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Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 3rd July 2016, 07:45 PM

Posted by: Iz~ 3rd July 2016, 07:47 PM

FIRST TO CONFIRM

bring it on, chart reeval *.*

Posted by: Oricon 3rd July 2016, 07:49 PM

GGGEEEEEEEEEEEfirmed

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 3rd July 2016, 07:49 PM

Second, actually I confirmed first, Chart Reeval! Needed to get in there fast with this #barnbop I have planned!

Posted by: Iz~ 3rd July 2016, 07:50 PM

QUOTE(#BJSCSLAYERRRRRR @ Jul 3 2016, 08:49 PM)

Second, actually I confirmed first, Chart Reeval! Needed to get in there fast with this #barnbop I have planned!

Posted by: JosephStyles 3rd July 2016, 07:51 PM

Confirmed! Ended up having a last minute change of heart and have sent something different to what I originally planned. Hopefully this will be less of a fall from the top 10 than that would've been

Posted by: princess_lotti 3rd July 2016, 07:52 PM

The hotel wifi refuses to let me confirm via my phone

Pray4pupok

Posted by: *Tim 3rd July 2016, 07:52 PM

Confirmé

Posted by: princess_lotti 3rd July 2016, 07:54 PM

If any of u bitches steal my entry before I find a way around this imma send the haschak sisters after u

((Can I PM my entry for someone 2 add to the spreadsheet))

Posted by: Cody Collins 3rd July 2016, 07:56 PM

Confirmed my Latina bop, sorry Lindsey

Posted by: Regina 3rd July 2016, 07:56 PM

QUOTE(#BJSCSLAYERRRRRR @ Jul 3 2016, 08:45 PM)

Posted by: Cody Collins 3rd July 2016, 07:57 PM

I believe Vulkyria is also banned this month?

Posted by: princess_lotti 3rd July 2016, 07:59 PM

Have I confirmed??????

I PAID £3 FOR THIS WIFI TRAVELLODGE

Posted by: Oliver 3rd July 2016, 08:00 PM

Confirmed but likely to change. Just wanted to get on that list.

Posted by: HausofKubrick 3rd July 2016, 08:01 PM

CONFIRMED a banger ~

Posted by: Mart!n 3rd July 2016, 08:03 PM

Confirmed

Posted by: Bré 3rd July 2016, 08:03 PM

Confirmeded. #foreignbloc

I don't have a decent mp3 yet but expecting my song to be on iTunes fairly soon so hopefully might have one before confirmations end. x

Posted by: BASTILLEmdh 3rd July 2016, 08:04 PM

Posted by: Jade 3rd July 2016, 08:05 PM

Confirmed!! This entry is probably the least confident i've ever felt about qualifying with but imma unleash it on all of you anyway. *.* #foreignbloc

On holiday during the whole semi final voting window (as i leave at like 5am next Sunday ) but will make sure i vote at some point.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 3rd July 2016, 08:05 PM

Confirmed!!

Posted by: HarryEzra 3rd July 2016, 08:07 PM

Confirmed a k-pop bop *.*

Posted by: Cody Collins 3rd July 2016, 08:08 PM

Did all of the BJSC 74 squad just join the #ForeignBloc?

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 3rd July 2016, 08:11 PM

First greek Winner Impakt!!

:Gianteyes:

QUOTE(princess_lotti @ Jul 3 2016, 08:52 PM)

Posted by: HarryEzra 3rd July 2016, 08:14 PM

QUOTE(Cody Collins @ Jul 3 2016, 09:08 PM)

Posted by: memebury. 3rd July 2016, 08:14 PM

QUOTE(BASTILLEmdh @ Jul 3 2016, 09:04 PM)

Posted by: LexC 3rd July 2016, 08:17 PM

Confirmed innit.

Posted by: danG 3rd July 2016, 08:18 PM

Danaelanda have confirmed!!

We're going downtempo this month, I think it's the lowest BPM for a Danaelanda entry ever.

But don't worry dancebloc because it still falls under the EDM umbrella.

Posted by: Cameron 3rd July 2016, 08:25 PM

Confirmed! I hope no one else has the same song. Going for a Portuguese dance pop banger

(I will also be on holiday the week of final voting so might need to use the holiday rule thing if that is ok?)

Posted by: ℒ𝓲𝓷⻤ 3rd July 2016, 08:27 PM

confirmed

Posted by: Ethan 3rd July 2016, 08:28 PM

confirmed~

Posted by: burbe 3rd July 2016, 08:29 PM

Confirmed!!

Posted by: Mack 3rd July 2016, 08:32 PM

Confirmed!, Correctly this time after my cock-up last time.

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 3rd July 2016, 08:42 PM

QUOTE(Mack @ Jul 3 2016, 09:32 PM)

Posted by: Ryan. 3rd July 2016, 08:49 PM

QUOTE(Cameron @ Jul 3 2016, 09:25 PM)

Confirmed! I hope no one else has the same song. Going for a Portuguese dance pop banger

(I will also be on holiday the week of final voting so might need to use the holiday rule thing if that is ok?)

Posted by: Cameron 3rd July 2016, 08:54 PM

QUOTE(Ryan. @ Jul 3 2016, 09:49 PM)

This should be fine, make sure you let us and Michael know for sure once you definitely know whether you will be using it. As explained http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=158426, the procedure for missing the final is that when you submit your semi-final votes, or at a later date prior to the final opening, you also submit a full ranking of all 60~ songs. Michael will then determine your final votes by selecting the 15 highest qualifiers from your ranking.

Posted by: Harve 3rd July 2016, 09:12 PM

No chance of my entry getting vetoed this time yay.

Posted by: RobS 3rd July 2016, 09:14 PM

Confirmed a song I first looked at for my debut entry

Posted by: Klumzee 3rd July 2016, 09:28 PM

you gonna regret giving me a chance to recalibrate. coming to snatch all your weaves in 87!!!!

Posted by: Chez Wombat 3rd July 2016, 10:01 PM

I thought I'd decided my entry, but I'm now stuck between three songs which are all almost equally as wonderful I don't normally ask, but would anyone be willing to lend an ear?

Posted by: lewistgreen 3rd July 2016, 10:07 PM

Confirmed with something nice and chilled.

Posted by: Cody Collins 3rd July 2016, 10:12 PM

Chez I would like to help!

Posted by: Addy K!ng 4th July 2016, 04:24 AM

I've confirmed my Brazilian bop...I hope Cody didn't sent the same thing!!

Posted by: JSG 4th July 2016, 04:39 AM

Confirmed

Posted by: Cody Collins 4th July 2016, 04:58 AM

QUOTE(Addy K!ng @ Jul 3 2016, 09:24 PM)

Posted by: Addy K!ng 4th July 2016, 05:07 AM

QUOTE(Cody Collins @ Jul 4 2016, 06:58 AM)

Different country, so you're good

(I hope it's Anitta ~)

Posted by: Bradders 4th July 2016, 06:10 AM

Confirmed Hungarian 'progressive house'* instrumental.

*Google's words - not mine.

Posted by: Mattias 4th July 2016, 07:36 AM

I'm having slight second thoughts See this is what happens when I overlisten to my potentials in a short space of time!!1

No specific ideas as to what to confirm instead of the song I had in mind, but I just want to send something I can get fully behind. I'll probably end up going with this song anyway In that case, Lindsey you better be in my semi (Iz also).

Posted by: David 4th July 2016, 07:55 AM

Founder country Bhangra are coming back for the first time since 2010. WATCH OUT GUYS.

Also I've just submitted the Google form - I presume if someone has already selected my song for this contest then I'll be notified in DUE COURSE? Did a quick search of the forum and don't think it's been sent in the last few contests.

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 4th July 2016, 08:00 AM

OMG at all these comebacks!!

Looking forward to hearing what a founder member has after a 6 year break!

Yes that is reet tbh. If there are any double confirmations/ vetoes etc we'll notify people.

Posted by: Bré 4th July 2016, 08:16 AM

Welcome back Bhangra! Last spotted when my country was still called Egabbac Interested to see what you have as a comeback entry after so many years.

(RIP Tartford's record for most contests missed before a return x)

Posted by: Silas 4th July 2016, 08:42 AM

QUOTE(David @ Jul 4 2016, 08:55 AM)

Posted by: Bré 4th July 2016, 01:33 PM

QUOTE(#BJSCSLAYERRRRRR @ Jul 3 2016, 08:45 PM)

Posted by: Chez Wombat 4th July 2016, 01:34 PM

Have now decided on an entry. I switched from my initial choice to one that is pretty much equally as good and probably the least niche entry I've gone for so far this year, get your barriers ready~

Posted by: Mattias 4th July 2016, 02:15 PM

Confirmed (a little reluctantly mind you... I might end up changing it for the second contest in a row).

Posted by: *Callum™ 4th July 2016, 02:30 PM

Sent what I hope will be a $ma$h! A little tropical-house / pop BOP

Posted by: David 4th July 2016, 04:23 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jul 4 2016, 09:16 AM)

Welcome back Bhangra! Last spotted when my country was still called Egabbac Interested to see what you have as a comeback entry after so many years.

(RIP Tartford's record for most contests missed before a return x)

QUOTE(Silas @ Jul 4 2016, 09:42 AM)

Posted by: 152chris 4th July 2016, 04:29 PM

already????

Posted by: 152chris 4th July 2016, 04:32 PM

yelp

Posted by: Silas 4th July 2016, 05:10 PM

Ashton has confirmed

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 4th July 2016, 05:56 PM

Vetoes incoming!!

Posted by: Cody Collins 4th July 2016, 06:07 PM

Well you can't just leave it THERE

Posted by: David 4th July 2016, 06:14 PM

Just edited my form to put a download link in. Hope that's worked - not used this GOOGLE FORMS before.

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 4th July 2016, 06:16 PM

Cheap Hoe Entry #1¨:

Autoveto.

Seeb - Breathe ft. Neev 38

Global smash as the remixer of Mike Posner's I Took A Pill In Ibiza (therefore artist has charted in various countries in past 24 months) - 7
Currently in UK top 40 for the same reason - 12
Breathe has charted top 10 in Norway and top 30 in Sweden - 12
Featured on Scandipop and a few minor blogs - 7

Posted by: danG 4th July 2016, 06:18 PM

That's the second time that song's been vetoed

Though it would be understandable if it was David who tried to enter it.

Posted by: Cody Collins 4th July 2016, 06:19 PM

QUOTE(danG @ Jul 4 2016, 11:18 AM)

That's the second time that song's been vetoed

Though it would be understandable if it was David who tried to enter it.

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 4th July 2016, 06:19 PM

And the second entry:

Autoveto.

Sweet - The Ballroom Blitz 25
The song has charted in the UK Top20. [#02 in the UK Singles Chart in 1973] - 25

(Personally, I assume they are both from Sket Cameron! Aim your pitchforks low, ladies!)

For the two affected, you can re-confirm by editing your Google Form

Posted by: David 4th July 2016, 06:19 PM

QUOTE(danG @ Jul 4 2016, 07:18 PM)

That's the second time that song's been vetoed

Though it would be understandable if it was David who tried to enter it.

Posted by: Liаm 4th July 2016, 06:20 PM

QUOTE(David @ Jul 4 2016, 07:19 PM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 4th July 2016, 06:20 PM

The "Read Me, Alice!" link in the first post

Posted by: David 4th July 2016, 06:24 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Jul 4 2016, 07:20 PM)

Posted by: Bradders 4th July 2016, 06:27 PM

As someone who's been on BJ for over 10 years (and used to lurk BJSC until joining for 85) - what was the big long break for David?! If you don't mind me asking!

