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Sour Candy View member profile	18th May 2015, 08:51 AM Post #1
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 22 December 2009 Posts: 30,345 User: 10,275	Sorry this is a bit short notice BUT I am a guest on a radio programme later today and talking about ESC. Do you think that ESC unites Europe OR does it actually separate East/west even more? This is a topic we are discussing..


Ryan. View member profile	18th May 2015, 12:26 PM Post #2
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 23 December 2010 Posts: 24,411 User: 12,608	I think it does unite Europe, there's no other event where every European country watches the same program at the same time and each get their own moment to shine with everyone else watching. You get the odd occasion when the divide is widened with the booing of Russia last year for example, but 99% of the time it definitely unites Europe. While I can't say first hand the situation between East and West prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union/Yugoslavia, I'm guessing that Eurovision has been a way for the East to establish itself in "modern Europe" with Estonia's win in 2001 being a key event. On a more human level we need to look no further than the Israeli press conference on Saturday where Israel's Nadav united with a Lebanese journalist for a photo - a massive statement of unity (even though we aren't necessarily in geographical Europe here).


Umi View member profile	18th May 2015, 01:21 PM Post #3
All I See br29 Joined: 17 August 2011 Posts: 12,907 User: 14,659	Yeah agreed that it's a uniting force rather than a divide. One of the things I really like about Eurovision is that it reminds western Europe that the eastern (and generally less influential) countries exist and are culturally significant. It's a way for the countries that don't get much of a chance to shine on the international stage to well, do that. And if it reminds people in the west that the countries in the east are part of the European family too then that's all the better.


p a v View member profile	18th May 2015, 01:34 PM Post #4
thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch Joined: 25 September 2007 Posts: 79,276 User: 4,397	eurovision. the reason for making questions like 'whats a slovakia' less and less common~


Coral5 View member profile	18th May 2015, 01:43 PM Post #5
PTTP Joined: 30 April 2012 Posts: 4,806 User: 16,865	- This post has been edited by Last Dreamer: 11th August 2015, 03:00 PM


Qassändra View member profile	18th May 2015, 03:46 PM Post #6
DROTTNING! Joined: 15 April 2006 Posts: 63,953 User: 480	Racist.


LexC View member profile	18th May 2015, 04:02 PM Post #7
Attack Dog/Sass Queen Joined: 29 January 2008 Posts: 16,022 User: 5,342	Eurovision is the greatest force for good that is actually quite terrible.


Qassändra View member profile	18th May 2015, 04:03 PM Post #8
DROTTNING! Joined: 15 April 2006 Posts: 63,953 User: 480	QUOTE(LexC @ May 18 2015, 05:02 PM) Eurovision is the greatest force for good that is actually quite terrible. You can SHUT THE FUCK UP you HOMOPHOBE


Sour Candy View member profile	19th May 2015, 10:01 AM Post #9
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 22 December 2009 Posts: 30,345 User: 10,275	QUOTE(Sword of Justice @ May 18 2015, 02:43 PM) Honestly I prefer old good Western Eurovision. From new countries I have a interest only in three participants (Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia), because their pop scene is not very far from Northern Europe. Eurovision of my dream, based on countries : Old Eurovision countries + let's get rid from the countries of ethnic horror music (Turkey and Israel) + add three Baltic ex-Soviet Union republics. With a participants from Eastern Europe we got new ESC trashmaker Ukraine and neighbours voting. No, thanks, goodbye. Right...


Sour Candy View member profile	19th May 2015, 10:04 AM Post #10
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 22 December 2009 Posts: 30,345 User: 10,275	Thanks for all the comments! We had a great discussion about this.. Generally everyone thought that ESC really unites more than EU can dream of and like said above it gives smaller countries a chance to shine (especially Baltic and Balkan countries) Also, basically the ESC community and fans, except Sword of Justice, all agree that the more participants the better.