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Posted by: liamk97 Jul 16 2016, 11:15 AM





Drake is aiming to match Wet Wet Wet's run of 15 consecutive weeks at #1, meaning he'll be just two weeks away from breaking Bryan Adam's record. However, The Chainsmokers were only a few thousand away from the top spot last week with 'Don't Let Me Down' and Jonas Blue's new single 'Perfect Strangers' has been flying up the charts, so either one of them could break Drake's run this week. New entries may come in the shape of Katy Perry with her Olympics single 'Rise', Britney Spears' comeback 'Make Me...', 5 Seconds of Summer's 'Girls Talk Boys' (the theme song to the new Ghostbusters movie) and Snakehips and Zayn's 'Cruel'.

Biffy Clyro could be on track for a second consecutive week at #1 this week, which would mark the first in 17 weeks, with their biggest threat from new releases appearing to be Michael Kiwanuka's Love & Hate. Other new entries may include Bright Light Bright Light, Good Charlotte, Jeff Beck and Steven Tyler.


Breakdown of the week
- Saturday and Sunday: Information on Twitter from MintRoyale only. Please do not make requests, we do not have any information other than what's posted.
- Monday: OCC Top 100 + Radio 1 Chart Update 5:30pm to 5:45pm.
- Tuesday: Top 40 update as and when we receive them with requests, this is NOT 100% guaranteed however. The OCC may publish sales flashes of their own accord but likewise, this is not guaranteed. Twitter and social media is your friend for today. Please post any information you find with a source. Do not nag for updates, we will post a top 40 update if we receive one.
- Wednesday: Top 40 update from Music Week from 5:45, and potential top 5 sales but this is not guaranteed.
- Thursday: See Tuesday.

Other notes (please read)
- You may make requests Tuesday to Thursday but outside the top 40, specific positions will not be revealed (unless deemed necessary by a mod).
- Please do not demand a midweek update, one will be posted as and when we receive the information. Patience is a virtue.
- Sales information will be given out as deemed necessary by a moderator, please bear this in mind when making requests. Most requests for sales will be ignored.
- To keep everyone in the loop of all chart action, please refer to the iTunes and Spotify threads.

Posted by: liamk97 Jul 16 2016, 11:15 AM



Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data:

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/

1 Drake feat. Wizkid & Kyla - One Dance 20,435
2 Jonas Blue feat. JP Cooper - Perfect Stangers 20,219
3 Calum Scott - Dancing On My Own 20,112
4 The Chainsmokers feat. Daya - Don't Let Me Down 19,102
5 Clean Bandit feat. Louisa Johnson - Tears 17,45

6-10
9 Shawn Mendes - Treat You Better

11-20
12 5 Seconds of Summer - Girls Talk Boys *
13 Katy Perry - Rise *
20 MØ - Final Song

21-30
22 Britney Spears feat. G-Eazy - Make Me... *
29 Christine and the Queens - Tilted

31-40
36 Snakehips feat. ZAYN - Cruel *
40 MK & Becky Hill - Piece of Me ^

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http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

1 Michael Kiwanuka - Love & Hate 6,126 *
2 Adele - 25 4,813
3 Christine and the Queens - Chaleur Humaine 4,558
4 Biffy Clyro - Ellipsis 4,056
5 Coldplay - A Head Full of Dreams 3,902

6-10
8 Good Charlotte - Youth Authority *
10 Bob Marley and the Wailers - Legend

11-20
14 Jeff Beck - Loud Hailer *
17 James Bay - Chaos and the Calm

21-30


31-40
31 Gregory Porter - Liquid Spirit ^
34 ABBA - Gold ^
33 Bright Light Bright Light - Choreography *
36 Steven Tyler - We're All Somebody From Somewhere *
38 Queen - Greatest Hits ^

Click on the above relevant links.

Posted by: liamk97 Jul 16 2016, 11:15 AM



Tuesday Update Top 40 Only
Missing Data:

Singles

1
2
3
4
5

6-10


11-20


21-30


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Albums

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Posted by: liamk97 Jul 16 2016, 11:15 AM



Wednesday Update Top 40 Only
Source: Music Week
Missing Data:

Singles

1 Drake feat. Wizkid & Kyla - One Dance (36,272)
2 Jonas Blue feat. JP Cooper - Perfect Strangers (34,916)
3 Calum Scott - Dancing On My Own (34,283)
4 The Chainsmokers feat. Daya - Don't Let Me Down (33,211)
5 Clean Bandit feat. Louisa Johnson - Tears (28,892)

6-10
9 Shawn Mendes - Treat You Better

11-20
14 Ariana Grande - Into You
16 Katy Perry - Rise *
20 5 Seconds of Summer - Girls Talk Boys *

21-30
28 Christine and the Queens - Tilted

31-40
31 Britney Spears feat. G-Eazy - Make Me... *
37 Snakehips feat. ZAYN - Cruel *
38 MK & Becky Hill - Piece of Me ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Albums

1 Michael Kiwanuka - Love & Hate (8,368) *
2 Adele - 25 (7,670)
3 Christine and the Queens - Chaleur Humaine (7,256)
4 Drake - Views (6,394)
5 Biffy Clyro - Ellipsis (6,081)

6-10
9 Bob Marley & The Wailers - Legend
10 Good Charlotte - Youth Authority *

11-20
15 Justin Bieber - Purpose
16 twenty one pilots - Blurryface
18 James Bay - Chaos and the Calm
19 Ed Sheeran - x

21-30
21 Jeff Beck - Loud Hailer *
22 Gregory Porter - Take Me to the Alley
26 Sia - This Is Acting
28 Red Hot Chili Peppers - Greatest Hits
29 Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
30 Gregory Porter - Liquid Spirit ^

31-40
32 Abba - Gold: Greatest Hits ^
34 Taylor Swift - 1989 ^
35 Queen - Greatest Hits ^
36 Years & Years - Communion
39 Charlie Puth - Nine Track Mind ^

Posted by: liamk97 Jul 16 2016, 11:15 AM



Thursday Update Top 40 Only
Missing Data:

Singles

1
2
3
4
5

6-10


11-20


21-30


31-40


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Albums

1
2
3
4
5

6-10


11-20


21-30


31-40

Posted by: Ðøßßø Jul 16 2016, 11:17 AM

With One Dance reclimbing on iTunes it seems another week it extremely likely.

I imagine Britney & Katy will both land around #15 mark unless Rise is added to Spotify pronto.

Posted by: liamk97 Jul 16 2016, 11:21 AM

Biffy Clyro's last album Opposites had a second week drop of 65.9% (71,584 to 24,365) - if the same drop happens with this album, they'll be looking at ~13k which might be enough for #1. I imagine Michael Kiwanuka could manage 10k+ too (he seems to have had support from Radio 2; currently Album of the Week) and Adele will probably be above 10k too, so any of those three for #1.

Posted by: Robbie Jul 16 2016, 11:42 AM

Surely it's not another week at the top for Drake? Oh Lord have mercy!

Posted by: Sharpshooter Jul 16 2016, 11:43 AM

What do we think Drake will do? Around 55k? He's dropped 3k on streams last week and data today showed him dropping quite a bit again.

Last week it was 12.2k/42.5k ratio, this week I suspect it will something like 15k/40k. I heard some people think he'll get around 60k but I personally don't reckon that will be the case.

How long does the iTunes 59p effect last? Surely he's going to top out at some point?

Posted by: danG Jul 16 2016, 12:09 PM

QUOTE(Robbie @ Jul 16 2016, 12:42 PM) *
Surely it's not another week at the top for Drake? Oh Lord have mercy!
I think it will be. The Chainsmokers were set to overtake but now Drake's got the 59p effect he's got bigger sales.

Posted by: Mart!n Jul 16 2016, 12:10 PM

QUOTE(Robbie @ Jul 16 2016, 12:42 PM) *
Surely it's not another week at the top for Drake? Oh Lord have mercy!


I think its looking most likely with the track been 59p, but it should be his final week, probably looking at 52k, or less, not far from sales given last night, factoring in the 59p effect.

Posted by: slowdown73 Jul 16 2016, 12:35 PM

I was hoping "rise" would get to no1. Somebody please knock that awful Drake track off the top.

Posted by: danG Jul 16 2016, 12:47 PM

'Rise' may get to #1 eventually, especially if it's heavily used in Olympics coverage. Depends just how big Justin Bieber's new song is.

