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Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 8th April 2017, 01:27 PM

Is it finally time for Ed Sheeran's #1 reign to end? Harry Styles is hoping to debut at #1 with his first single 'Sign of the Times', and there are other new releases from 'Passport Home' by JP Cooper and 'Die With You' by Beyoncé. Other new entries in the top 40 may come from 'On My Mind' by Disciples, and perhaps Martin Solveig will finally climb in? Songs by Little Mix, Julia Michaels, Jason Derulo and others should climb further too.

In the albums, it seems like Ed Sheeran's '÷' is on for yet another week at the top. Hoping for a high entry are The Chainsmokers with 'Memories... Do Not Open', as well as other new releases from Father John Misty, Caro Emerald and Michelle Branch among others. Expect Now 96 to debut at #1 in the compilations chart too.

Breakdown of the week
- Saturday and Sunday: Information on Twitter from MintRoyale only. Please do not make requests, we do not have any information other than what's posted.
- Monday: OCC Top 100 + Radio 1 Chart Update 5:30pm to 5:45pm.
- Tuesday: Top 40 update as and when we receive them with requests, this is NOT 100% guaranteed however. The OCC may publish sales flashes of their own accord but likewise, this is not guaranteed. Twitter and social media is your friend for today. Please post any information you find with a source. Do not nag for updates, we will post a top 40 update if we receive one.
- Wednesday: Top 40 update from Music Week from 5:45, and potential top 5 sales but this is not guaranteed.
- Thursday: See Tuesday.

Other notes (please read)
- You may make requests Tuesday to Thursday but outside the top 40, specific positions will not be revealed (unless deemed necessary by a mod).
- Please do not demand a midweek update, one will be posted as and when we receive the information. Patience is a virtue.
- Sales information will be given out as deemed necessary by a moderator, please bear this in mind when making requests. Most requests for sales will be ignored.
- To keep everyone in the loop of all chart action, please refer to the iTunes and Spotify threads.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 8th April 2017, 01:28 PM

Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data:

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/

1 Harry Styles - Sign of the Times (29,695) *
2 Ed Sheeran - Galway Girl (14,171)
3 Clean Bandit feat. Zara Larsson - Symphony (13,988)
4 Ed Sheeran - Shape of You (12,790)
5 The Chainsmokers & Coldplay - Something Just Like This (9,190)

6-10
7 Martin Jensen - Solo Dance
8 Julia Michaels - Issues

11-20
11 Little Mix feat. Machine Gun Kelly - No More Sad Songs
12 Anne-Marie - Ciao Adios
13 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human
15 Rag'n'Bone Man - Skin
18 Disciples - On My Mind *
20 Lorde - Green Light

21-30
22 Beyoncé - Die With You *
23 Calvin Harris feat. Young Thug, Pharrell Williams & Ariana Grande - Heatstroke
24 Martin Solveig feat. Ina Wroldsen - Places *
25 Little Mix - Touch
29 Cheat Codes feat. Demi Lovato - No Promises *
30 Starley - Call On Me

31-40
31 The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk - I Feel It Coming ^
37 Stargate feat. P!nk & Sia - Waterfall *
40 Louisa Johnson - Best Behaviour *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

1 Ed Sheeran - ÷ (30,111)
2 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human (11,383)
3 The Chainsmokers - Memories... Do Not Open (8,604) *
4 Deep Purple - Infinite (6,918) *
5 Take That - Wonderland (6,725)

6-10
6 Father John Misty - Pure Comedy *
7 Mike & The Mechanics - Let Me Fly *
9 Future Islands - The Far Field *

11-20
11 Motion Picture Soundtrack Album [Moana]
16 Rag’n’Bone Man - Wolves - EP *
17 Motion Picture Soundtrack Album [Trolls]
19 Brian May & Kerry Ellis - Golden Days *

21-30
23 Pentatonix - PTX – Vol. 4 *
26 Joey Badass - All-Amerikkkan Badass *

31-40
32 Big Moon - Love In The 4th Dimension *
34 Blaenavon - That’s Your Lot *
36 Bethel Music - Starlight – Live *
37 Depeche Mode - The Best of, Vol 1 ^

Click on the above relevant links.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 8th April 2017, 01:28 PM

Wednesday Top 40 Update
Source: Music Week
Missing Data:

Singles

1 Harry Styles - Sign of the Times (47.0k) *
2 Ed Sheeran - Shape of You (38.6k)
3 Ed Sheeran - Galway Girl (36.9k)
4 Clean Bandit feat. Zara Larsson - Symphony (35.0k)
5 Drake - Passionfruit (26.7k)

6-10
7 Martin Jensen - Solo Dance

11-20
12 Anne-Marie - Ciao Adios
13 Bruno Mars - That's What I Like
14 Jax Jones feat. RAYE - You Don't Know Me
16 Little Mix feat. Machine Gun Kelly - No More Sad Songs
18 Rag'n'Bone Man - Skin
19 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human
20 Lorde - Green Light

21-30
23 The Chainsmokers - Paris
24 Little Mix - Touch
25 Jason Derulo feat. Nicki Minaj & Ty Dolla $ign - Swalla
26 Martin Solveig feat. Ina Wroldsen - Places *
27 Future - Mask Off
29 Starley - Call On Me

31-40
32 Disciples - On My Mind *
34 Dua Lipa - Be the One

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 Ed Sheeran - ÷ (56.5k)
2 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human (18.2k)
3 The Chainsmokers - Memories... Do Not Open (14.1k) *
4 Drake - More Life (11.6k)
5 Take That - Wonderland (11.5k)

6-10
6 Deep Purple - Infinite *
7 Father John Misty - Pure Comedy *
8 Mike & The Mechanics - Let Me Fly *
9 Motion Picture Cast Recording - Moana (OST)

11-20
14 Little Mix - Glory Days
15 Future Islands - The Far Field *
18 Motion Picture Cast Recording - Trolls (OST)
20 Rag’n’Bone Man - Wolves - EP *

21-30
21 Joey Badass - All-Amerikkkan Badass *
25 Brian May & Kerry Ellis - Golden Days *

31-40
32 Pentatonix - PTX – Vol. 4 *
36 twenty one pilots - Blurryface
38 Blaenavon - That’s Your Lot *
40 Depeche Mode - The Best of, Vol 1 ^

Posted by: ___∆___ 8th April 2017, 02:14 PM

Just pleased at the prospect of having a non Ed #1

Posted by: Hadji 8th April 2017, 02:46 PM

It depends how much Harry has sold so far

Posted by: Dexton 8th April 2017, 03:26 PM

If not Harry at #1 then definitely Ed with Galway Girl, Sign of the Times probably at #2. Although it all depends on the streams these days..

Posted by: Rafael x 8th April 2017, 03:45 PM

King will have his #1 debut!!

Posted by: Mart!n 8th April 2017, 03:49 PM

If Harry does end up at #2, surely Clean Bandit will take the #1, Ed's sales have been decreasing.

Posted by: slowdown73 8th April 2017, 04:46 PM

I hope Clean Bandit can get to no1. Its the only decent song that deserves to take over. As for Harry Styles, how well he is doing on streaming? I know he is no1 on iTunes but that seems to count for little these days.

Posted by: Dobbo 8th April 2017, 04:50 PM

I'd be amazed if it wasn't Harry. I know iTunes chart means practically zilch these days but I'd expect it to rack up decent enough streams to back that up. Second week is where it gets interesting.

Posted by: Tinasha 8th April 2017, 05:00 PM

I wouldn't say iTunes chart means ziltch, it just means about 50% less than it used to. On opening weeks for big acts like this one, I'd say it meant a lot.

Posted by: dennispennis123 8th April 2017, 05:02 PM

Will all depend on the next couple of days, if Harry can maintain a healthy lead on iTunes and if streaming improves for him it will be #1.

