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BuzzJack Music Forum _ UK Charts _ iTunes Weekly Thread W/C 18th January 2019

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds 17th January 2019, 11:07 PM

iTunes Weekly Thread
For discussion of the iTunes Singles chart.

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New Releases
courtesy of ManicKangaroo

Above & Beyond feat Marty Longstaff – Flying By Candlelight
AJ Tracey - Psych Out!
Alok feat Conor Maynard - Pray
Anton Powers & Redondo - Make Your Move
Ariana Grande – 7 Rings
Aydan – Dust
Backstreet Boys - Breathe [GRAT]
Bananarama – Dance Music
Becky G - LBD
Ben Howard - Heave Ho
Bis - Sound Of A Heartbreak
Bob Sinclar feat Robbie Williams - Electrico Romantico
Bryan Adams - Shine A Light
Dan Caplen - Love Me The Same
Dean Lewis - 7 Minutes
Delaney Jane & Shaun Frank – Throwback
DubVision feat Handed – Are You Listening
Gorgon City - Lick Shot
Grimes - We Appreciate Power (Remixes)
Hannah Grace – With You
Hikaru Utada - Face My Fears
Jack & Jack - Barcelona [GRAT]
James TW - You & Me
Jesper Jenset - Red Eyes
Kate Nash - Trash
Kerli – Better [GRAT]
Labrinth – Don't Fence Me In
Lauren Aquilina - If Looks Could Kill
Logic - Keanu Reeves
Mabel - Don't Call Me Up
Maren Morris – Girl
Mike Perry - Runaway
Nervo – Habit
Peking Duk & Jack River - Sugar
Pink Panda & Nyanda - All Fruits Ripe
R3hab – Bad!
Royal South - Cry, Cry
Saara Aalto - Let It Go
Sam Feldt & Kate Ryan - Gold
Sam Martin – Sabotage
Sean Paul feat Stefflon Don – Shot & Wine
Sigrid - Don't Feel Like Crying
Slushii feat Sofia Reyes - Never Let You Go
Sofi Tukker & ZHU - Mi Rumba
UB40 - You Haven't Called
VINAI feat Fatman Scoop - Wild
Why Don't We – Big Plans
Young The Giant - Superposition (Reprise)
Yung Pinch feat Lil Skies - Nightmares
Zeds Dead & Delta Heavy - Lift You Up 

Posted by: Bré 18th January 2019, 01:45 AM

'Wow.' arrow up.gif to #10 *.*

Posted by: digitalking 18th January 2019, 04:35 AM

Ariana coming for onslaught

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 18th January 2019, 05:05 AM

39. Lizzo - Juice
58. Sigrid - Don’t Feel Like Crying
69. Royal South - Cry, Cry
101. Maren Morris - GIRL
104. RUSS (SPLASH), Ms Banks & Lethal Bizzle - Gun Lean Remix (feat. Taze, LD & Digga D)
108. James Morrison - My Love Goes On (feat. Joss Stone)
145. Mustard & Migos - Pure Water
151. Hozier - Almost (Sweet Music)
191. Bryan Adams - Shine a Light

201. AJ Tracey - Psych Out!
253. Hikaru Utada & Skrillex - Face My Fears (English Version)
289. Loyle Carner, Rebel Kleff & Kiko Bun - You Don't Know
1094. Sean Paul - Shot & Wine (feat. Stefflon Don)

Posted by: digitalking 18th January 2019, 05:51 AM

Ariana in at 31

Posted by: JosephAvery 18th January 2019, 07:15 AM

arrow up.gif 18. Ariana Grande - 7 rings

Posted by: shindymindy 18th January 2019, 07:19 AM

7 rings is terrible

Posted by: Cqmerqn 18th January 2019, 07:23 AM

QUOTE(shindymindy @ Jan 18 2019, 07:19 AM) *
7 rings is terrible

No it’s not.

Hopefully 7 rings can debut #1 cheer.gif

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 18th January 2019, 07:27 AM

QUOTE(shindymindy @ Jan 18 2019, 07:19 AM) *
7 rings is terrible

Are you sure? It sounds MASSIVE to me.

Can see it easily debuting at number 1.

Posted by: Lomadz 18th January 2019, 07:36 AM

Ariana song is MASSIVE! HIT

Posted by: Bjork 18th January 2019, 07:45 AM

Sure she will be #1 but 7 rings is the worst thing ever, a song based on My Favourite Things, didn't Nu Flow did it already a a few years ago
Big disappointment number 4597843978234 from Ariana

Posted by: shindymindy 18th January 2019, 07:56 AM

It will prob be huge but it’s not doing anything for me.

It probably would after a few more listens but I’m not even sure I’ll give it anymore listens.

Posted by: Cremey 18th January 2019, 07:59 AM

QUOTE(Bjork @ Jan 18 2019, 07:45 AM) *
Sure she will be #1 but 7 rings is the worst thing ever, a song based on My Favourite Things, didn't Nu Flow did it already a a few years ago
Big disappointment number 4597843978234 from Ariana

Big Brovaz? That was 16 years ago laugh.gif

I love it. Should and will be huge.

Posted by: Queen Rosemary 18th January 2019, 08:00 AM

QUOTE(Bjork @ Jan 18 2019, 07:45 AM) *
Sure she will be #1 but 7 rings is the worst thing ever, a song based on My Favourite Things, didn't Nu Flow did it already a a few years ago
Big disappointment number 4597843978234 from Ariana

Big Brovaz bbz
"Nu Flow" was their debut hit

Posted by: Bjork 18th January 2019, 08:03 AM

I hate the cheap original of My Favourite things, so using it in a modern song is the worst prop anyone can use

Posted by: dobbo 18th January 2019, 08:03 AM

Is Ariana now at that stage where can "fart out a song " and it'll be instantly massive, to use a popular phrase on here.

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 18th January 2019, 08:25 AM

5+35. Ariana Grande - 7 rings

Posted by: shindymindy 18th January 2019, 08:26 AM

QUOTE(dobbo @ Jan 18 2019, 08:03 AM) *
Is Ariana now at that stage where can "fart out a song " and it'll be instantly massive, to use a popular phrase on here.


This exactly

Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 18th January 2019, 08:35 AM

Tbh, if it was anyone other than Ari, I'd be pissed. But she deserves the world so have ALL the #1's and chart success tbh. She deserves them more than Drake.

Kinda gutted that NTLTC and GIAW didn't make #1 though </3

Posted by: omrimayo 18th January 2019, 08:36 AM

QUOTE(dobbo @ Jan 18 2019, 10:03 AM) *
Is Ariana now at that stage where can "fart out a song " and it'll be instantly massive, to use a popular phrase on here.

She is in that era, yes. Nothing we can do about it, I love her but the new single is not a number 1 song, but it will be.

Posted by: alby 18th January 2019, 10:09 AM

arrow up.gif 1. Ariana Grande - 7 Rings

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 18th January 2019, 10:24 AM

QUOTE(Bjork @ Jan 18 2019, 07:45 AM) *
Sure she will be #1 but 7 rings is the worst thing ever, a song based on My Favourite Things, didn't Nu Flow did it already a a few years ago
Big disappointment number 4597843978234 from Ariana


Oh God, here she goes with her hyperbolic "ever ever ever" diatribe.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 18th January 2019, 10:40 AM

01. Ariana Grande - 7 Rings
14. Why Don't We - Big Plans
18. Ariana Grade - 7 Rings
29. Jack Savoretti - Candlelight
39. Mabel - Don't Call Me Up
49. Sigrid - Don’t Feel Like Crying
97. James Morrison - My Love Goes On (feat. Joss Stone)

Posted by: SKOB 18th January 2019, 10:51 AM

If you are referring to Big Brovaz, Nu Flow was released in 2002, that's 16 years

Posted by: Bjork 18th January 2019, 10:55 AM

yes I know now, somebody already replied, we cannot all check wikipedia 24/7, I did now too

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 18th January 2019, 10:56 AM

QUOTE(SKOB @ Jan 18 2019, 10:51 AM) *
If you are referring to Big Brovaz, Nu Flow was released in 2002, that's 16 years


I think it was actually 'Favourite Things', not 'Nu Flow'.

Posted by: M4NG0 18th January 2019, 11:18 AM

Yeah that Ariana song is doing nothing for me but I've got no doubt it will debut at #1.

In contrast, I'm quite enjoying that surprise Bob Sinclar/Robbie Williams collab, but obviously that will do nothing at all.

New Mabel is good on first listen too, I wonder how that will do.

Posted by: SKOB 18th January 2019, 11:32 AM

Bob Sinclar and Robbie? Lol could anything be more early noughties biggrin.gif

Posted by: Tombo 18th January 2019, 11:35 AM

Can Drake please surprise release? laugh.gif

Posted by: Scene 18th January 2019, 12:40 PM

Oh no new Ari is sh!t. sad.gif How could she go from the sublime (NTLTC, GIAW, B, TUN) to THIS?! It's all style over substance. Not a fan.

Posted by: Queen Rosemary 18th January 2019, 12:47 PM

To be fair Thank U Next was a step away from the sublime, more about her profile than anything so this comes as no surprise to me. It’s a shame NTLTC didn’t quite manage this success as that was oh so deserved.