Posted by: Hadji Jul 16 2016, 02:03 PM

KP is gonna need between 65k & 70k paid for sales if she's gonna topple Drake

Posted by: Rob Spears Jul 16 2016, 02:05 PM

QUOTE(Hadji @ Jul 16 2016, 03:03 PM) *
KP is gonna need between 65k & 70k paid for sales if she's gonna topple Drake

Not gonna happen.

Posted by: Rafael x Jul 16 2016, 03:04 PM

Here for #1 ZAYN

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Posted by: Rob Spears Jul 16 2016, 03:10 PM

QUOTE(Rafael x @ Jul 16 2016, 04:04 PM) *
Here for #1 ZAYN

tongue.gif

Who would have thought that in 2016 Britney would be selling 10x as much as ZAYN on iTunes. biggrin.gif

Posted by: SKOB Jul 16 2016, 03:36 PM

I predict top 20 debut for Katy and top 30 for Britney

Correct me if I'm wrong but Rise is NOT an official song for Olympics. It's just NBC's theme song for Olympics and thus US only.

Posted by: memedh Jul 16 2016, 03:38 PM

I believe you're right. I doubt it'll get much airplay here - we'll probably have an official one that the BBC and the like use.

Posted by: Hassaan Jul 18 2016, 10:29 AM

Depending on how strong Katy Perry's fanbase is, the fact she's not on Spotify might mean she could still top the paid-for sales chart. Calum Scott looks to be staying around the top on iTunes so he could top his #4 peak from last week.

Posted by: Joe. Jul 18 2016, 10:31 AM

I expect top 50 for Britney (unless she continues to pick up on Spotify a bit more over the next two days) and around 20 - 30 for Katy.

Posted by: Dark Horse Jul 18 2016, 10:57 AM

I can't believe Drake is competing with classics such as Love is all around and Everything I do for most weeks at number 1!!!!!
I mean, his song is nothing special, it's just a rehash of some old song and barely deserved a top 10 placing let alone be number 1 for 14 weeks... Streaming has totally ruined the charts and made it stale and boring... I miss the days back in the 90s and early 00s when we used to have 5 or 6 entries in the top 10... Now we get the same songs in the top 10 for 6 months!!!! Awful really...

Posted by: Hassaan Jul 18 2016, 11:04 AM

QUOTE(Dark Horse @ Jul 18 2016, 11:57 AM) *
I can't believe Drake is competing with classics such as Love is all around and Everything I do for most weeks at number 1!!!!!
I mean, his song is nothing special, it's just a rehash of some old song and barely deserved a top 10 placing let alone be number 1 for 14 weeks... Streaming has totally ruined the charts and made it stale and boring... I miss the days back in the 90s and early 00s when we used to have 5 or 6 entries in the top 10... Now we get the same songs in the top 10 for 6 months!!!! Awful really...


Mind you, I'd love to know what the reaction would be if "Everything I Do" was #1 for 16 weeks now. Or if we had social media in 1991.

Posted by: Dark Horse Jul 18 2016, 11:21 AM

QUOTE(Hassaan @ Jul 18 2016, 02:04 PM) *
Mind you, I'd love to know what the reaction would be if "Everything I Do" was #1 for 16 weeks now. Or if we had social media in 1991.


R u really putting the 2 songs on the same level??? There's nothing to compare... Everything I do is a classic ballad/love song and is still airplayed to this day 25 years later, while One Dance is an autotuned mess that will be forgotten in a few months time just like any Drake, Kanye, JayZ song....

Posted by: steveh31 Jul 18 2016, 11:35 AM

QUOTE(Hassaan @ Jul 18 2016, 12:04 PM) *
Mind you, I'd love to know what the reaction would be if "Everything I Do" was #1 for 16 weeks now. Or if we had social media in 1991.

I remember the summer of 1991, I said to my maths teacher in October about how Bryan Adams had been number one before we broke up for summer holiday.

Radio DJ's of the time still have nightmares about playing it today it scarred some of them
laugh.gif

We are becoming used to a slow chart now but in 1991 we were still a few years from enter high and fall and the chart was starting to get faster.

I remember everyone laughing about Bryan Adams t-shirt & jeans look and people genuinely were intrigued by his long run, today most people don't even know what Drake is let alone that he has been number 1 for 14 weeks that is the sad part.

Where is the excitement that there was in 1991 and 1994 it just isn't there.

Posted by: ___∆___ Jul 18 2016, 12:30 PM

There is almost zero interest in Drakes run at the top from the media - If anything I think this will make top bids push for a change in chart rules, a single at #1 potentially breaking a record that is not in the sales Top 10. I know as sales die and streams become dominant we will have streaming #1s but it feels far to early and unbalanced for that yet.

Posted by: Dark Horse Jul 18 2016, 12:42 PM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ Jul 18 2016, 03:30 PM) *
There is almost zero interest in Drakes run at the top from the media - If anything I think this will make top bids push for a change in chart rules, a single at #1 potentially breaking a record that is not in the sales Top 10. I know as sales die and streams become dominant we will have streaming #1s but it feels far to early and unbalanced for that yet.


couldn't agree more.... the Sales chart is far more exciting and fast than the actual official charts, and sales are being overshadowed by streaming : nowadays we get songs reaching the sales top 5 without entering the official top 20, i think the sales/streaming ratio should be altered in favor of sales,
Even if sales are decreasing, they are still decent, since we are getting number 1's selling 35-40 k on average which is not that bad and is comparable to the 2006-2008 period , and i feel that paying for a track should count 1000 times more than streaming a song for free without any intention to pay for it...

Posted by: danG Jul 18 2016, 12:52 PM

QUOTE(Dark Horse @ Jul 18 2016, 01:42 PM) *
couldn't agree more.... the Sales chart is far more exciting and fast than the actual official charts, and sales are being overshadowed by streaming : nowadays we get songs reaching the sales top 5 without entering the official top 20, i think the sales/streaming ratio should be altered in favor of sales,
Even if sales are decreasing, they are still decent, since we are getting number 1's selling 35-40 k on average which is not that bad and is comparable to the 2006-2008 period , and i feel that paying for a track should count 1000 times more than streaming a song for free without any intention to pay for it...

Actually it's more like 25-30k.

Last week's sales #1, Jonas Blue, sold just 28.5k in download sales which is about average for a #1 these days.

The average is only going to go down from there anyway - the takeover of streaming is unstoppable.

Posted by: Hassaan Jul 18 2016, 03:13 PM

QUOTE(Dark Horse @ Jul 18 2016, 12:21 PM) *
R u really putting the 2 songs on the same level??? There's nothing to compare... Everything I do is a classic ballad/love song and is still airplayed to this day 25 years later, while One Dance is an autotuned mess that will be forgotten in a few months time just like any Drake, Kanye, JayZ song....


No I'm not. I'm comparing the fact they've both had really long runs at #1.

Posted by: Hassaan Jul 18 2016, 03:14 PM

QUOTE(steveh31 @ Jul 18 2016, 12:35 PM) *
I remember the summer of 1991, I said to my maths teacher in October about how Bryan Adams had been number one before we broke up for summer holiday.

Radio DJ's of the time still have nightmares about playing it today it scarred some of them
laugh.gif

We are becoming used to a slow chart now but in 1991 we were still a few years from enter high and fall and the chart was starting to get faster.

I remember everyone laughing about Bryan Adams t-shirt & jeans look and people genuinely were intrigued by his long run, today most people don't even know what Drake is let alone that he has been number 1 for 14 weeks that is the sad part.

Where is the excitement that there was in 1991 and 1994 it just isn't there.


Well, it's fair to say that aside from the Christmas No. 1 race, the charts aren't part of the national conversation. Do we think that's down to streaming and people feeling artists don't get a fair shot?

Posted by: Bré Jul 18 2016, 03:18 PM

QUOTE(steveh31 @ Jul 18 2016, 12:35 PM) *
today most people don't even know what Drake is


I think that's probably a slight exaggeration.

