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12th August 2020, 03:29 PM
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thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch
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When did pointing out that the majority of immigrants are willing to work hard to be accepted by a western society (they will never even be fully integrated with) become the same as portraying them as "heroes"?
This all sounds very devil's advocate-y to me if I'm honest. |
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12th August 2020, 03:30 PM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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The posts above and generally from that end of the arguement do though. What do you expect when they're constantly deemed as sub-human stains on society from the most vocal in this country? Of course people are going to rebute that with the potential benefits of migration. |
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12th August 2020, 03:30 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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Of course but that's not what I think!
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12th August 2020, 05:12 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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We are NOT full. Refugees come here because they want a better life. They come here because they want to work. Are you seriously suggesting thate people should just stay in the country where they were born, no matter how much their lives are in danger? Yes, of course the US should do more but that isn't an excuse for our government to be so utterly inhumane. Suedy, have you ever tried to get a council house lately? If we're not full then why are there some families in my borough, LBN, being put up in hotels for months. There's a housing shortage and the more people who enter the country, the more homes are needed. Look after our own first and foremost. T |
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12th August 2020, 05:30 PM
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Radical Pink Troll
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Suedy, have you ever tried to get a council house lately? If we're not full then why are there some families in my borough, LBN, being put up in hotels for months. There's a housing shortage and the more people who enter the country, the more homes are needed. Look after our own first and foremost. T Almost 50% of houses sold in Wales last year were sold to people with no intention of living in them. Some were rented out but others were merely second homes. If people can do this then we definitely do have the room. Perhaps not where you’re living but the country is not full. |
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12th August 2020, 05:33 PM
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thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch
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white people have to live in HOTELS omg call the police and get all the refugees OUT IMMEDIATELY
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12th August 2020, 05:37 PM
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thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch
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Also PUH-LEASE London was always overpopulated and it's definitely not refugees' fault lmao are you f***ing kidding me :')
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12th August 2020, 05:37 PM
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thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch
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#WEAREFULL
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12th August 2020, 07:18 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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white people have to live in HOTELS omg call the police and get all the refugees OUT IMMEDIATELY Well not just white people anyone who needs accommodation of all background 😂. Tbf he means people on the housing list with nowhere to stay, so the government pays for the stay. |
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12th August 2020, 07:46 PM
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Queen of Soon
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Our lack of social housing is because *checks notes* aaaaah yes because we sold it all off to the lowest bidder, banned councils from building replacements for decades and then sat back and went “oh we have no social housing left. Must be the migrants fault”
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12th August 2020, 07:58 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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Suedy, have you ever tried to get a council house lately? If we're not full then why are there some families in my borough, LBN, being put up in hotels for months. There's a housing shortage and the more people who enter the country, the more homes are needed. Look after our own first and foremost. T Developers have permission to build one million homes in this country but they have chose not to do so. Councils still face strict limits on the number of houses they can build. Housing shortages are a result of government policy and greedy developers, not asylum seekers. |
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12th August 2020, 08:05 PM
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WINTER IS COMING
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Developers have permission to build one million homes in this country but they have chose not to do so. Councils still face strict limits on the number of houses they can build. Housing shortages are a result of government policy and greedy developers, not asylum seekers. Agree with this a lot, then you have to factor in people in to equation as well. How often do you see campaigns from residents when empty units are turned in to shops or people that live in villages kick off a fuss to new housing estates being built. There's a huge demand for housing, but the problem is the housing market is built for 2 people. It's very difficult to own your own property as a single person, especially if you want to own a house rather than a leasehold property. |
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14th August 2020, 11:49 AM
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I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
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I.. just don't know what to say. I do think it's likely the questions have been engineered to give the appearance of a certain result (the followup 'how serious is the issue' is something that is going to have some people saying it is serious even if they are pro-immigration) but within those results there will be a lot of people who would be incredibly happy to spend vast amounts of money using our military to turn away desperate people. This could be all fixed if as with above posts Britain could invest more in housing - to be this concerned about the refugees when they're coming in such low numbers is to say nothing of what it will be like in the future. |
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14th August 2020, 02:06 PM
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is in hibernation
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Almost half of even Labour voters supporting, wow.
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19th August 2020, 09:01 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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I have been genuinely shocked at some of the DM comments about the asylum seeker, 16, who drowned when his canoe sank. Awful. No compassion at all.
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20th August 2020, 02:12 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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I have been genuinely shocked at sme of the DM comments about the asylum seeker, 16, who drowned when his canoe sank. Awful. No compassion at all. I literally came here to post this. I actually got upset reading it. I've actually saw so many Facebook 'friends' comment on the news articles and go on about how he should have stayed in France and how he only wanted to come here to take advantage of our benefits system blah blah. The usual bollocks. I just can't relate to that mentality. How people can use a laughing emoji and celebrate a DEATH of someone trying to make a better life for themself....how can you have that mindset? It's f***ing evil. I'm ashamed to be a human being sometimes. Some of us are truly are vile, disgusting animals. |
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