If his streaming doesn't improve much on his first day total then he's in trouble.

Posted by: ankietarrr 8th April 2017, 09:39 PM

Forget that Harry will take number one

Wishful thinking.


The same people swore Coldplay/Chainsmokers or Galway Girl will be number one, Harry is one week wonder who can have a run like 2-11-19-28-64 etc

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 8th April 2017, 09:45 PM

We'll see who's right come Friday

Posted by: timjimlee 8th April 2017, 10:31 PM

Ed will clearly get a sixth week at the top in the Album chart but curious to see where The Chainsmokers debut, should be ok for a Top 5 debut?
Take That will get a boost from their various TV appearances but suspect gains will be minimal given the impact seen so far on iTunes & Amazon Best Sellers.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Rag 'N' Bone Man holding at 2.

Posted by: ankietarrr 9th April 2017, 05:14 AM

i Tounes is meaningless because they are expensive as hell. Who pays 1 pound for a song now? Or 7.99 or something for non physical music? Which is just a copy/paste product?
You must be really Apple lemming to buy music there

BTW still flabbergasted how Spotify counts towards the chart while youtube not.

Just imagine. When you listen to music on youtube you also watch it usually = it means you like the song more, you sacrifice more attention. While Spotify usually plays in the background while make you tea or talk to guests or on the phone etc as it requires leaa attention, sometimes even random music from the playlists plays. And the first one gets no recognition

And I can not understand logic behind your explanation and how this is obvious for everyone

Posted by: Bjork 9th April 2017, 05:43 AM

because also sometimes people watch cos of the video not cos of the song, happens all the time in the US

iTunes now doesn't mean much, except when someone sells lots, Harry sure is on 30K already from iTunes (20K on Fri, 10K on Sat) vs. 10K max for CB, so he is gonna be #1 for sure imho, regardless of streaming...

Posted by: SKOB 9th April 2017, 05:51 AM

To get a 100m video on Youtube you only need Shakira or J.Lo on it so I don't think singles chart should count those.

Posted by: Bjork 9th April 2017, 05:56 AM

for instance in the US, when Gaga was huge, she performed the song Dope on some award, millions watched the performance on YT but no one bought it or anything, were fan/curious visions, but still got to #8 on the back of that... which is wrong... same with videos that go viral (Black Beatles, Harlem Style)

Posted by: ankietarrr 9th April 2017, 06:25 AM

video is ingredient of the song.

Spotify r other streaming customers do not pay for song byt monthly fee

Watching video is still a song 'consumption' even more than streaming as I said people watching video pay even more attention

Posted by: Bjork 9th April 2017, 06:55 AM

people watch the Mannequin challenge video on YT, they watch it cos of the song? nope, they watch it cos of the challenge, video going viral etc... but song goes to #1 on the US... wrong imo

Posted by: SKOB 9th April 2017, 07:05 AM

So you're saying Black Beatles was a hit ONLY because of the Mannequin challenge?

Posted by: Bjork 9th April 2017, 07:09 AM

I'm saying why it was "#1 in the US", not why it was a hit in the UK

Posted by: cqmerqn 9th April 2017, 08:37 AM

This WAS a hit due to the Mannequin challenge...

Posted by: ThePensmith 9th April 2017, 10:06 AM

Daily Star Sunday confirms this morning "Shape of You" currently leads for number one. Is still strong on streaming and is outselling "Sign of the Times" by 6 copies to 1, latter of which is #1 on sales but 14 on streams. The ghost of "Look at Me" rattles its chains...

Posted by: timjimlee 9th April 2017, 10:16 AM

Read the Article http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/goss/604065/ed-sheeran-shape-of-you-harry-styles-no-1-singles-chart but not sure it mentions that Ed leads Harry or maybe I missed something else in the Newspaper?

Posted by: SKOB 9th April 2017, 10:32 AM

No it wasn't

Of course it helped but Rae Sremmurd have had five top 40 hit in the US already and BB is a good song.

Btw No Type is still their best selling digital song

Posted by: Lenny 9th April 2017, 10:38 AM

I think so, yes!

Posted by: Davidson 9th April 2017, 10:42 AM

I would be massively surprised if that Daily Star article is doing anything other than predicting.

Harry will definitely be ahead for the first couple of days. It is by Wednesday onwards it gets a bit more tricky.

Posted by: cqmerqn 9th April 2017, 10:49 AM

There is no way that Harry isn't #1 atm...

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 9th April 2017, 11:09 AM

Yup there's no way anyone but Harry is #1 at this stage.

YouTube/Spotify discussion should happen in the pinned streaming thread please guys!

Posted by: ML Hammer95 9th April 2017, 11:35 AM

I don't think Black Beatles would have been nearly as successful in the UK as it was without the Mannequin Challenge. Would probably have been a US hit though...

Posted by: SKOB 9th April 2017, 11:37 AM

Exactly. I hate when people say that hip hop hits need to have VIRAL VIDEOS to be hits. They don't. They can be hits in their own right too.

Current case: Kendrick Lamar's Humble. What a magnificent song

Posted by: Tinasha 9th April 2017, 11:57 AM

But he's saying it did need he MC for the size of its UK success?

Posted by: Mart!n 9th April 2017, 12:37 PM

I think I take that with a pinch of salt, as there be stream sales missing from the previous day, which are probably not factered in.

Posted by: ML Hammer95 9th April 2017, 12:38 PM

It wouldn't have got to #2 certainly, but may have charted within the Top 40. It's as accessible as other US crossover hip hop hits we've had recently.

Also, the Kendrick video has had a huge reaction! Surely part of the reason for its success.

Posted by: Bjork 9th April 2017, 01:15 PM

the article is just speculating that Harry could lose it cos Shape has more streams
but it does not say who's #1 now (they don't know)

plus it says he opposite, it says Harry did 6 times more than Ed on iTunes, you read it wrong

Posted by: slowdown73 9th April 2017, 01:28 PM

If true, I'm pleased Harry Styles won't be no1.

Posted by: 360Jupiter 9th April 2017, 02:05 PM

Mannequin Challenge was essentially just an ad for the song.

A track used prominently in an ad or on a TV show everyone watched ten-fifteen years ago would have had the same kind of boost.

Essentially a youtube trend is just another way of helping a song reach a wider audience than it would've otherwise.

Whether Black Beatles would've been a UK hit would depend entirely on whether it got airplay. Case in point, Rae Sremmurd's earlier US hits that are just as accessible but not playlisted or promoted here and so didn't make it very high in charts.

e.g.

(UK #93)

(UK #137)

Posted by: Steve201 9th April 2017, 02:14 PM

No way Harry won't be no1 in the first mids as SOY was only on 25k last Monday!

Posted by: ♀mdh♀ 9th April 2017, 03:17 PM

Nah that's a load of rubbish. Harry Styles IS #1, it's impossible for him not to be.

Posted by: 34yopoppicker 9th April 2017, 06:33 PM

Hope Styles manages it. I have to say 2017 is totally eclipsing 2016 already. 2016 was a total future bass/tropical house nadir where I could barely find even any 8/10s in or out of the chart. Chained to the Rhythm, Green Light, Big For Your Boots, You Don't Know Me and Love (which sadly just missed out on the Top 40) were what 2016 was crying out for. The Sheerapocalypse was horrible, but 2017 is still vastly preferable to it's predecessor. I made an alternative Now 96, which shared about 12 tracks with the official one and it seems 2-17 has give us 30-40 absolutely bangers already. On the indie side of things, loving Circa Waves, The Amazons and The Hunna - today's guitar bands aren't crushed under the weight of hype like they used to be, which helps.

Posted by: mr_pmt 9th April 2017, 08:35 PM

I really can't see Harry not making #1 officially.