Posted by: Silas 4th July 2016, 06:35 PM

QUOTE(David @ Jul 4 2016, 07:24 PM)

Posted by: *Tim 4th July 2016, 06:35 PM

U lurked for 10 years?

Posted by: Liаm 4th July 2016, 06:35 PM

QUOTE(David @ Jul 4 2016, 07:24 PM)

Posted by: Silas 4th July 2016, 06:37 PM

Including me. I wrote it and still get caught out by it.

(The Sweet was me)

Posted by: Bradders 4th July 2016, 06:37 PM

Haha!!! No! Good god no! Like the odd contest I just looked at to find some new music.

Posted by: David 4th July 2016, 06:41 PM

QUOTE(Bradders @ Jul 4 2016, 07:27 PM)

QUOTE(Silas @ Jul 4 2016, 07:35 PM)

Yeaaaaah, you missed a fair bit in your break! It boils down to: if it wouldn't look out of place in BJSC XIV then it's probably a goner.

Posted by: ℒ𝓲𝓷⻤ 4th July 2016, 06:41 PM

QUOTE(Mattias @ Jul 4 2016, 03:15 PM)

Posted by: Silas 4th July 2016, 06:48 PM

QUOTE(David @ Jul 4 2016, 07:41 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 4th July 2016, 06:48 PM

Sometimes I just don't think as well, I've had vetoes where I've looked at the framework and properly worked it out and thought I was fine and ended up with 20+

Posted by: Cody Collins 4th July 2016, 07:10 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Jul 4 2016, 11:48 AM)

Sometimes I just don't think as well, I've had vetoes where I've looked at the framework and properly worked it out and thought I was fine and ended up with 20+

Posted by: ℒ𝓲𝓷⻤ 4th July 2016, 07:18 PM

I was similar with Zella Day, I didnt realise how much blog coverage she had etc and that was ultimately what vetoed her iirc, I didn't even realise how much points blogs and stuff got as I didn't think they added much weight since its not the first place I'd look for entries etc

Posted by: Silas 4th July 2016, 07:21 PM

Ya but y'all didn't write the framework which makes them understandable lol

Posted by: Oliver 4th July 2016, 07:33 PM

Oh, Ashton would have got their first ever 18 from Cadelicia if that wasn't vetoed.

One of my favourite glam rock songs of all time.

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 4th July 2016, 08:01 PM

We're doing ok with double entries too btw - so far so good, don't need to PM anyone!

Posted by: Mattias 4th July 2016, 08:22 PM

QUOTE(ℒ𝓲𝓷⻤ @ Jul 4 2016, 07:41 PM)

Posted by: David 4th July 2016, 08:37 PM

Bhangra has RE-SUBMITTED. Prepared to do a Cersei walk of shame if I'm vetoed again. Bells at the ready!

Posted by: dandy* 4th July 2016, 08:41 PM

I have a feeling I may have just submitted an auto-veto - apologies!

Is it an automatic 25 points if I've entered a cover of a top 5 song from 2000?

Posted by: Mart!n 4th July 2016, 08:49 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Jul 4 2016, 09:41 PM)

Posted by: gooddelta 4th July 2016, 08:49 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Jul 4 2016, 09:41 PM)

Posted by: dandy* 4th July 2016, 08:50 PM

In which case it should be allowed to remain due to intrigue!

Posted by: gooddelta 4th July 2016, 08:52 PM

I mean Cascada have just released a cover of Shackles (Praise You) but it doesn't sound particularly FLJ...!

Posted by: dandy* 4th July 2016, 08:52 PM

Yagotme.

Posted by: dandy* 4th July 2016, 08:57 PM

I think arguably, since the rules were written last year, the boundary for 25 points should also be moved one year to 2001.

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 4th July 2016, 09:01 PM

QUOTE(David @ Jul 4 2016, 09:37 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 4th July 2016, 09:54 PM

Confirmed, not 100% on it but I'm thinking of saving my slightly preferable entry for next month so I'm not Italian twice in a row So I'll probably not change unless I find something I prefer more.

Posted by: Jacob Alan 4th July 2016, 10:07 PM

QUOTE(Mattias @ Jul 4 2016, 09:22 PM)

I'll try not to Glad it has a fan already!

Posted by: Mattias 4th July 2016, 10:13 PM

QUOTE(Jacob Alan @ Jul 4 2016, 11:07 PM)

Posted by: ℒ𝓲𝓷⻤ 4th July 2016, 10:23 PM

QUOTE(Jacob Alan @ Jul 4 2016, 11:07 PM)

Posted by: Iz~ 4th July 2016, 10:26 PM

I am seeing a little something on the spreadsheet which I had as a risky idea but thought would never show up independent of me. So if it's that, I approve (well, I approve whoever sent it).

Posted by: ℒ𝓲𝓷⻤ 5th July 2016, 09:07 AM

I just had a thought, obviously I don't know exactly how the mods do their research into each entry to see whether it's veto worthy or not but if it's a case of working through the list, could the songs that have been checked off not be posted in the thread as being 'okay for now'? Of course the whole 'nobody's safe until the semis are up' thing would still stand but it would add a little peace of mind to people who are worried they might get vetoed?

This probably isn't a good idea as I imagine it's something thats been considered before

Posted by: Oricon 5th July 2016, 09:19 AM

As the whole "no one is safe until the semi starts" thing is in place, we won't put a list as to what songs are considered 'safe' in public until the actual semi-finals start purely for the reason that we have vetoed songs which at first didn't trigger any discussion, but as the week progresses it's hype and coverage skyrocketed. It wouldn't be fair to give people a false hope during this process as it certainly would be frustrating to see your song being listed as safe, and then the next minute we announce our vetos and your song is included in the batch.

Posted by: J▲hq 5th July 2016, 09:27 AM

I don't think the songs would be posted as 'safe for now' because the songs are meant to be revealed in one go when the semi thread opens and we want to keep the playing field as level as possible And the mods would be unable to post which countries are 'safe' as we don't know who is behind what.


(Also with another veto being confirmed, word of advice, something that was in the final of Melodifestivalen is never going to get through with the amount of people that follow it on here )

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 5th July 2016, 09:38 AM

Cheap Hoe Veto #3:


Lisa Ajax - My Heart Wants Me Dead 34

Melodifestivalen finalist 2016 (thus substantial radio, internet, TV, or print media exposure) - 12
Featured on Scandipop, Josepvinaixa and several minor blogs and Eurovision websites - 7
Artist finished 41st in BJSC 79 - 3
Song charted at #10 in Sweden - 12

Posted by: Math ☂ 5th July 2016, 10:01 AM

I have a song but it looks like it'll rack up 21 veto points despite the song itself being pretty irrelevant. Afraid to confirm it!

Posted by: ℒ𝓲𝓷⻤ 5th July 2016, 10:01 AM

Ah I forgot you couldn't see the country names with the new Google forms system That's all understandable though, I knew there'd probably be a good reason as to why it's not done that way

Posted by: Math ☂ 5th July 2016, 10:04 AM

confirmed it anyways, praying it makes it through as it's my favorite song of the year thus far!

Posted by: #00274E 5th July 2016, 10:35 AM

someone please listen to my potentials thanks x

Posted by: 152chris 5th July 2016, 11:29 AM

im torn between two french ditties if anyone wants to help a foreign language bud out

Posted by: *Tim 5th July 2016, 11:32 AM

If y'all trust me enough, I will listen to potentials

Posted by: Cameron 5th July 2016, 11:43 AM

same

Posted by: 152chris 5th July 2016, 12:01 PM

who trusts tim tho

Posted by: #00274E 5th July 2016, 12:08 PM

danka

Posted by: Cucumberella 5th July 2016, 12:23 PM

send all my vvay, those who ive not replied to i wil lget to when i get access to a laptop

Posted by: *Tim 5th July 2016, 12:36 PM

QUOTE(152chris @ Jul 5 2016, 12:01 PM)

Posted by: Bré 5th July 2016, 12:51 PM

Send to me pls 152wild x

Posted by: Liаm 5th July 2016, 07:13 PM

Re-confirmed another Italian bop, crazier than Annalisa to fit with Beaverdonia hosting x

A bit fickle but I'm already kinda tiring of my initial confirmation which is never a good sign.

Posted by: Bré 5th July 2016, 07:17 PM

Editing in a better mp3 link for my song now as it's just gone up on iTunes. Woo.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 5th July 2016, 10:13 PM

Re-confirmed!

Going for something which is pretty similar to Wolf by Sumera which Cami Li sent!

Posted by: #00274E 6th July 2016, 10:25 AM

thanks for the help so far guys

tho u all have different favs. yelp

Posted by: *Tim 6th July 2016, 10:33 AM

Listen to Tim

Posted by: Cameron 6th July 2016, 02:31 PM

QUOTE(Ultraviolence1989 @ Jul 5 2016, 11:13 PM)

Posted by: notfurlong 6th July 2016, 05:33 PM

confirmed something I fully expect to be vetoed but worth a try cause it SLAYS

Posted by: LexC 6th July 2016, 05:59 PM

PLOT TWIST: Now can't decide between two different German chart pop dittys. The Kraut force is strong in this one!

Posted by: BASTILLEmdh 6th July 2016, 06:14 PM

QUOTE(LexC @ Jul 6 2016, 06:59 PM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 6th July 2016, 07:05 PM

Cheap Hoe Entry #4:

Dagny feat. Børns - Fool's Gold 32

Featured on Popjustice, Scandipop, Josepvinaixa, Line of Best Fit and several minor blogs - 7 + 3
Dagny finished 33rd in BJSC 79 - 3
Børns finished 5th in BJSC 73 - 12
Børns' album charted at #24 in the US last year - 7

Posted by: French Roba 6th July 2016, 08:36 PM

I've reconfirmed just came across something that I really love more than the other song hope it isn't vetoed though

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 6th July 2016, 08:38 PM

I nearly sent that but thought it would maybe get vetoed!

Posted by: Mattias 7th July 2016, 10:03 AM

QUOTE(notfurlong @ Jul 6 2016, 06:33 PM)

Posted by: Silas 7th July 2016, 10:14 AM

^I think we just vetoed it.


Ashton has reconfirmed.

Posted by: #00274E 7th July 2016, 01:03 PM

i can't work the form?

when I copy and paste the link nothin happens

false alarm I'm in

Posted by: Cameron 7th July 2016, 01:06 PM

QUOTE(#00274E @ Jul 7 2016, 02:03 PM)

Posted by: #00274E 7th July 2016, 01:08 PM

buzzjack grandad ere don't mind me

Posted by: #00274E 7th July 2016, 02:17 PM

confirmed. last min find and none of the potentials I sent to ppl. my and my holy Q streak hope I made the right decision!

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 7th July 2016, 04:26 PM

Pray for the qualification streak!!!

Posted by: Cody Collins 7th July 2016, 05:11 PM

I'm praying to actually have a qualification streak this time.

Posted by: BASTILLEmdh 7th July 2016, 05:13 PM

You will

Posted by: #00274E 7th July 2016, 05:54 PM

i just need to stop missing out contests so that my steak actually means something sad face

Posted by: Robot 7th July 2016, 06:16 PM

Jake, send me your leftovers please, I have nothing and you're a trusty source of success. Thanks <3

Posted by: #00274E 7th July 2016, 06:29 PM

kk

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 7th July 2016, 06:59 PM

55 confirmed nations vying for the Iron Throne so far

Theme of BJSC86:

Posted by: Cody Collins 7th July 2016, 07:14 PM

HELL YES MICHAEL

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 7th July 2016, 07:47 PM

People should open their windows when doing their entries, let all the skank out!

