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Steve201
post 20th March 2015, 09:40 PM
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Anyone see this last Thursday evening - Charles Kennedy was almost certainly on the whiskeys beforehand. Must have seen the latest Ashcroft polls!!
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post 20th March 2015, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(steve201 @ Mar 20 2015, 09:40 PM) *
Anyone see this last Thursday evening - Charles Kennedy was almost certainly on the whiskeys beforehand. Must have seen the latest Ashcroft polls!!

Last week's panel was pretty poor. Charles Kennedy had either had a few or was simply unwell. The Labour and Tory representatives were both pretty weak as well. After all, it included defence minister Anna Soubry insisting that a reduction in service personnel from 95,000 to 82,000 was not a cut.
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post 20th March 2015, 10:00 PM
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Awful woman, she literally mirrors Thatcher in her styles of talking.

Yeh I love Charles Kennedy as an MP - good old SDP style Lib Dem but he wasn't all there and I did feel sorry for him a bit. Least we had Ian Hislop to give us his little insights.

This weeks one was much better - Will Self is always funny if a little too much and I like Chukka even if he clearly is desperate to be leader. The woman from the Tax Payers Alliance was a dose tho!!
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post 20th March 2015, 10:18 PM
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I'm not a fan of Will Self, so I decided that a combination of him and a dipstick from the Taxpayers' Alliance was too much to stomach.
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post 25th March 2015, 11:41 PM
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Ha Dipstick haven't heard that word in a while!
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post 26th March 2015, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Mar 20 2015, 10:18 PM) *
I'm not a fan of Will Self, so I decided that a combination of him and a dipstick from the Taxpayers' Alliance was too much to stomach.


Neither am I - he reviewed my friends Comics business in Putney and mentioned Comic Book Guy in a not particularly flattering way, when he's a gem of a person.

Self Self Self, if ever anyone was named correctly....
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post 26th March 2015, 10:55 PM
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I liked this clip of Will Self from Shooting Stars, apart from that I agree with everyone else. Not a fan at all.

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post 9th April 2015, 11:39 PM
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Liz Truss was spectacularly awful tonight. It was almost as if the Tories had deliberately decided to send their most patronising minister to represent them.
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post 9th April 2015, 11:45 PM
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Liz Truss was spectacularly awful tonight. It was almost as if the Tories had deliberately decided to send their most patronising minister to represent them.


She's hilarious.



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post 9th April 2015, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(Danny @ Apr 10 2015, 12:45 AM) *
She's hilarious.


Before tonight, I had thought that HIGNFY might have been exaggerating her inadequacy. Not any more.
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post 10th April 2015, 12:25 PM
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Eugh and then Louise Mensch on This Week after. I'm no Tory fan but they really can find better people to represent themselves than that awful pair!
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post 10th April 2015, 01:11 PM
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Indeed she was awful on it, a chip on her shoulder feminist with a right wing agenda!!
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post 29th October 2015, 11:13 PM
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You've got to love the Tories for their strange grip on reality. The former leader of the Scottish Tory party said tonight that Harold Wilson was unelectable. He led Labour into five elections. He won four of them.

She also said that she voted in favour of the tax credit cuts because she supported the principle of changes to the system and even though she didn't support the detail. If Osborne or Duncan Smith proposed shooting half a million unemployed people, would she vote for that because she supported the principle of reducing unemployment?
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post 29th October 2015, 11:53 PM
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If they so desperately wanted to cut the benefits bill (of which PENSIONS make an ever-increasing vast majority - £153bn or 58% of total welfare - but they won't because most of the old codgers are selfish bastards who vote in great numbers and usually for the Tories) they could start by looking at the housing benefit crisis which is brought about directly by failing government policy as reported in the Independent tonight.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-...s-a6713936.html

I suspect they won't though as most of this money ends up in the hands of .. you've guessed it rich Tory landowners/landlords or PENSIONERS. Ugh. Kill me now.
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post 29th October 2015, 11:58 PM
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One of the audience members tonight said that Labour had taken Scotland for granted. They were right. Labour has consistently taken its core support for granted. The Tories, by contrast, have always looked after their core supporters very well.
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post 30th October 2015, 02:44 AM
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Incorrect. The Tories have always been more vocal about looking after their core supporters very well. The biggest failure of the New Labour government wasn't that it didn't help the poor, but that by fearing its measures were less popular than they were, staying quiet about them. Which has meant plenty have been rolled back to little fanfare. If Osborne gets through tax credit cuts, arguably the only remaining substantive socioeconomic legacy of New Labour (other than to the generation growing up under it) will be equalities legislation.
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post 5th November 2015, 07:12 PM
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One of my favourite people, Victoria Coren, is one of the panelists on Question Time this evening. As is Peter Hitchens, who is also a human.
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post 5th November 2015, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Nov 5 2015, 07:12 PM) *
One of my favourite people, Victoria Coren, is one of the panelists on Question Time this evening. As is Peter Hitchens, who is also a human.

Debatable.
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post 5th November 2015, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Death @ Oct 29 2015, 11:53 PM) *
If they so desperately wanted to cut the benefits bill (of which PENSIONS make an ever-increasing vast majority - £153bn or 58% of total welfare - but they won't because most of the old codgers are selfish bastards who vote in great numbers and usually for the Tories) they could start by looking at the housing benefit crisis which is brought about directly by failing government policy as reported in the Independent tonight.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-...s-a6713936.html

I suspect they won't though as most of this money ends up in the hands of .. you've guessed it rich Tory landowners/landlords or PENSIONERS. Ugh. Kill me now.


The Max state pension is £150 a week. Most get less, and a couple much less. Selfish spongeing bast*rds lounging about on the hard-earned taxes of working people, and they don't even have the decency to drop dead at 65 (well, most of them at any rate). Jobseekers allowance is half that, though you might argue, ooh, older people have spent their life paying tax, and oh I dunno, young people haven't. Jobseekers and sickness benefit claimants also get just as many, if not more, cushy benefits as pensioners (free bus passes, free TV licence, winter heating bill): they get their council tax free, free dentistry, generous allowances for rent and property charges in flats. If they have children they get accommodation and child support worth up to 26K, which is more than I earn.

The problem isn't the allowances it's that older people turn up to vote and young people don't. Unless there's a sudden Corbyn-led wheeze to reduce the old folk numbers by some kind of Logan's Run cutting pensions, denying them access to the NHS that is never going to change as that's not much of a vote-winner (the Tories BTW are having a right old go at that right now by the way, first question you get asked when you ask for home help? Have you got any savings? First question you get asked when ill in hospital? Could you sign this please if you don't want resuscitation in the event you stop breathing. Cheaper you see than having 'em hanging around taking up a bed for years or home visits).

Savings for your old age suddenly disappear when you get ill. So, yes, old people feel pissed off about stuff, quite apart from feeling crappy, and motivated to vote.

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post 6th November 2015, 01:10 PM
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Last night's panel was one of the weakest I've seen for a long time. Justine Greening (Tory) just spouted the lines she's been given from Central Office. Ckuka Umunna spoke a lot but said very little. Jenny Jones (Green) was unmemorable and Peter Hitchens was is usual self, the odd good point amidst a load of nonsense. Victoria Coren-Mitchell was great on the NHS and attacking Umunna for being vacuous, less good on some other subjects. At least she was prepared to admit it when she wasn't an expert on a subject. Politicians are petrified of answering "I don't know". They hope that if they speak at sufficient length, the audience won't notice that they haven't actually said anything of substance.

The lad in the audience who didn't seem to have grasped what microphones do was quite amusing.
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