Posted by: timjimlee 9th April 2017, 09:24 PM

Take That should get a few of their older Albums in the lower reaches of the chart this week after their TV special.
Interesting to see the Amazon movers & shakers chart which has the Albums that have shown the biggest increase in Sales rank in last 24 hours.
7 of their Albums in Top 20 of this chart - highest ranked is Greatest Day Live Album which somehow has shown a 7,270% increase in Sales ( sounds a bit unlikely that as it implies massive Sales but suspect has sold negligible copies so far this year before yesterday).

Posted by: slowdown73 9th April 2017, 09:57 PM

How can it be impossible he's not no1? Ed has massive streams which account for 80% of single sales in the current climate. Styles isn't top 5 in streaming yet so hopefully he won't be no1.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 9th April 2017, 10:01 PM

Did you not see the huge lead Harry had on sales on Friday? It's totally impossible for Ed to be ahead of him right now. The article in question was merely speculating...

Posted by: Suedehead2 9th April 2017, 10:12 PM

The percentage is based on the change in position, not sales. For example, if an album goes from number 2 to number 1, that is a 100% increase.

Posted by: timjimlee 9th April 2017, 10:24 PM

Oh that makes more sense, thanks for the clarification. May not be quite the impact I initially thought then.

Posted by: slowdown73 10th April 2017, 06:40 AM

No, I didn't see the huge lead but I guess we'll find out later today when we get the midweeks. I'd be surprised if he was no1.

Posted by: M4NG0 10th April 2017, 08:49 AM

I can't remember the last time opinion was so divided on here as to whether someone definitely will or definitely won't be Number 1

Posted by: timjimlee 10th April 2017, 08:56 AM

Yes definitely one of the most eagerly awaited Midweek updates for a while...

Posted by: SKOB 10th April 2017, 09:20 AM

Kworb doesn't show any position for Chainsmokers' album on UK iTunes. Is it available at all?

Posted by: ♀mdh♀ 10th April 2017, 09:30 AM

3. The Chainsmokers - Memories..Do Not Open

-x-

I just don't understand why people think he'll miss #1 I'm pretty sure he'll open with around 42k, MILES ahead of everyone else.

Posted by: Mart!n 10th April 2017, 09:36 AM

We shall see later on, I still think Harry is a dead cert for #1, I can't see Ed Sheeran getting another week, unless Clean Bandit get there, its really between those 3 artists.

Posted by: Davidson 10th April 2017, 10:24 AM

I think it's going to be really close between the top 3 of 'Signs of The Time', 'Galway Girl' and 'Symphony'. I can see 'Shape Of You' finally falling to #4.

Adding together streams and sales, I would say that 'Galway Girl' is probably overall doing the best today. It is at 0.54 of Harry on iTunes and has nearly double the streams and we all know that streams definitely hold the weight over sales in such a scenario; if this is the case Ed is going to be raking up better sales (as in iTunes and streams) for 4 days of the week compared to Harry's 3. Also 'Galway Girl' seems to have closed the sales gap to 'Symphony' slightly on iTunes and is a good bit ahead of 'Symphony' on Spotify, so I would probably guess that together it is ahead of that too today.

I'm still thinking Harry will just manage the #1 but I wouldn't be too surprised to see Galway Girl at #1, Harry at #2 and CB stuck at #3 yet again. I'm just readying myself to be disappointed as there is still 4 days left and Harry can still fall a long way in that time.

Posted by: Tinasha 10th April 2017, 10:29 AM

There really isn't a question of whether Harry will be #1 in the mids today. It's a question of how big the lead is, that we'll find out.

Posted by: timjimlee 10th April 2017, 10:30 AM

A Video for 'Galway Girl' would make things interesting but suspect Ed wouldn't do this to his mate.

Posted by: Mart!n 10th April 2017, 10:37 AM

I think everyone is eager to find out if Harry is #1 today, there is already 350+ guests viewing Buzzjack

Posted by: dennispennis123 10th April 2017, 10:41 AM

Well he will be number #1 today, its all about the size of his lead at this point.

Posted by: 777666jason 10th April 2017, 10:56 AM

I don't think it will happen but it would be totally hilarious if harry isn't number 1 at least in today's update

Posted by: ♀mdh♀ 10th April 2017, 10:58 AM

Yeah - 99% sure Harry will be #1 today but it COULD be close overall, depending on how quick Clean Bandit gain on iTunes. Either way I reckon Symphony will be #1 next week.

Good to see we're actually getting an interesting period for #1 songs at last.

Posted by: howiet1971 10th April 2017, 11:03 AM

I'm rooting for Harry to be #1 - anyone but Sheeran please!

Posted by: Mart!n 10th April 2017, 11:23 AM

I would love to have Clean Bandit at #1 next week as that will be my Birthday #1 track for 2017, please make it happen.

Posted by: Bjork 10th April 2017, 01:21 PM

Minty:

Harry Styles is going to sell quite a lot less in week 1 than Zayn did with Pillowtalk, his streaming seems pretty low by comparison.

He is however preventing Galway Girl from being number 1 as it has finally got ahead of Shape Of You but only to 2.

In fact Galway Girl has more competition from Clean Bandit than Shape Of You.

I think Harry will be around 70-80k by the end and Galway was 60k last week. I'd like the excitement of being wrong though.

Posted by: ♀mdh♀ 10th April 2017, 01:28 PM

Predicting...

1. Harry Styles [38k]
2. Ed Sheeran (GG) [27.1k]
3. Clean Bandit [26.9k]
4. Ed Sheeran (SOY) [24.7k]

Posted by: timjimlee 10th April 2017, 01:29 PM

Pillowtalk sold 112K in week one so this is no great surprise.
Surely, greater than 65K total will be enough to secure top spot this week.

Posted by: luis felipe 10th April 2017, 01:35 PM

React, Louisa!

Posted by: SameBoy 10th April 2017, 01:35 PM

a great chart battle

Posted by: ElectroBoy 10th April 2017, 01:56 PM

I don't think that's a big enough lead to secure the number 1 come Friday especially with the iTunes lead diminishing by the hour and how far in front 2,3 and 4 are on spotify.

Posted by: Bjork 10th April 2017, 01:58 PM

what lead? we don't know the lead

Posted by: Mart!n 10th April 2017, 01:59 PM

This is going to be an interesting week and we are already on the 4th page with no mids.

Posted by: Mart!n 10th April 2017, 02:00 PM

mdh's post is a prediction

Posted by: pippa 10th April 2017, 02:15 PM

It is welcoming to see we may have a battle for number 1. I wouldn't be disappointed with either result from the front runners.

Posted by: ElectroBoy 10th April 2017, 02:29 PM

Oh haha - I didn't see the 'prediction' part

Disregard my previous post

Posted by: Glenn 69 10th April 2017, 03:01 PM

Doesn't Shape of You have at least 130,000 more daily streams than Galway Girl when all its Spotify formats are combined? I also don't think the Harry Styles track will appeal to his old 1D audience, which may be why it struggles on streams

I do agree it's great to have a chart battle for a change (have been following BJ and the charts for years even though I have only just got round to registering)

Posted by: J♀sh 10th April 2017, 03:10 PM

Lol these are on Popjustice now being called the midweeks

I wish GG picked a better week to finally overtake SOY, it really deserves a run at the top spot!!

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 10th April 2017, 03:13 PM

!!!!!!!

Also, on the topic of your predictions mdh, these were where things stood last Monday:

1 Ed Sheeran - Shape of You (23,684)
2 Ed Sheeran - Galway Girl (23,265)
3 Clean Bandit feat. Zara Larsson - Symphony (20,820)

Both Ed songs are surely a bit lower, while Symphony has probably increased a bit, so Harry's probably got a solid lead at this point?