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 18th January 2019, 01:33 PM

1+16. Ariana Grande - 7 rings
31. Mabel - Don't Call Me Up
46. Sigrid - Don’t Feel Like Crying
53. Logic - Keanu Reeves
65. Hikaru Utada & Skrillex - Face My Fears (English Version)
68. Maren Morris - GIRL
69. RUSS (SPLASH), Ms Banks & Lethal Bizzle - Gun Lean Remix (feat. Taze, LD & Digga D)
85. James Morrison - My Love Goes On (feat. Joss Stone)
99. AJ Tracey - Psych Out
100. Ben Howard - Heave Ho
120. Hozier - Almost (Sweet Music)
131. Mustard & Migos - Pure Water
137. Bryan Adams - Shine a Light
138. James Blake - Mile High (feat. Metro Boomin & Travis Scott)
153. Bananarama - Dance Music
183. Sean Paul - Shot & Wine (feat. Stefflon Don)

227. Dean Lewis - 7 Minutes
261. Loyle Carner, Rebel Kleff & Kiko Bun - You Don't Know
263. Lauren Aquilina - If Looks Could Kill
321. Anton Powers & Redondo - Make Your Move
364. Backstreet Boys - Breathe
594. Gorgon City - Lick Shot
1198. Bis - Sound of a Heartbreak
1199. Saara Aalto - Let It Go
1200. Hikaru Utada & Skrillex - Face My Fears (Japanese Version)
1201. Delta Heavy & Zeds Dead - Lift You Up

Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 18th January 2019, 01:37 PM

Ooft Maren top 70 *.*

Posted by: Houdini 18th January 2019, 01:38 PM

Ariana Grande seriously needs to chill now! The omnipresence is becoming psychotic.

The worst thing for me personally is that her music always gets overplayed in my work place so this will just eventually add more petrol to the fire once wind has been gotten of this new release.

Posted by: Hadji 18th January 2019, 01:57 PM

Ari becoming the female Drake by releasing songs out of nowhere and going straight to #1 with them

Posted by: Scene 18th January 2019, 01:59 PM

QUOTE(Queen Rosemary @ Jan 18 2019, 01:47 PM) *
To be fair Thank U Next was a step away from the sublime, more about her profile than anything so this comes as no surprise to me. It’s a shame NTLTC didn’t quite manage this success as that was oh so deserved.


True but it's grown on me massively and now feels like a #1. I can't see myself ever listening to 7 Rings out of choice. Hopefully it's just a blip.

Posted by: SKOB 18th January 2019, 02:02 PM

TUN was better than NTLTC imo! Actually it was one of the best songs last year.

I have listened to 7 Rings just twice so can't say anything about that yet but it's catchy.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 18th January 2019, 02:03 PM

19. Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved
27. CamelPhat & Cristoph - Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)
29. Mabel - Don't Call Me Up
45. Sigrid - Don’t Feel Like Crying
47. Olly Murs - Excuses

Posted by: The Snake 18th January 2019, 02:09 PM

QUOTE
Hikaru Utada & Skrillex - Face My Fears (English Version)


Wow, what a disappointment when i listened to this, on paper it sounded like it might have been interesting, but alas, just some more generic future bass production sad.gif

7 Rings I considerably prefer to Thank U next which was rather boring I thought. At least its got some vibrancy to it, unlike Thank U Next which I am sad to say, sounded like Ariana was on autopilot with the overchilled vocal style.

Also, I still don't know why she swore in Thank U next, as it would make parents less likely to let their children listen to the song (and a lot of young children are fans of Ariana Grande), and I am sure a lot of parents got a shock when their children played the wrong version on spotify with the bad language!

Posted by: Euphorique 18th January 2019, 02:10 PM

QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jan 18 2019, 10:56 AM) *
I think it was actually 'Favourite Things', not 'Nu Flow'.


Correct!


Posted by: The Snake 18th January 2019, 02:15 PM

I remember being very disappointed with Big Brovaz' follow up singles back then. I really liked Nu Flow, but 'Favourite Things' I found a bit annoying and gimmicky with the sample.

Posted by: pippa 18th January 2019, 02:30 PM

Bananarama - Dance Music, didnt know it was out.

Posted by: The Snake 18th January 2019, 02:39 PM

QUOTE(pippa @ Jan 18 2019, 02:30 PM) *
Bananarama - Dance Music, didnt know it was out.


Unfortunately its not actually dance music, but it is a good electropop song, quite 2009 sounding too I think (it reminds me of Little Boots in style)!

Posted by: Jason 18th January 2019, 03:03 PM

Mabel and Sigrid new ones are amazing. wub.gif
I wish they were much higher on iTunes than that overrated girl called Ariana Grande.

Posted by: Sid_ 18th January 2019, 03:04 PM

7 Rings is terrible, sounds like a 'Migos' songs.

Posted by: JosephAvery 18th January 2019, 03:49 PM

I love 7 rings but Favourite Things will always be my favourite use of the sample *.*

Posted by: Joe. 18th January 2019, 04:04 PM

It's not JLS bad, but I'm so over musical theatre, specifically Sound of Music samples. the rest of the song is a lot of fun in a 'white girl wasted' kind of way.

Posted by: digitalking 18th January 2019, 05:17 PM

Ariana's lead is much smaller here than in the US - it's decimating there (more sold than entire top 5) while here it's just doing decent for a #1 on iTunes.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 18th January 2019, 05:20 PM

She’s almost outselling #2 by double?

Posted by: Tombo 18th January 2019, 05:46 PM

I used to have Favourite Things on CD single, it was one of my favourite songs back then.

Posted by: The Snake 18th January 2019, 07:41 PM

QUOTE(Joe. @ Jan 18 2019, 04:04 PM) *
It's not JLS bad, but I'm so over musical theatre, specifically Sound of Music samples. the rest of the song is a lot of fun in a 'white girl wasted' kind of way.


Haha, see also the recent 'Time To Say Goodbye' sampling on 'Goodbye' by Guetta/Derulo/Minaj/William!

Posted by: The Snake 18th January 2019, 07:45 PM

QUOTE(Tombo @ Jan 18 2019, 05:46 PM) *
I used to have Favourite Things on CD single, it was one of my favourite songs back then.


It actually sounds a lot better though listening to it now, but it's still definitively nowhere near as good as 'Nu Flow' imo!

Posted by: ElectroBoy 18th January 2019, 07:46 PM

arrow up.gif 13. Lewis Capaldi - Someone You loved

Posted by: dll 18th January 2019, 07:58 PM

8. Wow. - Post Malone

This was slowed down by unfortunate timing of release, but it's doing great now. If there's a music video, I predict it will become massive.

Posted by: GTH 18th January 2019, 08:06 PM

The Ariana track is so disappointing. I can't see this one being a long running big hit. Expecting a similar chart run to Imagine. Time will tell.

Posted by: dll 18th January 2019, 08:09 PM

Just now hearing Ariana track - terrible.


Posted by: The Snake 18th January 2019, 08:13 PM

Well at least Ariana is experimenting and doing different styles of tracks. It would have been boring if she would have done another 'Thank U Next' style chilled R&B track to follow up the mega hit.

Posted by: Jordan Lee 18th January 2019, 08:20 PM

QUOTE(The Snake @ Jan 18 2019, 08:13 PM) *
Well at least Ariana is experimenting and doing different styles of tracks. It would have been boring if she would have done another 'Thank U Next' style chilled R&B track to follow up the mega hit.


1000% agree. It’s good to show off some diversity and I’m glad she’s releasing loads of solo tracks now too as she was very feature artists heavy during her first and second albums.

The track itself isn’t as bad as some are making out either. It’s a fun track with a great video.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 18th January 2019, 08:21 PM

Can we not at the Ariana hate pls, the song is iconic

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 18th January 2019, 08:24 PM

20. Mabel - Don't Call Me Up
24. CamelPhat & Cristoph - Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)
34. Lizzo - Juice
46. Sigrid - Don’t Feel Like Crying
49. Logic - Keanu Reeves
57. RUSS (SPLASH), Ms Banks & Lethal Bizzle - Gun Lean Remix (feat. Taze, LD & Digga D)
58. Hikaru Utada & Skrillex - Face My Fears (English Version)
72. Swarmz & Tion Wayne - Bally
74. Ben Howard - Heave Ho
82. AJ Tracey - Psych Out
103. Mustard & Migos - Pure Water
110. Bryan Adams - Shine a Light
116. Sean Paul - Shot & Wine (feat. Stefflon Don)
125. Bananarama - Dance Music
130. James Blake - Mile High (feat. Metro Boomin & Travis Scott)
195. Dean Lewis - 7 Minutes

237. Anton Powers & Redondo - Make Your Move
379. Gorgon City - Lick Shot
419. Above & Beyond Group Therapy - Flying by Candlelight (feat. Marty Longstaff)
496. Becky G. - LBD
817. Hikaru Utada & Skrillex - Face My Fears (Japanese Version)
914. Delta Heavy & Zeds Dead - Lift You Up
1036. Saara Aalto - Let It Go
1177. Bob Sinclar - Electrico Romantico (feat. Robbie Williams)
1330. Take A Daytrip & Octavian - Stressed
1335. Dan Caplen - Love Me the Same

Posted by: ElectroBoy 18th January 2019, 08:33 PM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Jan 18 2019, 08:21 PM) *
Can we not at the Ariana hate pls, the song is iconic


Iconically shit?

