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Posted by: steve201 May 6 2015, 11:09 AM
How is everyone going to stay awake during election nights coverage, it usually gets hard going at 3.30am or so. Might have to have a sleep tomorrow afternoon between 2-5pm!!
Anyone else with plans to be at counts etc?
Posted by: Joe. May 6 2015, 01:03 PM
I'm just going to go to sleep, I'll wake up the next morning for work fully prepared for bad news.
Posted by: steve201 May 6 2015, 01:43 PM
Youll miss all the excitement then 
Posted by: Common Sense May 6 2015, 05:57 PM
Going to have a kip tomorrow teatime/evening.
Posted by: Silas May 6 2015, 05:59 PM
Gonna power through like a boss. Took friday off to nap tho!
Posted by: Severin May 6 2015, 06:05 PM
A bottle of rum to keep me going
Posted by: Suedehead2 May 6 2015, 06:16 PM
I shall be up all night, as usual. I won't bother with any sleep until Friday night. When I've had a nap in the afternoon, I have been very confused for the rest of the day 
Posted by: popchartfreak May 6 2015, 06:35 PM
I will be sleeping my normal hours, as always
I presume Nigel will be saying "you kip if you want, I know I do..."
sorry.
Posted by: April May 6 2015, 06:40 PM
I don't know how I'm going to get through Thursday night watching and Friday at work without sleeping, but it will happen somehow.
Posted by: Brett-Butler May 6 2015, 06:45 PM
Will try to power through as much of the night as possible, will probably get as far as 6am if previous years are anything to go by. Got three different types of coffee and two different brands of energy drink prepared to keep me buzzing. Thankfully I've got no work until June, so I'll be able to take Friday easy.
Posted by: steve201 May 6 2015, 06:52 PM
Haha yeh after 3.30am it's usually pretty tough - have a packet of chocolate chip cookies, 2 bottles of lucozade, sweets, Pringles and plenty of tea for the night and thankfully off tomorrow and Friday!!j
Il be watching bbc myself - aul Dimblebys last hurrah!!
Posted by: LexC May 6 2015, 07:11 PM
I'll be staying up as best I can. South Thanet, Sheffield Hallam and the Brighton seats are the ones I'm gonna try and catch live but I don't think any of them are declaring before sunrise. There will be caffeine.
Posted by: Iz~ May 6 2015, 07:14 PM
I shall have the perfect set of snacks and caffeine to last it, determined to last it and it sounds like the tightness will keep me awake anyway. Might draw up a constituency map to colour in as declarations are made, that'll give me a reason to pay attention and stay up (and I find that sort of thing fun).
Posted by: Mart!n May 6 2015, 07:16 PM
Seriously... staying up all night... normal hours for me.
Posted by: Chez Wombat May 6 2015, 09:13 PM
I don't have work the next day so may be able to watch the whole of it! (or as late as I can at least, dunno if I can last a whole night without sleep!)
Posted by: steve201 May 6 2015, 10:17 PM
Think it's 5am when cleggs seat is announced, think he set to win it due to Tory votes. He really pisses me off now - should just join the Tory party. Hope the liberals break up 1920s style with clegg breaking away and The more SDP inclined moving to labour!
Posted by: #FrantaFanatic May 6 2015, 10:55 PM
Well I will be watching it all on the BBC/BBC News channel although I do have work from 6-10 pm tomorrow night so i get out just in time before any of the good parts start! (I'm voting tomorrow morning)
Posted by: Doctor Blind May 7 2015, 12:23 AM
I'm going over to some friends to play the 'General Election Drinking Game'.
Probably start with a bit of C4 Alternative Election night, and then when Sunderland South comes in then commence the 650 constituencies, ending at 4pm on Friday in a wheelbarrow or something (depending on how well the Tories have done).
Posted by: steve201 May 7 2015, 09:54 AM
Good luck DB you may end up in that wheel barrow
Posted by: popchartfreak May 7 2015, 10:31 AM
that's like saying I hope the Labour party break up cos Miliband pisses one off, or the Tory Party cos cameron pisses one off. One man does not represent (except temporarily) a whole political movement. Plus, the more SDP inclined left labour when they became tunnel-visioned left-wing and unelectable. Considering he gets stick for trying to fix Labour party policies and Tory party policies that both had b*llicksed up I find the student-hatred a bit stroppy, knee-jerk and illogical.