Posted by: Moooo Jul 18 2016, 03:44 PM

The singles chart is a joke. Really I'm old fashioned etc etc,, but why add streaming? Seriously. Songs on the chart for 40 - 50 weeks.
As many have said before, it's number one without being top 10 in sales? I know times have moved on etc etc, but c,mon.
Look at the vinyl revival, ok it's not huge but at least it's paid for, if people just keep listening to a song for basically free? How can it really be classed as a sale? At least the album charts reflects some reality.
Also radio stations are manipulating the charts far too long imo, I always said that if a new single from any artist comes out weather they are 16 or 80, they should receive some AirPlay. It's ageism of the highest order, yet the more mature artists will sell concert tickets far better than the cool hip youngsters. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of talented younger artists and bands out there, who deserve all they achieve, but it's all too one sided Imo.
The X factor used to be a prime example, ohh lets get all the cool kids to perform on the live shows, its target audience was misplaced, as it's a family show and mammy and daddy and big bro and sister also watched. Strictly come dancing at least mixed it up, some more established singers got to sing on it also, hence its viewing figures trashing X factors every week.
Look at Rick astley, the album has done well, and there's a half chance of a single denting the chart, but just imagine if radio one had the balls to play it? Yes I know radio two do, but who is to say if it was played to a younger audience that even a small percentage Might just like it? Or any more established singer.
Manipulation is ruling the music world, and we as the consumer are ignoring it

Posted by: JosephStyles Jul 18 2016, 03:51 PM

Guys just a reminder to use the pinned streaming thread to debate this topic! Us mods know it's something everyone feels strongly about it heehee.gif

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jul 18 2016, 03:53 PM

QUOTE(steveh31 @ Jul 18 2016, 12:35 PM) *
I remember the summer of 1991, I said to my maths teacher in October about how Bryan Adams had been number one before we broke up for summer holiday.

Radio DJ's of the time still have nightmares about playing it today it scarred some of them
laugh.gif

We are becoming used to a slow chart now but in 1991 we were still a few years from enter high and fall and the chart was starting to get faster.

I remember everyone laughing about Bryan Adams t-shirt & jeans look and people genuinely were intrigued by his long run, today most people don't even know what Drake is let alone that he has been number 1 for 14 weeks that is the sad part.

Where is the excitement that there was in 1991 and 1994 it just isn't there.


I fully agree with this,Bryan Adams run at number 1 was a huge talking point,charts aren't as powerful any morei

Posted by: SevenSeize Jul 18 2016, 04:19 PM

QUOTE(Moooo @ Jul 18 2016, 04:44 PM) *
The singles chart is a joke. Really I'm old fashioned etc etc,, but why add streaming? Seriously. Songs on the chart for 40 - 50 weeks.
As many have said before, it's number one without being top 10 in sales? I know times have moved on etc etc, but c,mon.
Look at the vinyl revival, ok it's not huge but at least it's paid for, if people just keep listening to a song for basically free? How can it really be classed as a sale? At least the album charts reflects some reality.
Also radio stations are manipulating the charts far too long imo, I always said that if a new single from any artist comes out weather they are 16 or 80, they should receive some AirPlay. It's ageism of the highest order, yet the more mature artists will sell concert tickets far better than the cool hip youngsters. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of talented younger artists and bands out there, who deserve all they achieve, but it's all too one sided Imo.
The X factor used to be a prime example, ohh lets get all the cool kids to perform on the live shows, its target audience was misplaced, as it's a family show and mammy and daddy and big bro and sister also watched. Strictly come dancing at least mixed it up, some more established singers got to sing on it also, hence its viewing figures trashing X factors every week.
Look at Rick astley, the album has done well, and there's a half chance of a single denting the chart, but just imagine if radio one had the balls to play it? Yes I know radio two do, but who is to say if it was played to a younger audience that even a small percentage Might just like it? Or any more established singer.
Manipulation is ruling the music world, and we as the consumer are ignoring it

1. The singles chart WOULD be a joke if it didn't include streaming, it has to keep up with the times, and if it weren't there we'd have low-selling #1s on a consistent basis (but I guess if it keeps the "chart traditionalists" happy then all is fine with the world~)

2. Do X Factor bringing on Michael Bublé (someone that appeals to those older viewers) most years not count? :')

also- "AirPlay" Bré agog :''''')

3. It's nothing to do with Radio 1 'having the balls', they're catering to a specific age demographic, and Rick Astley simply doesn't fit in with that

-x-

anyhow back on topic- Michael Kiwanuka to slay the album chart cheer.gif

Posted by: JosephStyles Jul 18 2016, 04:22 PM



Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100
Source: OCC
Missing Data:

I will edit this as and when we have info! R1 chart update at 5:30, full top 100s from 5:45.

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart-update/

1 Drake feat. Wizkid & Kyla - One Dance 20,435
2 Jonas Blue feat. JP Cooper - Perfect Stangers 20,219
3 Calum Scott - Dancing On My Own 20,112
4 The Chainsmokers feat. Daya - Don't Let Me Down 19,102
5 Clean Bandit feat. Louisa Johnson - Tears 17,453

6-10
9 Shawn Mendes - Treat You Better

11-20
12 5 Seconds of Summer - Girls Talk Boys *
13 Katy Perry - Rise *
20 MØ - Final Song

21-30
22 Britney Spears feat. G-Eazy - Make Me... *
29 Christine and the Queens - Tilted

31-40
36 Snakehips feat. ZAYN - Cruel *
40 MK & Becky Hill - Piece of Me ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

1 Michael Kiwanuka - Love & Hate 6,126 *
2 Adele - 25 4,813
3 Christine and the Queens - Chaleur Humaine 4,558
4 Biffy Clyro - Ellipsis 4,056
5 Coldplay - A Head Full of Dreams 3,902

6-10
8 Good Charlotte - Youth Authority *
10 Bob Marley and the Wailers - Legend

11-20
14 Jeff Beck - Loud Hailer *
17 James Bay - Chaos and the Calm

21-30


31-40
31 Gregory Porter - Liquid Spirit ^
34 ABBA - Gold ^
33 Bright Light Bright Light - Choreography *
36 Steven Tyler - We're All Somebody From Somewhere *
38 Queen - Greatest Hits ^

Click on the above relevant links.

Posted by: 360Jupiter Jul 18 2016, 04:37 PM

'The chart' just isn't a talking point any more as big as it used to be. And to be fair... it's only a marker of what other people are buying or consuming. Given that society has shifted in many other ways towards personal choice and caring about what you yourself, rather than other people, buy, consume and enjoy, i's not actually that surprising that less people care about it. Especially younger people who've grown up always with that backdrop.

Posted by: Moooo Jul 18 2016, 04:40 PM

QUOTE(SevenSeize @ Jul 18 2016, 05:19 PM) *
1. The singles chart WOULD be a joke if it didn't include streaming, it has to keep up with the times, and if it weren't there we'd have low-selling #1s on a consistent basis (but I guess if it keeps the "chart traditionalists" happy then all is fine with the world~)

2. Do X Factor bringing on Michael Bublé (someone that appeals to those older viewers) most years not count? :')

also- "AirPlay" Bré agog :''''')

3. It's nothing to do with Radio 1 'having the balls', they're catering to a specific age demographic, and Rick Astley simply doesn't fit in with that

-x-

anyhow back on topic- Michael Kiwanuka to slay the album chart cheer.gif


And I respect your opinion, but a chart should be paid for sales, end of.



Posted by: meme Jul 18 2016, 04:44 PM

It shouldn't though?? There's no reflection of a songs popularity in sales - if anything streaming should have always been included. The current chart represents the most popular music around at the moment, I don't see why it's a bad thing?

Posted by: cqmerqn Jul 18 2016, 04:46 PM

OMG!! Can Jonas Blue do it this week? Drake is only a few sales ahead and the 59p effect will wear off soon

Posted by: Common Sense Jul 18 2016, 04:47 PM

Is the Bob Marley album on sale somewhere to justify that high re-entry?

Posted by: meme Jul 18 2016, 04:49 PM

QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jul 18 2016, 05:47 PM) *
Is the Bob Marley album on sale somewhere to justify that high re-entry?


Probably because of Is This Love Remix that's getting big right now from LVNDSCAPE.

Posted by: Moooo Jul 18 2016, 04:49 PM

QUOTE(meme @ Jul 18 2016, 05:44 PM) *
It shouldn't though?? There's no reflection of a songs popularity in sales - if anything streaming should have always been included. The current chart represents the most popular music around at the moment, I don't see why it's a bad thing?


But surely if you pay for something? It means you really like it?
I understand streaming, I do. But from a chart point of view it's = zzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: gooddelta Jul 18 2016, 04:50 PM

QUOTE(cqmerqn @ Jul 18 2016, 05:46 PM) *
OMG!! Can Jonas Blue do it this week? Drake is only a few sales ahead and the 59p effect will wear off soon


Sunday streaming data will be missing so Drake will be at least 2k further ahead than the initial figures suggest I would imagine.

Posted by: liamk97 Jul 18 2016, 04:51 PM

Music Week says Drake is on 20,485 in the singles whilst Michael Kiwanuka is on 6,126 in the albums...wa wa whoops!

