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post 6th March 2015, 05:35 PM
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To mark the release of her 13th album Rebel Heart, we're kicking off Madonna Week on OfficialCharts.com and revealing her Official Top 40 biggest selling singles TOMORROW. What do you reckon the Top 5 is going to be? Have a guess in the comments below – anyone who gets it bang on will go into a draw to win some Madge goodies!
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post 6th March 2015, 07:33 PM
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I know that she doesn't have any million sellers! Arguably "Hung Up" would've been in a better sales climate.

"Into The Groove" is the biggest and that is still miles off, about 870K or something.
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Madonna’s Official Top 40 Biggest Selling Singles

It's the ultimate Madge chart. We count down Madonna's big ones – her Top 40 best sellers of all time.

She made it through the wilderness, somehow she made it through… and now, 31 years after her very first hit Holiday, Madonna is still getting everybody talking.

There’s plenty to say about her performances, her fashion sense, her pushing of boundaries and buttons when it comes to sex and ageing and religion and art, but to any of that, Madonna has needed one thing – her massive collection of hits.

To celebrate Madonna’s 13th stdio album Rebel Heart, out Monday, and her 71st Top 40 entry Living For Love, we count down Her Madgesty’s Top 40 bestselling singles in the UK.

And these are some big hits – her Top 40 alone amounts to over 15 million singles sales.

Let’s kick off with the Top 10, and, yes, we’re doing it in reverse order…

10. Beautiful Stranger (1999)


Outselling seven of Madonna’s chart-toppers is this William Orbit-produced slice of kitsch perfection, from the movie Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me.

Possibly the greatest Number 1 that never was for Madge, Beautiful Stranger had strong first-week sales of over 135,000 copies, but could not compete with S Club 7’s debut – Bring It All Back beat her to it, and denied Beautiful Stranger a place in chart history.

SALES: 532,500


CHART FACT: This was the ninth time Madonna had seen a single stall at Number 2 – she’s had 12 runners-up in total.

MADGE FACT: Madonna has only performed this song on tour once, during the Drowned World Tour in 2001.

9. Frozen (1998)

Now that’s what you call a comeback. After a few years off having her first baby Lourdes and making Evita – which won her a Golden Globe – Madonna returned with a new attitude and an album full of trance bangers and trippy beats.

Lead single Frozen was the perfect introduction and kicked off her work with William Orbit, who’d go on to collaborate with her on two further albums.

SALES: 551,400


CHART FACT: Frozen was Madonna’s first Number 1 in eight years – she hadn’t enjoyed a chart-topper since Vogue in 1990.

MADGE FACT: Madonna didn't really go brunette in the video for Frozen; it was a wig. The video was filmed in bright sunshine in the Californian desert, with the 1998 equivalent of about a million Instagram filters over the top to make it look colder.

8. True Blue (1986)


In many ways, Madonna’s most overlooked Number 1, True Blue came right bang in the middle of the star’s ‘imperial phase’. Written for and about her then-husband Sean Penn, True Blue is very much the unloved stepchild of Madonna’s back catalogue. She never performs it on tour and seems a little bit embarrassed by it.

It didn’t put off anybody buying it, though. While it was Number 1 for just a week, True Blue has outsold some of her more famous Number 1s, including poor old Vogue, which just misses the Top 10.

SALES: 556,900


CHART FACT: True Blue was knocked off Number 1 by EastEnders’ star Nick Berry’s anthem Every Loser Wins. I guess he was proven right that week at least.

MADGE FACT: True Blue was last performed on the Who's That Girl Tour in 1987. Let's just say Madonna does not take True Blue's calls. Not even at Christmas.

7. Like A Prayer (1989)

Madonna’s show-stopper and an instant classic, Like A Prayer was the centre of huge controversy upon release – all in a day’s work for Madge, really. A video featuring burning crosses and a violent murder was always going to grab some attention, and thanks to a well-known soft drinks firm pulling the plug on an advertising campaign featuring the song, its notoriety took it all the way to Number 1.

Also, Madonna hair fans, this was the first time she had led a new album campaign as a brunette. She’d do it only once more, on American Life in 2003.

SALES: 593,300


CHART FACT: Like A Prayer spent three weeks at Number 1 before being toppled by the Bangles’ Eternal Flame.

