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BuzzJack Music Forum _ Eurovision Song Contest _ GFSC I // NOMINATIONS
Posted by: Ryan. Oct 30 2016, 11:39 PM
Okay so we all now that Eurovision songs are THE BEST songs, but now we have to prove it. We are going up against the four genre forums as a bit of a wildcard, so we are now getting our chance to be Australia. But we need to go one better than Australia did this year and actually WIN!
As explained in http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=195056, the theme is 'Signature Sounds' so we need to think about nominating songs that truly represent either a Eurovision-related artist or Eurovision in general. The only rules applicable to us is that we cannot nominate songs that finished top ten in a Eurovision final or a song that charted in the UK top 40. Something that bypasses those rules but is still too "cheap" may still be vetoed however.
We have SUCH a wide range of songs that I'm not sure how we go about this, but we are allowed to nominate up to five songs each. By the end of the selection process, we will choose four songs collectively to represent Eurovision in this contest. I'm not going to put down any guidelines for now, let's see what people come up with. Ideally I'd like us to submit a couple of songs that were in Eurovision, but failed to make the top 10 and a couple of songs by Eurovision artists that are from their wider discographies but let's see what happens.
Go go go!
NOMINATIONS SO FAR
Previous Eurovision Entries
Cascada - Glorious (x2)
Feminnem - Lako je sve
Freddie - Pioneer
Greta Salóme - Hear Them Calling (x2)
Ivi Adamou - La La Love
İzel Çeliköz, Reyhan Karaca & Can Uğurluer - Íki Dakika (x4)
Kate Ryan - Je t'adore
Krista Siegfrids - Marry Me (x2)
Nina Sublatti - Warrior
NOX - Forogj, világ!
Svetlana Loboda - Be My Valentine! (Anti-Crisis Girl)
National Selection Rejects
Ace Wilder - Don't Worry
Barbe-Q-Barbies - Let Me Out
Helena Paparizou - Survivor
Isa - Don't Stop (x2)
Margaret - Cool Me Down (x2)
Nightwish - Sleepwalker
Robin Bengtsson - Constellation Prize
Samir & Viktor - Bada Nakna
Saša Landero - Mandoline (x2)
Sibel - That Is Where I'll Go
Timoteij - Kom (x2)
Eurovision Artist Discographies
Dami Im - Superlove
Elina Born - Kilimanjaro
Eric Saade - Forgive Me
Jon Henrik Fjällgren - vi är starka
Krista Siegfrids - Better On My Own
Loreen - Everytime
Loreen - My Heart Is Refusing Me (x3)
Loreen - Paper Light (Higher)
Tone Damli feat. Eric Saade - Imagine (x2)
Total Touch - Somebody Else's Lover
Yohanna - I Miss You
Wildcards
Mĺns Zelmerlöw & Petra Mede - Love Love Peace Peace (x2)
Posted by: Ryan. Oct 30 2016, 11:41 PM
I'm going to throw this out there as a potential nomination that I think we could all get behind to get us started:
Posted by: Ryan. Oct 30 2016, 11:49 PM
Other categories we could fill our four song quota with could be a "classic" track, we definitely need some "ethnopop" and something "alternative" to show Eurovision's progression!
Posted by: UltraBasicWitch Oct 30 2016, 11:56 PM
Nominations (of the top of my head!):
Margaret- Cool Me Down (my main choice!)
Ace Wilder- Don't Worry
Greta Salome- Hear Them Calling
Krista Siegfields- Marry Me
Isa- Don't Stop
Posted by: Ryan. Oct 30 2016, 11:59 PM
Ooh yes I think I'll be joining you with Isa, and I'll perhaps throw Robin Bengtsson in there too. Great choices there, although Molly was UK top 40 so we won't be allowed her unfortunately - I imagine she's too well known anyway being a UK entry.
Thinking out loud for myself - I'll confirm proper nominations at a later date -, I think from recent years Great Salome's Hear Them Calling must be a good shout for a Eurovision song that didn't make the top 10 - widely agreed as the most undeserving DNQ in many years!
We could even give Saara Aalto another moment of fame!
Posted by: UltraBasicWitch Oct 31 2016, 12:01 AM
I forgot Molly went top 40! Will replace her with Greta who was my 6th choice!
Posted by: Ryan. Oct 31 2016, 12:01 AM
I had to check she did, it's rare to think a UK entry went top 40 - only her and Blue managed it this decade I believe! Great minds think alike with Greta 
Posted by: HΞDA FROM HΞLL Oct 31 2016, 12:04 AM
Nina Sublatti - Warrior (she finished 11th iirc?) 