Posted by: Rob Spears Jul 18 2016, 04:52 PM

MM has to go Top 10, otherwise it will break her run of lead singles peaking in the Top 10. I guess it still has time though...

Posted by: Moooo Jul 18 2016, 04:53 PM

So Adele and drake cruising to number one

Posted by: slowdown73 Jul 18 2016, 04:54 PM

Streaming has changed the pace of the chart by considerably slowing down chart movement and increasing chart longevity. Drake has only managed to cling on to number one for so long due to a weak release schedule and heavy streaming sales, his physical sales aren't even top 10. Bryan Adams record stay at no1 for 16 weeks was based purely on physical sales so even if Drake does match that, his achievement isn't quite in the same league.


Posted by: PeteFromLeeds Jul 18 2016, 04:56 PM

Surprised to see Cruel so high ohmy.gif not a fan but it's better than any song ZAYN has made by himself.

Mama Said at #43! Hope that can climb a few places by Friday

Posted by: No Sleeep Jul 18 2016, 04:57 PM

QUOTE(Rob Spears @ Jul 18 2016, 05:52 PM) *
MM has to go Top 10, otherwise it will break her run of lead singles peaking in the Top 10. I guess it still has time though...


Hopefully streaming picks up.

I'm worried that radio stations (mainly Capital) will see it falling on iTunes and stop playing it though cry.gif

Posted by: Moooo Jul 18 2016, 04:58 PM

QUOTE(slowdown73 @ Jul 18 2016, 05:54 PM) *
Streaming has changed the pace of the chart by considerably slowing down chart movement and increasing chart longevity. Drake has only managed to cling on to number one for so long due to a weak release schedule and heavy streaming sales, his physical sales aren't even top 10. Bryan Adams record stay at no1 for 16 weeks was based purely on physical sales so even if Drake does match that, his achievement isn't quite in the same league.


Exactly

Posted by: khali25 Jul 18 2016, 04:58 PM

Yes. Everybody hating on Drake saying the song is insignificant + every excuse you can come up with under the sun. This song is number one in like 13 countries round the world and breaking records in America, New Zealand and Australia to mention a few. One Dance is one of the best singles released in a very long time and most of the world agree.

Get in there drizzy - 15 weeks record will be broken next week and then we going for the record. OVO Unruly all day. Jheeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: Bré Jul 18 2016, 05:14 PM

Amazed that Michael Kiwanuka has managed a midweek #1 album! How has he maintained any level of relevance this long after his debut?

Posted by: slowdown73 Jul 18 2016, 05:35 PM

QUOTE(khali25 @ Jul 18 2016, 05:58 PM) *
Yes. Everybody hating on Drake saying the song is insignificant + every excuse you can come up with under the sun. This song is number one in like 13 countries round the world and breaking records in America, New Zealand and Australia to mention a few. One Dance is one of the best singles released in a very long time and most of the world agree.

Get in there drizzy - 15 weeks record will be broken next week and then we going for the record. OVO Unruly all day. Jheeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


It really is a matter of opinion about it being one of the best singles in a long time. I think it's an awful song and know quite a few other people who don't like it too.

Posted by: steveh31 Jul 18 2016, 05:38 PM

QUOTE(slowdown73 @ Jul 18 2016, 06:35 PM) *
It really is a matter of opinion about it being one of the best singles in a long time. I think it's an awful song and know quite a few other people who don't like it too.

I don't think it's the worst song ever, but it is far, far from being the best ever, maybe that is it's secret that it is so middling that it appeals to people broadly.

It may never appear on anyone's top 10 of all time but it will never be in there bottom 10 either and that is the secret.

Posted by: Ethan Jul 18 2016, 05:41 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jul 18 2016, 05:14 PM) *
Amazed that Michael Kiwanuka has managed a midweek #1 album! How has he maintained any level of relevance this long after his debut?


pj harvey showed in such a low sales environment even niche acts have a shot at #1 in quiet weeks~

Posted by: Doctor Blind Jul 18 2016, 05:46 PM

QUOTE(Ethan @ Jul 18 2016, 06:41 PM) *
pj harvey showed in such a low sales environment even niche acts have a shot at #1 in quiet weeks~


Exactly - plus he played the main stage at Latitude on Sunday afternoon and it sounded quite good. Plus: produced by Danger Mouse which is a definite bonus!

Posted by: danG Jul 18 2016, 05:49 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jul 18 2016, 06:14 PM) *
Amazed that Michael Kiwanuka has managed a midweek #1 album! How has he maintained any level of relevance this long after his debut?

Radio 2 are giving him a lot of airplay I believe.

Posted by: Bré Jul 18 2016, 05:59 PM

QUOTE(Ethan @ Jul 18 2016, 06:41 PM) *
pj harvey showed in such a low sales environment even niche acts have a shot at #1 in quiet weeks~


She's a far more established artist though. Kiwanuka released one previous album ages ago and it was a flop relative to the amount of hype he had with the Sound of win. I wouldn't have predicted his new album would even be top 20!

Posted by: SKOB Jul 18 2016, 06:55 PM

QUOTE(Dark Horse @ Jul 18 2016, 12:21 PM) *
R u really putting the 2 songs on the same level??? There's nothing to compare... Everything I do is a classic ballad/love song and is still airplayed to this day 25 years later, while One Dance is an autotuned mess that will be forgotten in a few months time just like any Drake, Kanye, JayZ song....


LOL WHAT?

We get that that you don't like rap but that's ridiculous

Regarding the midweeks; So proud of Christine and the Queens, amazing album, amazing success already!

Posted by: PeteFromLeeds Jul 18 2016, 07:58 PM

QUOTE(steveh31 @ Jul 18 2016, 06:38 PM) *
I don't think it's the worst song ever, but it is far, far from being the best ever, maybe that is it's secret that it is so middling that it appeals to people broadly.

It may never appear on anyone's top 10 of all time but it will never be in there bottom 10 either and that is the secret.


It's on mine laugh.gif

Posted by: steveh31 Jul 18 2016, 08:07 PM

QUOTE(PeteFromLeeds @ Jul 18 2016, 08:58 PM) *
It's on mine laugh.gif

You are from Leeds so you the exception as people from Leeds are biggrin.gif wink.gif

Posted by: khali25 Jul 18 2016, 08:20 PM

QUOTE(slowdown73 @ Jul 18 2016, 06:35 PM) *
It really is a matter of opinion about it being one of the best singles in a long time. I think it's an awful song and know quite a few other people who don't like it too.


Well you are definitely in the minority because the charts worldwide say otherwise.

Posted by: khali25 Jul 18 2016, 08:21 PM

QUOTE(steveh31 @ Jul 18 2016, 09:07 PM) *
You are from Leeds so you the exception as people from Leeds are biggrin.gif wink.gif


ooooooh i like that (DJ KHALED VOICE)

Couldn't have said it better myself

Posted by: GTH Jul 18 2016, 08:44 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Jul 18 2016, 06:59 PM) *
She's a far more established artist though. Kiwanuka released one previous album ages ago and it was a flop relative to the amount of hype he had with the Sound of win. I wouldn't have predicted his new album would even be top 20!

He has got quite a bit of critical praise for it as well, which alongside good radio 2 support is usually enough of an incentive for some to give it a go.

Posted by: Moooo Jul 18 2016, 09:23 PM

QUOTE(khali25 @ Jul 18 2016, 09:20 PM) *
Well you are definitely in the minority because the charts worldwide say otherwise.


Popular doesn't = always mean good,

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jul 18 2016, 11:17 PM

Love, hate, like or dislike the Drake song ( I hate it) it is very popular right now, but I would safely bet the song will never be heard in 5 years time and most people will never remember it. There s nothing classic about the song at all and it would be an insult to the chart history books if this song ends up the longest running number 1 ever.

Bryan Adams everything I do is a song that is still remembered to this day and still gets played on radio stations, at weddings, events etc ( never loved or hated the song myself and likewise now). Do the people that think the Drake song is brilliant honestly believe it will be played on radio, at weddings etc in years to come?

Like or hate the Bryan Adams song it has certainly proved why it was and is the longest running number 1 as its seen as a classic.

Posted by: Moooo Jul 18 2016, 11:40 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Jul 19 2016, 12:17 AM) *
Love, hate, like or dislike the Drake song ( I hate it) it is very popular right now, but I would safely bet the song will never be heard in 5 years time and most people will never remember it. There s nothing classic about the song at all and it would be an insult to the chart history books if this song ends up the longest running number 1 ever.