2 more vetoes

Posted by: memebury. 7th July 2016, 07:49 PM

People thinking Michael won't notice the cheap entries, whoopsies

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 7th July 2016, 07:49 PM

Cheap Hoe Entries #5 and #6

Willy William - Ego 19

Featured on a few minor blogs and several European radio station websites
105 million (!) YouTube views indicating substantial internet exposure - 12
Song charted top 10 in Netherlands, top 20 in France and Belgium, top 40 in Germany within the past few months - 7
Artist has had further French top 40 hits

All Kings & Queens - VOODOO 12

Featured on Idolator, Clash and several minor blogs
This is Gabriella Cilmi with her brother on production duties
Gabriella as a solo artist finished 7th in BJSC 8, 8th in BJSC 11 and DNQ in BJSC 17 - 12

Posted by: Dobbo 7th July 2016, 07:52 PM

Ego is a tune but not surprised at that veto.

Posted by: princess_lotti 7th July 2016, 07:53 PM

OMG poor ego

Have never heard of the second

Posted by: Jade 7th July 2016, 07:53 PM

BJSC providing Gabriella with the most relevance she's had in ages lately *.*

Posted by: princess_lotti 7th July 2016, 07:55 PM

Oh wait does Gabriella actually sing on that song??? I misread the reason if so

Posted by: Math ☂ 7th July 2016, 07:59 PM

It looks like mine evaded the veto, pleasantly surprised considering it racked up a fair bit of points

Posted by: *Tim 7th July 2016, 08:04 PM

Bye

Posted by: JSG 7th July 2016, 08:16 PM

Just reconfirmed my original entry.

Posted by: *Tim 7th July 2016, 08:20 PM

Substantial internet coverage tho.

Posted by: *Tim 7th July 2016, 08:27 PM

Well off to send my entry for next month and gather that win I wanted in August xxx

Posted by: Regina 7th July 2016, 08:36 PM

Reconfirmed thanks to my #rotti companion.

Posted by: Oliver 7th July 2016, 08:43 PM

Pushing my luck and changing my entry to something risky I heard about an hour ago that I'm now obsessed with. If it's vetoed/already confirmed I'll just go back to my original.

EDIT

Very risky!

Really want to send it so gonna wait and find out if it'll be vetoed rather than change back straight away.

Posted by: Addy K!ng 7th July 2016, 09:45 PM

I actually sent Ego BJSC80 and then changed it too Raving George lol

Posted by: JosephStyles 8th July 2016, 10:53 AM

I just changed my entry, a new song has popped up and was love at first listen, can't turn it off right now. EXCITED

Posted by: *Tim 8th July 2016, 11:59 AM

Reconfirmed my winner

Posted by: Jerick 9th July 2016, 08:28 AM

Tinnmark confirmed last night!

Posted by: mdna. 9th July 2016, 09:01 AM

I bet someone confirmed Freischwimmer

Posted by: FrankLuck 9th July 2016, 09:06 AM

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 9 2016, 11:01 AM)

Posted by: popchartfreak 9th July 2016, 09:31 AM

will confirm later. Just deciding whether to enter the next winner or opt for an oldie

Posted by: memebury. 9th July 2016, 09:37 AM

QUOTE(FrankLuck @ Jul 9 2016, 10:06 AM)

Do they have any original stuff? 'Ain't No Mountain High Enough' would be an autoveto for sure.

Confirmed, btw

Posted by: mdna. 9th July 2016, 09:42 AM

Nah their new track California Dreamin' is a kind of a hit for the taking in my eyes and a bit like This Girl, it's one of those songs that people would confirm before it crosses over.

Posted by: gooddelta 9th July 2016, 09:49 AM

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 9 2016, 10:42 AM)

Posted by: Bradders 9th July 2016, 01:17 PM

We still at 55??

Posted by: JSG 9th July 2016, 02:48 PM

Just reconfirmed again x

Posted by: mdna. 9th July 2016, 04:36 PM

hopefully! I don't want to auto-qualify

Posted by: Silas 9th July 2016, 05:00 PM

I will happily take your AQ spot

Posted by: *Tim 9th July 2016, 05:00 PM

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 9 2016, 04:36 PM)

Posted by: mdna. 9th July 2016, 05:08 PM

QUOTE(Silas @ Jul 9 2016, 06:00 PM)

Posted by: mdna. 9th July 2016, 05:09 PM

Reconfirmed completely out of the blue. This is risky.

Posted by: mdna. 9th July 2016, 05:13 PM

oh and PRETTY SURE it's a double confirmation

Posted by: Bré 9th July 2016, 05:14 PM

What's the point of confirming it if you know it's a double confirmation :eyes:

Posted by: mdna. 9th July 2016, 05:16 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jul 9 2016, 06:14 PM)

Posted by: Ryan. 9th July 2016, 06:12 PM

The number of changed entries in this contest is unprecedented, we've approached the 20 mark! Y'all so indecisive

Posted by: mdna. 9th July 2016, 06:58 PM

so I take it it isn't a double confirmation or anything judging by the fact nobody's mentioned it?

Posted by: Ryan. 9th July 2016, 06:59 PM

No there's no double confirmations on the spreadsheet as far as I can see!

Posted by: mdna. 9th July 2016, 06:59 PM

THANK THE LORD. funky dance bop coming to slay the competition

Posted by: memebury. 9th July 2016, 07:03 PM

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 9 2016, 07:59 PM)

THANK THE LORD. funky dance bop coming to slay the competition

Posted by: mdna. 9th July 2016, 07:48 PM

QUOTE(memebury. @ Jul 9 2016, 08:03 PM)

Maybe you should've waited for BJSC 88 for maximum slayage

Posted by: Freeze 9th July 2016, 10:43 PM

I have confirmed! I could not find that much information about the artists I have confirmed, but they do have a lot of views on youtube. They might have already been taken for that reason. I'm not sure, but they don't seem too well known elsewhere on the internet (including Buzzjack), which is a bit weird given the high amount of views they have. I just hope I don't get vetoed again, that's all And I really like this entry as well

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 9th July 2016, 11:05 PM

Close the door. Clodor.

Confirmations closed!

Posted by: Cody Collins 9th July 2016, 11:25 PM

So we actually have less than 60 for the first time? Sad times

Posted by: Oricon 9th July 2016, 11:26 PM

Less than 60? Oh dear lord less chances for me to get into the final then!

Posted by: Ryan. 9th July 2016, 11:27 PM

No there's 61 entrants don't worry!

Posted by: Silas 9th July 2016, 11:56 PM

QUOTE(Cody Collins @ Jul 10 2016, 12:25 AM)

Posted by: David 10th July 2016, 12:04 AM

QUOTE(Silas @ Jul 10 2016, 12:56 AM)

The 4th contest had 20 which is our record low.

Being over 60 is still a fairly new thing in the grand scheme of BJSC

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 12:14 AM

Rich won that one with Sara Barellies 'Love Song' but you hosted it! (have won with Dixie Chicks the month before)

Posted by: Riser 10th July 2016, 05:49 AM

I forgot the deadline was tonight, thought it was Sunday! Should've tried to confirm on my phone but I think it was already closed by the time I realized. Oops. I hate missing out with Beaverdonia hosting!

This means Desbuanda haven't entered either since I also forgot to remind Noah Glad you managed 61 entries though or I'd really feel bad.

Posted by: Cameron 10th July 2016, 06:42 AM

#LetHarmonicaIn

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 07:14 AM

#LetHarmonicaIn2.0

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 08:00 AM

Wait did I aq or nah

Posted by: danG 10th July 2016, 08:22 AM

seeing as there's 61 entries, there will be 30 in each semi and only Beaverdonia will autoqualify. So nah.

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 08:36 AM

good

Posted by: danG 10th July 2016, 08:46 AM

why don't you want to autoqualify then?

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 08:52 AM

i've always had this idea that if you qualify through the semi you'll get more attention because people listen to your song in voting listenthroughs instead of just in the final so it's basically me being greedy and a listenwhore

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 08:54 AM

That's mainly because people take more of a risk when they AQ and do less well, making it seem like they get less attention because they AQed. I AQ'ed and came 2nd, so it's not as if your chances are any less

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 09:04 AM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 09:54 AM)

Posted by: Qween 10th July 2016, 09:45 AM

I reconfirmed at the last minute with a HOT SLICE of Altyr past. Coming for that 4th top 20 of the year *.*

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 10:37 AM

Vetoes incoming! And it's a douzy of a bumperpack!

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 10:37 AM

Cheap Hoe Entries #6 and 7

Phantogram - You Don't Get Me High Anymore 28

Charted in 2015 at #38 on the US album charts as part of the supergroup Big Grams - 7
Previously sent in BJSC 61 [DNQ'ed] and BJSC 88 [13th] - 7 + 7
Featured on Pitchfork - 7
No need to research this more but there will be more points...

Ólafur Arnalds feat. Arnór Dan - Say My Name 24+

Featured on several minor blogs
Ólafur Arnalds finished 7th in BJSC 22 and 4th in BJSC 54 12
Arnór Dan also finished 4th in BJSC 54 12
Both of them charted at #54 in France outside of the 24 month window
This is a substantially differently produced cover of Destiny Child's 'Say My Name', a worldwide hit in 2000 and a song is originally by an artist with a significant Buzzjack following, potential for an extra 12

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 10:38 AM

omg the pupok relevancy *.*

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 10:39 AM

That's not all!!

More skanks who forgot to let the stank out when entering, 8 and 9:

Bob Sinclar - Someone Who Needs Me 19

Featured on Spinnin Records, Josepvinaixa, Ministry of Sound and many other blogs - borderline high blogs but not quite
This song has charted top 60 in Belgium and France this year - 7
The artist has had lots of European hits over the past 20 years
Playlisted on Capital FM
Samples the well-known chorus of Stevie Wonder's 'For Once In My Life' which was US/UK top 5 hit in 1960s indicating substantial exposure - 12

Julie Bergan - Arigato 22

Hit #02 in Norway - 12
Artist came 30th in BJSC 80 - 3
Featured on Scandipop - 7
Featured on a Popjustice Spotify playlist in their New Music Fridays article - potential for another 3

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 10:39 AM

Thank GOD I didn't get vetoed

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 10:39 AM

oops I got vetoed

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 10:40 AM

wait so what do I do? am I allowed to reconfirm or is it too late?

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 10:40 AM

oh my god !!!

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 10:40 AM

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 10 2016, 11:39 AM)

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 10 2016, 11:39 AM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 10:41 AM

Flashing ha drawers and kegs at all passers-by, cheap hoe #10 for a perfect baker's dozen:

Mabel - Thinking Of You 15

Featured on Line of Best Fit, Four Oh Five, Hillydilly, All Things Go, Pigeons & Planes, Idolator, Josepvinaixa, Apple Music - high blog/internet exposure - 12
Artist DNQed in BJSC 77 - 3

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 10:42 AM

Not that I disagree with Bob being vetoed but isnt 7 points for a top 60 hit a tad ridiculoud?

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 10:42 AM

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 10 2016, 11:40 AM)

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 10:43 AM

YAY. thank GOD. looks like i'll be going back to my original entry after all !!

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 10:44 AM

Omg mdh !! Poor ha :')

Mabel <3

This is brutal.

