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___∆___ View member profile	13th February 2017, 08:15 PM Post #41
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 25 March 2007 Posts: 21,306 User: 3,155	Pleased to Devlin Top 10! Expecting it to drop but it could end up being his highest charting album - I hope it manages to stick around for a while as it's such a good release! Shocked to see Thunder exceeding 8k already - it will be very front loaded but an incredible achievement for a band like them and will improve on the #9 placing of their last album.


Davidson View member profile	13th February 2017, 08:15 PM Post #42
BuzzJack Platinum Member Joined: 15 September 2010 Posts: 10,457 User: 11,847	Wow at Rag'N'Bone Man, totally unexpected. I was thinking maybe 40k for the week. That is exciting though and shows that album sales don't have to be really dead if there is something that people really want to get excited about.


Jason View member profile	13th February 2017, 08:37 PM Post #43
I've been looking for a Lasting Lover Joined: 23 March 2007 Posts: 28,685 User: 3,149	QUOTE(cqmerqn @ Feb 13 2017, 07:24 PM) I hope Ciao Adios can debut top 40!! I hope so but I think she will do a Imagine Dragons this Friday.


gooddelta View member profile	13th February 2017, 08:56 PM Post #44
Hello? Joined: 8 March 2006 Posts: 83,050 User: 116	QUOTE(liamk97 @ Feb 13 2017, 06:08 PM) FYI, Rag'n'Bone Man's album actually climbs 151-1 - I assume there was some sort of leak last week? Do they still have that rule where if a certain number of album tracks are available pre-release (as is the case with Rag 'n' Bone Man), then the album can actually chart based on the streams of the already available tracks? I seem to recall Years & Years having a similar 150-1 type climb with Communion for the same reason. It's a completely ludicrous rule, because you've got an album charting that isn't available in full, but it could be the reason behind this.


Liam.k. View member profile	13th February 2017, 10:59 PM Post #45
BuzzJack Idol Joined: 8 December 2010 Posts: 50,975 User: 12,472	QUOTE(gooddelta @ Feb 13 2017, 08:56 PM) Do they still have that rule where if a certain number of album tracks are available pre-release (as is the case with Rag 'n' Bone Man), then the album can actually chart based on the streams of the already available tracks? I seem to recall Years & Years having a similar 150-1 type climb with Communion for the same reason. It's a completely ludicrous rule, because you've got an album charting that isn't available in full, but it could be the reason behind this. Now you mention it, that does ring a bell. I have a figure of like 20k worth of pre-release sales coming to mind in regards to Years and Years! If someone could shed some light, that'd be great.


Sour Candy View member profile	14th February 2017, 07:30 AM Post #46
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 22 December 2009 Posts: 30,356 User: 10,275	Seems that Joanne might stay in top 20 again this week! Very good (even if it doesn't)


Robbie View member profile	14th February 2017, 10:42 AM Post #47
BuzzJack Gold Member Joined: 4 April 2006 Posts: 3,445 User: 366	QUOTE(gooddelta @ Feb 13 2017, 08:56 PM) Do they still have that rule where if a certain number of album tracks are available pre-release (as is the case with Rag 'n' Bone Man), then the album can actually chart based on the streams of the already available tracks? I seem to recall Years & Years having a similar 150-1 type climb with Communion for the same reason. It's a completely ludicrous rule, because you've got an album charting that isn't available in full, but it could be the reason behind this. I've not heard of this rule but a quick check of the current version of the Album Chart Rules has the following: 7.1 Instant Gratification Incentives An Instant Grat mechanic run during an album pre-order will not disqualify the album pre-orders from contributing to the Chart position I'm not sure what a "mechanic run" is so don't know if this is the rule you were thinking of. However there is a rule about how many tracks need to be available for streaming before any of the streams count as sales: 9.4 Album Availability Streaming will only be factored into an album DUS where at least seven tracks (inclusive of singles) from an album are available to stream. This threshold will apply to the longest track listing available. Where an albums fullest track listing comprises 5 or 6 tracks, 100% of tracks must receive >0 streams That suggests that if only 4 tracks are available to stream then no streaming sales will be included. How many tracks had Rag 'n' Bone Man made available in advance for streaming (or possibly even downloading)?