Posted by: Doctor Blind 10th April 2017, 03:29 PM

I predict that Harry is on around 42K so far (on for maybe 80K by the end of the week) with “Shape Of You”, “Symphony” and “Galway Girl” all on/around 20K.

Posted by: 360Jupiter 10th April 2017, 03:44 PM

Must be galling for Harry and 1D fans for him to be selling so much less than Zayn when he was seen as the leader and Zayn as the betrayer for leaving.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 10th April 2017, 03:49 PM

Speaking as a 1D fan, I don't think the core fans really see things like that at all especially as a lot of them are still Zayn fans. Zayn just has a way more commercial song, that's all there is to it really.

Posted by: M4NG0 10th April 2017, 04:01 PM

But also we're now in a climate where first week sales are generally a bit lower. It would be more fitting to compare total sales of the two tracks in a few months time, and of course sales of the album.

Posted by: WallIsSoGood 10th April 2017, 04:12 PM

In all honesty, I can see Shape Of You returning to #1 next week of Galway Girll! Symphony's iTunes lead has been cut dramatically! It will be incredibly tight next week and if any are made 59p it could seal it for them!

Posted by: Court 10th April 2017, 04:17 PM

Zayn was always gonna sell more than the others upon debut because he left in the middle of a tour in a very dramatic way and had all the hype/build up since he was the first to release and every one thought he was gonna do something really different. Now that the bands on "hiatus" and they're all taking turns releasing solo music, the hype just isn't as large, no matter who was the most popular member. It's still impressive that Harry's even in the running for #1 as Niall was nowhere close, Louis didn't make it and unless he finds a dull week in the year and does quite a bit of promo, Liam probably won't either.

Posted by: PeteFromCats 10th April 2017, 04:18 PM

I've legitimately wated 5 minutes of my life reading people arguing over whether Harry Styles will be #1 in a midweek chart.

Posted by: d♀nG 10th April 2017, 04:27 PM

Trust me, we have had even more pointless arguments in the chart forum before

Posted by: timjimlee 10th April 2017, 04:29 PM

It's not wasted time though, it builds the anticipation! If it's any consolation judging by the number of people viewing the forum currently you are not alone!

Posted by: Doctor Blind 10th April 2017, 04:31 PM

Last week “Symphony” was up 12% whilst both Ed tracks were down 11-12%, even assuming that it levels off this week, they should be at the very least ahead of “Galway Girl” this week.

Therefore I actually think “Symphony” has a much better chance regardless. Last week it was up 12 % (mainly from streaming) and it is trending +44,948 plays week-on-week on Spotify with a concurrent 58K and 36K fall for “Galway Girl” and “Shape Of You” respectively. iTunes sales, as long as they remain constant should have a much smaller effect.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 10th April 2017, 04:31 PM

Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data:

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/

1 Harry Styles - Sign of the Times (29,695) *
2 Ed Sheeran - Galway Girl (14,171)
3 Clean Bandit feat. Zara Larsson - Symphony (13,988)
4 Ed Sheeran - Shape of You (12,790)
5 The Chainsmokers & Coldplay - Something Just Like This (9,190)

6-10
7 Martin Jensen - Solo Dance
8 Julia Michaels - Issues

11-20
11 Little Mix feat. Machine Gun Kelly - No More Sad Songs
12 Anne-Marie - Ciao Adios
13 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human
15 Rag'n'Bone Man - Skin
18 Disciples - On My Mind *
20 Lorde - Green Light

21-30
22 Beyoncé - Die With You *
23 Calvin Harris feat. Young Thug, Pharrell Williams & Ariana Grande - Heatstroke
24 Martin Solveig feat. Ina Wroldsen - Places *
25 Little Mix - Touch
29 Cheat Codes feat. Demi Lovato - No Promises *
30 Starley - Call On Me

31-40
31 The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk - I Feel It Coming ^
37 Stargate feat. P!nk & Sia - Waterfall *
40 Louisa Johnson - Best Behaviour *

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

1 Ed Sheeran - ÷ (30,111)
2 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human (11,383)
3 The Chainsmokers - Memories... Do Not Open (8,604) *
4 Deep Purple - Infinite (6,918) *
5 Take That - Wonderland (6,725)

6-10
6 Father John Misty - Pure Comedy *
7 Mike & The Mechanics - Let Me Fly *
9 Future Islands - The Far Field *

11-20
11 Motion Picture Soundtrack Album [Moana]
16 Rag’n’Bone Man - Wolves - EP *
17 Motion Picture Soundtrack Album [Trolls]
19 Brian May & Kerry Ellis - Golden Days *

21-30
23 Pentatonix - PTX – Vol. 4 *
26 Joey Badass - All-Amerikkkan Badass *

31-40
32 Big Moon - Love In The 4th Dimension *
34 Blaenavon - That’s Your Lot *
36 Bethel Music - Starlight – Live *
37 Depeche Mode - The Best of, Vol 1 ^

Click on the above relevant links.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 10th April 2017, 04:42 PM

From the OCC:

Seems like there's a chunk of streaming missing but that lead does look very good for Harry right now.

Posted by: Mart!n 10th April 2017, 04:44 PM

That's probably the glitch Friday morning

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th April 2017, 04:45 PM

Ooh Louisa in the top 40!

Issues at 8, will it finish there?

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 10th April 2017, 04:46 PM

We know as much as you right now

Posted by: Doctor Blind 10th April 2017, 04:47 PM

Looks like quite a bit of streaming data (Sat + Sun ??) missing, I did think it was odd that “Shape Of You” was below “Galway Girl”..

Posted by: Bjork 10th April 2017, 04:49 PM

mids look weird, there has to be more missing data than usual

Posted by: Hadji 10th April 2017, 04:49 PM

I hope Disciples can scrape the top 40 and I reckon Beyoncé will miss out

Posted by: Glenn 69 10th April 2017, 04:49 PM

Same amount of data missing as usual? I expect Harry will be Number 1 but the gap may well be cut.

Also, good to see Skin still rising and hope it gets to the top 10 eventually even though I doubt it will happen

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th April 2017, 04:49 PM

Omg Green Light top 20!

Posted by: timjimlee 10th April 2017, 04:50 PM

Not much impact for Take That Albums then after their TV Promotion at the weekend.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 10th April 2017, 04:57 PM

I was thinking this, although Passionfruit's still as high as #6 when it hasn't been top 10 on iTunes so far this week, so perhaps not? Things will even out as the week goes on anyway, a lot of those new entries will drop a fair bit (especially Beyoncé who's not on Spotify).

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th April 2017, 04:57 PM

'Scared Of The Dark' by Steps a welcome re-entry at #71

Posted by: Doctor Blind 10th April 2017, 04:59 PM

It could be that all the Apple streaming data is in (minus yesterday).. I know they love Drake over at Apple.

Posted by: 360Jupiter 10th April 2017, 04:59 PM

Louisa Johnson coming for that #40 smash... watch out Harry and Ed...

Posted by: PeteFromCats 10th April 2017, 05:00 PM

It would be amazing for Disciples to get another hit!

Posted by: ♀mdh♀ 10th April 2017, 05:04 PM

Are we all happy now? I'm assuming that with missing streaming data weighted in Harry will be at about 37k - and Symphony & Galway Girl around 25k. I guess that Clean Bandit COULD make it, but I think Harry will hold on.

Expecting all but Disciples to fall out in terms of the other new entries - depending on whether they get a Hot Hits add tomorrow morning Cheat Codes could stay in but the rest are going to fall out. I guess we have Saturday and Sunday's Spotify missing.

Posted by: liamk97 10th April 2017, 05:33 PM

MW sales added.