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 10:44 AM

okay reconfirmed! This is literally the messiest confirmation saga ever oh my, I've ended up with my original song after all that

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 10:46 AM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 11:42 AM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 10:47 AM

Give me a second to update the list. I was a Tardy Targaryen last night! It is still the expanded contest

Posted by: Iz~ 10th July 2016, 10:48 AM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 11:42 AM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 10:49 AM

61 entries!

Posted by: Regina 10th July 2016, 10:51 AM

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 10 2016, 11:39 AM)

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 10 2016, 11:39 AM)

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 10:52 AM

that gif *.*

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 10:52 AM

Poor Riser and Noahspike just missing out!!

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 11:00 AM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 08:54 AM)

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 11:01 AM

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 10 2016, 11:39 AM)

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 10 2016, 11:39 AM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 11:04 AM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Jul 10 2016, 12:01 PM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 11:08 AM

Another Veto Howler will be winging its way in soon!

#HarryPotterreference

Posted by: Oliver 10th July 2016, 11:10 AM

First veto in over 30 contests!

Oh well, thought with the fact that "Arigato" had been mentioned a whole massive ONE time on the entire of Buzzjack would have meant that, even with 22 veto points, it would have still been a discovery for most people.

Back to my original song.

Posted by: danG 10th July 2016, 11:11 AM

QUOTE(#BJSCSLAYERRRRRR @ Jul 10 2016, 12:04 PM)

We need the Britney as an artpiece gif to celebrate the artistry of those two classic posts!

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 11:13 AM

QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jul 10 2016, 10:48 AM)

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 11:15 AM

The framework covers the chart of that country so if the country has a top 75 then all 75 spots count as 7 points.

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 11:18 AM

Which is a bit much in my opinion, which I explained

Posted by: Regina 10th July 2016, 11:20 AM

That does seem kinda excessive that a song would get the same points for peaking at #72 as it would for #11

Posted by: Math ☂ 10th July 2016, 11:20 AM

I forgot about Big Grams Give me a couple hours to find a replacement!

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 11:24 AM

poor mdh

7 points for being top60 in Belgium and France does seem a bit steep, considering a song in the top40 of the global Spotify chart got waved through last month~
spinnin' and ministry of sound are labels not blogs ~ josepvinaixa is basically a release schedule as it seems to cover what's out not what's necessarily hot or popular~
was anyone entering this competition actually alive in the 60s? were most competitors’ parents even born then? the whole blanket red flag for an artist or song charting in the top40 pre-2000 is a ludicrous use of sledgehammer to crack a peanut of 'jolene' being entered a few years back!

Posted by: Math ☂ 10th July 2016, 11:28 AM

Really anything can be cheap these days! I only knew one of the vetos other than mine prior to the contest and before the framework change I usually knew all of them. Back to the drawing board for me, I guess!

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 11:28 AM

QUOTE(Regina @ Jul 10 2016, 11:20 AM)

That does seem kinda excessive that a song would get the same points for peaking at #72 as it would for #10

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 11:31 AM

I do find it all a bit too harsh now but I guess it's lose lose for the mods because we all used to think it was too relaxed we need a happy medium because it's getting to the point where songs that would be discoveries for literally 99% of the people are being thrown out because they're top 75 in Afghanistan or something and it's preventing a lot of good music being discovered (which is the point of the contest at the end of the day and we can't lose sight of that!)

Gosh I do not envy the mods' job ~

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 11:33 AM

QUOTE(#BJSCSLAYERRRRRR @ Jul 10 2016, 12:08 PM)

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 11:36 AM

I want to see the Harry Potter veto

Posted by: Regina 10th July 2016, 11:43 AM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Jul 10 2016, 12:31 PM)

I do find it all a bit too harsh now but I guess it's lose lose for the mods because we all used to think it was too relaxed we need a happy medium because it's getting to the point where songs that would be discoveries for literally 99% of the people are being thrown out because they're top 75 in Afghanistan or something and it's preventing a lot of good music being discovered (which is the point of the contest at the end of the day and we can't lose sight of that!)

Gosh I do not envy the mods' job ~

Posted by: J▲hq 10th July 2016, 11:49 AM

QUOTE(Ethan @ Jul 10 2016, 12:24 PM)

Posted by: Iz~ 10th July 2016, 11:54 AM

QUOTE(Ethan @ Jul 10 2016, 12:24 PM)

spinnin' and ministry of sound are labels not blogs ~ josepvinaixa is basically a release schedule as it seems to cover what's out not what's necessarily hot or popular~
was anyone entering this competition actually alive in the 60s? were most competitors’ parents even born then? the whole blanket red flag for an artist or song charting in the top40 pre-2000 is a ludicrous use of sledgehammer to crack a peanut of 'jolene' being entered a few years back!

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 12:04 PM

So now songs might get vetoed based on the label they are on?

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 12:06 PM

QUOTE(J▲hq @ Jul 10 2016, 11:49 AM)

Irrelevant in this case. The Stevie Wonder song is very recognisible, I know it and I was born in the 90s.

(And don't go forgetting popchartfreak )

Posted by: Bradders 10th July 2016, 12:10 PM

Does all this veto drama mean a potential delay in the reveal of the Semi's?

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 12:11 PM

Well since there is still one to be revealed according to Michael, it could potebtially

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 12:11 PM

QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jul 10 2016, 11:54 AM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 12:11 PM

Funny you should ask ...

Cheap Hoe Entry #11:


TP4Y - Blush 12

Artist has a significant following on Buzzjack 12

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 12:13 PM

no way was that a veto

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 12:14 PM

Excuse you? Bitch what? I know y'all had a vendetta against me but this

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 12:14 PM

I'm sorry but yall are ridiculous. I could understand Ego, but this is just on another level

Posted by: Regina 10th July 2016, 12:15 PM

omg. I've not even heard of this artist. What following?

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 12:15 PM

Where is this significant buzzjackrollowing? Is it cuz ai got mpre hype in my thread than y'all? They dont even have a thread

Posted by: J▲hq 10th July 2016, 12:16 PM

Spinnin' Records does have a site where articles are posted (including a few for Bob Sinclar) - this isn't just based on it being on some Youtube channel.

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 12:17 PM

QUOTE(J▲hq @ Jul 10 2016, 12:16 PM)

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 12:19 PM

Wait I thought Tim sent the Harry Potter theme tune and THAT was what was vetoed

This is brutal.

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 12:21 PM

i'm sorry but if that was a reason for veto, then daddy says no should've got vetoed last month

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 12:21 PM

Marina & The Diamonds have a significant buzzjack following. Little Mix do. The Sats do. TP4Y don't. They havent even been mentioned before my national thread.

Posted by: SevenSeize 10th July 2016, 12:23 PM

O deer

Well I guess some of y'all know I felt now when Anohni was unceremoniously and unjustifiably kicked out of bjsc 81 :rage:

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 12:26 PM

And this is relevant why? This is my time to rage stop making it about you for a second

Mods I see you peeping this thread

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 12:27 PM

Omg SevenSeize getting caught in the Tim rage. Poor ha

And anyway, HIGHASAKITE is the biggest injustice going.

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 12:29 PM

Stop making this about you Bal, this is my time to shine

Posted by: danG 10th July 2016, 12:31 PM

QUOTE(#BJSCSLAYERRRRRR @ Jul 10 2016, 01:11 PM)

Posted by: SevenSeize 10th July 2016, 12:31 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 01:26 PM)

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 12:32 PM

as if the dutch could be relevant

Posted by: FrankLuck 10th July 2016, 12:33 PM

WOW @ the number of vetoes, I think I knew only 1 or 2 of them, so it's time to start listening! (plug session maybe? )

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 12:33 PM

QUOTE(SevenSeize @ Jul 10 2016, 12:31 PM)

Posted by: HarryEzra 10th July 2016, 12:34 PM

Seriously tho who are they? I have never heard of them till that veto was announced

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 12:34 PM

the only people who know them... are probably the people who tim showed as potentials... which isn't a banned thing

my entry has probably been heard by more people than blush

VETO ME

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 12:37 PM

YOU GET A VETO, YOU GET A VETO, EVERYBODY GETS A VETO

Posted by: danG 10th July 2016, 12:38 PM

Hell, my entry may as well get vetoed too seeing as the artist came top ten before and the song's got over a million YouTube views.

Let's veto everything

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 12:38 PM

seriously what following does TP4Y have on buzzjack? how was this ‘following’ quantified?

Posted by: gooddelta 10th July 2016, 12:38 PM

QUOTE(FrankLuck @ Jul 10 2016, 01:33 PM)

WOW @ the number of vetoes, I think I knew only 1 or 2 of them, so it's time to start listening! (plug session maybe? )

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 12:39 PM

! @ Oprah

Let's see what Hendinia get through this time (ily rob)

Posted by: danG 10th July 2016, 12:40 PM

Well, we were never going to have a Beaverdonian-hosted contest without any veto drama

Posted by: ℒ𝓲𝓷⻤ 10th July 2016, 12:40 PM

I don't even know of that song never mind the artist, I don't understand how that's possibly a valid veto??? Are you actually kidding ? It's funny how the likes of Important and Daddy Says No gained a bit of a buzzjack fan base before the contest went up but passed were still allowed, I'm sure there's better examples than those though...

Posted by: David 10th July 2016, 12:42 PM

I thought, after reading the rules thread, that a song had to get 25 points to be excluded? That last one only got 12?! Anyway, is that it with the vetoes now? Only I've got a plane to catch and won't have time to reconfirm if I get kicked out!

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 12:43 PM

QUOTE(danG @ Jul 10 2016, 01:40 PM)

Well, we were never going to have a Beaverdonian-hosted contest without any veto drama

Posted by: danG 10th July 2016, 12:45 PM

QUOTE(David @ Jul 10 2016, 01:42 PM)

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 12:45 PM

I am going to start listening to everything that gets vetoed and adding them to my BJSC playlists. I am discovering less and less amazing music from these contests and i'm beginning to think it's because most of it gets chucked out ~

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 12:47 PM

QUOTE(J▲hq @ Jul 10 2016, 12:16 PM)

Posted by: Regina 10th July 2016, 12:50 PM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Jul 10 2016, 01:45 PM)

Posted by: Iz~ 10th July 2016, 12:51 PM

QUOTE(Ethan @ Jul 10 2016, 01:11 PM)

QUOTE(David @ Jul 10 2016, 01:42 PM)

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 12:52 PM

can a mod please explain the reasoning behind tp4y?

Posted by: Cameron 10th July 2016, 01:04 PM

So we can't hype someone's entry in their thread?..

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 01:04 PM

Sorry I'm doing this from the side of the road so it's a little brief.

This is a seriously sketchy veto and that's because it's not really a veto at all.

In the rules thread there is a section on not revealing your entry before the semis open. The punishment for breaking this is a suspension. Now this has been slated very very very closely to in our opinion by a few people for a while now and this month we felt that Tim stepped slightly over the line. Now suspending him, as per the rules, felt a little harsh however the song was most certainly not within the bounds of what we would call a level playing field. After all this is a competition that a lot of people take seriously so we try to make it as fair as we possibly can.

So instead of suspending Tim, which we didn't feel was particularly fair, we instead decided to boot the song. So really it's not been caught out by the veto but the actual rules thread.

Yes it looks like a very harsh veto, but given the other alternate we felt this was the fairest to all as it restored the level playing field and kept Tim in the contest.



Now as for the other things I skimmed through at 70, if you have any constructive feedback on changes you think should be made to the veto thread please drop them in the suggestions box. We've just rewritten the rules so a framework update is next on the list.

Hopefully some of the rest of the team will be about but if not I'll be back in 3 hours when I make it back to Manchester.