Bryan Adams everything I do is a song that is still remembered to this day and still gets played on radio stations, at weddings, events etc ( never loved or hated the song myself and likewise now). Do the people that think the Drake song is brilliant honestly believe it will be played on radio, at weddings etc in years to come?

Like or hate the Bryan Adams song it has certainly proved why it was and is the longest running number 1 as its seen as a classic.


yahoo.gif

Posted by: 360Jupiter Jul 18 2016, 11:54 PM

Everyone said the same things about Gnarls Barkley Crazy and Umbrella...

Posted by: Chez Wombat Jul 19 2016, 12:14 AM

QUOTE(360Jupiter @ Jul 19 2016, 12:54 AM) *
Everyone said the same things about Gnarls Barkley Crazy and Umbrella...


I wouldn't say so, I mean I wasn't as clued up back then and some of their weeks may have been by default, but they definitely had a lot more cultural impact (though Umbrella is somewhat overshadowed by what followed in her discography) and were radio staples, you could instantly tell they were smash hits in the making and were some of the defining songs of their respective years that still hold up today. I just don't think One Dance is the same as he's had much more impactful singles in his discography that I would say it's very unlikely it will be remembered in five-ten years (apart from being the song that clearly showed how big effect a well streamed song can have).

Posted by: Dircadirca Jul 19 2016, 05:01 AM

Well if "One Dance" is as forgettable as any Kanye West or Jay-Z song I'm sure it'll do fine. After all, "Ni**as In Paris" is still in the top 200 on Spotify and getting more streams now than ever. That song is 4 years, 11 months & 2 weeks old. I guess everyone will stop listening to it in a fortnight.

Posted by: khali25 Jul 19 2016, 07:29 AM

Once again its all about demographics - for some One Dance will be remembered for years to come. I have not heard Bryan Adams everything I do in the last decade. Why? because it is just never played in any scene i go to. Regardless it is a fantastic song and i still give it props.

Jay Z and Kanye songs are forgotten? Once again that's an inaccurate statement - they may be forgotten in your world - Even JAY Zs first album (Reasonable Doubt) from the 90s is played heavily in some circles. Dont even get me started on Kanye - his songs from the late 2000s are still in heavy rotation.

I for one am just happy that I can appreciate music from all genres.


Posted by: meme Jul 19 2016, 07:36 AM

I'm not trying to be ageist or whatever, but in 20 years time the Drake song WILL be remembered by mostly everyone of an adult age. The majority of you moaning were teenagers or kids when Bryan Adams was at number one - hence why you remember the song so well!

I am a teenager and I can safely say that One Dance will go down as a classic for my generation, for years to come.

The charts have always been mostly influenced by a young generation, One Dance's success is just another example of that.

Y'all need to stop moaning, just accept the fact One Dance has been the most successful song of recent times.

Posted by: ML Hammer95 Jul 19 2016, 07:50 AM

Agree wholeheartedly with the last two posts... To say Drake, Jay Z and Kanye tracks are all forgettable is blatantly ridiculous.

Posted by: steveh31 Jul 19 2016, 07:57 AM

QUOTE(ML Hammer95 @ Jul 19 2016, 08:50 AM) *
Agree wholeheartedly with the last two posts... To say Drake, Jay Z and Kanye tracks are all forgettable is blatantly ridiculous.

To most people in the street they are forgettable, go and ask people in the street to name a Drake, JayZ or Kanye song or even ask if they know who they are see what repsonse you get?

Then ask people in the street to name a Cliff Richard, Rod Stewart or Boyzone song and I bet you will get a different response.

Posted by: Dircadirca Jul 19 2016, 08:24 AM

QUOTE(steveh31 @ Jul 19 2016, 03:57 PM) *
To most people in the street they are forgettable, go and ask people in the street to name a Drake, JayZ or Kanye song or even ask if they know who they are see what repsonse you get?

Then ask people in the street to name a Cliff Richard, Rod Stewart or Boyzone song and I bet you will get a different response.

Surely it's largely dependent on the age of the person you're asking. Boyzone for instance last had a major hit in my country 18 years ago, so it's entirely reasonable that a lot of 25 year olds couldn't name one of their songs. In 20 years time those 25 year olds will be 45 year olds and have no reason to have learnt the names of any of their songs in those intervening years, but I'm sure they'll remember "Gold Digger", "Empire State Of Mind" etc.

Neither set of artists is inherently forgettable, they just mean different things to different generations.

Posted by: danG Jul 19 2016, 08:30 AM

indeed.

If you asked people in the 12-25 age bracket, a good percentage of them would be able to name Drake, Kanye and Jay songs (also Rihanna, Beyoncé, Justin Bieber, Ed Sheeran, Adele and Calvin Harris).

Posted by: *Ben* Jul 19 2016, 08:38 AM

I find the argument which song will be remembered or not ridiculous. Who can foresee what will come in 20 years?
But normally from a statistical point of view One Dance will surely be remembered.

On the other hand there were a couple of years ago songs I thought will be remembered and I forgot already and they don't get played whilst other songs are being played and I thought they are forgettable. laugh.gif

Posted by: Dircadirca Jul 19 2016, 08:47 AM

I promise I'll stop posting on the matter after this, but one more thing I want to add is that "One Dance" doesn't have a video yet, and if/when it does, that could add a whole new layer to it. I mean "Hotline Bling" was already shaping up as a big hit under similar circumstances to "One Dance", but then the video happened and pretty much cemented itself as the focal point of the song, turning it into one of the most widely known songs of the year. Won't necessarily happen to "One Dance" but I'll reserve my judgement until the whole story is over.

Posted by: Bjork Jul 19 2016, 08:52 AM

I personally think One Dance will be remembered... but also think Hotline Bling will be better remembered than One Dance

Posted by: iain Jul 19 2016, 09:16 AM

In the past when a song has spent 10+ weeks at no. 1 it has meant that it has broken out of a certain demographic, and everybody knows it regardless of age. I'm thinking songs like Uptown Funk and Happy (and yes, I know they didn't spend 10 weeks at no 1). I just don't see that One Dance has broken out of it's target demographic, which is really evidenced by the fact that it has held on to no 1 for so long beacuse of streaming.

Posted by: danG Jul 19 2016, 09:25 AM

well even if 'One Dance' hasn't broken outside its target demographic - the charts aren't a measure of the most cross-appealing songs, they're a measure of most consumed songs - and within the demographic of Spotify users, 'One Dance' is just massively popular. It's the kind of popularity that you rarely see too, it's quite amazing how its managed to stabilise at such high streams for such a long time.

Posted by: liamk97 Jul 19 2016, 09:48 AM

QUOTE(iain @ Jul 19 2016, 10:16 AM) *
In the past when a song has spent 10+ weeks at no. 1 it has meant that it has broken out of a certain demographic, and everybody knows it regardless of age. I'm thinking songs like Uptown Funk and Happy (and yes, I know they didn't spend 10 weeks at no 1). I just don't see that One Dance has broken out of it's target demographic, which is really evidenced by the fact that it has held on to no 1 for so long beacuse of streaming.

This is what I think too really. My dad didn't have a clue how 'One Dance' went but he'd be able to recognise 'Umbrella', 'Uptown Funk', 'Happy', 'Crazy' etc. They appealed to people across the ages and they had cultural impact whereas, as has been said, 'One Dance' seems to be only invested in by a certain young demographic and seemingly more specifically those who use Spotify. That said, I'm 18 years old and, whilst I know people who do like the song, I can't say I've picked up on a strong love for it. It does seem to be a song that people like when they hear it on radio or in the club but it's not referred to otherwise. I remember people going mad for 'Uptown Funk', learning the dance moves and citing lyrics whenever they felt appropriate, and that just doesn't happen with 'One Dance'. There's no denying it is a very popular song - the facts are there to prove so - but it doesn't hit the right criteria that's applied to long running #1s, which does lead me to believe that when radio stop playing it so much, it will become '''forgotten'''.

Posted by: iain Jul 19 2016, 09:51 AM

I think we'll find songs staying at no 1 for weeks and weeks will become the norm now.

Posted by: Bjork Jul 19 2016, 09:54 AM

I reckon the occ will change the rules any day now to try and make the charts faster

Posted by: girl_from_oz Jul 19 2016, 10:58 AM

I think they shouldn't use playlists towards the charts because people aren't always intentially listening to the song, it could just be playing in the background

Posted by: Hassaan Jul 19 2016, 11:26 AM

Chances of Calum Scott making #3 or #2 this week?

