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 6th December 2020, 05:04 PM
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Reports that The Queen is to be one of the first to have the vaccine in order to try and dispel fears started by anti-vaxxers.
I thought to myself that her and Philip would have it straight away. This post has been edited by CHRIS-TMAS: 6th December 2020, 05:17 PM |
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6th December 2020, 05:06 PM
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Say that hiss with your chest, and...
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After the publicized Nottingham and London Harrods incidents I am glad that I am not going into my nearest city centre to do Christmas shopping but going online. At least in the Nottingham crowd pictures some people are wearing masks though.
QUOTE(CHRIS-TMAS @ Dec 6 2020, 05:04 PM)  Reports that The Queen is to be one of the first to have the vaccine in order to try and dispel fears started by anti-vaxxers. I was actually thinking about this last night that the Queen would probably be the first or one of the first to take it, and yes that makes sense. This post has been edited by Road Salt Mixer: 6th December 2020, 05:11 PM |
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6th December 2020, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(Road Salt Mixer @ Dec 6 2020, 05:06 PM) I was actually thinking about this last night that the Queen would probably be the first or one of the first to take it, and yes that makes sense. Buckingham Palace has refused to comment but Sky News says that it will be made public when she's had it in the hope that it may encourage people put off by the anti-Vaxxers to have it. |
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6th December 2020, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(CHRIS-TMAS @ Dec 6 2020, 05:04 PM) Reports that The Queen is to be one of the first to have the vaccine in order to try and dispel fears started by anti-vaxxers. I thought to myself that her and Philip would have it straight away. Given their ages, I'm not convinced that is a good idea. If one of them died a few weeks after having the vaccine, that could cause confidence in it to plummet. |
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6th December 2020, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 6 2020, 06:50 PM) Given their ages, I'm not convinced that is a good idea. If one of them died a few weeks after having the vaccine, that could cause confidence in it to plummet. I hadn't thought of that! |
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6th December 2020, 10:11 PM
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No surprise to see the Queen getting it first...sums up English society really 🤨
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6th December 2020, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(Christmasteve201 @ Dec 6 2020, 10:11 PM) No surprise to see the Queen getting it first...sums up English society really 🤨 She is not jumping the queue Steve. Well maybe she is, but it's to help boost confidence in the vaccine. |
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6th December 2020, 10:38 PM
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I will never understand the English fascination with hierarchy and being born into position...
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7th December 2020, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 6 2020, 06:50 PM) Given their ages, I'm not convinced that is a good idea. If one of them died a few weeks after having the vaccine, that could cause confidence in it to plummet. I hadn't thought of this. Their death could have absolutely nothing to do with the vaccine(age, illness etc) but of course...anti-vaxxers would make the connection anyway.þ |
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7th December 2020, 08:35 AM
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Yeah I feel like making a big deal about giving it to Philip especially could be playing with fire
QUOTE(Christmasteve201 @ Dec 6 2020, 10:11 PM) No surprise to see the Queen getting it first...sums up English society really 🤨 Take away the fact that she's the Queen, she's a 94 year old woman, she'd be very near the front of the queue anyway..? 
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7th December 2020, 01:14 PM
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I signed up to take part in a trial of a Covid vaccine. I'll be getting my first dose (or a placebo) on Wednesday.
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7th December 2020, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(J❄️hq @ Dec 7 2020, 08:35 AM) Yeah I feel like making a big deal about giving it to Philip especially could be playing with fire Take away the fact that she's the Queen, she's a 94 year old woman, she'd be very near the front of the queue anyway..? Well I did think of that but she would only be on the second tier of deployment after NHS staff and care homes. The point being she should wait her turn like everyone else. |
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7th December 2020, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 7 2020, 01:14 PM) I signed up to take part in a trial of a Covid vaccine. I'll be getting my first dose (or a placebo) on Wednesday. Do you know if youll be given the vaccine or nothing? |
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7th December 2020, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(Christmasteve201 @ Dec 7 2020, 02:55 PM) Do you know if youll be given the vaccine or nothing? I think that would defeat the purpose of a blind trial if you knew. |
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7th December 2020, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(Christmasteve201 @ Dec 7 2020, 01:55 PM) Do you know if youll be given the vaccine or nothing? QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Dec 7 2020, 02:03 PM) I think that would defeat the purpose of a blind trial if you knew. Indeed. Nobody will know. That makes sure that participants don't get treated differently or behave differently themselves. |
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7th December 2020, 02:24 PM
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Say that hiss with your chest, and...