MADGE FACT: The saint who Madonna snogs in the church is widely, and mistakenly, believed to be based on Jesus. That's not true. He's actually supposed to be St. Martin de Porres, the patron saint of those seeking interracial harmony, which makes perfect sense when you watch the video.

6. Hung Up (2005)

When you start to count up Madonna’s comebacks and reinventions, you run out of fingers pretty quickly. Following what you might call a lukewarm reception to previous album American Life, Madonna decided it was time to crank up the disco beats and fill dance floors up and down the country, which she did with Hung Up, the lead from Confessions On A Dance Floor.

Featuring a mega-famous sample of Abba’s Gimme Gimme Gimme, Hung Up gave Madonna her biggest global hit in years, showed there was plenty of time for us all to get fit enough to buy a leotard and, more importantly, put Madge back at Number 1 where she belonged.

SALES: 617,000


CHART FACT: Hung Up was Madonna’s first Number 1 to spend more than a week at the top since Vogue in 1990.

MADGE FACT: Madonna had a nasty fall from her horse not long before the video was shot and broke her arm and some ribs. She said when she was dancing her arm felt like it was "flapping like a chicken wing". Hung Up's video had a kind of sequel, with the Sorry video picking up where Hung Up left off. Madonna hadn't done this since 1995, when You'll See carried on the story of the Take A Bow video.

Top 5! Are you ready? I’m waaaaaiting…

5. Papa Don’t Preach (1986)


Madonna’s first Number 1 from her classic True Blue album was one of her first major brushes with controversy. Papa Don’t Preach, which told the story of a pregnant teenage girl, angered both anti-abortion and pro-choice campaigners, but political wrangling aside, it was a brilliant pop song.

Madonna’s second Number 1, it ruled the Official Singles Chart for three weeks of summer 1986.

SALES: 645,000


CHART FACT: Papa Don’t Preach ended Wham’s reign at the top with Edge Of Heaven. It was eventually dispatched by Chris de Burgh’s romantic slow-dance classic The Lady In Red.

MADGE FACT: Madonna resurrected her famous 'Italians Do It Better' T-shirt on her 2004 Re-Invention Tour, sometimes switching out the nationality depending on where she was.

4. Holiday (1984, 1985, 1990)

The tune where it all began, which was so popular, she released it three times. Landing at Number 6 in winter 1984 and scoring Madonna her first Top 10, the song went on to bigger success the following year. Released in summer, which makes much more sense when you think about it – it’s about taking some time off, after all – Holiday zoomed to Number 2.

Madge obviously thought she might as well have another crack at Number 1 with Holiday, and so in 1991 released it again – as Madonna’s greatest hits mania was in full swing with the release of The Immaculate Collection. This time, it reached Number 5, but three entries in the Top 10 for the same song isn’t bad at all, really.

SALES: 709,400

CHART FACT: So who kept Holiday off the top? Well, it was the lady herself! One week in 1985, Holiday sat at Number 2 right behind Into The Groove at the top of the Official Singles Chart.

MADGE FACT: In the rarely seen official video for Holiday – that we imagine Madonna would probably rather pretend never happened – Madge's brother Christopher can be seen dancing on the left. They'd later have a huge falling out when Christopher wrote a tell-all book, but she's confirmed they're speaking again now.

3. Crazy For You (1985, 1991)


Madonna’s most successful ballad is officially this track that never actually appeared on any of her studio albums. Taken from the frankly dodgy movie Vision Quest – which would later be renamed Crazy For You for reasons we’re sure aren’t that hard to work out – Crazy For You saw Madge slow things down in the middle of the Madonna mania of the mid-eighties and reach Number 2.

Crazy For You was another of her old tunes that got a chance to chart again, coming out again in 1991 and, remarkably, hitting Number 2 once more.

SALES: 775,000

CHART FACT: On its first run, Crazy For You was kept off Number 1 by Sister Sledge’s Frankie. On its return to Number 2 in 1991, it was kept at bay by two records.

The Simpsons’ Do The Bartman (!) held it off first of all, then a rerelease of The Clash’s Should I Stay Or Should I Go leapfrogged over her to take the top spot.