Posted by: sammy01 18th January 2019, 09:59 PM

Everything she has released after No tears left to cry has been a let down tbh.

I'm slightly surprised the hype is still there for each new song when her output has been decidely dodgy. It does feel like radio and the industry want her songs to succeed no matter what the quality. I guess we have been so starved of a new proper superstar artist for so long everyone has decided Ariana is it.

Posted by: JosephAvery 18th January 2019, 10:06 PM

thank u, next has been an undeniably popular song with the GP anyway though - it's a phrase I see quoted ALL over my timeline, undoubtedly one of the biggest hits of 2018 in terms of cultural impact. The song itself is solid for me, not her very best but a great song regardless. I think it's harsh and slightly unfair to say it's not genuine popularity with that song because it really did catch on in a massive way.

Posted by: Joe. 18th January 2019, 10:22 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 18 2019, 09:59 PM) *
Everything she has released after No tears left to cry has been a let down tbh.

I'm slightly surprised the hype is still there for each new song when her output has been decidely dodgy. It does feel like radio and the industry want her songs to succeed no matter what the quality. I guess we have been so starved of a new proper superstar artist for so long everyone has decided Ariana is it.


Dodgy to you...Thank U Next was one of the biggest off the bat hits for a female artist with no support ever. It went straight to #1 on Spotify before it was even added to any playlists. I think you’re basing this just off the songs not clicking with you personally which is why it doesn’t quite make sense.

Posted by: sammy01 18th January 2019, 10:50 PM

Does anyone think Thank U, Next was a great song though?

I just think the music isn't matching the chart placings or hype right now.

I'm no Gaga fan but I recognise her imperial phase she released some great songs, same with Rihanna. Ariana seems to be getting the hits without the quality being there.

Posted by: Joe. 18th January 2019, 10:52 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 18 2019, 10:50 PM) *
Does anyone think Thank U, Next was a great song though?


It’s one of the best songs of 2018? Loads of people love it, clearly laugh.gif again, this is your personal dislike of a song driving the narrative.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 18th January 2019, 10:55 PM

I’d actually say that ‘thank u, next’ was the biggest song of 2018 in terms of cultural impact and rightfully so.

Posted by: Steve201 18th January 2019, 11:22 PM

Getting back to decent music though - 1975 with a great performance on Graham!

Posted by: andeeeeyhart 18th January 2019, 11:27 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 18 2019, 10:50 PM) *
Does anyone think Thank U, Next was a great song though?


Clearly loads of people do, it wouldn't have been anywhere near as huge otherwise.

Posted by: 777666jason 18th January 2019, 11:37 PM

I really want to believe ariana is a fantastic artist but she sings so high that a lot of the time i have no idea what she singing, she should come with subtitles

Posted by: andeeeeyhart 18th January 2019, 11:47 PM

I think if Ariana wasn't as huge as she's been this past year, there wouldn't be as much of a backlash against her on pop forums. Now that's she's almost in the Drake territory of everything she releases being huge, the hype is going to naturally seem disproportionate to the quality, and the idea of her being massively overrated will be thrown around frequently.

Don't get me wrong, I get kinda where people are coming from, in that nothing she's released this past few months has matched the quality of No Tears Left To Cry, but I think a lot of the comments slating her recent output are pretty overblown and exaggerated, and I feel that wouldn't be the case if she wasn't so commercially massive right now.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 18th January 2019, 11:58 PM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Jan 18 2019, 10:55 PM) *
I’d actually say that ‘thank u, next’ was the biggest song of 2018 in terms of cultural impact and rightfully so.


So what cultural impact has the song had?

Posted by: JosephAvery 19th January 2019, 12:04 AM

QUOTE(ElectroBoy @ Jan 18 2019, 11:58 PM) *
So what cultural impact has the song had?

I see "thank u, next" used on Twitter on a daily basis now, often in a context entirely unrelated to Ari because the phrase has caught on. There were also so many "one taught me love, one taught me patience and one taught me pain" memes going around when it came out. As far as cultural impact goes, I'd say the only song that really rivals it from last year is In My Feelings.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 19th January 2019, 12:06 AM

QUOTE(ElectroBoy @ Jan 18 2019, 11:58 PM) *
So what cultural impact has the song had?

Are you Patrick Star? Because you must live under a rock.

Posted by: Joe. 19th January 2019, 12:20 AM

QUOTE(ElectroBoy @ Jan 18 2019, 11:58 PM) *
So what cultural impact has the song had?



....

Posted by: UltraReputation 19th January 2019, 12:26 AM

Fab to see Mabel doing so well atm, hope this can be a big hit for her 😍

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Jan 18 2019, 11:22 PM) *
Getting back to decent music though - 1975 with a great performance on Graham!

The irony x kink.gif

Posted by: sammy01 19th January 2019, 12:53 AM

QUOTE(andeeeeyhart @ Jan 18 2019, 11:27 PM) *
Clearly loads of people do, it wouldn't have been anywhere near as huge otherwise.


That is like saying Who let the dogs out or Crazy frog were quality songs because they were huge.

I have no doubt Ariana is culturally hugely revelant, It is like every girl having red hair like Rihanna had, only Rihanna had Only Girl, What's my name, Love the way you lie etc.

Posted by: Jordan Lee 19th January 2019, 12:56 AM

Ariana is succeeding for me because she’s showing off her versatility.

NTLTC would’ve probably went to #1 any other week last year and it’s a shame it missed out but for me she’s been long over due this kind of success what she’s getting and im pleased she’s released such a variation of music this past year too. One song like NTLTC is amazing as is one song like thank u next I’d only have an issue if she was getting huge hit after huge hit with no growth or personality being there and she definitely has both of those things in abundance.

Manchester has also probably helped her UK sales and profile out too but I don’t think it’s just down to that as she seems to be the #1 artist everywhere at the moment.


Posted by: Jordan Lee 19th January 2019, 01:36 AM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 18 2019, 10:50 PM) *
Does anyone think Thank U, Next was a great song though?

I just think the music isn't matching the chart placings or hype right now.

I'm no Gaga fan but I recognise her imperial phase she released some great songs, same with Rihanna. Ariana seems to be getting the hits without the quality being there.


Ariana just needs a huge album now. In terms of singles success she’s kinda at the level of those two at their peaks but I wouldn’t put her on their level asa whole.

With Gagas imperial phase that album sold 3 million copies just in the UK and Rihanna’s Loud sold 2 million plus GGGB if you class that as her phase is very close to being on 2 million or has just recently done that.

I hope that with AG5 Ariana can get that huge album. Not that her albums haven’t been big but I guess non chart followers would assume they’d sold a lot more.

Posted by: Houdini 19th January 2019, 02:07 AM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 18 2019, 10:50 PM) *
Does anyone think Thank U, Next was a great song though?

I just think the music isn't matching the chart placings or hype right now.

This is nothing new tbh. The charts have always been like that.


For me I don't think her music is that bad, it's just tiring to hear constantly and in my case it's all by accident/force. She will always have my respect for how she dealt with the Manchester attacks but on the music side of things like I said earlier in the thread she just needs to chill with the wave of new music.

Posted by: sammy01 19th January 2019, 02:48 AM

QUOTE(Houdini @ Jan 19 2019, 02:07 AM) *
This is nothing new tbh. The charts have always been like that.
For me I don't think her music is that bad, it's just tiring to hear constantly and in my case it's all by accident/force. She will always have my respect for how she dealt with the Manchester attacks but on the music side of things like I said earlier in the thread she just needs to chill with the wave of new music.


I think given Sweetner's relative under performed they are throwing lots of things at the wall seeing what sticks.

I guess it is the way the charts are now, every time she releases a new song it's 'Omg new Ariana song we must here/download this' so each new song gets a huge push and hype and great start. In the old days a song premiered a while before release so if it wasnt catching on it tended to under perform upon release. Ariana doesn't have to worry about that just which songs end up being sustained hits and memes and blow up social media.

It is a shame they seem to be focused on gimmicks than crafting genuinely great songs. She can obviously sing and when she has a song like No tears she fits the superstar bill. For now for me though it's a bit try hard to catch on than trying to create quality music.

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 19th January 2019, 02:55 AM

17. Mabel - Don't Call Me Up
22. CamelPhat & Cristoph - Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)
57. Hikaru Utada & Skrillex - Face My Fears (English Version)
113. Sean Paul - Shot & Wine (feat. Stefflon Don)
117. James Blake - Mile High (feat. Metro Boomin & Travis Scott)
118. Bananarama - Dance Music
171. Anton Powers & Redondo - Make Your Move

283. Gorgon City - Lick Shot
401. Above & Beyond Group Therapy - Flying by Candlelight (feat. Marty Longstaff)
1123. Take A Daytrip & Octavian - Stressed
1150. Bob Sinclar - Electrico Romantico (feat. Robbie Williams)

Posted by: omrimayo 19th January 2019, 06:31 AM

QUOTE(Steve201 @ Jan 19 2019, 01:22 AM) *
Getting back to decent music though - 1975 with a great performance on Graham!