I'll edit in some more as I think of them 
Thanks for participating Ryan, I look forward to seeing what you guys bring to this 
Posted by: Ryan. Oct 31 2016, 12:05 AM
11th yes!
No problem, great idea and thank you for inviting us!
Posted by: Ryan. Oct 31 2016, 12:09 AM
Thinking more classically, Marlain could have a chance to redeem herself after her 1999 disaster (Lex we need you to inform us on all things 90s!) or perhaps we could go controversial with Georgia's Stephane & 3G?
Posted by: Silas Oct 31 2016, 12:36 AM
What a fantastic super original idea guys!
I second the nomo for Love Love Peace Peace and then for my 4 i've gone for non-ESC songs by ESC artists to diversify the noms.
Yohanna - I Miss You (Iceland 2009, Is It True - 2nd)
Loreen - My Heart Is Refusing Me (Sweden 2012, Euphoria - 1st)
Krista Siegfields - Better On My Own (Finland 2013, Marry Me - 24th)
Queen Tone Damli Feat. Eric Saade - Imagine (TONE \ Norway 2009 Melodi Grand Prix, Butterflies - Runner Up; Sweden 2013 Melodifestivalen, Hello Goodbye (with Erik Segerstedt) - ROBBED. ERIC \ Sweden 2010 Melodifestivalen, Manboy - 3rd; Sweden 2011, Popular - 3rd & ROBBED BY THAT AZERBAIJANI SHITE)
Posted by: HexC Oct 31 2016, 12:45 AM
Oooh I will get brainstorming on ideas for this tomorrow!
Posted by: Ryan. Oct 31 2016, 12:47 AM
Imagine! *.*
Posted by: Izzy Dead People Oct 31 2016, 02:16 AM
I suppose I get no slots for some sort of glam camp rock thing then? We don't need to be entirely competing with the Pop Forum here (although, granted, we will mostly).
Love Love Peace Peace is excellent as a good choice to represent as a whole.
For the rest of my noms, how I'm going to interpret the theme here is something that fits a particular Eurovision country to a tee. Which means something Swede-written, something Finn-rocky, something ethnoshaker, and some soulless Russian ballad. I'm not sure on the EXACT songs to do this with yet though.
Posted by: Dannoween Oct 31 2016, 09:21 AM
I second:
Margaret - Cool You Down
Loreen - My Heart Is Refusing Me
Also:
Cascada - Glorious
Loreen - Paper Light (Higher)
Posted by: AdamAloud Oct 31 2016, 10:47 AM
I think at least one song from the 90s and one song in a foreign language is a MUST
Basically, 'İki Dakika'.
Posted by: Qassändra Oct 31 2016, 11:14 AM
I don't quite get the concept here? (this isn't me slamming down it happening, more not really understanding what the structure for this is, I may just be being very simple)
Posted by: Izzy Dead People Oct 31 2016, 12:14 PM
Eurovision picks, through democracy, dictatorship or however we like, 4 Eurovision-adjacent songs, representative of the artist's sound, that we then submit to fight for dominance against the Pop/Indie/RnB/Dance forums, who will be picking their own songs. End result is a twenty song final that should end up being a clash of genres and people listening to things they wouldn't normally, only this forum is a bit of a wildcard in that respect.
Which means it might be in our interests to pick some kooky gems that people might not be expecting. İki Dakika was springing to mind for me as well. 
Posted by: Cameron Oct 31 2016, 05:19 PM
Cascada - Glorious
Elina Born - Kilimanjaro
Dami Im - Superlove
Posted by: HexC Oct 31 2016, 07:16 PM
The way I'm approaching this is definitley "forgotten gems" that sound recognisably "Eurovisiony" but at the same time have wide appeal beyond that, which makes me think that the best approach would to have a "no use of the English language" rule. Also we'd want to hit a few different levels of contest-relativity so, say, one competing song that didn't make top 10, one NF reject, one follow up song from a ESC/NF artist of note and then one 'wildcard' so to speak (basically 'Love Love Peace Peace' fits in that category)
I think Iki Dakika is a great call in that respect (you can thank me later!) and might I suggest the following two as good additions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_JeI-kXiFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9VLFog6mbY
Posted by: Ryan. Oct 31 2016, 07:26 PM
I think that'll be a good way to breakdown the final voting round as Competing Song, NF Reject, Wider Discography Song, Wildcard (interval acts etc) will be the perfect way to select our four song quota! Will probably try and get down to 10 for each section, so you'll probably only need a couple of nominations to make it.