Brer View member profile	14th February 2017, 04:54 PM Post #48
is my brain across your walls? Joined: 14 February 2009 Posts: 115,078 User: 8,300	Very impressive sales for Rag'n'Bone Man - was expecting it to be one that eventually racks up huge sales due to hanging around at the top of the chart all year but certainly didn't think he was going to get such a huge first week. An early contender to be #2 on the EOY chart I think (behind Ed Sheeran of course).


mdh View member profile	14th February 2017, 05:38 PM Post #49
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 19 December 2015 Posts: 20,102 User: 22,776	Opinions on where Cold will place? I expect it'll do a The Greatest and just miss out on top 40 before debuting high next week, what do we reckon? Realistically I can see it being around #50 this week.


Brightest Blue View member profile	14th February 2017, 05:48 PM Post #50
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 10 April 2016 Posts: 27,025 User: 23,155	QUOTE(mdh @ Feb 14 2017, 05:38 PM) Opinions on where Cold will place? I expect it'll do a The Greatest and just miss out on top 40 before debuting high next week, what do we reckon? Realistically I can see it being around #50 this week. 50-60


Bjork View member profile	14th February 2017, 06:47 PM Post #51
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 13 November 2015 Posts: 33,254 User: 22,665	why it would go top 40? was released today and has barely done anything, it's on 0.10 relative to Ed, so may have sold 600-800 copies today, sure less than 1,000... x 3 days, sure it's not enough to go anywhere near the top 75, plus won't have streams like most midweek releases


365 View member profile	15th February 2017, 10:43 AM Post #52
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 11 October 2013 Posts: 31,028 User: 19,931	Rag'n'Bone Man is on 92k, will easily cross 100k I mean, these are huge numbers for him. It's only Q1 and he has only had one hit ever.


Brightest Blue View member profile	15th February 2017, 10:45 AM Post #53
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 10 April 2016 Posts: 27,025 User: 23,155	Going to beat Little Mix?!


timjimlee View member profile	15th February 2017, 10:59 AM Post #54
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 27 January 2015 Posts: 1,518 User: 21,564	QUOTE(cqmerqn @ Feb 15 2017, 10:45 AM) Going to beat Little Mix?! With ease - good on him! It is looking like all the number 1 Album's in Q1 will appear in year end Top 100 (as per last year).


gooddelta View member profile	15th February 2017, 11:16 AM Post #55
Hello? Joined: 8 March 2006 Posts: 83,050 User: 116	QUOTE(Robbie @ Feb 14 2017, 10:42 AM) I've not heard of this rule but a quick check of the current version of the Album Chart Rules has the following: 7.1 Instant Gratification Incentives An Instant Grat mechanic run during an album pre-order will not disqualify the album pre-orders from contributing to the Chart position I'm not sure what a "mechanic run" is so don't know if this is the rule you were thinking of. However there is a rule about how many tracks need to be available for streaming before any of the streams count as sales: 9.4 Album Availability Streaming will only be factored into an album DUS where at least seven tracks (inclusive of singles) from an album are available to stream. This threshold will apply to the longest track listing available. Where an albums fullest track listing comprises 5 or 6 tracks, 100% of tracks must receive >0 streams That suggests that if only 4 tracks are available to stream then no streaming sales will be included. How many tracks had Rag 'n' Bone Man made available in advance for streaming (or possibly even downloading)? Human, Skin and Grace were either pre-album singles or grats. Wolves, Lay My Body Down, Life In Her Yet, Die Easy and Bitter End are all available on previous EPs and appear on the deluxe (some on the standard) version on the album. So yes, that explains it, at least eight tracks were available to stream or purchase as of last week, therefore making the 19 track album eligible to chart...despite more than half of it not being available...ludicrous This post has been edited by gooddelta: 15th February 2017, 11:17 AM