What did they performed?

Posted by: SKOB 19th January 2019, 08:15 AM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 04:48 AM) *
She can obviously sing and when she has a song like sings pop songs like No tears she fits the superstar bill. For now for me though it's a bit try hard to catch on than trying to create quality music.


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Don't even try to say that Thank U Next wasn't a long lasting big hit.

Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 19th January 2019, 08:34 AM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 02:48 AM) *
I think given Sweetner's relative under performed they are throwing lots of things at the wall seeing what sticks.

I guess it is the way the charts are now, every time she releases a new song it's 'Omg new Ariana song we must here/download this' so each new song gets a huge push and hype and great start. In the old days a song premiered a while before release so if it wasnt catching on it tended to under perform upon release. Ariana doesn't have to worry about that just which songs end up being sustained hits and memes and blow up social media.

It is a shame they seem to be focused on gimmicks than crafting genuinely great songs. She can obviously sing and when she has a song like No tears she fits the superstar bill. For now for me though it's a bit try hard to catch on than trying to create quality music.
The fact she is constantly breaking Spotify records shows that people are interested to HEAR what she's done. They're not bothered about the "gimmick" as much as you like to believe they are.

"But it's high on playlists".. true, but curiosity plays a huge part in the first couple of days at least, playlisting just prolongs and sustains it's success. So tbh, I think the whole "too focussed on the gimmick" argument is weak. The song is a success in it's own term.. when people stream, they don't see the gimmick. They hear the song. Ofc it's not going to appeal to everyone straight away or ever, but to discredit the song and it's succeas "because it's too gimmicky" is a bit of a reach imo.

(I say this as someone who's on the fence about her new song)

Posted by: Steve201 19th January 2019, 09:53 AM

QUOTE(omrimayo @ Jan 19 2019, 06:31 AM) *
What did they performed?


The current single - It's Not Living!

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 19th January 2019, 10:29 AM

How was Sweetener a relative underperformance?

Posted by: sammy01 19th January 2019, 10:41 AM

QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jan 19 2019, 10:29 AM) *
How was Sweetener a relative underperformance?


Wasnt it one of the most anticipated releases of 2018 and it didn't go platinum. I know sales are in the dumps but I think most expected it to go at least platinum.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 19th January 2019, 10:52 AM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 10:41 AM) *
Wasnt it one of the most anticipated releases of 2018 and it didn't go platinum. I know sales are in the dumps but I think most expected it to go at least platinum.


That's something only two artist albums managed to achieve last year.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 19th January 2019, 11:00 AM

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arrow up.gif 15. Mabel - Don’t Call Me Up

Posted by: sammy01 19th January 2019, 11:02 AM

QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jan 19 2019, 10:52 AM) *
That's something only two artist albums managed to achieve last year.


You didn't think Ariana Grande was going to be one of the top 2 artist albums last year?

Posted by: Eric_Blob 19th January 2019, 11:36 AM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 11:02 AM) *
You didn't think Ariana Grande was going to be one of the top 2 artist albums last year?


No. Who on earth would expect that lol? Even people like Rihanna have never accomplished that. Usually it's people like Ed Sheeran, Take That, Coldplay, Adele, etc. who you might expect to have one of the 2 best-selling albums of the year.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 19th January 2019, 11:54 AM

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Posted by: ElectroBoy 19th January 2019, 12:27 PM

01. Ariana Grande - 7 Rings
06. Jax Years - Play
13. Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved
14. Mabel - Don't Call Me Up
21. CamelPhat & Cristoph - Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)
28. The 1975 - It's Not Living (If It's Not With You)
29. Sub Focus & Dimension - Desire
32. Jack Savoretti - Candlelight
33. FISHER - Losing It
53. Sigrid - Don’t Feel Like Crying
84. Example - All Night
129. James Morrison - My Love Goes On (feat. Joss Stone)

Posted by: GTH 19th January 2019, 12:36 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 11:02 AM) *
You didn't think Ariana Grande was going to be one of the top 2 artist albums last year?

Ariana has never been a huge album seller in the U.K. None of her previous albums have got to platinum despite now being out for years, even when downloads and album sales were higher. Sweetener achieved more ‘sales’ in a year than any of her previous ones did, even with My everything having two number ones in it’s year of release.

Not everything Ariana release smashes, you only have to look at the light is coming. Came out after NTLTC with the video and a Nicki feature and still tanked. I am not keen on this one but there are clearly people who like it. Still far too soon to label it a big hit though.

Posted by: Hadji 19th January 2019, 12:43 PM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Jan 19 2019, 11:54 AM) *
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She’s also at #43 on spotify which means she could debut inside the top 40

Posted by: 777666jason 19th January 2019, 01:03 PM

QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jan 19 2019, 10:29 AM) *
How was Sweetener a relative underperformance?


It didn’t sell a million copies in its first week in they.k. laugh.gif

Tbh has anyone not underperformed in albums sales this year, George Ezra aside no artists has exactly sold loads (mostly due to the albums market being redundant these days)

Posted by: dj_tim_e 19th January 2019, 01:26 PM

QUOTE(GTH @ Jan 19 2019, 12:36 PM) *
Ariana has never been a huge album seller in the U.K. None of her previous albums have got to platinum despite now being out for years, even when downloads and album sales were higher. Sweetener achieved more ‘sales’ in a year than any of her previous ones did, even with My everything having two number ones in it’s year of release.

Not everything Ariana release smashes, you only have to look at the light is coming. Came out after NTLTC with the video and a Nicki feature and still tanked. I am not keen on this one but there are clearly people who like it. Still far too soon to label it a big hit though.


I'm surprised at the performance of the the Sweetener stuff as well... I thought she'd at least get the sympathy vote to be honest. NTLTC couldn't even hit the top!

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 19th January 2019, 01:42 PM

QUOTE(dj_tim_e @ Jan 19 2019, 01:26 PM) *
I'm surprised at the performance of the the Sweetener stuff as well... I thought she'd at least get the sympathy vote to be honest. NTLTC couldn't even hit the top!


NTLTC would have hit the top any other time of the year, it's been an absolutely humongous smash for her and was the perfect comeback.

Plus wasn't it like the 7th biggest hit of the year?

Posted by: Mark. 19th January 2019, 01:45 PM

246. Windsor Davies & Don Estelle - Whispering Grass

Posted by: Mark. 19th January 2019, 02:18 PM

162. Windsor Davies & Don Estelle - Whispering Grass

Posted by: sammy01 19th January 2019, 02:26 PM

QUOTE(Eric_Blob @ Jan 19 2019, 11:36 AM) *
No. Who on earth would expect that lol? Even people like Rihanna have never accomplished that. Usually it's people like Ed Sheeran, Take That, Coldplay, Adele, etc. who you might expect to have one of the 2 best-selling albums of the year.


But 3 of those 4 artists didn't release an album and Take That are not what they were.

I think Sweetner did pretty badly. She had the whole countries attention, even people who didn't know her before Manchester were behind her. She released a great 1st single it's just the album was pretty rubbish the follow up singles didn't do great and she abandoned the album when it wasnt the super smash hit album her and the record label were expecting.


Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 19th January 2019, 02:38 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 02:26 PM) *
But 3 of those 4 artists didn't release an album and Take That are not what they were.

I think Sweetner did pretty badly. She had the whole countries attention, even people who didn't know her before Manchester were behind her. She released a great 1st single it's just the album was pretty rubbish the follow up singles didn't do great and she abandoned the album when it wasnt the super smash hit album her and the record label were expecting.


I think she kind of wanted to detach herself from the album and move on as she wrote a lot of stuff about the Manchester incident and it was painful to her, and she had other stuff in her life she needed to write about (such as the break-up with her long-term boyfriend and his subsequent death).

Either way, I really don't believe they moved on from the album because it was 'underperforming' (which I really disagree with anyway). Although I do agree the album is seriously dire and I can't really see what else they could have went with for singles.

Posted by: Envoirment 19th January 2019, 02:59 PM

Really liking Mabel's "Don't Call Me Up". The video gives me "New Rules" vibes. I hope it can be a decent sized hit in the long run and debut top 40 this week.

Posted by: Jordan Lee 19th January 2019, 03:25 PM

Mabel’s track is fantastic also. I agree on the New Rules vibes to it I think it’s the phone connection too the songs are kinda similar as well as the video. I think this will be her biggest hit as a lead artist to date can easily see it going top ten and should hopefully debut top 40 too it started well on Spotify.

Posted by: 777666jason 19th January 2019, 04:18 PM

QUOTE(dj_tim_e @ Jan 19 2019, 01:26 PM) *
I'm surprised at the performance of the the Sweetener stuff as well... I thought she'd at least get the sympathy vote to be honest. NTLTC couldn't even hit the top!


NTLTC was just unfortunate to be released at peak one kiss time it debuted with over 73k which any other time would have been number 1 it has become a "millionaire" for her so not too shabby

TUN coincidently debut at number 1 with 73k too just shows NTLTC was unlucky

Posted by: Mark. 19th January 2019, 04:30 PM

116. Windsor Davies & Don Estelle - Whispering Grass

Posted by: Grandwicky 19th January 2019, 06:14 PM

arrow up.gif 13 Mabel - Don't Call Me Up

I agree this an absolute banger! wub.gif Just bought it myself! Never thought I'd say either of those about her as everything she's done before has been really mediocre imo (One Shot was ok and I was surprised that one didn't nothing)

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 19th January 2019, 06:19 PM

Oh wow, just listened to the Mabel track and it really is easily the best thing she's done!

