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 Apr 15 2018, 10:15 AM
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Quite a few polls out this weekend, all pretty much saying the same thing - dead heat between Conservative and Labour:
YouGov (9/10 Apr) CON 40%(-2), LAB 40%(-1), LDEM 9%(+2). Opinium (10 Apr) CON 40%(-2), LAB 40%(nc), LDEM 7%(+1) ComRes CON 40%, LAB 41%, LDEM 7% Survation CON 40%(+2), LAB 40%(-5), LDEM 9%(nc) Note Survation is the one that got closest to the actual result at the 2017 GE and usually gives Labour a large lead (and therefore is pasted over social media everywhere), so it is interesting that this poll is now more or less showing figures of 40/40. |
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Apr 23 2018, 08:32 AM
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 Paul Hyett
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YouGov/Times – CON 43(+3), LAB 38(-2), LDEM 8(-1) 21 APR 2018 http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives...oting-intention https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumul...VI_Trackers.pdf |
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Apr 23 2018, 08:59 AM
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Yougov is a This ry stooge poll
Weeks and weeks of Labour attacks from the BbC et all Treating the Tories with kid gloves over their scandals And THIS is all they could do? Ha |
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Apr 23 2018, 10:10 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Queef of Peace @ Apr 23 2018, 09:59 AM)  Yougov is a This ry stooge poll Weeks and weeks of Labour attacks from the BbC et all Treating the Tories with kid gloves over their scandals And THIS is all they could do? Ha You do realise that, no matter who commissions a poll, they can't tell they responders who to choose? |
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Apr 23 2018, 10:49 AM
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You do realise hey then mess around with the results until they get something they THINK is right?
In the case of stooge polls like likely he above, they are always looking for a Tory poll for the bandwagon efgec They're all in it together alright |
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Apr 23 2018, 11:17 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Queef of Peace @ Apr 23 2018, 11:49 AM) You do realise hey then mess around with the results until they get something they THINK is right? In the case of stooge polls like likely he above, they are always looking for a Tory poll for the bandwagon efgec They're all in it together alright 'Efgec'?  If polls don't reflect the underlying reality, they are useless at election time. ISTM more a case of you being unable/unwilling to believe that the Tories are no less popular than Labour? |
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Apr 23 2018, 05:56 PM
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Effect
 Yes. They are useless for predicting. But that is not what the establishment care about. They want us to think there is no chance. that the Tories are.more popular than they are, for a bandwagon effect, to demoralise, and make the party of the landed gentry SEEM more legitimate for people to vote for it Classic psychology |
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Apr 24 2018, 05:46 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Queef of Peace @ Apr 23 2018, 06:56 PM) Effect Yes. They are useless for predicting. But that is not what the establishment care about. They want us to think there is no chance. that the Tories are.more popular than they are, for a bandwagon effect, to demoralise, and make the party of the landed gentry SEEM more legitimate for people to vote for it Classic psychology Thank you for confirming the last sentence of my previous post. For all, the Tories faults, most of them do not conform to the mental image you have of them. People vote for the Tories because they believe their own financial interests will be best protected by them. Obviously that's not true for everyone, but it is true for enough people to get them elected more often than not. |
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Apr 24 2018, 09:03 AM
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They get elected through conditioning, brainwashing and an antique voting system only.
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Apr 24 2018, 09:11 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Queef of Peace @ Apr 24 2018, 10:03 AM) They get elected through conditioning, brainwashing and an antique voting system only. And people here claim *my* opinions are inflexible...
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Apr 24 2018, 09:24 AM
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Buffy/Charmed
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Tories used to rule the workhouses. They ruled us as serfs. They are corrupt. They are liars. They are racist. They are the landed gentry. They do anything to restrict the very e and cling on to power. They represent their own pockets.
They are VILE. They represent at best 10% of the population but the establishment, lies and conditioning extend this number. |
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Apr 24 2018, 09:37 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Queef of Peace @ Apr 24 2018, 10:24 AM) Tories used to rule the workhouses. They ruled us as serfs. They are corrupt. They are liars. They are racist. They are the landed gentry. They do anything to restrict the very e and cling on to power. They represent their own pockets. They are VILE. They represent at best 10% of the population but the establishment, lies and conditioning extend this number. You don't half come up with some BS! Has it ever occurred to you that if the Tories were really like you claim, we never would have had universal franchise? |
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Apr 24 2018, 09:44 AM
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Buffy/Charmed
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They control the presses.
They hate us. |
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Apr 24 2018, 09:46 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Queef of Peace @ Apr 24 2018, 10:44 AM) They control the presses. Even the Guardian?  QUOTE They hate us. Yawn. |
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Apr 24 2018, 09:50 AM
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The BBC is full of Tory minions.
Labour scandals, no matter how minor, are repeated ad nauseum for WEEKS as headlines. Anti semitism which is a bigger Tory problem was reported as all Labour. Tories are treated with kid gloves. Conditioning. They will deport you first, ask questions later. Vile vile government of the landed gentry workhouse owning Victorian draconian wannabe dictators authoritarian splurge. |
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Apr 24 2018, 10:41 AM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Queef of Peace @ Apr 24 2018, 10:50 AM) The BBC is full of Tory minions. Labour scandals, no matter how minor, are repeated ad nauseum for WEEKS as headlines. Anti semitism which is a bigger Tory problem was reported as all Labour. Tories are treated with kid gloves. Conditioning. They will deport you first, ask questions later. Vile vile government of the landed gentry workhouse owning Victorian draconian wannabe dictators authoritarian splurge. Stop trying to steal my 'most exasperating poster' title. 
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Apr 24 2018, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Apr 24 2018, 10:37 AM) You don't half come up with some BS! Has it ever occurred to you that if the Tories were really like you claim, we never would have had universal franchise? In fairness if you look through political history any progressive changes through the last 3 centuries have always been by progressive parties of the left during that time. The tories are simply chameleons. |
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Apr 24 2018, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Apr 24 2018, 10:41 AM) In fairness if you look through political history any progressive changes through the last 3 centuries have always been by progressive parties of the left during that time. The tories are simply chameleons. Tories despise the people. They make concessions to avoid us overthrowing them and ending them for good and that's about it. |
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Apr 24 2018, 01:32 PM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Apr 24 2018, 11:41 AM) In fairness if you look through political history any progressive changes through the last 3 centuries have always been by progressive parties of the left during that time. The tories are simply chameleons. I would describe the Liberals of the 19th & early 20th C 'Progressive' only in relative terms - it took the rise of the Labour party to really light a fire under them. |
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Apr 24 2018, 05:54 PM
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Howdy, disco citizens
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QUOTE(Queef of Peace @ Apr 24 2018, 10:50 AM) Anti semitism which is a bigger Tory problem was reported as all Labour. Tories are treated with kid gloves. You've been making this claim for the past month and have repeatedly refused to show your evidence for such a claim when asked. Show your workings please. |
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