MADGE FACT: Gambler was featured in Vision Quest too. Madonna hasn't performed that on any of her tours since her very first in 1985.

2. Like A Virgin (1984)

This is the one where everything changed for Madonna and she began to resemble the unstoppable force that would dominate pop in the Eighties. The Nile Rodgers-produced track didn’t just kick off the campaign for Madonna’s second album of the same name, Like A Virgin was also the first of an incredible run of 36 consecutive Top 10 entries. No star has bettered that yet.

Also incredible is that Madonna’s second biggest selling single wasn’t even a Number 1 – a question commonly incorrectly guessed in pub quizzes – it reached Number 3.

SALES: 826,700

CHART FACT: Like A Virgin was the 18th bestselling single of 1984.

MADGE FACT: Nile Rodgers, who produced the Like A Virgin album, has said that he was hoping to work with Madonna throughout her career, but his girlfriend didn't get on with actor Sean Penn, who ended up being the first Mr Madonna.

1. Into The Groove (1985)

It’s only right that the song that should rule them all is Her Madgesty’s very first Number 1, the song that started off a run of 13 Number 1 singles, more than any other female artist in British chart history.

Soundtracking Madonna’s big-screen debut in Desperately Seeking Susan, Into The Groove was a huge hit over summer 1985. Despite not having a proper video and thanks in part to not being available on Madonna’s Like A Virgin album – until a reissue solved that problem later on – Into The Groove stormed to the top of the Official Singles Chart and refused to budge for a month.

While Into The Groove may not hold the same affection for many as Holiday or Crazy For You still do, it still pretty much sums up Madonna’s whole ethos. “Only when I’m dancing can I feel this free,” she sings, barely pausing for breath, and she hasn’t stopped busting a move since.

An anthem fit for a queen, Into The Groove takes the throne – it’s her biggest selling song, and you can’t argue with that.

SALES: 871,300. Yep, that’s right, it’s not a million-seller. Madonna is one of the most successful acts of all time to still not nab a million-selling single.

CHART FACTS: Into The Groove is tied with Vogue for her longest stint at Number 1 – four weeks. It knocked Eurythmics’ There Must Be An Angel (Playing With My Heart) off the top. It was eventually toppled by UB40 and Chrissie Hynde with their cover of I Got You Babe.

Into The Groove also managed to keep Madonna herself off Number 1 – the rerelease of Holiday sat right behind it from 11–17 August 1985. Coincidentally, that was the week of Madonna’s 27th birthday.

MADGE FACT: Into The Groove would later feature in a jeans commercial, with a guest appearance from Missy Elliott and with refreshed lyrics. Missy would later team up with Madonna, Britney and Christina on that MTV VMAs performance in 2003.

Other notable entries
Madonna’s 1990 Number 1 Vogue just misses a Top 10 placing, landing at Number 11 with over 530,000 sales.

Her most recent chart-topper 4 Minutes FT Justin Timberlake is just behind it at 12, with 507,000 copies sold.

Material Girl, a Number 3 hit in 1985 thanks to one of her most iconic videos, has to settle for 16th, with over 385,000 sales.

Justify My Love, which was pretty saucy back in the day, and launched Madonna's first greatest hits album The Immaculate Collection, comes in 23rd with 275,500 sales. The Immaculate Collection is one of the biggest-selling albums of all time.

Fan-favourite Gambler, which Madonna doesn’t seem to be that fond of and can be very hard to track down, finishes 25th, with a sales tally of 270,000. Its sandwiched between two of Madonna’s hugely overlooked hits Dress You Up and Angel, which both reached Number 5 despite having no video! The power of Madonna in 1985 – if you'd have been able to bottle it, you'd have ruled the world.

Madonna’s collaboration with Britney Spears, Me Against The Music, scrapes into the Top 40 at Number 39, but if you’re a Madonna purist and want to know which Madge solo effort Me Against The Music has pushed into 41st place? Well, it’s bad news for Erotica. That lands just outside.

Madonna’s biggest selling single not to go Top 10? That honour belongs to Lucky Star – a Number 14 hit in 1984 and finishing 42nd on her countdown.