I quite liked 'Fine Line', but everything else is just no.

Posted by: M4NG0 19th January 2019, 06:33 PM

QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jan 19 2019, 06:19 PM) *
Oh wow, just listened to the Mabel track and it really is easily the best thing she's done!

I quite liked 'Fine Line', but everything else is just no.

Yeah, pretty much exactly this. It's great that the track is having such a promising start, I can see it lining up to be a future Top 10.

Posted by: Joe. 19th January 2019, 06:54 PM

Sweetener is still top 20 in the charts despite her having moved on from the era and has sold 220k it’ll easily go platinum by the end of the year, not even Dangerous Woman is platinum yet? Sammy is, always, reaching.

Posted by: Bré 19th January 2019, 07:07 PM

If you think 'Sweetener' was an underperformance then you must have had unrealistically high expectations? It, and its singles, did extremely well. Her next album will probably do even better because that era has made her a bigger name.

Posted by: Joe. 19th January 2019, 07:13 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jan 19 2019, 07:07 PM) *
If you think 'Sweetener' was an underperformance then you must have had unrealistically high expectations? It, and its singles, did extremely well. Her next album will probably do even better because that era has made her a bigger name.


This exactly. Sweetener literally cemented her as the biggest pop star in the world right now.

The idea that she’s under-performing in any way shape or form and the label are hopelessly scrambling around to find ‘something that works’ is quite frankly, laughable.

Posted by: Dannyboy 19th January 2019, 07:19 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jan 19 2019, 07:07 PM) *
If you think 'Sweetener' was an underperformance then you must have had unrealistically high expectations? It, and its singles, did extremely well. Her next album will probably do even better because that era has made her a bigger name.



The album did well but I woudn't go as far as saying "extremely" well

Posted by: sammy01 19th January 2019, 07:49 PM

How many acts drop promoting an album after a few months if its hugely successful? She and the label moved on as it was under performing. The way you guys are talking it is like she is doing George Ezra numbers, she didn't and if she was she wouldn't be moving on to the next album already.


Posted by: mdh 19th January 2019, 07:54 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 07:49 PM) *
How many acts drop promoting an album after a few months if its hugely successful?
Drake, Post Malone, Sam Smith, Paloma Faith, Travis Scott, Cardi B, Harry Styles... and that's just to name a few off the top of my head.

Posted by: Joe. 19th January 2019, 08:09 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 07:49 PM) *
How many acts drop promoting an album after a few months if its hugely successful? She and the label moved on as it was under performing. The way you guys are talking it is like she is doing George Ezra numbers, she didn't and if she was she wouldn't be moving on to the next album already.


She literally did not move on because it was underperforming, that is 100% made up by you. She was at a weird place where she wanted to promote two things at once. She said she was sick of sticking to the rules. Sweetener is still doing good numbers world wide. Breathin was still growing on all metrics when Thank U Next came out.

Posted by: Bré 19th January 2019, 08:11 PM

It's very unusual for mainstream artists to release 2 albums in as quick succession as this regardless of how successful they are. Can you name even one example of an 'underperforming' album that a label did something like this off the back of before?

Posted by: JosephAvery 19th January 2019, 08:11 PM

I mean Future literally dropped two albums a week apart in 2017, and the first one was the one that actually had the global hit (Mask Off) on it, so this is nothing in comparison. I find the suggestion that Sweetener has "underperformed" to be laughable really because it quite clearly hasn't. It's her biggest album to date, in an era where album sales are becoming weaker and weaker. Let's not belittle her achievements because we don't personally like the material because that's all I can see here.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 19th January 2019, 08:16 PM

Comparing the first 22 weeks of her album chart runs (because Sweetener is in its 22nd week in the chart):

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07-45-82-113-155-174-196-171-179-187-176-151-151-175-194-xx-175-198-xx-xx-xx-xx Yours Truly [Sep 2013] (sold approx 26,000 in its first 22 weeks / had sold 89,000 by August 2018 / Silver)

03-10-18-25-45-49-51-47-55-58-54-52-58-49-49-58-62-61-70-90-98-124... My Everything [Aug 2014] (sold approx 88,000 in its first 22 weeks / current total 355,000 / Platinum)

01-08-11-24-32-33-28-33-35-34-39-47-41-55-37-33-31-29-33-40-38-44... Dangerous Woman [May 2016] (sold approx 75,000 in its first 22 weeks / current total 272,000 / Gold)

01-03-04-05-05-09-09-10-11-15-15-10-16-25-29-36-36-31-21-16-17-17... Sweetener [August 2018] (current total 209,377 / Gold)


Not really sure how Sweetener could be described as having under-performed? It's by far her biggest album success to date! Nowadays selling 200k+ is great going, and it's inevitable that it'll go Platinum eventually.

It's also her best chart run, with 9 weeks Top 10 / 16 weeks Top 20. Her previous best was 2 weeks Top 10 & 5 weeks Top 20.

Sweetener represents a major improvement for her as an album seller (bear in mind that My Everything's total is the accumulation of four and a half years on sale, and Sweetener isn't even six months old yet).

Posted by: Joe. 19th January 2019, 08:20 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jan 19 2019, 08:11 PM) *
It's very unusual for mainstream artists to release 2 albums in as quick succession as this regardless of how successful they are. Can you name even one example of an 'underperforming' album that a label did something like this off the back of before?


I literally cannot think of one example of a big name underperforming album being followed by a new album months later...

The idea of Katy releasing a new album 6 months after Witness....it would have bombed.

Posted by: SKOB 19th January 2019, 08:28 PM

This is not one either as the album didn't underperform.

She released one album in 2018 and is going to release (probably) one in 2019. It's not that weird imo.

Posted by: sammy01 19th January 2019, 08:38 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Jan 19 2019, 08:16 PM) *
Comparing the first 22 weeks of her album chart runs (because Sweetener is in its 22nd week in the chart):
Not really sure how Sweetener could be described as having under-performed? It's by far her biggest album success to date! Nowadays selling 200k+ is great going, and it's inevitable that it'll go Platinum eventually.

It's also her best chart run, with 9 weeks Top 10 / 16 weeks Top 20. Her previous best was 2 weeks Top 10 & 5 weeks Top 20.

Sweetener represents a major improvement for her as an album seller (bear in mind that My Everything's total is the accumulation of four and a half years on sale, and Sweetener isn't even six months old yet).


I'm not saying it under performed compared to her previous albums that is a silly comparison, it under performed relative to who and where she is as an artist. She is one of the biggest names in music and that chart run and sales dont match that.

Anyone who thinks her or the record label were satisfied with 220k and what it sold WW after all the hype and good will are fooling themselves.

Sweetner was meant to be huge, this was going to be her Good girl gone bad but it just didn't happen mainly because after No tears the rest of the album was rubbish and they moved on quickly realising that.

Posted by: JosephAvery 19th January 2019, 08:50 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 08:38 PM) *
I'm not saying it under performed compared to her previous albums that is a silly comparison, it under performed relative to who and where she is as an artist. She is one of the biggest names in music and that chart run and sales dont match that.

Anyone who thinks her or the record label were satisfied with 220k and what it sold WW after all the hype and good will are fooling themselves.

Sweetner was meant to be huge, this was going to be her Good girl gone bad but it just didn't happen mainly because after No tears the rest of the album was rubbish and they moved on quickly realising that.

It was the 16th biggest album of the year here, released in Q3 which is typically the weakest time of the year for album sales. It was massive and will continue to sell exceptionally well - more so than Rod Stewart, Andrea Bocelli and Michael Bublé who all finished ahead for sure. You're projecting your own disappointment of the album (and don't get me wrong, the quality didn't reach my expectations either and I prefer her previous two albums) onto the sales, which is unfair. It's done very well and I think anyone expecting any more than 210k is hoping for some sort of miracle.

Posted by: Joe. 19th January 2019, 08:59 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 08:38 PM) *
Anyone who thinks her or the record label were satisfied with 220k and what it sold WW after all the hype and good will are fooling themselves.


It sold 3.5 million worldwide in like 5 months...the record company would be very happy with that. Again, you’re cluticng straws here and your argument has become a bit embarrassing.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 19th January 2019, 09:01 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 08:38 PM) *
I'm not saying it under performed compared to her previous albums that is a silly comparison, it under performed relative to who and where she is as an artist. She is one of the biggest names in music and that chart run and sales dont match that.

Anyone who thinks her or the record label were satisfied with 220k and what it sold WW after all the hype and good will are fooling themselves.

Sweetner was meant to be huge, this was going to be her Good girl gone bad but it just didn't happen mainly because after No tears the rest of the album was rubbish and they moved on quickly realising that.

I didn't suggest you were saying it under-performed compared to her previous albums, you've misunderstood the point of my post. I was highlighting that in comparison to her previous albums, Sweetener clearly shows she's become significantly more successful in that market.