Posted by: d♀nG 10th April 2017, 05:44 PM

I hope so but I think Spotify data is missing so Disciples will finish a lot lower come Friday

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th April 2017, 06:03 PM

6k for Take That is a bit grim after appearing on Graham Norton and having a TV show dedicated to them on ITV

Posted by: ♀mdh♀ 10th April 2017, 06:05 PM

I guess that most of the TV shows viewers are from Take That's fanbase, therefore most of them will have already purchased the album.

Posted by: mr_pmt 10th April 2017, 06:17 PM

I'm pretty sure 130k of viewers wasn't "most" of them.

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 10th April 2017, 06:27 PM

I hope Louisa can hang in there

Posted by: 34yopoppicker 10th April 2017, 06:29 PM

Thank feck SOY is off in any case. Liking the seven new entries, hope they stay.

Posted by: njhag 10th April 2017, 06:36 PM

Take That got 2.7 million viewers on Saturday

Posted by: Soy Adrián 10th April 2017, 06:59 PM

Future Islands!

Won't stay in the top 10, but still a great result.

Posted by: pippa 10th April 2017, 07:07 PM

As a fan i am more than disappointed with the sales effect for Take That after such strong promotion over the weekend. I am especially surprised the Ultimate Collection has falling in the charts rather than showing a climb, on a brighter point Giants is climbing at 78, i hope it can stay top 100.

Wonderful to see Steps Scared of the Dark back in the chart at number 71.

Posted by: Zárate 10th April 2017, 07:44 PM

I can see Martin Solveig still enter the top-40 as 'Places' is at 40 on Spotify.

The midweek update is very sketchy, we have just to wait and see what will be going on next. Clean Bandit are down 33% (7k!) Monday-to-Monday! So I'm pretty sure 2 Spotify streaming days are missed.

Posted by: 777666jason 10th April 2017, 08:04 PM

So really harry not gonna have mAssive sales he just gonna get number 1 by releasing it at right time if he released a few weeks ago he wouldn't great strategy by his label really

Posted by: ♀mdh♀ 10th April 2017, 08:15 PM

My calculations say if there is indeed two days of Spotify missing, Clean Bandit are on about 20.3k, and Harry Styles is on 33.5k.

Going on this basis, Clean Bandit will have to outsell Harry by 3.3k every day to get the #1 - and judging by the fact Harry is still ahead on iTunes and Clean Bandit are only 1.4k ahead on streaming sales, this tells me that unless Clean Bandit can get Harry down to 0.5 for the rest of the week, they've got no chance of the #1. Soz.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 10th April 2017, 08:17 PM

Thanks for this mdh! Harry definitely seems to have #1 on lock now he's stabilised on iTunes, great news

Posted by: Glenn 69 10th April 2017, 09:17 PM

Does Train somehow climbing to #44 mean all Spotify data could be missing from this update?

Posted by: cqmerqn 10th April 2017, 09:18 PM

Nah, Train have gained this week due to the Now! CD coming out.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 10th April 2017, 09:20 PM

It has a second version in the iTunes top 100 so that's just the Now 96 effect. There'll be at least one day of Spotify I'm sure.

(edit: oops, beaten to it!)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th April 2017, 10:21 PM

Had hoped for much better sales for Take That after their show, looks like they will sell less than last week

I really thought Harry would have much higher sales today than he has (even counting in estimated streams)

Posted by: Lenny 10th April 2017, 10:25 PM

It's obvious there is something missing, the Ed tracks and Clean Bandit can't be THAT much down on last week.

And likewise, that also means Harry's figure will be higher. Perhaps it'll be a little closer when the missing sales are added, though I doubt it'll make much difference to the number 1 on Friday.

Posted by: mr_pmt 10th April 2017, 10:47 PM

I am super glad it looks like Martin Solveig should be guaranteed a top 40 place at long last.

Posted by: sammy01 11th April 2017, 10:04 PM

Whatever way you slice it those sales for Harry are disappointing (even if a few extra k are added in).

Posted by: 777666jason 11th April 2017, 10:13 PM

Agreed he only getting the number 1 due to low sales I'd hav e expected much more

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 11th April 2017, 10:17 PM

I'd have expected higher sales if this song was pandering to the current trends and was half the length it actually is, but it's a bold move for a debut single and if someone less known than Harry released this, it wouldn't be going anywhere near #1, so it's doing just fine I'd say.

Posted by: Tinasha 11th April 2017, 10:23 PM

Yeah Harry song would never have even debuted top 20 if it were released by say The xx or London Grammar for example. It sounds like an album seller, not a radio hit and the main reason it's done the numbers it has is because he's Harry Styles. For the type of song it is, it's done impressively, very few other artists would have done those numbers with the same song. If he'd released something as generic as Shape Of You, it would have been on double the sales already.

Posted by: Mart!n 11th April 2017, 10:27 PM

Also looking back the last person to get a week at #1 was actually ZAYN, I wonder if Liam will get a week at #1 next when he releases his solo material at some point.

Posted by: howiet1971 12th April 2017, 09:22 AM

What utter tosh! The Harry song is both credible and commerical, that's why it's doing well. Since when is releasing something as appaulingly generic like Shape Of You to be applauded?? Isn't it pretty questionable whether Sheeran has many original bones in his body - see yesterday's press!

Sales do not equate to quality, nor do chart positions.

Posted by: Bjork 12th April 2017, 09:29 AM

^That's what he's saying, that Harry's song is not generic, and that's why it's selling less

Posted by: Tinasha 12th April 2017, 09:35 AM

Yes, you've literally made points completely unrelated to what I said. No where have I mentioned that sales equate to quality, nor have I applauded Shape of You being generic? I'm simply saying that Harry's sound is somewhat risky, and isn't generally the sound that the general public buys and streams en masse at the moment.

Posted by: 360Jupiter 12th April 2017, 09:43 AM

I don't think Harry's song is commercial at all, except in the sense of the term that it will sell, and that's mainly on brand recognition and loyalty.

It's over 5 minutes long and doesn't sound remotely like anything else in the charts at the minute.

Posted by: liamk97 12th April 2017, 10:26 AM

Harry is on 47k and 'Shape of You' is on 39k: http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/harry-styles-vs-ed-sheeran-the-gap-closes-in-this-week-s-race-for-number-1-on-the-official-singles-chart__18759/

Posted by: Mullo 12th April 2017, 10:26 AM

It looks like the race for the UK’s Official Number 1 single will go right down to the wire this week.

According to Official Charts Company data, Ed Sheeran’s Shape Of You is closing the gap on Harry Styles’ Sign Of The Times, separated by 8,000 units (downloads and streaming equivalent sales) in today’s sales flash (April 12).

Earlier this week on the Official Chart Update, Harry had a lead of 15,500 over his closest competition, Sheeran’s Galway Girl. The gap between Harry and Ed has since halved, as reigning chart topper Shape Of You continues to be a runaway hit on streaming services, pushing it up from Monday’s position at Number 3 to Number 2 today. However, Harry is performing well on downloads, currently outrunning Shape Of You by 3:1.

The One Direction star’s debut release has so far racked up 47,000 copies across all formats, versus Shape Of You’s 39,000, and there’s still 48 hours to go in this week’s chart race.

(OCC)

Posted by: Tinasha 12th April 2017, 10:29 AM

Gosh, upweighted streams on Friday makes me think Shape might just do it

Posted by: Jack 12th April 2017, 10:34 AM

Literally ANYTHING but Shape Of You please

Posted by: M4NG0 12th April 2017, 10:49 AM

Exciting! Hope we get Thursday mids this week

Posted by: WallIsSoGood 12th April 2017, 10:55 AM

Looking likely that 'Shape Of You' will be number one this week then! To think we all thought that Harry's biggest challenger would be 'Symphony'! Unless 'Symphony' starts pulling away on Spotify I can see 'Shape Of You' hanging on next week too considering it's 120,000+ current Spotify lead!