As I've said a million times, Clegg did not run the country, it was a coalition, just as I expect the next government will be because the 2 main parties still have no answers and still accept no blame for the country's situation. The Libdems are not responsible for any of it occurring in the first place, only in having to deal with it. Fact.
Posted by: vidcapper May 7 2015, 10:46 AM
I've tried staying up to watch it in the past, but the pols long-winded acceptance speeches/drivel about 'its too early to tell' etc, just drives me nuts! 
Posted by: Suedehead2 May 7 2015, 10:46 AM
As I've said a million times, Clegg did not run the country, it was a coalition, just as I expect the next government will be because the 2 main parties still have no answers and still accept no blame for the country's situation. The Libdems are not responsible for any of it occurring in the first place, only in having to deal with it. Fact.
Precisely. Just look at the flak Clegg has received over the last five years. Most of it has come from the Tory press. Why? Because he has consistently blocked the Tories form implementing some of their more extreme policies. Yes, on economic issues, he is on the centre-right. However, on other issues, he is definitely not a Tory.
Posted by: Suedehead2 May 7 2015, 10:48 AM
It tends to get better as the night goes on. Politicians are more tired and, sometimes at least, less guarded as a result. The line "It's too early to tell" also becomes less valid, although that will be a little different this time.
Posted by: steve201 May 7 2015, 10:57 AM
As I've said a million times, Clegg did not run the country, it was a coalition, just as I expect the next government will be because the 2 main parties still have no answers and still accept no blame for the country's situation. The Libdems are not responsible for any of it occurring in the first place, only in having to deal with it. Fact.
Indeed but I as talking about Clegg, Alexander & Laws here they are Tories in the Lib Dem party and they have a philosophy which they follow and is like a cancer in the party - the Orange Book philosophy which for the last decade has tried to promote small state and social liberal policies which is quite different from the SDP faction which Kennedy Farron and the like follow.
If Clegg decides which I think he will to go into another government with Cameron tomorrow and he doesn't say the referendum on Europe is one of his 'red lines' then it could lead to some kind of split in this very pro European party and rightly so.
I used the example of the 1920s as it's very relevant when Lloyd George stayed in coalition with the Tories which his party were uncomfortable with post war and it helped make the liberals irrelevant until the 1960s.
Posted by: Danny May 7 2015, 11:08 AM
As I've said a million times, Clegg did not run the country, it was a coalition, just as I expect the next government will be because the 2 main parties still have no answers and still accept no blame for the country's situation. The Libdems are not responsible for any of it occurring in the first place, only in having to deal with it. Fact.
But the point is that knocking Clegg out (and Danny Alexander and David Laws; I might even vote Tory if I was in the latter's seat) would pull the Lib Dems back to the left and away from austerity-mania, which ultimately would be good for the country. This isn't an exclusive point against the Lib Dems either because I'd consider voting against some of the more vile "Blairite" Labour MPs too; it's good to get rid of the malign influences from any party.
Posted by: Suedehead2 May 7 2015, 11:24 AM
If Clegg decides which I think he will to go into another government with Cameron tomorrow and he doesn't say the referendum on Europe is one of his 'red lines' then it could lead to some kind of split in this very pro European party and rightly so.
I used the example of the 1920s as it's very relevant when Lloyd George stayed in coalition with the Tories which his party were uncomfortable with post war and it helped make the liberals irrelevant until the 1960s.
Any coalition deal has to be endorsed by a two-thirds vote of a specially convened conference. Even if an EU referendum is not one of Clegg's red lines, it could still be a red line for many voters at that conference.
Posted by: steve201 May 7 2015, 11:46 AM
Let's hope that's the case as I thought he was going to get round it by claiming because Cameron was pro Europe he would join him!
Posted by: popchartfreak May 7 2015, 04:30 PM
As I recall the last election Clegg had a choice between austerity or austerity. The Labour party was identical to the Tory party. Whichever party Clegg went with the result was virtually the same. That's conveniently ignoring facts to support bias I'm afraid. Sorry...
Posted by: ScottyEm May 7 2015, 05:50 PM
I have a new job which means I don't work Thurs and Fri... so this is obviously perfection. Fingers crossed UKIP f*** off.
Posted by: Kath May 7 2015, 06:32 PM
I have to get up at about 6.30 for work tomorrow so there's no way I'm staying up even to watch the early results. Just hoping that I wake up tomorrow to the news that UKIP has disappeared up Farage's badge and hopefully the Tories don't have a majority.