"Who and where she is as an artist" is reflected by how well Sweetener has performed compared to her old work. You have to appreciate that the album market has changed, 210k in 5 months is very good going in the here and now. Previous eras saw her selling considerably less in the same time-frame when album sales were stronger. I think your expectations are too high for the type of artist she is - she's not George Ezra.

If you don't count Lady Gaga's A Star Is Born (what with it being a soundtrack and a collaboration with Bradley Cooper), then Sweetener was 2018's highest selling studio album by an international female artist. That to me is in accordance with her being one of the biggest names in music. The chart run and sales do match that!

Posted by: sammy01 19th January 2019, 09:15 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Jan 19 2019, 09:01 PM) *
I didn't suggest you were saying it under-performed compared to her previous albums, you've misunderstood the point of my post. I was highlighting that in comparison to her previous albums, Sweetener clearly shows she's become significantly more successful in that market.

"Who and where she is as an artist" is reflected by how well Sweetener has performed compared to her old work. You have to appreciate that the album market has changed, 220k in 5 months is very good going in the here and now. Previous eras saw her selling considerably less in the same time-frame when album sales were stronger. I think your expectations are too high for the type of artist she is - she's not George Ezra.

If you don't count Lady Gaga's A Star Is Born (what with it being a soundtrack and a collaboration with Bradley Cooper), then Sweetener was 2018's highest selling studio album by an international female artist. That to me is in accordance with her being one of the biggest names in music. The chart run and sales do match that!


When was the last time the biggest selling international female album was only the 16th best selling album of the year?

She had a wide open market to go at in that regard, who was her competition Kylie Minogue.

Posted by: T Boy 19th January 2019, 09:30 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 09:15 PM) *
When was the last time the biggest selling international female album was only the 16th best selling album of the year?

She had a wide open market to go at in that regard, who was her competition Kylie Minogue.


In 2013 Pink had the biggest international female album and that only finished 20th

Posted by: sammy01 19th January 2019, 09:41 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Jan 19 2019, 09:30 PM) *
In 2013 Pink had the biggest international female album and that only finished 20th


So it was the weakest position on the year end chart for the best selling female international album in 5 years.


Posted by: Joe. 19th January 2019, 09:43 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Jan 19 2019, 09:30 PM) *
In 2013 Pink had the biggest international female album and that only finished 20th


But if you give Sammy a logical response to an odd argument instead of eating humble pie and accepting his opinion might be a bit misplaced / expectations a bit confused he just comes back with another illogical argument.

Edit: he beat me to it laugh.gif

Posted by: zenon 19th January 2019, 09:50 PM

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Posted by: Jay ☆ 19th January 2019, 09:52 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 09:15 PM) *
When was the last time the biggest selling international female album was only the 16th best selling album of the year?

She had a wide open market to go at in that regard, who was her competition Kylie Minogue.

"Only the 16th" is a bit glass half empty! Being one of the Top 20 albums of the year is great?

There were only two international females in the Top 20 of 2017, P!nk (5th) and Taylor Swift (15th), both of which were released in Q4 i.e. when sales are at their strongest. It's worth pointing out that Sweetener was released in Q3.

Posted by: sammy01 19th January 2019, 10:00 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Jan 19 2019, 09:52 PM) *
"Only the 16th" is a bit glass half empty! Being one of the Top 20 albums of the year is great?

There were only two international females in the Top 20 of 2017, P!nk (5th) and Taylor Swift (15th), both of which were released in Q4 i.e. when sales are at their strongest. It's worth pointing out that Sweetener was released in Q3.


I'm sorry but does being released in Q3 mean it is taken off sale in Q4? Did George Ezra's album released early in the year not sell great in Q4 too?

Wasnt the 2018 Xmas number 1 album released in 2017?

Posted by: JosephAvery 19th January 2019, 10:02 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 10:00 PM) *
I'm sorry but does being released in Q3 mean it is taken off sale in Q4? Did George Ezra's album released early in the year not sell great in Q4 too?

Wasnt the 2018 Xmas number 1 album released in 2017?

Q3 is the most dead period of the year for album sales. Q4 on the other hand is by *far* the strongest.

George Ezra benefited from a huge amount of promo over the festive period, plus the fact he's more of an album seller overall. I really don't think Ari and George is a particularly fair comparison as they appeal to different demographics? And The Greatest Showman isn't remotely comparable, it's outdone just about EVERYONE'S expectations. Let's not start bringing that up in a discussion about Ariana.

Posted by: Joe. 19th January 2019, 10:07 PM

Sweetener did very well on all metrics around the world and the label were very happy and it’s the only reason Ariana was able to take the risk of releasing new material, because it put her in such a good position. Let’s not continue to make up that it under-performed. End of.

Posted by: sammy01 19th January 2019, 10:10 PM

QUOTE(JosephAvery @ Jan 19 2019, 10:02 PM) *
Q3 is the most dead period of the year for album sales. Q4 on the other hand is by *far* the strongest.

George Ezra benefited from a huge amount of promo over the festive period, plus the fact he's more of an album seller overall. I really don't think Ari and George is a particularly fair comparison as they appeal to different demographics? And The Greatest Showman isn't remotely comparable, it's outdone just about EVERYONE'S expectations. Let's not start bringing that up in a discussion about Ariana.


Why because it makes her look bad comparing it to genuinely massive albums? Not clapping meaningless accolades for her like best selling international female album when barely any big name American artists released albums.

Of course if you compare Ariana to low barometers like the first 22 weeks of her older albums (when she wasnt so famous and before Manchester) and against other international female albums there has been a dirth of this year then she looks great.

Comparing her to heck even Jess Glynne she was outsold this year and Jess is in that really dangerous sophomore album period shows Sweetener really wasnt a big success.

Posted by: lewistgreen 19th January 2019, 10:11 PM

QUOTE(zenon @ Jan 19 2019, 09:50 PM) *
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Yas at this *.*

Posted by: danuary 19th January 2019, 10:13 PM

Let's not pretend Jess Glynne's album underperformed too drama.gif Jess' album outsold Ariana's as she had a big Q4 push anyhow (and she's more of a natural album seller in the UK market).

Posted by: JosephAvery 19th January 2019, 10:15 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 19 2019, 10:10 PM) *
Why because it makes her look bad comparing it to genuinely massive albums? Not clapping meaningless accolades for her like best selling international female album when barely any big name American artists released albums.

Of course if you compare Ariana to low barometers like the first 22 weeks of her older albums (when she wasnt so famous and before Manchester) and against other international female albums there has been a dirth of this year then she looks great.

Comparing her to heck even Jess Glynne she was outsold this year and Jess is in that really dangerous sophomore album period shows Sweetener really wasnt a big success.


You can't put every artist on the same level when it comes to album sales though. It's important to compare like-for-like. Comparing to Ari's previous albums, released in higher sales periods yet they still sold less in the same timeframe, is relevant. Comparing to mum-favourite George Ezra is NOT relevant. Ariana appeals more to the younger generation, who are less likely to pick CDs up casually in Tesco than George's typical demographic.

Jess Glynne is ever so slightly more relevant but I'm sure you can agree that something like Thursday or All I Am is far more MOR, far more safe and radio friendly, and again more likely to appeal to the older CD buying generation than songs like God is a woman or breathin? Dare I say Ari's more comparable to someone like Post Malone really. Her music has definite tinges of urban and they appeal to a similar age-group, who are more likely to stream than actually buy albums.

I think you're being very unfair on Ariana because Sweetener is obviously a big success. 200k is a surefire success and it'll make its way to platinum too!

Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 19th January 2019, 10:30 PM

I don't understand where this argument is going in all honesty. He's just gonna keep doing the same thing over and over and over again. It's so tiring and exhausting to read.

He's being proven wrong time and time again on this, with plausible facts and evidence but he's just as stubborn as always to accept the fact that 'Sweetener' was a huge success, all because he doesn't like it/her.

The fact that TUN was such a massive hit should show just how big Sweetener is. Sweetener literally set her up for a massive hit. If it wasn't that big of an album, would people really have been willing to give her new songs the time of day? I highly doubt it.

Posted by: 777666jason 19th January 2019, 10:38 PM

QUOTE(danuary @ Jan 19 2019, 10:13 PM) *
Let's not pretend Jess Glynne's album underperformed too drama.gif Jess' album outsold Ariana's as she had a big Q4 push anyhow (and she's more of a natural album seller in the UK market).


Jess released in Q3 and didnt really push in Q4 teresa.gif

Posted by: danuary 19th January 2019, 10:39 PM

QUOTE(777666jason @ Jan 19 2019, 10:38 PM) *
Jess released in Q3 and didnt really push in Q4 teresa.gif

QUOTE(Wikipedia)
Always In Between is the second studio album by English singer and songwriter Jess Glynne, released on 12 October 2018 by Atlantic Records. It debuted at number one on the UK Albums Chart.


October is Q4 tongue.gif

Posted by: 777666jason 19th January 2019, 10:45 PM

QUOTE(danuary @ Jan 19 2019, 10:39 PM) *
October is Q4 tongue.gif


I dunno why i thought it was last week in september so my bad laugh.gif thinks it because it only sold 30k to get number 1, she didnt really push it though, but i dont think it underperformef either.