Posted by: Mart!n Jul 19 2016, 12:09 PM

I'm going to jump on the bandwagon regarding One Dance, I think it will be remembered as a chart statistic record more than anything along with Bryan Adams and Wet Wet Wet as these tracks have spend longer at #1 more than anything, but as Liam said on the previous page its not a song like Uptown Funk with a beat that you can get into and dance with it. Now One Dance is there by default, as no other artist has attempted to release something more catchy in the past month, I know we had JT, Calvin etc etc hogging the top 3 for some time, but that was in the early stage of One Dance being at #1.

And what are the chances with X Factor looming soon, that someone will do their own interpretation of One Dance which could send it back to #1 on a low sales week drama.gif sleep.gif

Posted by: SKOB Jul 19 2016, 12:24 PM

How many of you remembers I Believe by Frankie Laine btw? I bet there's a song that doesn't really ring bells on street gallup biggrin.gif

Posted by: Mango Jul 19 2016, 01:15 PM

QUOTE(girl_from_oz @ Jul 19 2016, 11:58 AM) *
I think they shouldn't use playlists towards the charts because people aren't always intentially listening to the song, it could just be playing in the background

I kind of agree with this as it will be the case a lot of the time, but how do you distinguish between that and when someone is intentionally listening to a playlist for the songs on it?

Posted by: Moooo Jul 19 2016, 03:50 PM

QUOTE(iain @ Jul 19 2016, 10:16 AM) *
In the past when a song has spent 10+ weeks at no. 1 it has meant that it has broken out of a certain demographic, and everybody knows it regardless of age. I'm thinking songs like Uptown Funk and Happy (and yes, I know they didn't spend 10 weeks at no 1). I just don't see that One Dance has broken out of it's target demographic, which is really evidenced by the fact that it has held on to no 1 for so long beacuse of streaming.


Perfect. Full stop

Weather we like or don't like one dance, do most of us agree that the chart is too bloody slow?

Posted by: No Sleeep Jul 19 2016, 04:07 PM

QUOTE(steveh31 @ Jul 19 2016, 08:57 AM) *
To most people in the street they are forgettable, go and ask people in the street to name a Drake, JayZ or Kanye song or even ask if they know who they are see what repsonse you get?

Then ask people in the street to name a Cliff Richard, Rod Stewart or Boyzone song and I bet you will get a different response.


I'm not even a big fan of rap (besides Nicki Minaj and Lil' Kim tongue.gif) and I can name loads of Drake, Jay Z and Kanye songs.

I only know one Cliff Richard song (it's a Christmas song), one Rod Stewart song (because of Sheryl Crow) and I can think of about one Boyzone song as well off the top of my head.

Who are these people in the street? I would be seriously concerned if somebody wasn't even vaguely aware of Kanye or Jay Z huh.gif

Posted by: girl_from_oz Jul 19 2016, 04:11 PM

QUOTE(Mango @ Jul 19 2016, 02:15 PM) *
I kind of agree with this as it will be the case a lot of the time, but how do you distinguish between that and when someone is intentionally listening to a playlist for the songs on it?



Who knows, that's the truoble, I guess the other scenario,is you take the song off the main playlists after a certain amount of weeks and just have them on more specialist ones. But even taking that into affect its still crazy how long that song has been number one for, some are saying it's because there isn't a video

Posted by: Moooo Jul 19 2016, 04:11 PM

QUOTE(No Sleeep @ Jul 19 2016, 05:07 PM) *
I'm not even a big fan of rap (besides Nicki Minaj and Lil' Kim tongue.gif) and I can name loads of Drake, Jay Z and Kanye songs.

I only know one Cliff Richard song (it's a Christmas song), one Rod Stewart song (because of Sheryl Crow) and I can think of about one Boyzone song as well off the top of my head.

Who are these people in the street? I would be seriously concerned if somebody wasn't even vaguely aware of Kanye or Jay Z huh.gif

Fair point, but would it be for their music or who they are married to?


Posted by: rundmck Jul 19 2016, 04:22 PM

QUOTE(No Sleeep @ Jul 19 2016, 05:07 PM) *
I'm not even a big fan of rap (besides Nicki Minaj and Lil' Kim tongue.gif) and I can name loads of Drake, Jay Z and Kanye songs.

I only know one Cliff Richard song (it's a Christmas song), one Rod Stewart song (because of Sheryl Crow) and I can think of about one Boyzone song as well off the top of my head.

Who are these people in the street? I would be seriously concerned if somebody wasn't even vaguely aware of Kanye or Jay Z huh.gif

You would be 'seriously concerned'?
I'm pretty sure neither my parents or brother would have ever heard of them, but I don't want you to worry, they're coping OK tongue.gif

Posted by: Sharpshooter Jul 19 2016, 04:23 PM

Looks like Drake will breaking 60k this week, not only because of the 59p effect but his streams have picked up for whatever reason.

Posted by: Dark Horse Jul 19 2016, 04:27 PM

QUOTE(No Sleeep @ Jul 19 2016, 06:07 PM) *
I'm not even a big fan of rap (besides Nicki Minaj and Lil' Kim tongue.gif) and I can name loads of Drake, Jay Z and Kanye songs.

I only know one Cliff Richard song (it's a Christmas song), one Rod Stewart song (because of Sheryl Crow) and I can think of about one Boyzone song as well off the top of my head.

Who are these people in the street? I would be seriously concerned if somebody wasn't even vaguely aware of Kanye or Jay Z huh.gif


Cliff Richard's songs are played everywhere in the world and still to this day, i live in Lebanon and his 'Congratulations' song keeps getting played at every wedding party or graduation, not to mention his Christmas songs... Rod Stewart has released some of the most classic songs of the 70s and 80s that are still airplayed and performed all over the globe... As for Jay Z and Kanye and Drake, i don't think they will be remembered as stand alone artists, since most of their songs are collaborations...

Posted by: JosephStyles Jul 19 2016, 04:30 PM

Cliff and Rod are totally incomparable to Kanye and Jay Z anyway because they have TOTALLY different audiences, so I'm not sure why this debate is happening laugh.gif The latter two are hugely influential in the world of rap, and although they are perhaps more niche beyond a few songs, they are still massively popular.

Posted by: #00274E Jul 19 2016, 04:31 PM

this whole discussion is a mess

Posted by: Iz~ Jul 19 2016, 04:37 PM

QUOTE(SKOB @ Jul 19 2016, 01:24 PM) *
How many of you remembers I Believe by Frankie Laine btw? I bet there's a song that doesn't really ring bells on street gallup biggrin.gif


Aye. Wet Wet Wet too really, that seems a more natural comparison on ability to be remembered than to Bryan Adams. I don't get any feeling One Dance is impacting popular culture, but I could say the same for all the songs below him too. It's not a very inspiring time for music.

(plus I still have no idea why it's Drake of all people that's got such popularity when his songs get more monotone the more you listen to him but that's just my personal taste, I guess most of the other long-runners are dull songs too)

Posted by: Ethan Jul 19 2016, 05:40 PM

with ‘one dance’ are we not witnessing a new phenomenon of songs finding enormous popularity on a regional scale rather than a national one? there are more drake listeners in London than anywhere else on the planet, are the more globalized metropolitan areas of the UK foisting a #1 on the rest of the country that is left scratching its head at the songs level of popularity?! If so, what an appropriate soundtrack to the last 15 weeks! *.*

Posted by: danG Jul 19 2016, 05:46 PM

didn't realise Drake was more popular in London than everywhere else, I'd assumed his popularity would be greatest in the US

Posted by: tgl92 Jul 19 2016, 05:54 PM

Number 2 is the new number 1

Posted by: Dircadirca Jul 19 2016, 06:45 PM

QUOTE(danG @ Jul 20 2016, 01:46 AM) *
didn't realise Drake was more popular in London than everywhere else, I'd assumed his popularity would be greatest in the US

I believe London's population is slightly higher than any US city so that might be partly why.

Posted by: Ethan Jul 19 2016, 07:16 PM

QUOTE(Dircadirca @ Jul 19 2016, 06:45 PM) *
I believe London's population is slightly higher than any US city so that might be partly why.


Spotify breaks Greater London down into smaller chunks e.g. Barnet, Bromley, Croydon, Enfield, Ilford, etc~

Posted by: zenon Jul 19 2016, 08:52 PM

QUOTE(danG @ Jul 19 2016, 06:46 PM) *
didn't realise Drake was more popular in London than everywhere else, I'd assumed his popularity would be greatest in the US


Not forgetting he's actually Canadian.