Posted by: gooddelta 12th April 2017, 10:57 AM

The 1D fans will need to organise some more streaming parties!

I'm astonished how low Harry's sales are. Commercial or not, I'd have expected anything with his name attached to shift at least 80k first week on fanbase and curiosity sales/streams alone

Posted by: ElectroBoy 12th April 2017, 11:04 AM

Maybe we should arrange some Symphony parties

Posted by: timjimlee 12th April 2017, 11:08 AM

Looks like number 1 will sell in region of 60-65k this week then, my guess would be around 62k.
Another 15k might be a stretch for Harry unless his fans are mobilized to stream on repeat.

Posted by: gooddelta 12th April 2017, 11:11 AM

Sounds like a good idea.

I mean I loved Shape three months ago but it's time for people to move on

Posted by: WallIsSoGood 12th April 2017, 11:11 AM

The acoustic version is beautiful!

Posted by: mr_pmt 12th April 2017, 11:12 AM

URGH. Why can't it be 'Symphony' if anything's going to challenge?

I'm so unbelievably sick of this now.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 11:20 AM

I think Harry will nab it still, the gap is smaller on Spotify now and he's pretty stable on iTunes so I think he'll maintain the #1 spot by Friday.

Posted by: Bjork 12th April 2017, 11:27 AM

me too, the gap was always gonna close when adding the Spotify missing data, it's not that Ed is gaining on him

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 11:35 AM

I expect Ed probably is gaining on him but you're right, the missing weekend Spotify data will no doubt give Ed a huge helping hand, the gap on Spotify is smaller now.

Posted by: Jonjo 12th April 2017, 11:46 AM

FFS.

Definitely thought Harry would be a lot closer to 100k than where he's at currently. Give me 'Galway Girl' over bloody 'Shape Of You'! PLEASE! I really can't deal with the charts right now.

Posted by: dennispennis123 12th April 2017, 12:27 PM

Egg on the faces of those who said Harry would run away with the #1 this week.

I knew it would be close given how far behind on streams he is/was.

Posted by: The Hit Parade 12th April 2017, 12:29 PM

I just streamed the other three versions so that's a fraction of an extra sale for them. I think I prefer the "alternative" one over the original actually.

Posted by: Hadji 12th April 2017, 12:32 PM

Spotify could cost Harry the #1. Well done Spotify

Posted by: ♀T Boy♀ 12th April 2017, 12:38 PM

I'm more surprised that any of you are surprised tbh. The chart is more accurate than it's ever been and Shaoe If You is clearly the most popular song around

Posted by: Zárate 12th April 2017, 12:41 PM

I think Harry will make it to #1 with the gap of 3-5k. Not much BUT AT LEAST IT'S A BLOODY NEW #1.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 12:46 PM

Yesterday's mids have come in, I won't do a full update because we'll be getting a Music Week top 40 later, but Harry was on 40k yesterday and Shape of You was on 30k, meaning Harry sold ~7k yesterday and Ed sold ~9k. Even bearing in mind there's one day of missing streaming, Shape shouldn't be able to catch Harry.

Posted by: Chez W♀mbat 12th April 2017, 12:52 PM

Well, at least it's a chart battle between two fresh songs, oh wait....

Posted by: M4NG0 12th April 2017, 12:56 PM

Until Shape overtakes it to #1 again next week

Posted by: Zárate 12th April 2017, 12:58 PM

I really hope 'Symphony' manages to overtake 'Shape' next week. Even if 'Symphony' stalls 'Shape' is in a steady decline, which I hope should be enough for them to swap places at least next week.

Posted by: WallIsSoGood 12th April 2017, 01:00 PM

I'm hoping that Symphony gets a boost on iTunes when it returns to number one, 'Symphony' could also potentially climb to #1 on Spotify tomorrow so that could have a positive affect! It's currently #4 in the mids, 1.7k behind Galway Girl and 2.9k behind 'Shape Of You! It could overtake 'Galway Girl' though!

Symphony Streaming Party

Posted by: timjimlee 12th April 2017, 01:04 PM

Whilst I agree with you on the outcome Tuesday is typically the lowest Sales day of the week so we should be cautious on extrapolating yesterday's Sales for rest of week Sales. Daily Sales for Wed and Thu likely to be a bit higher than yesterday.

Posted by: Hadji 12th April 2017, 01:10 PM

If SOY gets knocked off the top on Friday but returns to the top next week, I wouldn't mind because he won't have beaten Bryan's record

Posted by: Mart!n 12th April 2017, 01:17 PM

Looking at yesterday's mids, I think Harry has got a clear lead, we should get a more clear picture later.

Posted by: timjimlee 12th April 2017, 01:31 PM

Next week is certainly looking even harder to predict than this week but I think there may be a Video or two dropped next week to influence Sales.
Looks like Harry has gone big budget on his Video, I wouldn't mind predicting will be released on Friday.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 02:22 PM

Early update incoming

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 02:30 PM

Wednesday Top 40 Update
Source: Music Week
Missing Data:

Singles

1 Harry Styles - Sign of the Times (47.0k) *
2 Ed Sheeran - Shape of You (38.6k)
3 Ed Sheeran - Galway Girl (36.9k)
4 Clean Bandit feat. Zara Larsson - Symphony (35.0k)
5 Drake - Passionfruit (26.7k)

6-10
7 Martin Jensen - Solo Dance

11-20
12 Anne-Marie - Ciao Adios
13 Bruno Mars - That's What I Like
14 Jax Jones feat. RAYE - You Don't Know Me
16 Little Mix feat. Machine Gun Kelly - No More Sad Songs
18 Rag'n'Bone Man - Skin
19 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human
20 Lorde - Green Light

21-30
23 The Chainsmokers - Paris
24 Little Mix - Touch
25 Jason Derulo feat. Nicki Minaj & Ty Dolla $ign - Swalla
26 Martin Solveig feat. Ina Wroldsen - Places *
27 Future - Mask Off
29 Starley - Call On Me

31-40
32 Disciples - On My Mind *
34 Dua Lipa - Be the One

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 Ed Sheeran - ÷ (56.5k)
2 Rag'n'Bone Man - Human (18.2k)
3 The Chainsmokers - Memories... Do Not Open (14.1k) *
4 Drake - More Life (11.6k)
5 Take That - Wonderland (11.5k)

6-10
6 Deep Purple - Infinite *
7 Father John Misty - Pure Comedy *
8 Mike & The Mechanics - Let Me Fly *
9 Motion Picture Cast Recording - Moana (OST)

11-20
14 Little Mix - Glory Days
15 Future Islands - The Far Field *
18 Motion Picture Cast Recording - Trolls (OST)
20 Rag’n’Bone Man - Wolves - EP *

21-30
21 Joey Badass - All-Amerikkkan Badass *
25 Brian May & Kerry Ellis - Golden Days *

31-40
32 Pentatonix - PTX – Vol. 4 *
36 twenty one pilots - Blurryface
38 Blaenavon - That’s Your Lot *
40 Depeche Mode - The Best of, Vol 1 ^

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 02:33 PM

Ed didn't outsell Harry by quite as much as I thought yesterday, by about 1.2k in fact, so an 8k lead does look too big for Ed to overcome.