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 01:05 PM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Jul 10 2016, 12:45 PM)

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 01:09 PM

i am not the best one to explain this decision as i wasn't in full support of a name and shame or suspension (i said that we should be doing a PSA first which we will be doing) but if you guys have any questions i will try and answer them as no other mods are fully available atm

Posted by: Cameron 10th July 2016, 01:10 PM

I just hope this wasn't part of the weekly bloc vote accusations.

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:14 PM

Okay? But how exactly did I break therules? Y'all always hype ur iwn entries by hints and many people know them by that? It's been done for ages and all over sudden with me its a problem? It's downright sketchy and offensive to me.

I know there is behind the scenes beef against me by certain mods, so this decision doesnt surprise me in the slightest. Ryan, this is war

Posted by: Iz~ 10th July 2016, 01:14 PM

QUOTE(Ethan @ Jul 10 2016, 02:05 PM)

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:16 PM

Can we talk about people posting the lyrics to their songs tho, like isnt that revealing ur entry as well?

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:16 PM

I'm sorry but this is ridicukous and I hate how y'all try to take the high road by making it seem like i should be THANKFUL for not being suspended

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 01:17 PM

a load of us have ALWAYS put up hints like this including lyrics etc. it would've been nice if we couldve had a warning before someones song being removed

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:17 PM

Like I know there is a vendetta against me by certain people, but I thought they had some professionalism in them. It seems even I have more

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 01:19 PM

QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jul 10 2016, 12:51 PM)

Posted by: Oricon 10th July 2016, 01:20 PM

There is NOTHING against you Tim at all, but the mere fact that when you posted one emoticon image to your thread the amount of people who knew EXACTLY what you were sending pushed it over the edge. It wasn't like it was one or two responses only as well!

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 01:21 PM

okay but FIVE of us knew, and i can tell you for sure every one of those people know my entry from my clue and more

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 01:22 PM

surely people realise by now that the same group of us share potentials AND HAVE DONE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. if you're going t make this a reason for veto/suspension now give us warnings

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:22 PM

Bitch who are you?

So I played my song on plug and I posted a hint? So what? Many people do that. People posting lyrics to their song, what about those? There were people that knew my song cuz I played it on plug and I have had it in my bag for several months. Sam and Cody were literally begging me to send it.

Y'all messy

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 01:23 PM

i can say that this wasn't a bloc vote thing at all, it was more of an unfair advantage standpoint as songs with muchhh more exposure will tend to be more favoured on the grounds of familiarity - which is part of the reason samples are monitored, chart success etc is monitored etc - as mods we have the framework as some sort of mind reading device. do we know which song has reached the ears of all of the bjsc participants beforehand? no of course not! all of the measures are to predict audience, predict demographic and to level the playing field. of course the veto is not extensive and that is something that we're all looking to work on. my main ones are streaming guidelines (since streaming is the heart of the music industry at the moment), points allocated for previous vetoes, points allocated for artists being submitted several times and more of a sliding scale when it comes to chart points and blog coverage. however, at this very point it's a work in progress and we will update it as soon as possible.

my standpoint is there is hundreds and HUNDREDS of songs every couple of months that are sent without any issue at all - they rack up little or no points on the framework and are not questionable in the slightest. it's not about how many posts a song has been referenced on on buzzjack, the world of music extends WAY beyond this forum so we need to try and predict how people find out about music, how many would listen to it based on the audience of each of the criteria etc etc etc

the thing is no matter how rigid or relaxed the veto framework is it's a damned if you do or damned if you don't situation so really all we can do is take the feedback on board and progress things. it's not as if we don't listen to your criticisms! but at the same time just because people are unhappy with a veto doesn't make it any less unjustified, there's a silent majority in bjsc who don't speak up month on month who could also feel an entry is at a disadvantage because of all of this off-site exposure... we're not just catering to those who shout the loudest

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 01:24 PM

QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jul 10 2016, 01:14 PM)

Posted by: Oricon 10th July 2016, 01:25 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 02:22 PM)

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 01:27 PM

disregarding the veto, i think everyone has basically admitted in here there is a culture of people exposing all of their entries way too much beforehand to the point where it is like intense focus group - i firmly believed in a PSA first to say 'this is what's not to happen' and then go forward with a zero tolerance approach because then there's no excuse and no confusion about what is expected, but at the same time i definitely saw a very public demonstration of advantage which i think is fair in being eliminated, but i don't believe it to be the only incident, just the only obviously public one

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:28 PM

U won't listen tho, you never do. Everytime someone makes a suggestion, it gets shot down, as has been shown in thsi thread with suggestions to the framework.

If I do it via PM the people wont be able to see discussion. I thought we were an open community and such? Therefor everybody should be able to chime in if they feel like it. Right now I'm just majorly pissed off that it is me out of everybody who hints their entry who gets their entry suspended without warning

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:30 PM

Yes I played this song on plug, yes it got a good reception, but just because this is a popular song with certain people and these certain people happen to check out my thread when I post in it, makes it a veto/suspension?

Posted by: Oricon 10th July 2016, 01:31 PM

I have privately appealed for an entry that was vetoed before with good justification as to why it shouldn't be vetoed, and it got accepted (before I was a moderator), so the moderators DO listen.

Posted by: Iz~ 10th July 2016, 01:32 PM

Absolutely we listen - this discussion has been very informative for when the framework gets updated and there are plenty of things I will be suggesting that have been mentioned that I haven't rebutted.

Most hints are fine because people don't know what the entry is - that's how I always work my hints, I make it so no one knows what my entry is from them and then once the semis go up people might look at the hint and the revealed entry and then see the connection.

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:33 PM

Yes but you're a mod yourself, lets not get it twisted.

I have stated my case in here multiple times, with reason, bur get ignored every time. How do you think that makes someone feel about PMing?

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 01:33 PM

'u won't listen, you never do' is a completely ridiculous generalisation tim, just because you're unhappy doesn't mean you know how it is that i personally process your opinions nor any of the other mods. i've always considered myself to be fair - vetoing people's entries is not a circlejerk to me and i don't get off on it - it means much more work for me... i just wanted to contribute my knowledge of popular music in this role to try and help things along so the contest could be more fair if anything. you also realise that you've actually decided to just insult the framework and mock the mods rather than put forward suggestions? here is your platform, i'm happy to listen.

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:33 PM

QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jul 10 2016, 01:32 PM)

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 01:33 PM

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 02:27 PM)

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 01:34 PM

this does seem very much like picking on tim because he's enjoyed some bjsc success recently ~ the confirmation period is far too long anyway to expect steely mouthed silence about what we’ve entered when people are more socially connected than ever. funny the notion of fair play goes out the window when it suits the mods, for example the anniversary entry debacle, which was allegedly only brought in, so one mod could enter a sugababes album track at some stage ~

it's patently obvious some bjsc mods cannot stand or take any kind of feedback~ if the majority are silent it's because they've seen the reaction and inaction valid concerns about the framework receive~

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:35 PM

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 01:33 PM)

Posted by: Bré 10th July 2016, 01:35 PM

:s there have been FAR more egregious cases of people making it incredibly obvious what their entry is, if you were gonna suddenly swing the banhammer for that offence why not at least do it on a song that has even the slightest case for being a genuine veto?

Posted by: Iz~ 10th July 2016, 01:36 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 02:33 PM)

Posted by: Oricon 10th July 2016, 01:36 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 02:33 PM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 01:36 PM

I didn't hear Tim's song and had no idea about it btw. I don't think it's had many plug plays as I've never come across it tbh.

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 01:38 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 02:35 PM)

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:42 PM

I'm sorrg, i didnt mean to atyack all of you, just a select few.


Would that even make a difference now tho?

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 01:44 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 02:42 PM)

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 01:45 PM

I'll PM you at a later time, when I am less angry if thats okay?

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 01:47 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jul 10 2016, 01:35 PM)

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 01:47 PM

absolutely, whenever you can, i don't imagine we'll have semis up tonight as we're still waiting on other replacements!

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 01:48 PM

Catching up this is absolutely ridiculous. I know the mods have their jobs and the veto is needed, but I'm sorry just because Tim has played a song on plug a couple of times (and I'm on there a lot more often than him so I doubt I missed ), does not mean a significant Buzzjack following. TONNES of people do exactly the same as Tim, pst lyrics and get "YASSS" etc. posted in their thread, is it really a worthy veto that five people have heard it beforehand? I'm pretty sure that many people heard Daddy Says No, The Ocean, even Se avessi un cuore, to name a few from the past few contests, you wouldn't veto when the semis have opened because like 4 people show that they love it, so why is it fine now? Tim has never said "I'm sending this", he's done what loads of people do, played a song on plug which is allowed, and we guessed from the hint. I really don't see what was wrong with that :/ Why is playing songs like twice on external sites punished, it's not that different to PMing a few people potentials.... Most nights now plug ends up being like 5 or 6 people

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 01:49 PM

Personally, I think Ketalina's idea of a PSA etc coming first would cause less controversy.

Posted by: dandy* 10th July 2016, 01:50 PM

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 02:47 PM)

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 01:51 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Jul 10 2016, 02:50 PM)

Posted by: dandy* 10th July 2016, 01:55 PM

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 02:51 PM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 01:56 PM

Yeah I will pm soon - as soon as I figure out who is who

Search function isn't a great help here.

Posted by: HarryEzra 10th July 2016, 01:58 PM

It does feel like the contest could use some adjusting to the veto process. Some of the vetoes are kinda are a bit much imho. We need a balance between strict and fair. right now it seems more strict. I mean the fact like 6 or 7 vetoes today proves that Most of them I get. I dont get Tims at all and the reasosoning is a bit unfair too. Like it seems people could get what he was sending due to it being sent as a potesh to them. However, he has hardly sent it to everyone or played it loads on plug to have 'exsposure'. Just in my opinion seems so unfair on Tim when there are bigger cases out there

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 02:01 PM

Oh, found the names - pms coming soon.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 10th July 2016, 02:03 PM

This is completely and utterly ridiculous Blush has been vetoed and takes away from the whole point of this contest being discoveries. A few of us only knew it as Tim had shown it to us a potential, how does that make for a significant following? So many people play potentials to each other and there have been loads more songs that have got through which have been played to a few people. This just feels ridiculous just because Tim was getting hype from some of us, many entries have gotten early hype, look at Daddy Says No from last month which received even more hype. I'm not saying that should've been vetoed, none of these songs should be being vetoed just because someone has played them to others as a potential.

This really disappoints me actually as this just feels like finding any random reason to veto songs with hype from other members here.

Posted by: Cody Collins 10th July 2016, 02:23 PM

Mind you I've only seen Tim play "Blush" ONCE on Plug. I know that's not really helping considering I haven't been on recently but it's still a bit ridiculous how plug/dubtrack exposure can equal "revealing your entry before semis opened". I know I played New Politics a lot before I sent them this time last year but I didn't realize that now that can lead to a veto?

Now I'm worried about my spin-off entry because it's pretty much the same circumstances as this

Posted by: Bré 10th July 2016, 02:26 PM

It hasn't led to vetoes before, that's why this one is so arbitrary.

Posted by: Cody Collins 10th July 2016, 02:31 PM

IMO this feels all a bit "let's knock Tim out of the YTD #1 but getting him so flustered that he sends a sure-fire DNQ !!!"