Posted by: bobmoo79 Jul 20 2016, 09:58 AM

I've always said it's madness to include streams and sales in the same chart. Now the chart is in a mess and that is what was predicted years ago. The two are not comparable at all and no amount of streams will ever really equate to a sale of a song.
They should have kept sales and streaming charts separate but they wanted to reflect the changing tastes of music consumption. Fine. But there is a better way (IMO). If sales are dying then allow that to be reflected in it's own chart. If streams are surging then allow that to be reflected in it's own chart. For a song to truly #1 it would then have to top both the streaming and sales chart in the same week. In boxing term it would be "the undisputed champion" of the UK chart!
What we currently have is a song that is topping the streaming chart but not troubling the top of the sales chart and being declared "#1" for weeks on end when in fact it isn't. The song has been added to so many playlists due to it's strong performance on the chart, particularly in the first few weeks and will no doubt be picking up many 'sales' because people can't be arsed to skip it. Sure that applies to other songs too, but this just goes to prove my point. Somebody's active choice to purchase a song, parting with their hard earned money to own a piece of music does not, and will never, be comparable with somebody streaming something for free, by accident, or through laziness just because it's on a playlist.

Posted by: Doctor Blind Jul 20 2016, 10:01 AM


One thing I do agree on is that streaming should NOT be incorporated into the album chart - it has zero compatibility with it and is being used merely to artificially boost sales of a dying medium.

Posted by: FleetSeb Jul 20 2016, 10:45 AM

QUOTE(Ethan @ Jul 19 2016, 06:40 PM) *
with ‘one dance’ are we not witnessing a new phenomenon of songs finding enormous popularity on a regional scale rather than a national one? there are more drake listeners in London than anywhere else on the planet, are the more globalized metropolitan areas of the UK foisting a #1 on the rest of the country that is left scratching its head at the songs level of popularity?! If so, what an appropriate soundtrack to the last 15 weeks! *.*


Except in that case the rest of the idiotic country is foisting a terrible idea on the metropolitan areas of the UK based on some ill-founded and tired notion of Britishness. And ruining the country in the process.

Anyway, Drake's song is played a lot, he's one of the biggest artists in the world right now and I think he will be remembered.

Posted by: Joe. Jul 20 2016, 12:34 PM



Tuesday Update Top 40 Only
Source: Music Week
Missing Data:

Singles

1 Drake feat. Wizkid & Kyla - One Dance (28.3k)
2 Calum Scott - Dancing On My Own (27.5k)
3 Jonas Blue feat. JP Cooper - Perfect Stangers (27.4k)
4 The Chainsmokers feat. Daya - Don't Let Me Down (26.1k)
5 Clean Bandit feat. Louisa Johnson - Tears (23.1k)

6-10
9 Shawn Mendes - Treat You Better

11-20
14 Katy Perry - Rise *
15 Ariana Grande - Into You
16 5 Seconds of Summer - Girls Talk Boys *
20 MØ - Final Song

21-30
28 Britney Spears feat. G-Eazy - Make Me... *
29 Christine and the Queens - Tilted

31-40
37 Snakehips feat. ZAYN - Cruel *
40 MK & Becky Hill - Piece of Me ^

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Top 100 Albums

1 Michael Kiwanuka - Love & Hate (7.2k)
2 Adele - (6.3k)
3 Christine and the Queens - Chaleur Humaine (6k)
4 Biffy Clyro - Ellipsis (5.2k)
5 Coldplay - A Head Full of Dreams (5k)

6-10
8 Good Charlotte - Youth Authority *
10 Bob Marley and the Wailers - Legend

11-20
15 Jeff Beck - Loud Hailer *
19 James Bay - Chaos and the Calm

21-30
28 Red Hot Chili Peppers - Greatest Hits
29 Amy Winehouse - Back to Black

31-40
31 Gregory Porter - Liquid Spirit ^
33 ABBA - Gold ^
34 Taylor Swift - 1989
35 Queen - Greatest Hits ^
37 Years & Years - Communion
38 Charlie Puth - Nine Track mind

Posted by: gavindeejay Jul 20 2016, 01:00 PM

Looks like we'll be lucky to get 10k for the Number 1 album this week.

Posted by: Hassaan Jul 20 2016, 01:11 PM

Could Calum Scott challenge Drake for #1?

Posted by: edneyguerra Jul 20 2016, 01:12 PM

infos about kill em with kindness?

Posted by: Mart!n Jul 20 2016, 01:16 PM

Don't forget guys the above update is for yesterday, it will become more clearer tonight when the new update comes in from MW.

Posted by: SKOB Jul 20 2016, 01:19 PM

So that iTunes pricing really will earn Drake another week at #1. Clever!

Posted by: Hadji Jul 20 2016, 01:23 PM

I think Drake paid iTunes to discount the song. In a way, I'm glad it ain't on NOW 94 otherwise it would be at the top even longer

Posted by: Rafael x Jul 20 2016, 01:33 PM

good for katy

Posted by: timjimlee Jul 20 2016, 01:45 PM

QUOTE(gavindeejay @ Jul 20 2016, 02:00 PM) *
Looks like we'll be lucky to get 10k for the Number 1 album this week.

As this is Tuesday's update and Adele sold approx 1.5k on Monday, Adele will get more than 10k (especially as there will be streams missing as well).
On a pro-rata basis Michael Kiwanuka and Christine & The Queens should make more than 10k as well.
In fact Christine & The Queens may not be that far away from the top if they can get a boost from somewhere (they seem to have sold the same as Adele on Monday)...

Posted by: 777666jason Jul 20 2016, 02:35 PM

Amy winehouse resurgence did i miss something ?

Almost got my hopes up calm Scott creeping up on drake but drakes actually pulling away

Posted by: zenon Jul 20 2016, 02:37 PM

QUOTE(777666jason @ Jul 20 2016, 03:35 PM) *
Amy winehouse resurgence did i miss something ?


5th anniversary of her death this weekend.

Posted by: SevenSeize Jul 20 2016, 02:45 PM

Great to see Christine on the climb (on both the singles and albums chart)!

Posted by: Doctor Blind Jul 20 2016, 04:46 PM

Drake still at number 1 today on 36,272.

Jonas Blue are about 1.4K adrift and very unlikely to rally into a lead by Friday - fifteenth week it is! ohmy.gif

Posted by: JosephStyles Jul 20 2016, 04:52 PM

Full update incoming ~

Posted by: JosephStyles Jul 20 2016, 05:04 PM



Wednesday Update Top 40 Only
Source: Music Week
Missing Data:

Singles

1 Drake feat. Wizkid & Kyla - One Dance (36,272)
2 Jonas Blue feat. JP Cooper - Perfect Strangers (34,916)
3 Calum Scott - Dancing On My Own (34,283)
4 The Chainsmokers feat. Daya - Don't Let Me Down (33,211)
5 Clean Bandit feat. Louisa Johnson - Tears (28,892)

6-10
9 Shawn Mendes - Treat You Better

11-20
14 Ariana Grande - Into You
16 Katy Perry - Rise *
20 5 Seconds of Summer - Girls Talk Boys *

21-30
28 Christine and the Queens - Tilted

31-40
31 Britney Spears feat. G-Eazy - Make Me... *
37 Snakehips feat. ZAYN - Cruel *
38 MK & Becky Hill - Piece of Me ^

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Albums

1 Michael Kiwanuka - Love & Hate (8,368) *
2 Adele - 25 (7,670)
3 Christine and the Queens - Chaleur Humaine (7,256)
4 Drake - Views (6,394)
5 Biffy Clyro - Ellipsis (6,081)

6-10
9 Bob Marley & The Wailers - Legend
10 Good Charlotte - Youth Authority *

11-20
15 Justin Bieber - Purpose
16 twenty one pilots - Blurryface
18 James Bay - Chaos and the Calm
19 Ed Sheeran - x

21-30
21 Jeff Beck - Loud Hailer *
22 Gregory Porter - Take Me to the Alley
26 Sia - This Is Acting
28 Red Hot Chili Peppers - Greatest Hits
29 Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
30 Gregory Porter - Liquid Spirit ^

31-40
32 Abba - Gold: Greatest Hits ^
34 Taylor Swift - 1989 ^
35 Queen - Greatest Hits ^
36 Years & Years - Communion
39 Charlie Puth - Nine Track Mind ^

Posted by: Mart!n Jul 20 2016, 05:08 PM

Yep... definitely Drake for a 15th week, Britney will end up Top 50 by the end of the week, she's barely holding on.