Here’s the full Top 40:
01 [01] INTO THE GROOVE 1 1985 871,300
02 [02] LIKE A VIRGIN 3 1984 826,700
03 [04] CRAZY FOR YOU 2 1985/1990 775,000
04 [03] HOLIDAY 2 1984/1985/1990 709,400
05 [05] PAPA DON'T PREACH 1 1986 645,000
06 [06] HUNG UP 1 2005 617,000
07 [07] LIKE A PRAYER 1 1989 593,300
08 [08] TRUE BLUE 1 1986 556,900
09 [09] FROZEN 1 1998 551,400
10 [10] BEAUTIFUL STRANGER 2 1999 532,500
11 [11] VOGUE 1 1990 530,000
12 [12] 4 MINUTES 1 2007 507,000
13 [13] LA ISLA BONITA 1 1987
14 [14] MUSIC 1 2000
15 [16] AMERICAN PIE 1 2000
16 [15] MATERIAL GIRL 3 1985 385,000
17 [18] DON'T CRY FOR ME ARGENTINA 3 1996
18 [17] WHO'S THAT GIRL 1 1987
19 [19] BORDERLINE 2 1986
20 [20] YOU'LL SEE 5 1995
21 [24] RAY OF LIGHT 2 1998
22 [22] LIVE TO TELL 2 1986
23 [28] JUSTIFY MY LOVE 2 1990 275,500
24 [30] DRESS YOU UP 5 1985
25 [21] GAMBLER 4 1985 270,000
26 [32] ANGEL 5 1985
27 [35] OPEN YOUR HEART 4 1986
28 [26] DEAR JESSIE 5 1989
29 [31] HANKY PANKY 2 1990
30 [36] SORRY 1 2006
31 [39] DIE ANOTHER DAY 3 2002
32 [29] CAUSING A COMMOTION 4 1987
33 [34] CHERISH 3 1989
34 [37] DON'T TELL ME 4 2000
35 [33] EXPRESS YOURSELF 5 1989
36 [38] THE POWER OF GOOD-BYE 6 1998
37 [40] GIVE IT 2 ME 7 2008
38 [23] THIS USED TO BE MY PLAYGROUND 3 1992
39 [27] ME AGAINST THE MUSIC (WITH BRITNEY SPEARS) 2 2003
40 [??] RAIN 7 1993
41 [25] EROTICA 3 1992
42 [??] LUCKY STAR 14 1984

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post 7th March 2015, 11:10 AM
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Sad to see two of my all-time favourite Madge songs (Deeper and Deeper, Human Nature) are not among her best selling singles. Also, Like a Prayer is way too low, imo.
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I've added the positions from the best sellers list given in September 2010 - some sales have clearly been revised down, like those for 'Erotica', 'Me Against the Music' and 'This Used to Be My Playground', and maybe 'Open Your Heart', 'Angel' and 'Dress You Up' have been revised upwards.

'Holiday' has been revised down too, from 795k in February 2014 to 709k.
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I didn't realise "Sorry" would be so much lower than "Hung Up"!
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I had no idea the flawless 'Crazy For You' had sold so much wub.gif
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Express yourself really wasn't a massive sellar! This still baffles me becuase of it's message, the amazing video and it's really well known . It's been performed on 4 of her tours.

Dear Jessie outsold both cherish and express yourself , massively surprised by this!
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post 7th March 2015, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(vibe @ Mar 7 2015, 01:45 PM) *
Express yourself really wasn't a massive sellar! This still baffles me becuase of it's message, the amazing video and it's really well known . It's been performed on 4 of her tours.

I thought that too! One of her most iconic yet its chart performance never reflected that.
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QUOTE(liamk97 @ Mar 7 2015, 11:13 AM) *
I've added the positions from the best sellers list given in September 2010 - some sales have clearly been revised down, like those for 'Erotica', 'Me Against the Music' and 'This Used to Be My Playground', and maybe 'Open Your Heart', 'Angel' and 'Dress You Up' have been revised upwards.

'Holiday' has been revised down too, from 795k in February 2014 to 709k.