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After the news about the Nottingham one, I wonder who thought it was a good idea to allow Christmas markets this year, almost every time I went to my nearest city's one in previous Christmases it has been very busy indeed and those narrow streets between the stalls do lead to crowding. A more covid secure one alas would have to be one a bigger scale with wider 'streets' for shoppers to walk around the market and the stalls spread out too.
QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 7 2020, 02:14 PM) Indeed. Nobody will know. That makes sure that participants don't get treated differently or behave differently themselves. Although I assume you will eventually be told after the trial is over. If it is the vaccine not the placebo you take and then the vaccine is verified as safe and effective, you won't need any other vaccine. This post has been edited by Road Salt Mixer: 7th December 2020, 02:27 PM |
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7th December 2020, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(Road Salt Mixer @ Dec 7 2020, 02:24 PM) After the news about the Nottingham one, I wonder who thought it was a good idea to allow Christmas markets this year, almost every time I went to my nearest city's one in previous Christmases it has been very busy indeed. Although I assume you will eventually be told after the trial is over. If it is the vaccine not the placebo you take and then the vaccine is verified as safe and effective, you won't need any other vaccine. The trial lasts two years. If I am offered an approved vaccine before then - which I should be as I am over 50 - I have been advised to accept it which would mean I leave the trial. |
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7th December 2020, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 7 2020, 02:28 PM) The trial lasts two years. If I am offered an approved vaccine before then - which I should be as I am over 50 - I have been advised to accept it which would mean I leave the trial. Two years?  Will that vaccine if verified be that much used after then with lots of rival vaccines around before then with shorter trials? Of course you would expect the coronavirus to continue to mutate which means that new coronavirus vaccines will be needed in years to come. But if this trial for the vaccine you are on is for this version of coronavirus and a new mutation is around in two years time then it won't work and will have to be remade.
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7th December 2020, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(Road Salt Mixer @ Dec 7 2020, 02:37 PM) Two years? Will that vaccine if verified be that much used after then with lots of rival vaccines around before then with shorter trials? Of course you would expect the coronavirus to continue to mutate which means that new coronavirus vaccines will be needed in years to come. But if this trial for the vaccine you are on is for this version of coronavirus and a new mutation is around in two years time then it won't work and will have to be remade.If you are part of the trial they will monitor the full side effects and check immunity levels etc. - it is this important work which we do not know yet, which will be the case of whether we have to have booster jabs, and if we do, what frequency they will be. The good news is Covid-19 has not mutated as far as I aware and while it may mutate, it also might not mutate as well. The more vaccines there are the better, the world needs to be vaccinated. Let's hope the Oxford one is approved shortly as that vaccine is the game changing one in the short term. |
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7th December 2020, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(Road Salt Mixer @ Dec 7 2020, 02:37 PM) Two years? Will that vaccine if verified be that much used after then with lots of rival vaccines around before then with shorter trials? Of course you would expect the coronavirus to continue to mutate which means that new coronavirus vaccines will be needed in years to come. But if this trial for the vaccine you are on is for this version of coronavirus and a new mutation is around in two years time then it won't work and will have to be remade.I think all the trials (including those for Pfizer etc.) last two years just to monitor all the participants. They can start announcing results when around 100 of the people in the trial have tested positive for Covid. Continuing to monitor progress for longer will give a better idea of how long immunity lasts. |
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