Posted by: #BJSCSLAYERRRRRR May 7 2015, 07:17 PM
What teem does the first result announce? I will see that one as it will basically tell us the overall trend of the election then switch off as, well, I have a life and the results will be the same whether I observe them or not -- except on a quantum level, o course.
Posted by: Danny May 7 2015, 07:25 PM
First result from Sunderland usually comes in about 10.45-11pm.
It won't necessarily tell you the overall trend though (last time, the swings in the Sunderland seats seemed to be pointing to a Tory majority, but then it turned out Labour was holding up better in the closer seats when those results started coming in).
Posted by: steve201 May 7 2015, 09:26 PM
Exit polls looking awful - might get the drink out and I'm a tee totaller!!
Posted by: Kath May 7 2015, 09:41 PM
I may start smoking. I've finished my bottle of wine so I'm going to look for the cooking sherry now!
To be honest - it makes no difference to me who gets in. My house is paid for so all my salary (which is fairly good) only goes on energy bills, the car and food - I just feel sorry for those poor bast*rds who are on £6.50 an hour (and will be for the next five years at least) with rent to pay and kids to bring up. Still - at least IDS has the opportunity to 'SAVE' a further 2 million people from the dole in the next five years (he'll kill most of them on the way mind but hey-ho!)
Posted by: Liаm May 7 2015, 09:44 PM
I'm not watching all of this, I do have the day off sixth form but don't think I have the power to push through it all
I kinda want to watch it all for when the Kingswood results come in but I can look them up 
If i'm awake at like 3am or something I might peek in and see how things are going...
Posted by: Suedehead2 May 7 2015, 11:13 PM
As Nick Robinson has pointed out, if the exit poll is roughly right, the government will be at the mercy of dozens of right-wing nut-jobs (my words, not his).
Posted by: steve201 May 7 2015, 11:42 PM
Dup, UKIP etc.
Balls could lose out but nothing confirmed. Seems the Labour Party is being squeezed by both Scottish and English nationalists so DC can just stumble into No10 again
Posted by: Suedehead2 May 8 2015, 12:43 AM
If the Tories govern alone, we look like having a government with no seats in Scotland, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle or Birmingham. It's hard to be seen as a government for the whole country from that starting position.
Posted by: Silas May 8 2015, 01:47 AM
Cameron cannot claim a legitimate government with 0 seats in Scotland.
Posted by: Harve May 8 2015, 06:49 AM
Well, he will. Of course it will pose a legitimacy problem, but when other parties take just 3/59 seats, that's not unique to the Conservatives.
Posted by: steve201 May 8 2015, 08:17 AM
And when the greens and UKIP get more votes than SNP but less seats they can...
Posted by: Suedehead2 May 8 2015, 09:31 AM
That's a ridiculous comparison. The Greens and UKIP stood in 600-odd constituencies, the SNP in just 59. It is far more relevant to point to the fact that a party with roughly half the vote won almost all of the seats. Alternatively, a party that won a little over one third of the votes across the UK won roughly half the seats.
Posted by: Sandro Returns May 8 2015, 11:40 AM
I drank 2 bottles of champagne during the night to celebrate the result
Posted by: popchartfreak May 8 2015, 04:11 PM
yes a lot of Tory voters I know also drank lots of alcohol. I think that was before the vote though which prob explains the result...
Posted by: steve201 May 8 2015, 04:28 PM
Indeed
lol that was after a long night of analysis. Didn't go to bed until midday after Milliband resigned and was up since yday afternoon so was fairly tired. 4 hrs sleep hasn't made the Tory victory any less bitter!
Posted by: Suedehead2 May 8 2015, 04:59 PM
lol that was after a long night of analysis. Didn't go to bed until midday after Milliband resigned and was up since yday afternoon so was fairly tired. 4 hrs sleep hasn't made the Tory victory any less bitter!I haven't been to bed yet
Posted by: steve201 May 8 2015, 07:21 PM
Lol I had to I was good I was a bit delirious this morning as my gfriend went off to work after leaving me at 10pm lastnyt but I felt fine full of adrenaline but I'm glad I went for a few hours - looking forward to QT now with a bit of a clearer head. I don't know how Huw Edwards, Emily Mathis and David Dimbleby do it lol
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