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Posted by: Jester 23rd August 2015, 03:17 PM





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Another famous chart battle, known at the time for Victoria Beckhams sheer desperation (wheeling out David for Woolies signings!) and CD:UK having Out Of Your Mind at number 1, but the classier Spiller won out in the end and helped launch the career of Sophie Ellis Bextor. Which do you now think is the better song of the 2 and has fared better over the years?

Easily still Spiller imo, but Out Of Your Mind actually better than I remember.

Posted by: Luciano 23rd August 2015, 03:19 PM

Spiller, hands down!

It's a lot classier than the regular dance song. I don't know if that makes any sense, though, but it always gives me a 'dandy' party vibe.

Posted by: Danvicii 23rd August 2015, 03:22 PM

I like both but Spiller is a lot lot better, Groovejet is a proper tune and was one of my faves when I was very young too so has that classic feel for me.

Posted by: liamk97 23rd August 2015, 03:23 PM

That's the first time I've ever heard 'Out of Your Mind' and I have no idea why it was ever a hit. 'Groovejet' is infinitely better; such a timeless summer jam! wub.gif

Posted by: Ethan 23rd August 2015, 03:28 PM

'groove jet' is a prime classic wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif ~ 'out of your mind', whilst actually quite good, would've just faded into the background noise of the constant 2000 #1 churn had it made it - by missing out, at least it's still a talking point today~ smile.gif

Posted by: Doctor Blind 23rd August 2015, 03:33 PM

“Groovejet (If This Ain’t Love)” is a classic early 2000s disco inspired dance track. “Out Of Your Mind” isn't that bad, but Spiller by far had the better song and I'm glad it won outright.

That and “Lady (Hear Me Tonight)” strongly remind me of that summer!

Posted by: steve201 23rd August 2015, 03:35 PM

There was so many classic dance songs in that year with Darude, Storm and the like!

Posted by: *Ben* 23rd August 2015, 03:39 PM

That is no question for me. Spiller with Sophie! What a fantastic track, loved every bit of it! wub.gif

I can't even remember how the Truesteppers song sounds like plus I think Victoria was the weakest Spice Girl (without any voice at all).

In the end it wasn't even close, was it?

Posted by: Jester 23rd August 2015, 03:41 PM

202,600 for Spiller
180,600 for Truesteppers

Not massively close.

Posted by: *Ben* 23rd August 2015, 03:42 PM

Actually now listening to Out Of Your Mind... it's OKish, not bad, but nothing outstanding. I'm guessing only Michael would vote for it laugh.gif

Posted by: ThePensmith 23rd August 2015, 03:43 PM

As I said the other day I did love both records but 'Groovejet' has dated better by far. Good party track that!

Posted by: AntoineTTe 23rd August 2015, 03:44 PM

I'm going to go against received wisdom and say that I prefer Out of Your Mind. I do like both to a similar degree - both are 7/10 tunes. The production on Out of Your Mind is what makes it for me. I'd have loved an instrumental version. At the time I was supporting Groovejet for number 1.

It may not have been close but Out of Your Mind was number 1 on CD:UK, if I remember correctly, on the day before the official number 1 was announced.

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd August 2015, 03:44 PM

Groovejet by far wub.gif

What's all the more surprising is that Now 46, which featured Groovejet, had come out a full three weeks before the single was released. So probably 400-450k people already owned the song on CD. It's quite astonishing that it still managed to rack up over 200k in the first week.

Posted by: Gezza 23rd August 2015, 03:46 PM

Spiller obvz. I did buy "Groovejet" in the week it came out as I'd been waiting weeks to get my hand on a copy and because VB was being such a media ho at the time. Looking back Spiller has aged much better than "Out Of Your Mind" which remains very much "2000". Not that that is necessarily a bad thing....

Posted by: dandystar 23rd August 2015, 03:46 PM

Spiller by a mile. Would happily listen to it right now, one of the most enduring dance records from the era.

Posted by: Gezza 23rd August 2015, 03:50 PM

QUOTE(AntoineTTe @ Aug 23 2015, 04:44 PM) *
It may not have been close but Out of Your Mind was number 1 on CD:UK, if I remember correctly, on the day before the official number 1 was announced.

You're correct. CD:UK used to use the midweek sales flash on the Wednesday I believe so they usually go it right as back in the late 90s/early 00s it was normally obvious from the first few days who was gonna be No 1 on that Sunday, but on this occasion Spiller really shifted the copies towards the end of the week as (I suspect) the press had painted Beckham as increasingly desperate to get there.

