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> In Denial (with Pet Shop Boys) ● 20 Years
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Padamic Tension
post 21st October 2019, 09:53 PM
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I think in denial would have done better as the kylie fans would have bought it too.
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post 22nd October 2019, 01:35 PM
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While Kylie was not seen as popular during that era she was still managing to sell 60k per single, combined with the loyal Pet Shop Boys fans the single did stand some chance of success.
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post 23rd October 2019, 10:00 AM
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I dunno, in a way I kind of like that it's a relatively undiscovered gem as it's a special song to me.

Although on the other hand, it could have been a bold move to release this and push the envelope in a society that had a markedly more homophobic attitude at that time.
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post 23rd October 2019, 10:25 AM
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Very good point as it was a very different time in terms of attitude towards it.
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post 23rd October 2019, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Oct 23 2019, 11:00 AM) *
I dunno, in a way I kind of like that it's a relatively undiscovered gem as it's a special song to me.

Although on the other hand, it could have been a bold move to release this and push the envelope in a society that had a markedly more homophobic attitude at that time.


I had not considered this from that point of view and it is an excellent point to highlight, as it is easy to forget the meaning of the song.
During this time, they was a stark change in the way people were viewed for "coming out" which is far cry to how it is perceived now.
There was alot of progress in the late 90s but looking back, it is incredibly hard to believe that people were so narrow minded in a time that does not feel that long ago.
Music, has always been a great way of breaking down barriers, but, with Kylie not at her most popular at this time, the impact of such a song would have become minimal.
Had Kylie, released such a song in the 00's the impact would have been so great.
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post 24th October 2019, 11:53 PM
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If it released anywhere from 00-10 it would have done very well.
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post 25th October 2019, 09:49 AM
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Gorgeous song, suits them both well. I remember buying the album (quite cheaply it was reduced quite quickly, sorry PSBs) and just love this song and I Don't What You Want....hate New York City Boy. Dreadful, can't listen to it, such a poor attempt at replicating the fabulousness of Go West.

Ah, just listening to In Denial again right now, opening strings give me goosebumps.

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post 25th October 2019, 11:37 AM
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I like New York city boy but agree it's a cheap attempt at re creating go west.its a fairly good album overall and prob the last album I enjoyed from them but I rushed out buying it for in denial.
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post 25th October 2019, 01:43 PM
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New York City Boy i can take or leave.
Go West is one of the Pet Shop Boys signature hits and this tries but fails to step into that territory.
New York City Boy is the Get Outta My Way from Kylie, trying to cash in on a previous song that is far superior.
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post 26th October 2019, 01:58 AM
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New york city boy does have a catchy chorus.
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post 26th October 2019, 02:12 PM
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'Go West' grates on me and it's been overdone, I'd take 'New York City Boy' over it any day.
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post 26th October 2019, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(SKOB @ Oct 21 2019, 12:24 PM) *
But "Drunk" was a top ten hit on charts?


Yup - it actually had a higher peak than both their previous singles (#15 and #14). It wasn't a bad single release at all, even if it probably got that high due to being released in the quiet post-Christmas market.

I suspect In Denial didn't become a single due to Parlophone wanting to re-launch her with something big rather than some random collaboration.
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post 26th October 2019, 05:01 PM
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I think I remember reading the pet shop boys really wanted in denial as a single and it was on the cards,maybe kylie was in negotiations with parlophone at that time and that's why it wasnt a single.
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post 28th October 2019, 02:37 PM
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The rumour i heard was the Pet Shop Boys were not happy that some of their work after that with Kylie, never made its way onto a Kylie album and they were disappointed by this.
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post 28th October 2019, 10:51 PM
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I knew there was some work together I think around light years time but does anyone know how many or what songs,?
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post 29th October 2019, 09:05 PM
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This i don't know or none of the songs leaked that i am aware of.
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post 2nd November 2019, 01:52 PM
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Its actually not that bad really The Fall and The Young Knives are also playing - cant be too bad - but then again

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post 2nd November 2019, 03:36 PM
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Def so plus it was the days of the great 2 Cds single releases aswell.
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