I really have no idea what the OCC are doing with historical sales. We know they don't know them (not having access to hard data pre 1994) so why they keep revising up and down seemingly on a whim whilst announcing these as "official" sales just baffles me, 1992 was never revised until quite recently and for reasons unknown. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Gezza @ Mar 7 2015, 10:39 PM) *
1992 was never revised until quite recently and for reasons unknown. sad.gif


When did this happen? Does that mean songs from 1992 had their sales decreased or increased?
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QUOTE(Jack! @ Mar 8 2015, 07:28 PM) *
When did this happen? Does that mean songs from 1992 had their sales decreased or increased?



Here's the sales list MW gave in August 2008

1 Into The Groove 843561 1 1985
2 Like A Virgin 768129 3 1984
3 Holiday 752968 2 1984
4 Crazy For You 662481 2 1985
5 Papa Don't Preach 629386 1 1986
6 True Blue 534728 1 1986
7 Hung Up 517036 1 2005
8 Beautiful Stranger 513992 2 1999
9 Like A Prayer 513231 1 1989
10 Frozen 508296 1 1998
11 Vogue 484308 1 1990
12 La Isla Bonita 421760 1 1987
13 4 Minutes 400784 1 2005
14 Music 400531 1 2000
15 Material Girl 389999 3 1985
16 American Pie 380937 1 2000
17 Who's That Girl 376498 1 1987
18 Don't Cry For Me Argentina 338494 3 1996
19 You'll See 302432 5 1995
20 Borderline 298388 2 1984
21 Gambler 292341 4 1985
22 Live To Tell 271897 2 1986
23 Erotica 270800 3 1992
24 This Used To Be My Playground 270427 3 1992

25 Ray Of Light 262514 2 1998
26 Dear Jessie 250769 5 1989
27 Causing A Commotion 229934 4 1987
28 Justify My Love 228683 2 1990
29 Hanky Panky 205733 2 1990
30 Dress You Up 204970 5 1985
31 Angel 198650 5 1985
32 Express Yourself 194102 5 1989
33 Cherish 192891 3 1989
34 Open Your Heart 186742 4 1986
35 Don't Tell Me 179939 4 2000
36 Sorry 178963 1 2006
37 The Power Of Good-Bye / Little Star 175095 6 1998
38 Die Another Day 167863 3 2002
39 Deeper And Deeper 136854 6 1992
40 Rescue Me 134764 3 1991
41 Rain 130771 7 1993
42 Nothing Really Matters 128137 7 1999
43 Me Against The Music 126136 2 2003
44 The Look Of Love 121439 9 1987
45 Secret 117957 5 1994
46 Lucky Star 117470 14 1984
47 Take A Bow 102739 16 1994
48 Give It 2 Me 100986 7 2008
49 I'll Remember (Theme From 'With Honours') 100090 7 1994
50 Bedtime Story 97428 4 1995
51 Drowned World (Substitute For Love) 90651 10 1998
52 You Must Love Me 90428 10 1996
53 What It Feels Like For A Girl 86771 7 2001
54 Fever 86077 6 1993
55 Human Nature 80685 8 1995
56 Another Suitcase In Another Hall 75233 7 1997
57 Bad Girl 74915 10 1993
58 American Life 72260 2 2005
59 Get Together 67163 7 2006
60 Hollywood 59633 2 2003
61 Oh Father 58730 16 1996
62 One More Chance 56851 11 1996
63 Jump 52038 9 2006
64 Love Profusion 41025 11 2003

I've highlighted TUTBMP and Erotica to show they had about 270k sales back then. That would put them at around 24-25th on the up to date list but they both rank at around the 140k mark now. For what it's worth I think this list is probably more accurate than the 2008 list as the two tracks sold 154k and 119k respectively using the data at the time but either way the OCC keep shoving these lists out without cross referencing anything and calling them "official". If I have time one day I might do my own using the data I have (only up until 2004 when downloads came in) to show how it would have looked at that point using the correct data and multipliers from the time biggrin.gif
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Most streamed have been revealed:

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To celebrate the release of Madonna’s new album Rebel Heart, we at Official Charts have been giving you a week of Madgey goodness, including revealing her 40 all-time best sellers, revisiting her classic Ray Of Light album, and asking you to decide what is the ultimate Madonna song for this week’s Pop Gem.

Today, we’re revealing the superstar’s 40 most-streamed songs in the UK. And despite streaming records only going back as far as the start of 2014, it’s her classics that proving the most popular with listeners today.