Posted by: AntoineTTe 23rd August 2015, 03:53 PM

Unpopular opinion - I prefer Modjo's Lady to Groovejet ph34r.gif

Posted by: Doctor Blind 23rd August 2015, 03:56 PM

QUOTE(AntoineTTe @ Aug 23 2015, 04:44 PM) *
It may not have been close but Out of Your Mind was number 1 on CD:UK, if I remember correctly, on the day before the official number 1 was announced.


Yes - it was number 1 in all the midweek sales flashes until Saturday trading which unseated it.

Posted by: dandystar 23rd August 2015, 03:57 PM

QUOTE(AntoineTTe @ Aug 23 2015, 04:53 PM) *
Unpopular opinion - I prefer Modjo's Lady to Groovejet ph34r.gif

Definitely unpopular. Lady is awful!!!

Although I definitely prefer Music Sounds Better With You which arguably began all of these sort of tracks...

Posted by: AntoineTTe 23rd August 2015, 04:51 PM

I prefer the sample used in Lady to the sample used in Groovejet - and I prefer both to Music Sounds Better With You which may have started all this but it's quite irritating and so was One More Time.

Posted by: T Boy 23rd August 2015, 04:55 PM

Groovejet has always been the better track. I too remember having in weeks in advance on Now 46 which is where I fell in love with it.

Posted by: Ja˙ 23rd August 2015, 04:57 PM

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Aug 23 2015, 04:23 PM) *
That's the first time I've ever heard 'Out of Your Mind' and I have no idea why it was ever a hit. 'Groovejet' is infinitely better; such a timeless summer jam! wub.gif

The garage genre was extremely popular, and it was the first solo release by Victoria, so that was a definite recipe for success! I would say that the song was generally liked at the time, and it was given great support by the media. It was a worthy hit for 2000, not out of place.

However in the aftermath of it getting to #2, and in the following years when Victoria increasingly became a figure of ridicule in the press with her further solo attempts, the song wasn't looked back on with fondness. I still sense that some people were/are dismissive of the track because it's Victoria, "the Spice Girl who can't sing"!

I would say that it's definitely a record of its time, not that that's a bad thing but it really does scream "2000". 'Groovejet' does have a more timeless quality to it. The fact it defeated Victoria made it quite notorious, and it proved itself to be a dance classic that has never died throughout the years. 'Out of Your Mind' was pretty much restricted to the summer of its release.

The battle is quite interesting to look back on. In the first set of midweeks, Victoria was ahead by 2.5k, which wasn't a very safe margin but nevertheless they were in the lead. They stayed ahead throughout the midweek stages, so it was all down to Saturday. I think Spiller was still roughly 2.5k/3k behind Victoria before Saturday? To then be 22k ahead one day later was highly impressive!

It's a pity Victoria didn't get a solo #1 like the other Spice Girls did (well, for me it's a pity because I'm a big fan kink.gif ). If she'd only released a week later then she probably would have done it, and denied Madonna getting to #1 in the process, which would certainly have been a talking point! That's assuming she sold a similar amount the following week of course.

~

Oh and I prefer 'Lady' to 'Groovejet' as well, AntoineTTe, you're not alone!

Posted by: Dobbo 23rd August 2015, 05:17 PM

Groovejet (even though I'm not huge on it as there were so many better dance tracks around at the time).

I have no recollection at all of that other track.

Posted by: Ultraviolence1989 23rd August 2015, 07:39 PM

Groovejet easily for me wub.gif

Posted by: Explozian 23rd August 2015, 08:32 PM

Out of Your Mind is more punchy, it has more verve because of those edgy modern garage beats.


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Posted by: Juranamo 23rd August 2015, 09:36 PM

I'm surprised at the amount of people who are saying things along the lines of 'Out Of Your Mind' not being remembered/being of it's time/not even having heard it before.

As far as I was aware, both of these tracks are classics, and I hear them both fairly regularly ('Groovejet' quite a bit more of course!). I actually prefer 'Out Of Your Mind', it's got and edge that I don't feel with 'Groovejet', but I do love them both!

Posted by: Mack 24th August 2015, 07:54 AM

Has to be Spiller all the way.


Posted by: mr_pmt 25th August 2015, 10:54 PM

Spiller! Though I do like both.

That song is definitely not the reason I'm a fan of Sophie Ellis-Bextor though, as much as I do enjoy it.

Posted by: ThePensmith 28th August 2015, 12:43 PM

Explozian - I'm pretty sure Lip Ring-gate happened for Victoria during 'Not Such an Innocent Girl' promo, did it not?

Posted by: Common Sense 29th August 2015, 07:41 AM

Spiller of course. Pops up on quite a few compilatuons too. Can't even remember how the other one goes.

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