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 02:36 PM

QUOTE(Cody Collins @ Jul 10 2016, 03:23 PM)

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 02:38 PM

QUOTE(Cody Collins @ Jul 10 2016, 03:31 PM)

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 02:40 PM

QUOTE(Cody Collins @ Jul 10 2016, 02:31 PM)

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 02:41 PM

but why tim? if tim wasn't YTD 01 someone else would be? would the same happen to them? there's obviously some sort of specific 'conspiracy' that you all seem to know about that i don't!

Posted by: ℒ𝓲𝓷⻤ 10th July 2016, 02:42 PM

I respect that you're trying to make it fair and stick to the rules etc but this really isn't fair in the least and I'm not just saying this because Tim is my friend but I feel like there's a bit of victimisation going on here. James is well known for playing his entries on plug, and I mean constantly (I'm not trying to drag others down here I'm just pointing it out), many, many of us share potentials, that's even discussed in the confirmations threads so often, and then you get those that come on plug and share their song claiming it's just a """"potential"""", with all those quotation marks included so everyone knows it's what they've settled on. If you've decided to come down hard on the no sharing rule this month you should have reiterated that at the beginning instead of just chosing one person the night the semis are supposed to go up to make an example of them, I'm sure there's more than just Tim that's guilty of sharing songs this contest, and every contest for that matter. The fact it was his second confirmation as well shows that it wasn't even his first choice and wouldn't have been what he'd ultimately send to people... What proof do you have that he did "overstep the line" on this rule?

Posted by: Cody Collins 10th July 2016, 02:43 PM

Lindsey you're making it seem like Tim is Katniss

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 02:45 PM

Look, I'm not saying this is a thing to throw me off that #1 spot or anything, it's just very weird how this played out.

More details will be in the PM to the mods, as Ihave calmed down now.

Posted by: Cody Collins 10th July 2016, 02:49 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 07:45 AM)

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 02:49 PM

im going out in a sec but i won't be out too long, i'll read and sort it with you l8rino :3

Posted by: FrankLuck 10th July 2016, 02:49 PM

Actually, I knew 5 /11 - out of the unknown ones, I really enjoyed 'Fool's Gold' and 'Arigato' is quite good, too.

I really can't add too much to the veto framework-debate, as I'm not in the UK, I consider different stuff veto-worthy (I guess I 'work from' different sources) and there are 2-3 entries every month that I've heard 50+ times. On the other hand, I don't know 90% of the forums/blogs that are mentioned while calculating the veto points.

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 02:49 PM

I really really doubt this is a "let's knock Tim off of #1 YTD", otherwise it's just Lotti instead and she's in our "clique" too so would this then happen to her next month?

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 02:50 PM

like i would let anyone come for me on the ytd. yes lew thats a direct threat i'll FIGHT u xxxxxxx

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 02:51 PM

its me and u for number 02 and you and me for number 03 so brang it bish

Posted by: HarryEzra 10th July 2016, 02:52 PM

QUOTE(princess_lotti @ Jul 10 2016, 03:50 PM)

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 02:53 PM

i'll drag u by the beak u wanna fight me u lil bitch????? so u think u can f*** with me do ya???????

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 03:02 PM

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 02:41 PM)

Posted by: Devan 10th July 2016, 03:06 PM

lol

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 03:07 PM

Did the mods know it was Tim's entry? I thought that bit was hidden to them

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 03:08 PM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Jul 10 2016, 04:07 PM)

Did the mods know it was Tim's entry? I thought that bit was hidden to them

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 03:08 PM

QUOTE(Devan @ Jul 10 2016, 04:06 PM)

Posted by: danG 10th July 2016, 03:09 PM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Jul 10 2016, 04:07 PM)

Did the mods know it was Tim's entry? I thought that bit was hidden to them

Posted by: FrankLuck 10th July 2016, 03:10 PM

Btw I do believe that having a whole week for confirmations is too long.
40% of the members confirm something in the first 3 hours and keep changing it during the week, half of these start with veto-worthy stuff, because they still have days to submit something else if option 1 is a veto. Another huge % confirms in the last 1-2 days (like me), but NOT due to lack of time - simply changing a not-yet-submitted entry in my head is a bit easier than actually resubmitting. I know I don't need a week, the ones who submit an entry on day 1 definitely don't need a week and perhaps there wouldn't be this many veto-worthy entries if we had less time for this 'procedure'.
I'm not blaming the ones who submit entry on day 1 (and keep changing it) and I'm not blaming the ones who leave it for the last minute, but we do this because we CAN, with less time to confirm this might change for the better.

Before I forget: I LOVE that the Beaverdonia-contest hasn't even started and it's already a mess

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 03:12 PM

Okay for "transperency's sake" and so everyone knows my thoughts on this matter, here is my PM to the mods as well. I'm very passionate about this song and the contest, which is why it was even harder for me to accept it's faith. Anybody mentioned in this PM, I'm not throwing yall under the bus, y'all were just used as examples as to why it seemed unfair to me.

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 03:13 PM

i think tht is a v well written message and i do think the decision should be reversed in this case

Posted by: Bré 10th July 2016, 03:13 PM

QUOTE(ℒ����⻤ @ Jul 10 2016, 03:42 PM)

Posted by: HarryEzra 10th July 2016, 03:17 PM

Well written message Tim, hope all goes well

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 03:23 PM

Also like Lidnsey said, this song wasn't even my first choice to begin with, as Ego got vetoed. So it's not like I played it on plug as an entry either, since the last time I was there must've been at least before my exams.

Just a lil'point I wanted to add x

Posted by: JSG 10th July 2016, 03:28 PM

I've read through the whole thread and I do feel that this is all a bit excessive vetoing Tims entry when like he says I where my entry out all the time like nothing else although for the last two months I've not played Any potentials on plug.

I've legit only ever seen one person chart TP4Y in the PC forum and even if like 5 people knew the song because he played it on plug and liked it doesn't necessarily mean it gives him the upper hand. I respect the work the mods do but I think you should let Tims entry proceed to the semis and then perhaps introduce a blanket ban on asking opinions On potentials and playing them on plug because then nothing like this should happen again.

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 03:35 PM

Thanks for that Tim. I'm currently stuck in traffic but will give a full read and response, in here, when I get back to Manchester.

If you were made to think that you should be thankful you're not suspended I'm sorry for giving that impression. It was not my intention at all. I apologise I was perhaps a little too brief.

One thing that will be happening later is that we're bringing out a revised set of rules that will prevent a repeat occourance of this.

I'm sorry if you're been made to feel like we have targeted you, all I can do is assure you this isn't the case. None of the mods have any ill feelings towards anyone here.


Sorry this is once more a bit brief and scattered. I will actually be a lot clearer when I eventually make it back to my laptop

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 03:37 PM

Thanks for that Phil!

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 03:38 PM

And in terms of suggestions. We do listen, we do care. In the suggestions thread tell us either what you think we're missing or: what part of the framework is broken, why and what we can do to fix it.

Posted by: Bré 10th July 2016, 03:40 PM

(lost among this controversy: assuming the person who sent Mabel was the one who sent me 2 potentials including that one, really hope he switches to the other one <3)

Posted by: danG 10th July 2016, 03:52 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jul 10 2016, 04:13 PM)

Posted by: Oricon 10th July 2016, 03:55 PM

QUOTE(danG @ Jul 10 2016, 04:52 PM)

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 03:59 PM

v insightful response from a mod there about this whole situation what we're not sure about!!!!!

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 04:00 PM

to clarify that wasn't aimed at silas. seeing as you're online can we have some kind of response to tims message?

Posted by: Addy K!ng 10th July 2016, 04:09 PM

Wow a lot of drama going on today.

Actually I am still hoping we will get semi's up today as I have all the time to listen through, otherwise I have to manage on weekdays and listen to 5-10 songs on daily basis.

Posted by: Devan 10th July 2016, 04:17 PM

Guys some people have wars in their countries.

Posted by: popchartfreak 10th July 2016, 04:18 PM

QUOTE(J▲hq @ Jul 10 2016, 12:49 PM)

Irrelevant in this case. The Stevie Wonder song is very recognisible, I know it and I was born in the 90s.

(And don't go forgetting popchartfreak )

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 04:18 PM

QUOTE(Devan @ Jul 10 2016, 05:17 PM)

Posted by: Oricon 10th July 2016, 04:20 PM

Lotti, we're discussing this. These things require more than just one moderator input and isn't something we can just decide solely by one moderator.

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 04:22 PM

okay cool but it would've been nice for you to say that to acknowledge to all of us that it was being discussed and not ignored

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 04:23 PM

QUOTE(Devan @ Jul 10 2016, 05:17 PM)

Posted by: Oricon 10th July 2016, 04:24 PM

It hasn't been ignored, since Phil has already responded that it is currently under review and a reply from us will be coming as soon as we all agree on a conclusion.

Posted by: Cody Collins 10th July 2016, 04:34 PM

QUOTE(Devan @ Jul 10 2016, 09:17 AM)

Posted by: danG 10th July 2016, 04:34 PM

QUOTE(popchartfreak @ Jul 10 2016, 05:18 PM)

ahh thanks nice to remembered
they do slip through still though, The Pointer Sisters Dare Me snuck through last time..

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 04:36 PM

I'm not saying this to discredit the mods, and I know that Lew does frequent plug, but if playing songs on plug is becoming an issue (it's a part of this site now as many people do use it and enjoy it), maybe someone knowledgeable from the "plug clique" should be on the mod team? That would maybe shed a bit of light on what goes on, it feels like using plug is unfairly targetted by mods who in my eyes mostly don't know or use the site a lot when there are methods used to share potentials that are equally effective and don't get quashed.

This is not me pining for a mod spot or wanting one of my friends to get it in a petty way, I just think that not even being a mod, just adding to the veto panel maybe, even if it was different each month like when there were guest "panellists" a couple of years ago.

Posted by: Riser 10th July 2016, 04:37 PM

On second thought maybe I am okay with missing out on this one. My entry may have been vetoed too based on some of the others that were.

If anyone needs a replacement entry hit me up

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 04:40 PM

everyone returning to this thread like

Posted by: FrankLuck 10th July 2016, 04:45 PM

QUOTE(princess_lotti @ Jul 10 2016, 06:40 PM)

everyone returning to this thread like

Posted by: *Callum™ 10th July 2016, 04:45 PM

to avoid any future confusion, hints should either be banned or taken with a pinch of salt, and the confirmation period should be shorter as to not let anyone slip into vetoe-worthy territory.

i'm sure it sucks to be Tim right now, but perhaps he did disclose a little too many clues as to what song he has entered HOWEVER, the point he is making is that everyone does that - if you're gonna crack down on this, use this situation as the stimulus for a rule, don't just jump straight to banning songs and members.

so much agg, this contest should be fun

Posted by: HarryEzra 10th July 2016, 04:46 PM

QUOTE(princess_lotti @ Jul 10 2016, 05:40 PM)

everyone returning to this thread like

Posted by: Chez Wombat 10th July 2016, 04:54 PM

Posted by: Cameron 10th July 2016, 04:55 PM

I feel like this has gone way over the top. I don't like to involve myself in conflict but I feel this is unfair to Tim. Tim posted an emoji in his thread for the song. I commented 'YASSS' or something like that because he made the right choice of song. So I feel people are not only not allowed to play potentials on plug, but send others their potentials because it is unfair? This really is an embarrassing argument which is actually making me want to not participate in this again. It is an online song contest, not an election or life or death situation. These arguments every damn month are not why I participate in the contest.

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 05:00 PM

Cameron as one of my favourite nations right now, if you dare step out i'll be asking for monthly music off you ANYWAY, so don't.