Topping the chart is Like A Prayer – a track that finished seventh place in her all-time best sellers list. The song hit Number 1 on Official Singles Chart back in 1989 and became an instant classic, logging three weeks at the summit.

Coming in at Number 2 is her 1984 Nile Rodgers-produced single Like A Virgin, while its follow-up, Material Girl, is at 3.

Rounding off the Top 5 is the iconic 1990 single Vogue at 4, while the more recent 4 Minutes – which hit Number 1 in 2008 – is at Number 5, finishing above the likes of Hung Up, Into The Groove and Holiday.

See Madonna's Official Top 40 most streamed songs below:

1 LIKE A PRAYER MADONNA
2 LIKE A VIRGIN MADONNA
3 MATERIAL GIRL MADONNA
4 VOGUE MADONNA
5 4 MINUTES MADONNA FT JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE
6 HUNG UP MADONNA
7 INTO THE GROOVE MADONNA
8 LA ISLA BONITA MADONNA
9 HOLIDAY MADONNA
10 PAPA DON'T PREACH MADONNA
11 FROZEN MADONNA
12 CRAZY FOR YOU MADONNA
13 GIRL GONE WILD MADONNA
14 BITCH I'M MADONNA MADONNA FT NICKI MINAJ
15 BORDERLINE MADONNA
16 RAY OF LIGHT MADONNA
17 LIVING FOR LOVE MADONNA
18 EXPRESS YOURSELF MADONNA
19 MUSIC MADONNA
20 LUCKY STAR MADONNA
21 DIE ANOTHER DAY MADONNA
22 OPEN YOUR HEART MADONNA
23 REVOLVER MADONNA
24 GIVE ME ALL YOUR LUVIN' MADONNA/NICKI MINAJ/MIA
25 JUSTIFY MY LOVE MADONNA
26 ME AGAINST THE MUSIC BRITNEY SPEARS FT MADONNA
27 SORRY MADONNA
28 LIVE TO TELL MADONNA
29 DEVIL PRAY MADONNA
30 CELEBRATION MADONNA
31 GHOSTTOWN MADONNA
32 CHERISH MADONNA
33 BEAUTIFUL STRANGER MADONNA
34 AMERICAN PIE MADONNA
35 DON'T TELL ME MADONNA
36 TAKE A BOW MADONNA
37 UNAPOLOGETIC BITCH MADONNA
38 TRUE BLUE MADONNA
39 JUMP MADONNA
40 GIVE IT 2 ME MADONNA
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The OCC asked readers to vote for their favourite Madonna single from her career and here was the Top 10:

01 LIKE A PRAYER 1 1989
02 VOGUE 1 1990
03 FROZEN 1 1998
04 HUNG UP 1 2005
05 INTO THE GROOVE 1 1985
06 EXPRESS YOURSELF 5 1989
07 RAY OF LIGHT 2 1998
08 LIVING FOR LOVE 26 2015
09 BORDERLINE 2 1986
10 LIVE TO TELL 2 1986

Voted for 'Hung Up', of course. biggrin.gif
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Ha at Living For Love.

The other nine are all glorious though and I'm especially pleased to see Borderline and Live To Tell creep in there, they're the two that I always like more than I think I do when I hear them.
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I really like Living For Love but that would not have been even in the top 15 if it hadn't been released like 2 weeks ago. All amazing choices though. Papa Don't Preach must have been 11... unsure.gif

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QUOTE(dandystar @ Mar 13 2015, 04:56 PM) *
The other nine are all glorious though and I'm especially pleased to see Borderline and Live To Tell creep in there, they're the two that I always like more than I think I do when I hear them.

Yeah, I agree with that.

It's nice to see 'Express Yourself' and 'Ray of Light' being in the Top 10 - both are Madonna classics and their status would make you think they'd be high on a Madonna best sellers list.

On another note, Shireblogger posted this in the respective thread on Haven:

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The Top 40 list published a week ago caused me to furrow my brow. I have now concluded that the OCC have made a total dog's breakfast of this, and I think 18 of the 41 tracks have some sort of error associated with them.

There are many reference points for Madonna sales, not least Music Week's Top 50 in August 2008, and VH1's Top 20 (compiled by the OCC) from September 2010.

