at that time. My top 5 from Forever would now have to be: 1 Goodbye 2 Holler 3 Let Love Lead The Way 4 If You Wanna Have Some Fun 5 Get Down With Me By the way, I made a mashup of sorts, combining If It's Lovin On Your Mind and 5ive's Don't Wanna Let You Go: https://youtu.be/LoDUd4tU6NQ if you want a listen. |
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30th April 2020, 05:50 PM
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And onto this album today. Definitely a lot less familiar with this than the others so was excited to rediscover some gems - and it didn't disappoint! 'Holler' is definitely in their top 5 singles, what a start to the era *.* Really liked the first half of the album. 'Tell Me Why' and 'Right Back At You' are fabulous. My ranking that I updated as I listened was basically the tracklist order for ages It starts high and goes progressively down as it continues until the last few moments! I am here for the random ad-libs and raps thrown in throughout
1. Holler 2. Tell Me Why 3. Let Love Lead the Way 4. Goodbye 5. Right Back at Ya 6. Get Down with Me 7. If You Wanna Have Some Fun 8. Oxygen 9. Wasting My Time 10. Weekend Love 11. Time Goes By |
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30th April 2020, 10:24 PM
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Enjoyed listening to this with you and Maurice earlier!
Holler in first place where it belongs! Great to see Tell Me Why so high, it's a clear highlight for me too. Love to see Get Down with Me in the middle... a lot of fans think it's one of the worst tracks, I've always thought it was enjoyable.... so funky! Time Goes By and I oop! |
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30th April 2020, 11:11 PM
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Can you imagine if Tell Me Why had been a single as planned. Would've seemed so out of place on the Greatest Hits.
Holler somehow fits fine but Tell Me Why would never have sat well on there. |
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1st May 2020, 03:23 AM
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I like Tell Me Why...and think it should have been a single just based on the fact it's a good song. Memorable chorus. Darkchild doesn't overstay his welcome.
I do wonder what the subject would have done for the song, though. With it obviously being about Geri, it may have drummed up enough controversy to make a big hit. At the same time...it is a bit of a bummer that they'd taken the high road on the subject on Goodbye...only for this song to come along and kinda say "...but this is how we really feel..." I get that the group had the right to be frustrated with Geri. But. Looking at the context of 1999/2000/2001...is it possible the group could have come off as mean by releasing this as a single? Typically, their music was so positive. Their ire had only been directed at inconsequential dudes who did wrong and now have to be shown the door. Now...it would be directed at a former member. Would it have been a good look? By this point, Mel C had put down Geri's singing ability several times...Victoria said she didn't like Geri's music...and even Emma didn't like Look At Me. I think Geri was starting to look like the innocent party being picked on...and never firing back. If the song was a single, you know everyone would ask Geri what she thought of it. I wonder what she would have said... Final thought. Do we think the girls would have even admitted in 2000/2001 that Tell Me Why was about Geri? Yes, a few have admitted it since then. But I can kinda imagine them being asked the question in 2000/2001 and responding with aloof non-answers. "At the end of the day, people will think it's about what they want it to be about." Something like that. |
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1st May 2020, 07:28 AM
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Can you imagine if Tell Me Why had been a single as planned. Would've seemed so out of place on the Greatest Hits. Holler somehow fits fine but Tell Me Why would never have sat well on there. Tell me why remix is on all forms of the digital Greatest Hits release. It is track 16 after goodbye with 2 other remixes (Wannabe and SYBT). So essentially it is seen as the single that never was, the radio is the remix that was done for it for radio back in the day. |
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1st May 2020, 07:39 AM
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Tell Me Why remix on the GH is not that great tbh. It's a great remix but not as a single.
Personally I think with a cute single edit it would have been a great single and stand greatly alongside the rest of their discography, but I think they would have struggled to sell it unless they would really throw themselves at it. |
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1st May 2020, 08:02 AM
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I'm not massively keen on the Tell me why remix, I love the original though. It would have been a good single I think.
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1st May 2020, 09:45 AM
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Tell me why remix is on all forms of the digital Greatest Hits release. It is track 16 after goodbye with 2 other remixes (Wannabe and SYBT). So essentially it is seen as the single that never was, the radio is the remix that was done for it for radio back in the day. Yeah I meant the actual CD though which is the definitive track listing. The digital version you can add or remove anything yourself and that remix was just a bonus anyway. I'm glad Tell Me Why isn't on the CD/Vinyl This post has been edited by schizo_spice: 1st May 2020, 09:46 AM |
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