Melanie C - 'The Sea', 2011 • 5th Album / 12th Anniversary |
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25th August 2011, 10:10 PM
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Rather than download a leak, why don't you listen to the clips on itunes and buy it when it comes out to support the artist, rather than downloading an illegal copy which doesn't benefit the artist at all. Get off your high horse. I'm gonna buy the album, I wanna hear it first though. |
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25th August 2011, 10:11 PM
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Rather than download a leak, why don't you listen to the clips on itunes and buy it when it comes out to support the artist, rather than downloading an illegal copy which doesn't benefit the artist at all. He's going to buy it anyway, I can vouch for that. He probably just wants to listen early. |
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25th August 2011, 10:13 PM
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25th August 2011, 10:17 PM
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25th August 2011, 10:21 PM
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25th August 2011, 10:23 PM
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Oh ZZZ what a boring argument. The free availability of illegal downloads encourages the artist to make better music. If Melanie has made a strong album (and she has) then she need not worry about losing sales from illegal downloads. It's actually healthy in terms of pushing artists to make quality music.
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25th August 2011, 10:27 PM
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Oh ZZZ what a boring argument. The free availability of illegal downloads encourages the artist to make better music. If Melanie has made a strong album (and she has) then she need not worry about losing sales from illegal downloads. It's actually healthy in terms of pushing artists to make quality music. Edit: LiLi sent me one, nevermind. This post has been edited by Regina: 25th August 2011, 10:32 PM |
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25th August 2011, 10:35 PM
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Oh ZZZ what a boring argument. The free availability of illegal downloads encourages the artist to make better music. If Melanie has made a strong album (and she has) then she need not worry about losing sales from illegal downloads. It's actually healthy in terms of pushing artists to make quality music. I disagree. Illegal downloads actually lose artists thousands of pounds. Its like walking into a shop and stealing something which you havent actually paid for. |
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25th August 2011, 10:36 PM
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25th August 2011, 10:37 PM
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I'm not casting doubt on the illegality of it. Of course it's illegal and perhaps immoral. Either you've misinterpreted my point or chosen to ignore it, that being that when you know thousands of people who might previously have bought your album are now only going to do so if they 'preview' it via an illegal download and like what they hear, you've got a stronger incentive to make a decent record than when you knew the fans would buy it regardless. If there's one good thing to come of the digital era in that regard it's that artists can't be complacent. Bad for the label, yes, good for the fan who can expect a quality album.
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25th August 2011, 10:45 PM
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I'm not casting doubt on the illegality of it. Of course it's illegal and perhaps immoral. Either you've misinterpreted my point or chosen to ignore it, that being that when you know thousands of people who might previously have bought your album are now only going to do so if they 'preview' it via an illegal download and like what they hear, you've got a stronger incentive to make a decent record than when you knew the fans would buy it regardless. If there's one good thing to come of the digital era in that regard it's that artists can't be complacent. Bad for the label, yes, good for the fan who can expect a quality album. How many people actually download something for free and then go out and buy the actual album in the shops though? Some people will use the excuse that they want to listen to the album first, well itunes provide 90 second clips of all tracks which usually give you a strong indication of whether you will like the album. Secondly, I think in a lot of cases, most people will only download it for free than pay £10 in the shops. Album sales have been on a steep decline in the past couple of years and I think its incredibly wrong of websites like this to be encouraging something which has actually been proven to harm an artists sales. |
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25th August 2011, 10:51 PM
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How many people actually download something for free and then go out and buy the actual album in the shops though? Some people will use the excuse that they want to listen to the album first, well itunes provide 90 second clips of all tracks which usually give you a strong indication of whether you will like the album. Secondly, I think in a lot of cases, most people will only download it for free than pay £10 in the shops. Album sales have been on a steep decline in the past couple of years and I think its incredibly wrong of websites like this to be encouraging something which has actually been proven to harm an artists sales. I do |
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25th August 2011, 11:06 PM
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How many people actually download something for free and then go out and buy the actual album in the shops though? Some people will use the excuse that they want to listen to the album first, well itunes provide 90 second clips of all tracks which usually give you a strong indication of whether you will like the album. Secondly, I think in a lot of cases, most people will only download it for free than pay £10 in the shops. Album sales have been on a steep decline in the past couple of years and I think its incredibly wrong of websites like this to be encouraging something which has actually been proven to harm an artists sales. Even 1:30 clips, don't give a good indication of how a song will appeal to you once you've bedded it in a bit. Often clips are entirely misleading, more often than not I'd say. This website isn't 'encouraging' anything - I'm baffled as to how you've come to that conclusion. I'm giving an opinion, so is Regina, it doesn't reflect the website as a whole. |
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26th August 2011, 10:24 AM
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Even 1:30 clips, don't give a good indication of how a song will appeal to you once you've bedded it in a bit. Often clips are entirely misleading, more often than not I'd say. Thats hardly a good justification for downloading illegally. This website isn't 'encouraging' anything - I'm baffled as to how you've come to that conclusion. I'm giving an opinion, so is Regina, it doesn't reflect the website as a whole. You are encouraging downloading illegally by sharing Mp3 links. |
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26th August 2011, 11:22 AM
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Oh ZZZ what a boring argument. The free availability of illegal downloads encourages the artist to make better music. If Melanie has made a strong album (and she has) then she need not worry about losing sales from illegal downloads. It's actually healthy in terms of pushing artists to make quality music. But sales don't always reflect the quality. I mean "Blackout" was/is one of the most illegally downloaded albums ever, yet its sales are almost appalling. |
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26th August 2011, 12:18 PM
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26th August 2011, 02:34 PM
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26th August 2011, 02:37 PM
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I really don't see what the problem is by downloading the leak to know what the album is like when I am going to buy the album when it comes out.
1 minute clips on itunes are not enough to fully get a taste of the album, especially Enemy which is 8 minutes long. People all over the site are aksing for links to other leaked album yet you single us out here in this thread. This post has been edited by Regina: 26th August 2011, 02:38 PM |
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26th August 2011, 03:24 PM
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I found the love, I found the love in me
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Oooh. The albums leaked? Link please
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26th August 2011, 04:15 PM
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Finished listening, pretty damn amazing.
Top 5. 1. Enemy 2. Stupid Game 3. Burn 4. Think About It 5. The Sea |
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