I think the contest does need to go back to the FUN it used to be over the past few years. Think of the music!!1

Posted by: Leonardo 10th July 2016, 05:02 PM

Oops, I sent Mabel, at least I have a back up entry. Although the majority of blogs mentioned in my veto (Line of Best Fit, Four Oh Five, Hillydilly, All Things Go, Pigeons & Planes, Idolator, Josepvinaixa, Apple Music) seem a bit obscure too be deemed high internet coverage, but hey ho.

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 05:03 PM

Right. Soz peoples I've just pulled into the garage of my building now.

What's occurring now will be:

1 - PSA
2 - Full revised Rules reveal
3 - formal response to Tim

Anything left unanswered after this, flag it up and I'll cover it. Hopefully we should cover pretty much everything here. The order is purely down to the fact that 1&2 are prepared while it's gonna take me a bit to fully catch up with everything that has been going on.

I'll try and cover all the points raised but it won't be with multi quotes and a direct reply to your post because from what I can see there is a common theme to a few comments that we can answer together that saves us repeating ourselves and gets an answer to you quicker.

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 05:06 PM

QUOTE(Ethan @ Jul 10 2016, 04:02 PM)

so you're saying that you didn't vote to veto tim's song?

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 05:08 PM

i'm sorry ethan but your mouth opened way too wide and your eyes WAY too shut to read what i've already stated. don't even try to insinuate that i would dampen someone elses success like some kind of egotistical maniac just because i've had some success in this.

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 05:09 PM

i don’t see why tim has been effectively made to grovel to keep his entry, when following their own framework the mods had no business vetoing it in the first place~

there’s a huge difference between lip service and actually listening to and taking on board feedback!

ALL feedback should be gratefully received, wherever it falls in the forum, not just in one ‘suggestions’ thread . this is a message board, which people frequent in their leisure time, not some remedial mba project ~ it’s this cussed intransigence and tunnel vision, which appears to be deeply ingrained into some of the mods psyche, which is the root cause of 99% of the difficulties and friction in this forum~

Posted by: Oliver 10th July 2016, 05:11 PM

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 06:06 PM)

Amazing!

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 05:12 PM

In all fairness to the mods they have now said they are sorting it in response to Tim, and the other members who've voiced concerns as well. Revising rules and sorting out what they are going to do isn't something that can be magicked out of thin air, at least they ARE doing it and it'll come in due course. I'd rather this was sorted out properly and took a bit of time than it just be half arsed one of the mods being like "well lol sorry nothing is happening" or something. We've all had problems but it's very rude to act like that personally towards a mod as if the mods are a hivemind ruled by just one. Tim has accepted what is happening, that it will be discussed properly, so why shouldn't everyone else?

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 05:12 PM

Thanks for the update y'all. Hopefully we can resolve this

Posted by: Cameron 10th July 2016, 05:14 PM

I think now the best thing to do is for the Mods to mail Tim and they can discuss it further. I guess it will make it more interesting to see whether or not they have changed their minds and decided that he can send it... Or not...

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 05:17 PM

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 05:06 PM)

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 05:08 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 05:20 PM

If anything Lew is the mod who has shown the most support to Tim's cause so why on earth is it him who you have such a problem with...

Posted by: FrankLuck 10th July 2016, 05:20 PM

Tim's entry got more hype in the past 5 hours as the other 60 entries will get in the next 7 days altogether

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 05:20 PM

it's not more me hitting a nerve moreso you sitting on all these big opinions that just come flying out, yet with no actual suggestion on how to improve things.

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 05:21 PM

ethan lew is trying to help tim!!

Posted by: Regina 10th July 2016, 05:26 PM

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 05:29 PM

QUOTE(Ethan @ Jul 10 2016, 06:09 PM)

ALL feedback should be gratefully received, wherever it falls in the forum, not just in one ‘suggestions’ thread . this is a message board, which people frequent in their leisure time, not some remedial mba project

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 05:35 PM

it seems to me that leww is jumping to assumptions; i do not see how i have besmirched his integrity by asking a straightforward question?! where are these big opinions?! all i see is a number of pertinent issues raised about the fairness of the veto~

Posted by: burbe 10th July 2016, 05:36 PM

This has been pretty hilarious to read through, not gonna lie

I believe we need #JusticeforTim and after reading through the decision to veto does seem excessively harsh! I feel like someone should resign since it's resignation season atm

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 05:37 PM

can our hearts truly take anymore resignations??????

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 05:37 PM

i'm still pretty broken from DC

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 05:39 PM

QUOTE(Ethan @ Jul 10 2016, 06:35 PM)

Posted by: burbe 10th July 2016, 05:39 PM

QUOTE(princess_lotti @ Jul 10 2016, 06:37 PM)

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 05:40 PM

why theresa may when you can theresa will?

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 05:42 PM

QUOTE(burbe @ Jul 10 2016, 06:36 PM)

This has been pretty hilarious to read through, not gonna lie

I believe we need #JusticeforTim and after reading through the decision to veto does seem excessively harsh! I feel like someone should resign since it's resignation season atm

Posted by: Bradders 10th July 2016, 05:51 PM

I wish we could all just get along like we used to... I wish I could bake a cake filled with rainbows and smiles and everyone would eat it and be happy!

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 05:51 PM

So in future im gonna stop posting lyrics to my selections as thats what ive been doing since i joined and nobody's called me out on it but if this kinda thing causes 10 pages of controversy I guess we should all stop

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 05:51 PM

QUOTE(Bradders @ Jul 10 2016, 06:51 PM)

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 05:51 PM

QUOTE(Bradders @ Jul 10 2016, 06:51 PM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 05:52 PM

Also,

MATHS (Umbrella Sign)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I LEFT A COMMENT ON YOUR WALL AS YOUR INBOX WAS FULL!!

Please respond and reconfirm!!

Posted by: Ethan 10th July 2016, 05:53 PM

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 05:39 PM)

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 05:54 PM

i'm clearly not the only one from this thread who had thought the demeanor in the comment was snide but if that wasn't your intention then i must've read it wrong, i'll hold my hands up to that

Posted by: dandy* 10th July 2016, 05:55 PM

Can't everyone just follow the thread instruction and BEAVHAVE?

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 05:58 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Jul 10 2016, 06:55 PM)

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 06:09 PM

Hate to be pedantic but will the semi's be up tonight or nah?

Posted by: memebury. 10th July 2016, 06:11 PM

QUOTE(Regina @ Jul 10 2016, 12:43 PM)

They are making it harder on themselves by being so nit picky and power hungry tbh there IS a happy medium to be had, they just need to not be so strict and OTT when it comes to things like "this song was briefly mentioned on a housewives blog about what she listens to when she does the hoovering " and "this song went to #45 in Outer Mongolia so it should be a veto".

QUOTE(Liаm @ Jul 10 2016, 05:36 PM)

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 06:13 PM

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 10 2016, 07:09 PM)

Hate to be pedantic but will the semi's be up tonight or nah?

Posted by: Robot 10th July 2016, 06:15 PM

Well this was quite entertaining to return from my weekend break to see. I think things are really difficult to decide with vetoes and the framework is the best solution or we'd have disputes way more often, but I do feel like we're losing more and more entries which would be acceptable these days just because they hit a few bumps in the framework.

It is a really difficult thing to do but it does feel like we're getting increasing cases of things being vetoed because they appear on Scandipop and they've been in the contest before where they finished in 27th. The aim is to send discoveries, I get that, but I feel like plenty of discoveries are lost in the midst of unfortunately hitting some points which really aren't that harmful. I was told if I sent 'California' by SAARA then it would be vetoed because she charted in Finland in 2015 and because her EP is on Scandipop - would that be an inspired entry? No, of course not, but would it likely to be a discovery to a massive majority of the site? Yeah I'm sure it would be.

I realise this isn't directly related to Whads happened to Tim today but seeing as these veto discussions are ongoing I just thought I'd say it. But I do think the framework for the most part is the best solution, I just think the whip can be cracked much too readily recently as soon as the slightest sniff of cheap comes.

I also realise I of everyone have the least call to do this when I sent the cheapest entry of the year last contest but I'm not just speaking for me obviously.

Posted by: Oricon 10th July 2016, 06:17 PM

Then by that logic anything Girls' Generation and 2NE1 can be sent because yanno it's a discovery to most people and they haven't exactly got a following in Buzzjack any less to SAARA *.*

(I get where you're coming from but at the same time SAARA is quite a big scandi act herself so I'm inclined to even dump her if she was researched upon in future contests)

Posted by: Robot 10th July 2016, 06:28 PM

That was just an example of some of the cases that can go against someone though really. Is someone having a #2 hit in Finland and an EP posted on Scandipop really that significant? It's difficult and not everyone is always going to agree but I do think some songs that, while not the most inspired, but would be a discovery to most, can get lost in some just loosely hitting some of these points that really add to little. This is more in relation to the discussion of a song getting 7pts for charting in Belgium, it can sometimes distort whether a song is actually that bad and we lose some gems to this need to really crack down on any slight sniff of being heard by a small few.

Posted by: Harve 10th July 2016, 06:29 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jul 10 2016, 02:35 PM)

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 06:31 PM

i don't think bonbon was THAT bad, it just had a few people who saw it because a couple of twitter accounts posted a snippet saying she sounded like rihanna/sia

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 06:31 PM

QUOTE(Harve @ Jul 10 2016, 06:29 PM)

Posted by: LexC 10th July 2016, 06:33 PM

Not gonna act like I can add anything constructive on Timgate that hasn't been said already here but since we're on the issue of the framework, if anything I think the whole idea of the 'trifecta' needs revising as well as the demographics of BJSC that lead to the introduction of the Framework isn't as scandi/pop/scandipop influenced any more, plus Pitchfork and Popjustice aren't the big forces as once they were.

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 06:33 PM

yeah i did the research on that one - i was concerned about its REAL WORLD presence but there was nothing on the framework to support it but 'leww heard this at a house party in manchester and a gay club l8r that evening' into the framework

Posted by: Bré 10th July 2016, 06:33 PM

QUOTE(Harve @ Jul 10 2016, 07:29 PM)

Posted by: Cameron 10th July 2016, 06:34 PM

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 07:33 PM)

Posted by: Cameron 10th July 2016, 06:35 PM

Also, tbh, most of Britain probably didn't even take a notice of it because they presumed she was singing about a sweetie.

Posted by: Harve 10th July 2016, 06:36 PM

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 07:33 PM)

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 06:36 PM

omg i want tp hear bonbon at a club

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 06:37 PM

buzzjack shazam top 40

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 06:38 PM

QUOTE(LexC @ Jul 10 2016, 07:33 PM)

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 06:39 PM

This was Bonbon's research:

Era Istrefi ~ Bonbon 3
- dnq in LXV 3
- 13m+ Youtube views
- josepvinaixa
- threads on gagadaily, ATRL, breathheavy & ukmix, otherwise it's mainly mp3 links on the first 10 pages of google results
- thread in the Pop forum posted by Addy, had no responses since the weekend (it was top 150 on iTunes)

It was no where near the veto zone but was one we were aware of.


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On the framework - this will be quite a substantial overhaul. There things that we are finding are unintentionally harsh or things that are completely missing altogether. It's also going to be restructured to make it clearer how it all links together to make it a lot easier to work out your points.

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 06:39 PM

i'd volunteer to help with that, especially with summer atm

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 06:40 PM

That is possibly the least amount of points I ever got and it is jow regarded as my cheapest entry *.*

Posted by: #00274E 10th July 2016, 06:45 PM

when can I breathe that my entry is post-veto process?

got a good feeling about this one!

