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Harve
post Sep 13 2019, 02:03 AM
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I personally think Cliff and Nicole made the wrong/riskier decision, and the only way this works out for them is if one of them wins veto this week, so they're banking entirely on that. Evicting Holly would've given them a chance of getting to final three without it.
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post Sep 13 2019, 02:04 AM
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NICOLE HOH.
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post Sep 13 2019, 04:41 PM
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Is it bad I lowkey hate Cliff more than Jackson?? Jackson is a horrendous person but at least he's playing, to give him some credit that was a blinder in saving Holly (admittedly, Cliff and Nicole were having doubts anyway but still). I can't really root for him to win though because he's a vile, manipulative person and I still can't forgive that he cheated on slop and really should have been chucked out, or at least put in jeopardy with a penalty vote. He made a mockery of the game.

Cliff just seems to be such a fickle snake, he knows he can't win for himself so he keeps telling whoever has power what they want to hear so he can get to final 2 but it's definitely Jackson vs. Nicole for the win now I think, not necessarily those two in the final 2 (if either had any sense, they'd take the other one out) but either of them would surely beat Cliff or Holly. If Cliff did win, I think he'd be the worst winner for me gameplay wise EVER, at least of the seasons I've seen. Jackson would be possibly the worst *person* to win though laugh.gif
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post Sep 13 2019, 09:16 PM
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Cliff was frustrating me because he was gunning for Tommy to be evicted over Holly (wrong move!), but his achievement this week has been to ensure that if Jackson/Holly were choosing between taking Nicole and Cliff to final 3 and/or 2, it would be him. He came out of the back-and-forth deliberating a lot better than Nicole did.

Definitely think that Cliff is the least likely to win and by far the most likely to go home this week though; he probably loses to everyone. Jackson would most likely beat everyone and not sure who wins if it comes down to a Nicole-Holly final 2.
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post Sep 14 2019, 10:52 PM
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Cliff genuinely seems to believe that taking Jackson to final 3 is a better move than taking Holly.
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post Sep 15 2019, 02:48 AM
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Jackson won veto. Bye bye Cliff. This is what you get for keeping Holly over Tommy.
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post Sep 15 2019, 03:01 AM
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Could you add spoiler tags to your posts please?
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post Sep 15 2019, 11:49 AM
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The final 3 HOH is gonna be nervewracking af now, Nicole HAS to win but she has to take Holly to win
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post Sep 19 2019, 05:13 AM
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Okay I'm over Cliff now too, any hope of him not getting voted AFP? drama.gif These deals with Michie and Holly are nonsense after how many times he moved the goalposts on their final four deal last week.
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post Sep 19 2019, 05:26 AM
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I just don’t get how playing a rat game is even viable at this stage? It’s final 4, only one person wins... it just looks like you’re playing someone else’s game at this point
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post Sep 19 2019, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(Riser @ Sep 19 2019, 06:13 AM) *
Okay I'm over Cliff now too, any hope of him not getting voted AFP? drama.gif These deals with Michie and Holly are nonsense after how many times he moved the goalposts on their final four deal last week.


I can't say I was ever really a fan of his.... but yeah. He's being super greedy. It's not a good look. You don't need to play like this at F4.
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post Sep 20 2019, 01:31 AM
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I never really trusted Cliff but he's just gone right off the edge this past week or so. It's baffling how he did basically nothing the entire time yet feels like playing this pitiful excuse of a game is the right thing now... He really thinks he did something when all he's done is seal his own fate and probably lose AFP laugh.gif Like I said, he just comes across snakey and fickle because all week he has been telling each of the three remaining what they want to hear, as long as he thinks it makes them want to take him over somebody else.

I would say Nicole for AFP but I'm manifesting that she's winning the whole thing, honestly though she deserves the 500k, the runner-up money AND AFP all put together for the boss ass bitch she is being towards Jackson rn and taking none of his shit *.*

Nicole winning the final HOH and cutting Jackson to storm to the win with all bar his vote would be ICONIC and I am so here for it. It's gonna be such a tense and nailbiting HOH because she HAS to win it obviously, and she has to take Holly to win but I think she definitely knows that. She might have played a quieter game that only ramped up recently towards the end, but Nicole F and Kaycee proved that that works over Paul/Tyler playing way too hard! Jackson's played a dirty, aggressive game and there's certainly props to be had for that but at the end of the day he's still an awful person and I can't forgive that nor the fact he cheated on slop and made a mockery of the game by doing so but was just allowed to be let off of that. Like... Chima got thrown out for about as much.
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post Sep 20 2019, 01:42 AM
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Damn cliff. You ruthless. I do however give him respect... Most people are too afraid to play like this. Get that coin henny.
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post Sep 20 2019, 01:57 AM
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DRAG HIM JULIE
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post Sep 20 2019, 02:10 AM
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SCREAMING, she really said "in what world" omg
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post Sep 20 2019, 01:04 PM
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Oh I never liked Cliff either but was just indifferent to him until now laugh.gif Was his telling Jackson about campaigning against him to the jury just an empty threat? I mean there's reasons Jackson shouldn't win but the Cliff deal isn't one of them.
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post Sep 22 2019, 10:07 AM
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Final HOH parts 1 and 2 have happened

Jackson and Holly won... Well that's Jackson winning the 500k then, Jesus wept
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post Sep 26 2019, 02:29 AM
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this season never existed

I can’t believe we were all so excited three months ago

just delete it and cancel the show cbs. no amount of damage control is going to save it
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post Sep 26 2019, 02:37 AM
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Ngl I will stan so hard if Holly wins now, I think she could omg
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post Sep 26 2019, 02:56 AM
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"Jackson you're racist and here's how you made everyone feel but here's 500k" :/ He has to be hte least happy and most sombre winner I've ever seen though! I really hope realising what he did to the others and how he and his little crew made them feel has hit him in the face and really made him think about who he is.

Nicole AFP THO YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSS wub.gif Now that was a satisfying ending, to see her so overwhelmed and everyone so happy for her too.
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