If we assume everything sells the same today and tomorrow (it won't of course, but for estimating purposes), then the top 4 on Friday will look like:

NEW 1 SIGN OF THE TIMES HARRY STYLES (60.1k)
1 2 SHAPE OF YOU ED SHEERAN (54.0k)
2 3 GALWAY GIRL ED SHEERAN (51.1k)
3 4 SYMPHONY CLEAN BANDIT FT ZARA LARSSON (48.8k)

Bearing in mind there's almost definitely a day of Spotify missing (in today's Spotify update, there's a 1.6k chart sale gap between Ed and Harry), but that's still a comfortable lead for Harry

Posted by: Bjork 12th April 2017, 02:41 PM

yes, think Harry will be just safe, close but safe

so yesterday Harry did only 1.2K less that Shape... what about Symphony? cos it's doing double than Shape on iTunes and it's just barely 100K behind on Spotify now

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 02:43 PM

~700 copies less for Symphony yesterday! Tuesday's biggest sellers:

1 Shape of You
2 Galway Girl
3 Symphony
4 Sign of the Times

then quite a big drop to Drake who was the fifth biggest seller yesterday.

Posted by: Davidson 12th April 2017, 02:49 PM

Yeah, I think Harry will end up being about 3-4k ahead still by the end of the week.

Then we may end up with a 50k 'Shape Of You' #1 the following week

Posted by: Tinasha 12th April 2017, 02:50 PM

I know it's a third single, but No More Sad Songs deserved a better peak.

Posted by: Bjork 12th April 2017, 02:53 PM

i think it will be Symphony next week, sure it will return to #1 on iTunes in a couple of days, and could climb to #1 on the Spotify list too (even if Shape is #1 combined) but the visibility gained then should give it more sales and streams... CB should do like Ed and start releasing multiple versions on Spotify with any rent-a-rapper they could get from Pitbull to Flo Rida ;D cos it's all those versions that are keeping Shape at #1

Posted by: Tinasha 12th April 2017, 02:54 PM

Honestly, Clean Zara should 59p on Friday, they'd get quite the iTunes bump and easily secure the #1 I'd say.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 02:54 PM

59p would be a VERY smart move for Clean Bandit next week, I really hope they grab that opportunity.

Failing that, might as well call up Sean Paul again for a remix

Posted by: d♀nG 12th April 2017, 03:05 PM

LMAO if after all this the number one single is just 'Shape of You' again.

Really hope Clean Bandit tries for the #1 next week though.

#SymphonyStreamingParty

Posted by: Mart!n 12th April 2017, 03:10 PM

I'm really hoping Clean Bandit are #1 next week, I don't really want Ed Sheeran as my birthday #1 track of 2017

Posted by: Andrew♀ 12th April 2017, 03:15 PM

Is Zara's album top 20?

Posted by: Tinasha 12th April 2017, 03:25 PM

It is!

Posted by: gavindeejay 12th April 2017, 03:29 PM

I hope 'Shape Of You' doesn't go back to Number 1 next week! We really need to start moving on from it now!

Posted by: girl_from_oz 12th April 2017, 03:39 PM

Harry will probably be number one, I wonder if Ed will also get knocked off the top of the albums, not this week but the following Friday by Kendrick Lamar

Posted by: timjimlee 12th April 2017, 03:48 PM

Doubt it, previous Studio Album from Kendrick in 2015 opened at number 1 with 30k.
Ed will probably still have enough Sales to hold off Kendrick and all other challengers until Gorillaz.

Posted by: PeteFromCats 12th April 2017, 03:48 PM

Positions for Kidz Bop & Jamiroquai please?

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 03:49 PM

#10 and #16!

Posted by: gooddelta 12th April 2017, 03:59 PM

Steps could mount a challenge in the album chart in a couple of weeks. I guess they'll fall short of No.1 but I could see them shifting 30k!

Posted by: Ryan. 12th April 2017, 04:04 PM

I know it's not an on-trend song or whatever but I am massively shocked by Harry's underperformance. To be scraping 60k if he's lucky? Only just creeping into the Spotify top 10 after nearly a week? He's supposed to be the most popular member of the biggest boyband of this century, I thought he'd be sailing past 100k with ease. In fact when I heard the song on the Friday morning I thought it was so different to general trends it'd be pushing 200k first week and #1 for at least a month. Really shocked by his performance personally and I'm struggling to see him lasting long as a solo star.

Posted by: common sense 12th April 2017, 04:11 PM

Divide won't shift 100k this week then.

Posted by: timjimlee 12th April 2017, 04:12 PM

Good luck with that but in fairness it has been doing quite well on Pre-order so could pull a surprise that week.

Anyway, isn't Ed starting his UK Tour soon? His Album Sales will stay healthy for a few weeks yet.

Posted by: common sense 12th April 2017, 04:12 PM

Yes I'm shocked too and was predicting 150-200k actually and an easy No.1 for a few weeks.

Posted by: gooddelta 12th April 2017, 04:17 PM

Indeed, and they pulled off a surprise No.1 in 2011. I don't actually think it will be No.1 as Ed will be too strong to overcome for the reason you mentioned, but can see it opening with healthy sales at No.2.

Posted by: pippa 12th April 2017, 04:18 PM

I hope Take That can continue closing in on Drake and take the number 4 album position.

Posted by: gooddelta 12th April 2017, 04:21 PM

I thought the same. Usually when something sounds SO different, it can sometimes help to kickstart a new trend, and we see huge sales for it. Granted this was easier to do in the days of held back releases, and this song might be a grower for many and a steady seller.

It annoys me a bit that it's underperformed so much because I just want somebody, anybody (!) to break this horribly tired tropical house/future bass monopoly that exists on streaming services, and therefore officially.

Posted by: Mart!n 12th April 2017, 04:39 PM

Its not even going to beat ZAYN's first week sales of 112,497, and I was thinking Harry could at least do 150k. Considering I'm not even a 1D fan, I do like the track as you said its something different, for me the fans were probably expecting a pop track, and they couldn't connect to his new style and sound.

Posted by: ♀mdh♀ 12th April 2017, 04:43 PM

Yeah, quite sure that Harry is safe for this week. I'm also relatively sure that Symphony will be #1 next week too.

Posted by: mr_pmt 12th April 2017, 05:02 PM

I'm actually pretty fuming that Clean Bandit is still behind the two Ed tracks and unlikely to overtake.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 05:06 PM

I expected more at first but honestly it doesn't sound like a hit to me and without his name power, this type of song wouldn't be troubling the top 40 even with radio support I expect, so I don't think it's doing badly by any means. It's the type of song that will sell more albums than singles I think, I really don't think we can make judgements about his longevity as a solo star yet.

Posted by: timjimlee 12th April 2017, 06:13 PM

Clean Bandit may yet get to number 1 next week but I do find it slightly odd that people are strongly predicting a song that is set to go down this week.
I understand the rationale but for those that don't follow the Chart so closely it is tough one to understand a 3 place improvement after a 1 place decline.
I guess the logic is the cumulative Sales are declining less than the other challengers.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 06:19 PM

The bit in bold is exactly what people are referring to and that's ultimately what decides the positions after all.

I can't call next week at all right now, Harry will likely go 1-4 (or perhaps a spot or two lower) but as to what will be #1, I really have no clue

Posted by: FleetSeb 12th April 2017, 06:19 PM

I think the other thing to factor in is that although Harry's single is different to what is out there it is not exactly a "new sound". It sounds an awful lot like songs from Prince and Bowie from the past. It's not like he's created some new genre or doing anything original, I wonder if that is also impacting his sales because the type of people he is appealing to already own a lot of this kind of music (done better by others in my opinion).

Posted by: ♀mdh♀ 12th April 2017, 06:27 PM

I feel as though next week we'll get...

1. Clean Bandit
2. Ed [Galway Girl]
3. Ed [Shape]
4. ???
5. Harry Styles

...got a gut feeling that something is either going to EXPLODE or there'll be a surprise release from a big artist.