Posted by: Mart!n 19th January 2019, 10:49 PM

QUOTE(777666jason @ Jan 19 2019, 10:38 PM) *
Jess released in Q3 and didnt really push in Q4 teresa.gif


Whoopsie tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Envoirment 19th January 2019, 10:53 PM

Not denying the success of Sweetener, but I don't think it played a big of a role in the success of "Thank You, Next". I think that was more due to the media storm around Ariana due to the death of Mac shortly followed by her split from Pete. She released the song only a couple weeks after the split iirc.

Posted by: 777666jason 19th January 2019, 11:23 PM

QUOTE(Envoirment @ Jan 19 2019, 10:53 PM) *
Not denying the success of Sweetener, but I don't think it played a big of a role in the success of "Thank You, Next". I think that was more due to the media storm around Ariana due to the death of Mac shortly followed by her split from Pete. She released the song only a couple weeks after the split iirc.



Both NTLTC and TUN opened with 73k in their respective opening weeks, so she was just as big when she realeased both really, sweetener didnt help but didnt hinder her, it didnt underperform either

Posted by: gavindeejay 19th January 2019, 11:31 PM

QUOTE(zenon @ Jan 19 2019, 09:50 PM) *
arrow up.gif 20. CamelPhat and Christoph feat Jem Cooke - Breathe


That move up to B List on Radio 1 working already I see! Hopefully will pave the way for more dance music in the chart again!

Posted by: Bré 19th January 2019, 11:39 PM

'thank u, next' was released midweek wasn't it? Its first 7 days total would have been a fair bit higher than that of 'no tears left to cry'.

Posted by: 777666jason 19th January 2019, 11:52 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jan 19 2019, 11:39 PM) *
'thank u, next' was released midweek wasn't it? Its first 7 days total would have been a fair bit higher than that of 'no tears left to cry'.


Technically she released it on Saturday

Posted by: GTH 20th January 2019, 08:42 AM

QUOTE(777666jason @ Jan 19 2019, 10:45 PM) *
I dunno why i thought it was last week in september so my bad laugh.gif thinks it because it only sold 30k to get number 1, she didnt really push it though, but i dont think it underperformef either.

I think what is meant when people mention push is that Jess had a single from the album she was promoting around the time.

Ariana basically gave up on promoting Sweetener/Breathin’ when Thank U, Next dropped. I am sure Sweetener did benefit from Ari having another hit, but not as much as it would had TUN been on Sweetener.

Posted by: Joe. 20th January 2019, 08:47 AM

She actually filmed the Breathin video while TUN was being released and then released the video after TUN was released, as the song was doing well everywhere - so the idea she moved on in some massive panic because the era was flopping is silly. I can actually see Sweetener being one of the biggest sellers for an album that only lasted a few months.

Posted by: Queen Rosemary 20th January 2019, 10:03 AM

QUOTE(Joe. @ Jan 19 2019, 08:09 PM) *
She literally did not move on because it was underperforming, that is 100% made up by you. She was at a weird place where she wanted to promote two things at once. She said she was sick of sticking to the rules. Sweetener is still doing good numbers world wide. Breathin was still growing on all metrics when Thank U Next came out.

You could even argue that it was called "Sweetener” because it was always going to be seen as a precursor to something bigger. Like here’s a taste, more to come shortly.

Posted by: blacksquare 20th January 2019, 10:28 AM

Labels do not rush out other projects, within weeks, by one artist if they're disappointed with their sales. That is just not how it works. She proved her viability with Sweetener and was able to take a risk.

I agree with the majority in this thread who are talking sense.

Posted by: 777666jason 20th January 2019, 10:41 AM

QUOTE(blacksquare @ Jan 20 2019, 10:28 AM) *
Labels do not rush out other projects, within weeks, by one artist if they're disappointed with their sales. That is just not how it works. She proved her viability with Sweetener and was able to take a risk.

I agree with the majority in this thread who are talking sense.


Well she was supposed to release the TUN album last year originally, which is the opposite of your argument since its been "delayed" but i agree with your point otherwise

Posted by: TheGrinch 20th January 2019, 11:12 AM

You know you’ve made it when you generate 8 pages of discussion on TUN and her album in the iTunes thread.

Posted by: coi 20th January 2019, 11:48 AM

arrow up.gif 27. Sub Focus & Dimension - Desire
arrow up.gif 64. Kygo - Happy Now (feat. Sandro Cavazza)
cheer.gif

Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 20th January 2019, 12:14 PM

QUOTE(777666jason @ Jan 20 2019, 10:41 AM) *
Well she was supposed to release the TUN album last year originally, which is the opposite of your argument since its been "delayed" but i agree with your point otherwise
Nope. It was rumoured. Nothing was officially stated except for Ariana saying "hopefully before the end of the year", I believe.

Posted by: Dmdr 20th January 2019, 12:39 PM

QUOTE(Joe. @ Jan 20 2019, 08:47 AM) *
She actually filmed the Breathin video while TUN was being released and then released the video after TUN was released, as the song was doing well everywhere - so the idea she moved on in some massive panic because the era was flopping is silly. I can actually see Sweetener being one of the biggest sellers for an album that only lasted a few months.


I think people are forgetting about something big, the death of her ex and then the split of her fiance. The album was heavily influenced by Manchester, moving on from Mac and finding love again with Pete. She stopped all promo for it to deal with her personal life. She said she started recording the new material as therapy and to have some fun with friends, if I remember right she also alluded to no longer wanting to sing about what was on Sweetener.

Breathin was doing well and growing at the time she stopped promo and started recording new material. In fact part of the reason her label haven't allowed her to put out the new album yet is because Sweetener is still selling well, last week it was #13 in the US and now #18. They still want to milk some more sales out of that before allowing her to move on.

Posted by: lewistgreen 20th January 2019, 01:32 PM

43. Sigma - Find Me (feat. Birdy)

I’m assuming this was used/performed on TV last night somewhere. But anyway YES *.*

Lizzo currently at 41 too and Calum Scott at 49!

Posted by: sammy01 20th January 2019, 03:00 PM

QUOTE(blacksquare @ Jan 20 2019, 10:28 AM) *
Labels do not rush out other projects, within weeks, by one artist if they're disappointed with their sales. That is just not how it works. She proved her viability with Sweetener and was able to take a risk.

I agree with the majority in this thread who are talking sense.


Yes they do look at Rihanna's Music of the sun started off well but the 2nd single underperformed and it was a bad album with no more hit potential. They rushed out a 2nd album with more pop/dance leaning songs and A girl like me was released less than 8 months after Music of the sun. It essentially saved her career.

Whilst I dont think Ariana's career needs saving moving on from Sweetener was defo a wise move given its quality and sales.

Posted by: 777666jason 20th January 2019, 05:11 PM

QUOTE(SweetButJonjo👻 @ Jan 20 2019, 12:14 PM) *
Nope. It was rumoured. Nothing was officially stated except for Ariana saying "hopefully before the end of the year", I believe.


Ariana saying that isnt that practically confirmation laugh.gif tbh it does sound like its ready to be released they just holding back for some reason

Posted by: Dircadirca 20th January 2019, 05:45 PM

QUOTE(777666jason @ Jan 21 2019, 01:11 AM) *
Ariana saying that isnt that practically confirmation laugh.gif

practically speaking it didn't come out so clearly it isn't tongue.gif

Posted by: 777666jason 20th January 2019, 07:57 PM

QUOTE(Dircadirca @ Jan 20 2019, 05:45 PM) *
practically speaking it didn't come out so clearly it isn't tongue.gif


You missed the point its a joke about it being postponed tongue.gif

Posted by: zenon 20th January 2019, 09:20 PM

arrow up.gif 1034. Saara Aalto - Let It Go

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 21st January 2019, 01:31 AM

60. Molly Lane - Do They Dance in Heaven (For Grief Encounter)

Posted by: ElectroBoy 21st January 2019, 09:52 AM

10. Mabel - Don't Call Me Up
19. CamelPhat & Cristoph - Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)

Posted by: Mart!n 21st January 2019, 10:56 AM

QUOTE(ElectroBoy @ Jan 21 2019, 09:52 AM) *
10. Mabel - Don't Call Me Up


Wow... never expected the track to do so well, its probably her best track to date, I really love it.

Posted by: Jαsє 21st January 2019, 11:05 AM

10. Mabel - Don't Call Me Up
18. Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved
20. CamelPhat & Cristoph - Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)
32. The 1975 - It's Not Living (If It's Not With You)
40. Molly Lane - Do They Dance in Heaven (For Grief Encounter)

Posted by: Cqmerqn 21st January 2019, 12:27 PM

arrow up.gif 09. Mabel - Don’t Call Me Up

Blimey!