Adele will take the #1 album by Friday.

Posted by: smidsy101 Jul 20 2016, 05:19 PM

Final Song is at #19 before anyone asks happy.gif

Posted by: Bjork Jul 20 2016, 05:28 PM

Kiwanuka holding up pretty well, Adele will overtake but he should be safe for top 3, maybe even #2

Posted by: Hadji Jul 20 2016, 05:48 PM

Hope M.O can creep into the top 40 as they're at #14 on iTunes and #51 on Spotify

Posted by: JosephStyles Jul 20 2016, 05:53 PM

QUOTE(smidsy101 @ Jul 20 2016, 06:19 PM) *
Final Song is at #19 before anyone asks happy.gif


Oops, missed that one! heehee.gif

Posted by: dandy* Jul 20 2016, 05:59 PM

Given the relative lack of new album releases next week, it would be fantastic if Christine could somehow capitalise and sneak a week at #1.

Posted by: edneyguerra Jul 20 2016, 07:19 PM

what about kill em with kindness and we dont talk anymore?

Posted by: timjimlee Jul 20 2016, 07:24 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Jul 20 2016, 06:59 PM) *
Given the relative lack of new album releases next week, it would be fantastic if Christine could somehow capitalise and sneak a week at #1.

Yes looking like it could happen with a bit of a push from the Record company. Adele sold marginally more yesterday than Christine & The Queens despite being behind the French band on Amazon/iTunes (I guess Adele is selling more in supermarkets and getting more streams).
It wouldn't surprise me if "Purpose" continues to climb in coming weeks and finally makes it to top.

Posted by: Mart!n Jul 20 2016, 07:27 PM

QUOTE(edneyguerra @ Jul 20 2016, 08:19 PM) *
what about kill em with kindness and we dont talk anymore?


We Don't Talk Anymore #30, and the other track not top 40.

Posted by: liamk97 Jul 20 2016, 08:29 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Jul 20 2016, 06:08 PM) *
Adele will take the #1 album by Friday.

With barely 11k mind. sad.gif I dread to think how many sales it'll take to get #1 next week with Bear's Den likely to be the only competition from the new releases. As Dandy says, that hopefully could mean Christine & The Queens can capitalise on that and possibly take #1. All they need is another performance and they'll receive another big sales boost.

Posted by: Jake. Jul 20 2016, 08:38 PM

Michael Kiwanuka's album has been reduced to £4.99 on Amazon which will probably help it a little bit, though I doubt that will be enough for him to keep the #1?

Posted by: Bjork Jul 20 2016, 08:38 PM

this Friday would be the perfect moment for Frank Ocean to finally release his album!!!

Posted by: liamk97 Jul 20 2016, 08:49 PM

QUOTE(Bjork @ Jul 20 2016, 09:38 PM) *
this Friday would be the perfect moment for Frank Ocean to finally release his album!!!

Indeed! I seem to recall a week in April being set to have sub 10k sales at #1 and Beyonce released her album out of nowhere, although of course Prince's death happened as well which boosted what would have been a very low sales week.

Posted by: raphaelalm Jul 20 2016, 09:23 PM

Get Weird by Little Mix is #20?

Posted by: Doctor Blind Jul 20 2016, 09:26 PM

QUOTE(raphaelalm @ Jul 20 2016, 10:23 PM) *
Get Weird by Little Mix is #20?


Yes.

Posted by: timjimlee Jul 20 2016, 09:27 PM

QUOTE(Jake. @ Jul 20 2016, 09:38 PM) *
Michael Kiwanuka's album has been reduced to £4.99 on Amazon which will probably help it a little bit, though I doubt that will be enough for him to keep the #1?

Wise move though, it has all ready gone back above Christine & The Queens in the Amazon Best Sellers.
In next month or so I think we are going to see a few more Promotions like this and ones like the 99p download offer that propelled Coldplay Album to the top earlier in the year.

Posted by: JosephStyles Jul 20 2016, 09:28 PM

This summer could be the perfect time for Justin Bieber to reduce his album across the board as it could finally make #1 alongside the Cold Water hype laugh.gif

Posted by: John-James Jul 20 2016, 09:35 PM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Jul 20 2016, 10:28 PM) *
This summer could be the perfect time for Justin Bieber to reduce his album across the board as it could finally make #1 alongside the Cold Water hype laugh.gif


That would be amazing! The #2 peak is so annoying considering its performance dry.gif

Posted by: ___∆___ Jul 20 2016, 11:01 PM

Adele coming for that 14th week yahoo.gif MO should get their first Top 40 hit by Sunday and seriously can Calum or Jonas get a surge in streams and snatch the #1!

Posted by: Steve201 Jul 20 2016, 11:28 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Jul 20 2016, 09:49 PM) *
Indeed! I seem to recall a week in April being set to have sub 10k sales at #1 and Beyonce released her album out of nowhere, although of course Prince's death happened as well which boosted what would have been a very low sales week.


Indeed we've only went down to 10k with the Lumineers - but no doubt before Septembers big releases Come we will see this again as this is usually the quietest time of the year!

Posted by: timjimlee Jul 21 2016, 08:38 AM

One of the big pluses of the low Sales week in the Album chart is the unpredictability of it.
Wednesday's update had 4 Albums within 2k of the top (even Drake is within touching distance of number 1, I don't think he will make it but there is a tendency for a high percentage of Album streams to be added late and you never know whether a boost from a Video or something similar could change things ).
It would be a bit ironic next week if the release of the Video for "One Dance" gave the Album a boost to return to the top just at the point the Single is (hopefully) moving off the top...


Posted by: Mullo Jul 21 2016, 10:10 AM

Any Olly Murs update since Monday?
Fall from 14 to 30 was quite big, wonder if he has moved up slightly??

Posted by: steveh31 Jul 21 2016, 10:17 AM

QUOTE(Mullo @ Jul 21 2016, 11:10 AM) *
Any Olly Murs update since Monday?
Fall from 14 to 30 was quite big, wonder if he has moved up slightly??

if it was climbing it would have got mentioned in the update

Posted by: Mullo Jul 21 2016, 10:20 AM

QUOTE(steveh31 @ Jul 21 2016, 11:17 AM) *
if it was climbing it would have got mentioned in the update


So does anyone know he position? Even if it is falling?

Posted by: danG Jul 21 2016, 10:33 AM

QUOTE(Mullo @ Jul 21 2016, 11:20 AM) *
So does anyone know he position? Even if it is falling?

25 + 7 =

Posted by: liamk97 Jul 21 2016, 10:35 AM

From MW, in regards to Wednesday's update:

QUOTE
According to Official Charts Company midweek figures, One Dance (which is again No.1 on the midweeks), has chalked up more downloads so far this week (11,854) than at the same stage last week (9,172), going someway to make up for a slight dip in streams, which are down from 2.5 million to 2.4 million week-on-week.

Posted by: Viper* Jul 21 2016, 07:34 PM

SIGH @ Britney flop. cry.gif

Posted by: Rob Spears Jul 21 2016, 08:41 PM

QUOTE(Viper* @ Jul 21 2016, 08:34 PM) *
SIGH @ Britney flop. cry.gif

It's been out less than a week. Radio play building, despite Radio 1 snubbing it again. And the video isn't even out yet! It will climb, I'm sure of it. tongue.gif

Posted by: The Hit Parade Jul 21 2016, 09:44 PM

Just got the Michael Kiwanuka album on Google for 99p.

Posted by: No Sleeep Jul 21 2016, 10:53 PM

QUOTE(Viper* @ Jul 21 2016, 08:34 PM) *
SIGH @ Britney flop. cry.gif


Ikr cry.gif I don't know why I got my hopes up, the British public have the worst taste sad.gif

I just hope she releases the album on a week like this so she can have a chance at finally getting a #1! w00t.gif

Posted by: rundmck Jul 21 2016, 10:58 PM

QUOTE(The Hit Parade @ Jul 21 2016, 10:44 PM) *
Just got the Michael Kiwanuka album on Google for 99p.

Bound to sneak the #1 album then ahead of Adele.

Posted by: liamk97 Jul 21 2016, 10:59 PM

There was a Spotify banner for Michael's album too which will help; I think he could keep hold of the #1 actually!

Posted by: ___∆___ Jul 21 2016, 11:03 PM

QUOTE(The Hit Parade @ Jul 21 2016, 09:44 PM) *
Just got the Michael Kiwanuka album on Google for 99p.


Can't blame his record company trying to secure the #1 seeing as Adele was poised to take over. Might be to late though?

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