Posted by: Mart!n 12th April 2017, 06:34 PM

DNCE feat. Nicki Minaj - Kissing Strangers

Posted by: Bjork 12th April 2017, 06:41 PM

one thing that could benefit Shape/Galway and cost CB the #1 is that Ed's UK tour starts this weekend and sure that's a lot of promo, sure it will encourage people to stream :/

Posted by: Tinasha 12th April 2017, 06:42 PM

..will struggle to make the top 100

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 06:45 PM

Not sure tours really affect the singles chart much? I've not noticed it to happen anyway.

Posted by: pippa 12th April 2017, 07:31 PM

I would be elated if Galway Girl can take the number 1. Its a close race or i should say by the end of week it will be a very close race for number 1.

Posted by: Jason 12th April 2017, 07:49 PM

According to Music Week, Sign of Times has shifted 49,996 copies.
Why did you post 47k?

Posted by: Bjork 12th April 2017, 07:57 PM

Was gonna post the same
So he's done nearly 50k then?

Posted by: Jason 12th April 2017, 07:59 PM

Yeah, Harry is definitely safe at number 1 on Friday then.

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 07:59 PM

Because 47k is correct and Music Week must have typo'd

Posted by: Glenn 69 12th April 2017, 08:00 PM

Think it will be close but think Harry will be No1. I actually like the Harry track but maintain my view that it won't appeal to his 1D fans out there

So his second single may make it clearer as to what longevity he has as a solo star

Posted by: Mart!n 12th April 2017, 08:01 PM

MW did a typo, its a 6 not 49

Posted by: Jason 12th April 2017, 08:03 PM

How do you know the other source is right?

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 08:07 PM

Because it matches the OCC's article which says 47k too (and it's totally 100% reliable)

Posted by: Jason 12th April 2017, 08:17 PM

Do you have info outside top 40?
If the answer is YES, could you tell me where's Louisa Best Behaviour and Weekend's I Feel it Coming please?

Posted by: 777666jason 12th April 2017, 08:18 PM

Wow harry looking barely scrape with sales under 60k guess he not really the most popular member then and can't live up to the hype could he even turn out to be a non number 1 a fluke a

Posted by: Mart!n 12th April 2017, 08:19 PM

Give over... the last 3 digits are the same, on the MW report and the OCC's article, but the 49 should be 46 MW used the 9 instead of the 6

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 08:19 PM

Both top 50 (just about in Louisa's case) but neither are looking to (re-)enter the top 40 this week!


This isn't a measure of his personal popularity, it's the song itself...

Posted by: Tinasha 12th April 2017, 08:37 PM

Well, he had the fastest climb to #1 since Adele's Hello so he clearly is the most popular member. But like any song, if the public can't easily digest it, it'll fall, no matter who you are.

Posted by: Rob Spears 12th April 2017, 08:59 PM

Is it that important?

Posted by: Hadji 12th April 2017, 09:34 PM

Annoying that Disciples will miss the top 40 and yet they'll be top 10 on sales

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 12th April 2017, 09:40 PM

They aren't gonna miss the top 40

Posted by: Glenn 69 12th April 2017, 09:42 PM

Their streaming is worse than Train- only No181 on Spotify today. Hope they climb and maybe they can sneak in this week or next ?

Posted by: cqmerqn 12th April 2017, 09:43 PM

Correlation?

Posted by: Glenn 69 12th April 2017, 10:00 PM

Train are actually 50 places higher on Spotify than Disciples. They were also higher on Spotify than Disciples are now when they were top 10 on sales. Yet overall they only entered in the low 20s. Correlation is Disciples streaming total may well mean they miss the top 40 because I always think Thursday streams are over-weighted and seem to have a bigger effect on the chart compared to Wed/Thurs update than maybe they should do

Posted by: Better Man 12th April 2017, 10:07 PM

Well, of course it was 20 years ago, in a different market but Robbie's management specifically adhered the output of Angels single.
They had a strategy for gradually presentation of the album and Robbie-solo artist.
They felt they had done everything right even when the albums sales were not so great firstly but in parallel they had a sold-out tour so they jsut wait for a right moment for Angels.
And when people were amazed by Angels they released Let Me Entertain You and parallely Rob and Guy had already started to prepare the new album. They didn't want to stop the process. And they made it every 9 years in a row - to bring something new to audience.
So definitely he got all this success.

So in other words everything depends on Harry's (prepared) material and his personal ambitions. If he will have at least two great songs in near future and ready to work hard he will get success. If not - then not. This is a very fast life and business.
Anyway, I really think his current single is a very good start for him. I'm not fan of 1D at all, and had never heard any of their albums (I only liked History single) but Harry surprised me by this song I wish him good luck and be strong and diverse. And do not be afraid to be strange otherwise it will be ordinary.

Posted by: cqmerqn 12th April 2017, 10:15 PM

Train's song is an established hit whereas Disciples is only now starting to break.

Posted by: Supercell 12th April 2017, 10:31 PM

Interesting insight, I'd always thought it was odd that the record company never pushed Angles after his second single only just managed the top 10 and his album wasnt really selling well. But even so, Let Me Entertain you would have been a better lead single and would have set the stage for the rest of the album.

Back to the current charts, I think Harry will just about take it this week with it being a straight up but very close battle between Symphony and Galway Girl next week unless something comes out the blue. Either way I think GG will eventually reach no.1 at some point when the video drops and promo starts.

Posted by: Lenny 12th April 2017, 10:37 PM

But he's saying that when the Train track was breaking, it went top 10 on iTunes but nowhere on Spotify

Posted by: Jason 12th April 2017, 11:33 PM

Yes, 3k is really important to decide which single will be number 1 this Friday.
By the way, I would still bet all my money on Harry this week.

Posted by: WallIsSoGood 13th April 2017, 02:18 AM

Next weeks battle will be between 'Shape Of You' and 'Symphony'. 'Symphony' will no doubt be #1 on Spotify come Friday but it will still need to close the huge gap 'Shape Of You' has on Spotify due to the Stormzy remix. The only way I can see 'Galway Girl' getting number one next week is if he drops the music video / discounts it to 59p.

Posted by: scratchy23 13th April 2017, 06:48 AM

Symphony is now #1 on Spotify !!

Posted by: 777666jason 13th April 2017, 01:29 PM

Is this gonna be the first week the new ratio actually affects the number 1

Posted by: pippa 13th April 2017, 01:34 PM

Train from time to time deliver some great chart runs. Some of their singles dont achieve high "high" peaks but have longevity, but they never seem to be able to have hits back to back.

Posted by: chartdj 13th April 2017, 02:43 PM

I was thinking the same, it's a fluke for Styles, just this week he could get a #1, and even that wasn't sure with the previous ratio.
I was in favour of the new ratio because it makes downloads more relevant, but this week I'd prefer the old ratio.

Posted by: timjimlee 13th April 2017, 09:21 PM

Ed was out in Galway yesterday shooting his Video, he's certainly predictable our Ed. May be a stretch to edit in time for next week but if there is half a chance 'Galway Girl' can get to number 1 I'm sure it will get rush released.

Posted by: ankietarrr 13th April 2017, 11:10 PM

How to make Harry Styles number one?

To make them Ed Sheeran support artist

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 13th April 2017, 11:13 PM

Posted by: Lenny 14th April 2017, 02:15 AM

I honestly don't think the video is going to make any difference at all. They're already showing the lyric video on TV so it's not like airplay will increase.

Posted by: timjimlee 14th April 2017, 08:13 AM

Saoirse Ronan will appear in Video, I wouldn't be so sure it will have no impact. Wouldn't be surprised to see Released at same time as a Remix of the track as well.

Posted by: Mart!n 14th April 2017, 08:39 AM

As a reminder, due to Bank Holiday Monday, OCC might not update their site till Tuesday, MW will probably have a day off and Radio 1 are not likely to broadcast the update chart, for the latest mids information next week will most likely be Tuesday, so we have a longer wait next week to get mids

On that note I bid everyone a happy Easter weekend.