Posted by: ElectroBoy 21st January 2019, 01:01 PM

Amazing for Mabel! especially after one shot

Posted by: Cqmerqn 21st January 2019, 04:20 PM

arrow up.gif 08. Mabel - Don’t Call Me Up

Posted by: RobBob 21st January 2019, 04:26 PM

I mean, this REALLY should be her New Rules if there’s justice. Absolutely ADORE it <3.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 21st January 2019, 04:33 PM

Mabel is #7 on Apple Music too! ohmy.gif

Posted by: jakewild 21st January 2019, 05:00 PM

this is the hit mabel deserves

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 21st January 2019, 07:39 PM

29. Molly Lane - Do They Dance in Heaven (For Grief Encounter)

167. Anton Powers & Redondo - Make Your Move

851. Bob Sinclar - Electrico Romantico (feat. Robbie Williams)

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 21st January 2019, 11:32 PM

7. Mabel - Don't Call Me Up
18. CamelPhat & Cristoph - Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)

209. Foals - Exits
1320. Foals - Exits (Edit)

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 21st January 2019, 11:44 PM

Keep going CamelPhat!

Posted by: Envoirment 22nd January 2019, 12:00 AM

Yes Mabel *_* The video almost has 1 million views in just a few days as well!

Posted by: Bré 22nd January 2019, 12:19 AM

Would love to see 'Breathe' giving CamelPhat a third top 40 hit, they've done very well to avoid being one hit wonders.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 22nd January 2019, 09:45 AM

84. Foals - Exits
1103. Foals - Exits (Edit)

Posted by: Nimbus 22nd January 2019, 09:52 AM

That Mabel song is a bop, rooting for her.

Also it seems like Giant will be serious #1 contender very soon (we'll see how long will 7 rings last), Calvin Harris has hit his stride yet again.

Posted by: iain 22nd January 2019, 01:31 PM

Who are Emily Crystal and Kimberly Jonath, and why do they have over 50 songs between iTunes 100 and 200?

Posted by: danuary 22nd January 2019, 01:34 PM

Mass buys from the label presumably. It happens quite often at lower positions and they're always people no-one has ever heard of.

Posted by: CardiiB 22nd January 2019, 03:54 PM

arrow up.gif 06. Mabel - Don’t Call Me Up

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 22nd January 2019, 04:08 PM

45. Foals - Exits

Posted by: SKOB 22nd January 2019, 05:36 PM

Shallow dark green again on Kworb. It's coming, for 13534th time.

Posted by: omrimayo 22nd January 2019, 07:24 PM

Love the new Bring Me The Horizon!

Posted by: omrimayo 22nd January 2019, 07:30 PM

Little Mix - Think about us Remix with Ty Dolla Sign is out this Friday... no one knows why anyway, and Dua Lipa single from Alita also.

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 22nd January 2019, 11:44 PM

2. Sam Smith & Normani - Dancing with a Stranger
6. Westlife - Hello My Love
18. Lee Sora - Song Request (feat. SUGA)
42. Foals - Exits
43. Bring Me the Horizon - mother tongue
68. Nouela - The Sound of Silence
73. Wiley, Stefflon Don & Sean Paul - Boasty (feat. Idris Elba)
135. Dido - Give You Up

Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 23rd January 2019, 12:57 AM

Oh thank GOD Sam and Normani are above Calvin and Raging Bin Man again! But in all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised at seeing a '7 Rings' - 'Don't Call Me Up' - Stormzy changeover at the top, with both Sam and Calvin's efforts peaking at #2, respectively.

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 23rd January 2019, 02:40 AM

38. Bring Me the Horizon - mother tongue
41. Foals - Exits
72. Wiley, Stefflon Don & Sean Paul - Boasty (feat. Idris Elba)
106. League of Legends, Valerie Broussard & Ray Chen - Awaken
113. Trevor Horn - Dancing in the Dark (feat. The Sarm Orchestra and Gabrielle Aplin)

Posted by: 777666jason 23rd January 2019, 01:48 PM

QUOTE(omrimayo @ Jan 22 2019, 07:30 PM) *
Little Mix - Think about us Remix with Ty Dolla Sign is out this Friday... no one knows why anyway, and Dua Lipa single from Alita also.


Its nice they finally deciding on a second track but they havent had a single without a feature since touch

Posted by: Queen Rosemary 23rd January 2019, 01:55 PM

QUOTE(777666jason @ Jan 23 2019, 01:48 PM) *
Its nice they finally deciding on a second track but they havent had a single without a feature since touch

Didn’t that get a remix featuring Kid Ink?

Posted by: danuary 23rd January 2019, 01:56 PM

QUOTE(Queen Rosemary @ Jan 23 2019, 01:55 PM) *
Didn’t that get a remix featuring Kid Ink?
It did but the solo version was the hit here (and in Australia). The Kid Ink remix was only aimed for America (and it flopped there anyway).

Posted by: Joe. 23rd January 2019, 01:57 PM

The kid ink version wasn’t a single, it came out after No More Sad Songs was already being pushed here.

Posted by: Joe. 23rd January 2019, 01:59 PM

1. Sam Smith & Normani - Dancing with a Stranger arrow up.gif

Posted by: SKOB 23rd January 2019, 02:55 PM

YASS DWAS!

Posted by: Nick Jonas 24th January 2019, 07:13 AM

‘I’ll Never Love Again’ #56 has finally overtaken ‘Always Remember Us This Way’ #57 - next single perhaps?

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 24th January 2019, 09:28 AM

QUOTE(Nick Jonas @ Jan 24 2019, 07:13 AM) *
‘I’ll Never Love Again’ #56 has finally overtaken ‘Always Remember Us This Way’ #57 - next single perhaps?


It really feels like they dropped the ball and wasted the potential 'Always Remember Us This Way' had by not pushing it harder. So frustrating. sad.gif

One big performance could have given that its 'Someone Like You' moment!

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 24th January 2019, 01:17 PM

18. J. Cole - MIDDLE CHILD
37. Wiley, Stefflon Don & Sean Paul - Boasty (feat. Idris Elba)

Posted by: omrimayo 24th January 2019, 01:48 PM

New Vampire Weekend is out also! Dua in an hour and Florence in 3 hours!

Posted by: ElectroBoy 24th January 2019, 02:09 PM

Lauv x Troye Sivan - I'm so Tired...

Is also out (well its on Spotify)

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 24th January 2019, 04:02 PM

99. Bring Me the Horizon - nihilist blues (feat. Grimes)

125. Vampire Weekend - Harmony Hall

Posted by: ElectroBoy 24th January 2019, 04:10 PM

12. Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved
16. J Cole - MIDDLE CHILD
17. CamelPhat & Cristoph - Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)
98. Lauv & Troye Sivan - i'm so tired...

Posted by: ElectroBoy 24th January 2019, 04:37 PM

arrow up.gif 69. Lauv x Troye - I’m so tired...

Posted by: omrimayo 24th January 2019, 05:23 PM

New Dua And Florence is out also, both amazing.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 24th January 2019, 06:10 PM

ne.gif 46. Dua Lipa - Swan Song

Posted by: ElectroBoy 24th January 2019, 06:28 PM

16. CamelPhat & Cristoph - Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)
43. Dua Lipa - Swan Song
46. Bring Me the Horizon - nihilist blues (feat. Grimes)
53. Lauv x Troye - I’m so tired...
110. Vampire Weekend - Harmony Hall

Posted by: 777666jason 24th January 2019, 06:43 PM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Jan 24 2019, 06:10 PM) *
ne.gif 46. Dua Lipa - Swan Song


Dua retiring cheer.gif cheer.gif

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 24th January 2019, 07:04 PM

41. Dua Lipa - Swan Song (From the Motion Picture "Alita: Battle Angel")
51. Lauv x Troye - I’m so tired..
69. Florence + The Machine - Moderation
70. Bring Me the Horizon - nihilist blues (feat. Grimes)
103. Vampire Weekend - Harmony Hall 

1399. Vampire Weekend - 2021


Posted by: ElectroBoy 24th January 2019, 07:48 PM

37. Dua Lipa - Swan Song (From the Motion Picture "Alita: Battle Angel")
46. Lauv x Troye - I’m so tired..
52. Florence + The Machine - Moderation
69. Bring Me the Horizon - nihilist blues (feat. Grimes)
90. Vampire Weekend - Harmony Hall

Posted by: ManicKangaroo 24th January 2019, 09:02 PM

33. Florence + The Machine - Moderation
35. Dua Lipa - Swan Song (From the Motion Picture "Alita: Battle Angel")
44. Lauv x Troye - I’m so tired..
65. Bring Me the Horizon - nihilist blues (feat. Grimes)
91. Vampire Weekend - Harmony Hall 
128. Ryan Adams - F**k the Rain
138. Julia Michaels - What a Time (feat. Niall Horan)

1369. Vampire Weekend - 2021

Posted by: SKOB 24th January 2019, 09:11 PM

I thought Julia Michaels released a single with Selena Gomez?

Posted by: Cqmerqn 24th January 2019, 09:26 PM

ne.gif 175. Julia Michaels - Anxiety (ft. Selena Gomez)

Posted by: M4NG0 24th January 2019, 10:15 PM

Dua's song is good but it builds up to this epic chorus which turns out to be... well, not that epic. Loving the new Vampire Weekend straightaway though!

QUOTE(SKOB @ Jan 24 2019, 09:11 PM) *
I thought Julia Michaels released a single with Selena Gomez?

It seems to be a mini album of 6 songs, one featuring Selena and one featuring Niall

Posted by: Hadji 24th January 2019, 10:43 PM

Florence ahead of Dua? Dua will more likely be ahead officially though

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