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 06:46 PM

The irony of me agreeing with everything Rob is saying about the dichotomy of "racking up veto points vs how many people will actually discover the song" despite him being a key factor in a lot of the angst i've had with the contest. Songs get vetoed for the most random and useless of things even though no one will have heard them before but others get through despite having followings before the contest begins.

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 07:33 PM)

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 06:48 PM

That is something we will seriously consider Liam.

The important thing to keep in mind about the framework is that as Leww mentioned earlier it's designed to sweep out those tracks that you don't know by name but recognise the second they start playing. So it'll still be very broad in places in order to hit those.

There are also sections of the framework that are there to act more as a deterrent, mainly the AV section granted.


From my point of view the trifecta still serve a useful purpose. They are still great sign posts to what is big in those three communities, but the sliding scale could probably do with a change.

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 06:52 PM

COME ON SLIDING SCALE!!!

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 06:54 PM

omg

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 06:54 PM

lew but this isnt ur national thread u shouldnt be showing ur potentials here xxxxx

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 06:55 PM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Jul 10 2016, 07:46 PM)

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 07:04 PM

Would an iTunes positions for a few days really be a reason to veto a song? Like obviously if it is top 10p for several days, I'd see it but for instance Bonbon peaked at #134 and fell down v quickly afterwards

Posted by: Silas 10th July 2016, 07:09 PM

On its own? No.

But it would be looked at, in context, to give us an idea of how known the song is and if it's starting to break through, as BonBon did end up doing.

Posted by: Harve 10th July 2016, 07:10 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 08:04 PM)

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 07:13 PM

Lmao the corner shop ahead of its time :')

QUOTE(Silas @ Jul 10 2016, 07:09 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 07:19 PM

Personally I think I'd rather that the mods applied their own views to it and looked at things in context, like a mix ofthe old and the new, because the veto isn't foolproof as we've seen. But then the mods just get even more flack than usual as you've said so the shit the veto gets is preferable

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 07:20 PM

Maths Umbrella Sign is viewing this thread, so to repeat:

QUOTE(#BJSCSLAYERRRRRR @ Jul 10 2016, 06:52 PM)

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 07:20 PM

it would be good if we could use the veto framework AND also our opinions in conjunction with each other, because the veto does catch quite a lot of the offenders then for the odd one or two we could say 'oh but wait a minute...' - would people give us flack for that?

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 07:23 PM

QUOTE(Cucumberella @ Jul 10 2016, 08:20 PM)

Posted by: Jade 10th July 2016, 07:24 PM

Holy moly I leave the country and this MessT happens

(Can't add much to what has already been said but it is a ridiculous veto so hope it gets overturned. Glad that there will be some framework changes though and thanks for clearing some stuff up mods)

Posted by: Cucumberella 10th July 2016, 07:24 PM

i can take some kinds of flack just not this kind

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 07:24 PM

The ones that got vetoed probably would, but they would have to accept it if its a fair veto

Posted by: Math ☂ 10th July 2016, 07:25 PM

Resubmitting in a second, but will this contest fall under the upcoming framework or the current one? Very conflicted which route I should take.

Posted by: Math ☂ 10th July 2016, 07:26 PM

NEVERMIND I JUST SAW THE NEW THREAD

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 07:28 PM

!!!!!!!! oH MY GOD

Posted by: Bré 10th July 2016, 07:30 PM

Math :')

Just confirm the one you like the most x

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 07:30 PM

!!!

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 10 2016, 11:39 AM)

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 10 2016, 11:39 AM)

Posted by: HausofKubrick 10th July 2016, 07:32 PM

Also leww you wouldn't get flack from me if you merged the framework and your own stance taking into account how many people will have heard the song and will make a discovery out of it! I'd say to lean more to the lenient side too if you're all on the fence on a particular song because I'd rather songs that people were passionate about got through if they're not overly cheap and you're not totally sure on it. Would cause less meltdowns too

Posted by: Qween 10th July 2016, 07:37 PM

Oh my goodness at all this. I can sympathise on some level, of course, having received 15 (I think) vetoes over the years, it sucks, and back when Jess Mills was vetoed first time round in a pre-framework BJSC it was just as much of a THING.

But really, as someone who views what the mods do/say, it's a really bloody difficult job and they are damned if they do, damned if they don't. It used to be they couldn't use their judgement, because they were biased against certain posters. So the framework came in to remove any bias, then people moaned that it wasn't comprehensive enough. Now it's TOO comprehensive and restrictive and the mods are being shot down for not using their personal judgement. It's probably the hardest job on all of Buzzjack and I know tempers and emotions are running wild given the circumstances, but there are better ways to deal with it than launch into multi page attacks on the mods.

As for the comments I saw dotted along the way about the framework potentially curtailing discoveries and/or making the contest less exciting, I think that's an utter crock. The real reason the contest has got less exciting and discoveries fewer and farther between is because of the growing homogeneity of entries, with people more and more focusing on doing WELL, rather than sending a song people will love. Yes, the two can and often do occur naturally together, but so often that isn't the case. And before any stones are thrown, I DO live in a glass house with regards to this, so I am well aware that I'm not innocent.

Posted by: Leonardo 10th July 2016, 07:38 PM

Anyway, reconfirmed with my first foreign language entry since Romeo Santos.

Posted by: memebury. 10th July 2016, 07:46 PM

I think this kind of thing puts some people off signing up for mod positions tbh

Posted by: Harve 10th July 2016, 07:51 PM

QUOTE(Qween @ Jul 10 2016, 08:37 PM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 07:52 PM

QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Jul 10 2016, 07:30 PM)

Posted by: Cody Collins 10th July 2016, 07:54 PM

I should have brought holy water today

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 07:55 PM

I agree that people's attitudes have contributed to how I feel about BJSC, it's unfair to just blame mods because the framework only exists because a past crisis of BJSC where people would be cheap as possible with a known popular song so they had a high chance of doing well, this is similar as people recently seem to be focusing so much on doing well that they're plastering potentials all over the place so people hear them all and they can get opinions. People should go with their hearts more often! I'm not saying this and pretending I don't do the same sometimes because I do, but like with Annalisa for example I loved it too mch to not send it. I thought it would be a borderline Q and come like 31st at best, but even if it had DNQ'd, I'd rather have sent it and a few people got a discovery from it, than hunted for a hit I didn't care much about. This is supposed to be about discoveries and it's supposed to be a bit of fun but too many people treat it way too seriously, hound the mods for no reason a lot of the time (I of course don't mean what happened today, I think this was a discussion that was needed) and it ends up being less fun and more of a chore to actively participate.

Posted by: Iz~ 10th July 2016, 08:00 PM

QUOTE(Qween @ Jul 10 2016, 08:37 PM)

Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR 10th July 2016, 08:02 PM

QUOTE(Cody Collins @ Jul 10 2016, 08:54 PM)

Posted by: gooddelta 10th July 2016, 08:09 PM

I always think it's so much more satisfying when you do grab an unexpected smash with your favourite song too. Even a top five would feel hollow to me if I sent it purely to try and get a smash. It's all about the pride you feel in people sharing the same passion for a song you love I think, and knowing people are making a great discovery out of something you're championing.

Every now and then I used to be tempted to turn to the dark (chasing a hit) side, if I had a particularly bad run of form, but it's been quite some time since the last time I did that...looking back it was Bad Boys Cry by Mark Lower in 2013 - I liked it - didn't love it - but thought it would smash but it was a DNQ - lesson learnt. I just can't bring myself to send something I can't get fully behind myself anymore.

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 08:14 PM

What is it with people not noticing things in this thread :,) still not over that

Posted by: Qween 10th July 2016, 08:14 PM

There is, of course, a downside to sending a song you genuinely LOVE and it doing badly too though. Thinking back to my sending For My Sins a few months ago, I was really irked when it DNQ'd, even if a few people really liked it.

Posted by: Oricon 10th July 2016, 08:18 PM

If I dnq this month with a song which I'd rank as one of my top 10 favourite songs of all time, I genuinely would cry

Posted by: Cody Collins 10th July 2016, 08:18 PM

I think in terms of the "send what you love" mantra, I've gotten my best results with the songs I love the most (with the exception of "You Settle Me" - vote for it in Rejects!). I remember sending "Bring Back The Summer" on a whim after getting vetoed and I didn't even think I would qualify, but it was one of my favorite new songs at the moment and the first thing I thought of, so I just went with it. I ended up getting my best result this year. I also think that sending stuff for success is the reason why I haven't done well the past few months.

I think if you're really passionate about your selections, the love you feel for them will seep through and echo in everyone else.

Posted by: gooddelta 10th July 2016, 08:19 PM

QUOTE(Qween @ Jul 10 2016, 09:14 PM)

Posted by: memebury. 10th July 2016, 08:19 PM

QUOTE(Qween @ Jul 10 2016, 09:14 PM)

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 08:20 PM

yeah most of my recent entries have been songs i've loved and have ended up doing well. i think girli is the hugest example here, i sent her because i am OBSESSED ((omg new girli song #promo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7W9lOQl4gM )), didn't expect to even Q, but got 5th slay

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 08:21 PM

Yeah I was lucky a few people liked Feeling Electric - I would have been really miffed if it had DNQed because at the time (and still !!) I was so invested in the song and in love with it.

I always think it's key to have an entry you love because it really makes it a better experience for everyone - there's nothing better than being able to get behind something you're passionate about rather than something you have no specific liking for.

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 08:22 PM

QUOTE(Cody Collins @ Jul 10 2016, 09:18 PM)

Posted by: Iz~ 10th July 2016, 08:23 PM

Oh I have been so irked in the past, with Stamp!, with Sonsick, with Megitsune But with this one I'm mentally preparing myself (to not go on an unseemly rant) in case the worst happens, and if it qualifies, I'll be overjoyed. And when it comes down to it the dangers of losing a great entry to a tough semi are worth the risk that it will do well, better than not caring what happens to it.

Posted by: *Tim 10th July 2016, 08:23 PM

I echo the "send what you love" comments. I've had my most successes with my faves (Animals, K3, All Night Long, Bonbon) i thought half of those would dnq, but went with them anyway

Posted by: princess_lotti 10th July 2016, 08:23 PM

side question: is this the longest confirmations thread ever???

Posted by: Cody Collins 10th July 2016, 08:25 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Jul 10 2016, 01:22 PM)

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 08:27 PM

QUOTE(princess_lotti @ Jul 10 2016, 09:23 PM)

Posted by: HarryEzra 10th July 2016, 08:27 PM

I've always sent the songs I have loved maybe some did go off me see easily Them Swoops for exmaple but I have always loved them enough to send them.

Posted by: memebury. 10th July 2016, 08:27 PM

QUOTE(mdna. @ Jul 10 2016, 09:21 PM)

Posted by: mdna. 10th July 2016, 08:30 PM

QUOTE(memebury. @ Jul 10 2016, 09:27 PM)

Posted by: JSG 10th July 2016, 08:31 PM

There have been a couple I've sent in the past that did really badly that I really loved, perhaps Moya being the biggest example of this. I've never been so gutted for an entry of mine doing so awful.

Posted by: Oliver 10th July 2016, 08:31 PM

Is YouTube views something you look at when discussing potential vetos?

And if the not too much trouble, can I have some feedback on Arigato? Just wondering what your views were regarding the fact most of Buzzjack probably hadn't heard it (it's been mentioned in two threads, this one being one of them).

Posted by: Liаm 10th July 2016, 08:33 PM

QUOTE(*Tim @ Jul 10 2016, 09:23 PM)