Here are my comments:-

#1 Into The Groove. I was surprised that sales were only 871,000. Sold about 8,000 per year from 2008 to 2010, but apparently only 2,500 per year from 2010 to 2015, which is too low for such an iconic track. I reckon the OCC missed 1986's sales in its latest update, meaning the correct total figure is about 900,000.

#3 Crazy For You. Appears to have sold 105,000 copies since Sept 2010. Implausibly high, given the relatively modest digital sales of Madonna's back catalogue. I can't see where this probable error comes from, but I reckon its total sales are around 700,000, not 775,000 as stated.

#4 Holiday. Has lost 60,000 sales since 2010, which means the total is short by about 100,000. Not coincidentally, this is roughly its sales in 1991, so maybe the OCC missed off this year ? Should be above Crazy For You on about 800,000.

#5 Papa Don't Preach. If 645,000 is correct, then this means Papa Don't Preach has not sold a single digital copy in the last 5 years. Clearly this is not the case. I think the OCC missed 1987's sales (of about 15,000) when compiling its latest update.

#16 Material Girl. Has dropped about 20,000 since 2010. I think the OCC has actually corrected an error from the 2008 and 2010 lists this time, as the latest figure of 385,000 looks about right to me.

#17 Don't Cry For Me Argentina
#18 Who's That Girl
These two tracks are the wrong way round on the list. Argentina would have had to sell around 50,000 downloads more than Who's That Girl in the last 5 years for an overtake to occur. But it only sold 2,000 downloads between 2008 and 2010, so this seems a ridiculous proposition. Unless the 2010 figure for Argentina was wrong.

#20 You'll See. The only record in the Top 40 to be affected by the downgrading of 1994/95/96 sales compared to those published at the time. The OCC has, at least, been consistent on this point on its 2008, 2010 and 2015 lists.

#24 Dress You Up. To get to more than 270,000 (the figure given for "The Gambler") it must have picked up at least 60,000 digital sales in the last 5 years, compared to just 5,000 in the previous two. For a relatively less popular, old track which is on Madonna's compilation albums, this is highly unlikely.

#25 The Gambler. Has lost sales since 2008 and 2010, if it is only on 270,000 now. The explanation is almost certainly the OCC missing 1986 sales in the latest update.

#27 Open Your Heart. I think the 2008, 2010 and 2015 lists have all missed 1987's sales. Should be above Angel and Dress You Up.

#28 Dear Jessie. Way too low - should be about #24 on the list. 1990's sales missed ?

#32 Causing A Commotion. Given it is now below "Die Another Day", which hasn't yet been certified silver, this means over 30,000 sales have been lost since 2010. May be 1988's sales which have been missed.

#33 Cherish. Has also lost sales since 2010. Lost sales are approximately the same as 1990's sales, so, yet again, the OCC has overlooked the fact that records on the chart on 31st December continue to sell in the following year.

#35 Express Yourself. Also lower sales than 2010. Again, probably 1990's sales that have been missed.

#38 This Used To Be My Playground. Down by about 100,000 on 2010, but the 2008 and 2010 numbers were clearly too high by about 100,000. Thus, just like Material Girl, this is a case of the OCC correcting (whether accidentally or deliberately) a previous error.

#39 Me Against The Music. Down by 100,000 on 2010, but up by 20,000 on 2008. 2008 and 2015 positions & sales are correct, and 2010 was wrong.

#41 Erotica. Has dropped from #25 on the 2010 list to #41 in 2015. Once again, corrects errors from 2008 and 2010. But this time, I think it introduces a new one, with 1993 sales missed. I reckon Erotica should be #39 on the list.


I'd be thrilled if anybody from the OCC were to comment on my observations. I'd willingly check any OCC lists like this prior to publication, without seeking any sort of payment. Just send me a PM, and I'll get in touch. This is a serious offer.

To anyone else reading this, please feel free to e-mail the OCC with these comments, or post them on other forums. But if you do, I'd be grateful if you copied and pasted anybody else's replies here. If any of my comments above are wrong, I'd like to know, because my only interest is to determine the correct picture. I don't mind being told I'm wrong, and I assume that not everything I've written above is right.
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