Bjork View member profile	15th February 2017, 03:16 PM Post #56
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 13 November 2015 Posts: 33,254 User: 22,665	there were 5 Grats from Rag n Bones album: Human, Skin, Grace, Odetta and Ego


JosephBoone View member profile	15th February 2017, 05:58 PM Post #57
you never forget your first time... Pronouns: he/him Joined: 19 April 2011 Posts: 121,693 User: 13,530	Wednesday Top 40 ONLY Update Source: Music Week Missing Data: Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon HD (all Tuesday) Singles 1 Ed Sheeran - Shape of You (58,037) 2 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human (39,856) 3 Ed Sheeran - Castle on the Hill (36,546) 4 Jax Jones feat. RAYE - You Don't Know Me (25,990) 5 ZAYN & Taylor Swift - I Don't Wanna Live Forever (25,550) 6-10 7 Katy Perry feat. Skip Marley - Chained To the Rhythm * 9 Dua Lipa - Be the One 11-20 11 Clean Bandit feat. Sean Paul & Anne-Marie - Rockabye 16 Train - Play That Song 17 Zara Larsson - I Would Like 21-30 22 Tinie Tempah feat. Tinashe - Text from Your Ex 25 Snakehips & MØ - Don't Leave 27 Rag'n'Bone Man - Skin ^ 31-40 31 Migos feat. Lil Uzi Vert - Bad and Boujee 38 Anne-Marie - Ciao Adios * 39 Drake feat. Wizkid & Kyla - One Dance ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Albums 1 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human (92,953) * 2 Elbow - Little Fictions (12,211) 3 Thunder - Rip It Up (9,997) * 4 Nines - One Foot Out (8,545) * 5 Motion Picture Cast Recording - La La Land OST (7,583) 6-10 6 Adele - 25 9 James Arthur - Back From the Edge 11-20 11 George Michael - Ladies and Gentlemen: The Best of George Michael 13 Bruno Mars - 24K Magic 14 Motion Picture Cast Recording - Trolls (OST) 15 Devlin - The Devil In * 16 The Shires - My Universe 17 David Bowie - Legacy 18 Whitney Houston - The Ultimate Collection ^ 21-30 23 Coldplay - A Head Full of Dreams 24 Una Healy - The Waiting Game * 25 Celine Dion - My Love: The Essential Collection ^ 30 Beyoncé - Lemonade ^ 31-40 33 Michael Jackson - Number Ones ^ 35 Emeli Sandé - Long Live the Angels 36 Amber Run - For a Moment, I Was Lost * 38 Michael Bublé - Nobody But Me 40 Michael Bolton - Songs of Cinema *


Brightest Blue View member profile	15th February 2017, 06:00 PM Post #58
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 10 April 2016 Posts: 27,025 User: 23,155	I really do hope Human manages to stay at 2. Does it have a good chance? Wow at those album sales for Rag'n'Bone Man! This post has been edited by cqmerqn: 15th February 2017, 06:01 PM


Hadji View member profile	15th February 2017, 06:00 PM Post #59
BuzzJack Platinum Member Joined: 20 November 2014 Posts: 12,668 User: 21,386	"One Dance" needs to f* off out of the top 40 This post has been edited by Hadji**: 15th February 2017, 06:03 PM


JosephBoone View member profile	15th February 2017, 06:02 PM Post #60
you never forget your first time... Pronouns: he/him Joined: 19 April 2011 Posts: 121,693 User: 13,530	QUOTE(Hadji @ Feb 15 2017, 06:00 PM) No one cares where "One Dance" is. We would care about it if it was out of the top 40 It's a climber so it's included in the update...