Reserving the right to change, my current 5 nominations are:
Love Love Peace Peace
Don't Stop
Constellation Prize
Hear Them Calling
Kilimanjaro
I will keep thinking as I want to diversify language and years if possible.
Posted by: Izzy Dead People Nov 1 2016, 01:42 PM
Gonna go for, officially, I'll leave Love Love Peace Peace as I think it's going to make it to our forum's final now (I think any with two nods should if I'm reading http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=195056# right):
İzel Çeliköz - İki Dakika (representative of Turkey/ethnic songs)
Nightwish - Sleepwalker (representative of Eurovision-esque rock, I can't resist putting this up for consideration, plus it could grab indie votes)
Timoteij - Kom (representative of Melodifestivalen epics/Swedish language, toss up between this and Genom Eld Och Vatten but I think this could get a lot more traction as glorious as Sarek is)
NOX - Forogj, vilag! (takes Eastern European language and Celtic-riverdance whirlwind sounds in one package, only just misses the cutoff point but it was 11 years ago)
Sibel - That Is Where I'll Go (I wanted a good ballad to finish off and this is the best (and also most stereotypically Eurovision, or I'd have gone for something like Cvet z Juga or La Voix, and I'm not sure operatic is exactly signature Eurovision) I can think of)
Posted by: Ryan. Nov 1 2016, 02:25 PM
I assumed by multiple that it meant that the final would be made up of songs with 2 or more nominations (as obviously including 1s would be unmanageable), but it'd depend on the volume of nominations as to what that multiple ends up being. If you could clarify Lindsey that'd be fab, although I wouldn't imagine we'd get many with 3 nominations or more to render doing 3 or more to the final as a possibility.
Going by nominations in other threads, I don't think we have to be as harsh cheap-wise as I thought we were going to be so I shall be nominating the ultimate (sort of) ethnopop song from south-eastern Europe and that is of course Ivi Adamou's La La Love instead of Kilimanjaro.
NOX is a good shout, very underrated!
Posted by: ʟɪɴᴅsᴇ Nov 1 2016, 02:32 PM
Yea I think it will be two or more as it's kinda evident already that there's going to be a shit load of single nominations so it's probably going to be rare that anything will get even three
Posted by: HexC Nov 1 2016, 02:53 PM
Okay so my actual 100% legit nominations at this point are
Sasa Landero - Mandoline (represents the ethno-pop sound very well and that's what people are expecting from us I think)
Total Touch - Somebody Else's Lover (Trijntje Oosterhuis's easier to pronounce girlband from the 90s and this is their biggest/best hit and it's fabulous, plus has tinges of RnB which'll net it some fans from that base)
Timoteij - Kom (with Iz here, and really we need some kind of Scandi/MF representation)
Barbe-Q-Barbies - Let Me Out (strategic outreach to the rock/poprock fans)
Plus one more I'm leaving myself time to edit in.
Posted by: Ryan. Nov 1 2016, 03:11 PM
I've put everything we have in the first post, I've gone for "Artist Wider Discography" for My Heart Is Refusing Me as while it was an NF reject it was revamped and made a post-Euphoria single of course (and it has less competition in the category I've put it in 
)
Posted by: Sonia Fowler Nov 1 2016, 09:33 PM
Samir and Viktor - Bada Nadka
Freddie - Poineer
Posted by: AdamAloud Nov 3 2016, 04:10 PM
İzel Çeliköz, Reyhan Karaca & Can Uğurluer - Íki Dakika
Kate Ryan - Je t'adore
Svetlana Loboda - Be My Valentine!
Feminnem - Lako je sve
Helena Paparizou - Survivor
'Íki Dakika' is a must for me, been stuck in my head ever since Lex posted it in his thread. 'Je t'adore' is classic europop, Svetlana because *.*, 'Lako je sve' to represent the fantastic genre of Balkan ballads. And then I could've gone forever choosing a Melfest reject, but I think Helena could appeal to a lot on here.
Posted by: Mack Nov 3 2016, 09:19 PM
Loreen- Everytime
Krista Siegfield- Marry Me
Eric Saade- Forgive Me
Loreen- My Heart Is Refusing Me
Tone Damli ft Eric Saade- Imagine
Posted by: Ryan. Nov 5 2016, 07:55 PM
One more day to nominate!
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