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Posted by: Jonjo Jan 1 2020, 11:15 PM



One of the early award contenders for 2021? (Similar to Inception-type buzz?)

Posted by: Jonjo Jan 1 2020, 11:16 PM

This looks insane (but this is Nolan after all). His obsession with time is humorous. Nolan is one of few I can trust, so fingers crossed for this one!

Posted by: Jαsє Jan 1 2020, 11:31 PM

The trailer looks epic

Confession time - I've never seen a Nolan film ohmy.gif

Posted by: Jonjo Jan 1 2020, 11:59 PM

U wot?

Have you not seen any of 'The Dark Knight' trilogy? ohmy.gif

He's one of the finest directors alive. 'Inception' is pretty much THE perfect Summer blockbuster. It's incredible.

Posted by: Chez WreathBow Jan 2 2020, 12:40 AM

Yes, you've been missing out big time! The Dark Knight trilogy, Inception, Memento, Dunkirk and The Prestige are some of the best films of recent times.

Looking forward to this ofc.~

Posted by: Jαsє Jan 2 2020, 04:55 PM

Nope, never seen anything from him. My friend who has seen literally every film he's been involved with has been going on at me to get his stuff watched so I think I'm gonna start with The Dark Knight trilogy!

Posted by: Rooney Aug 22 2020, 02:28 PM

The reviews for this are mainly positive! I'm really looking forward to seeing this.

Is Christpopher Nolan going to be the man to save cinemas in the short term?

Posted by: Addy!(By Demand) Aug 22 2020, 02:49 PM

QUOTE(Chez WreathBow @ Jan 2 2020, 01:40 AM) *
Yes, you've been missing out big time! The Dark Knight trilogy, Inception, Memento, Dunkirk and The Prestige are some of the best films of recent times.

Looking forward to this ofc.~


How could you not mentioned Interstellar sob.gif that is my fave of his work...mindblowing!!!

Posted by: Chez Wombat Aug 22 2020, 03:10 PM

I do really like Interstellar, it's absolutely beautiful and the scope is incredible, it's not amongst his best though as it's a tad over-ambitious and stretched out and not quite as successful as the others mentioned (has it really been eight months since I made that post? mellow.gif)

Anyway really looking forward to this, I'm sure it'll be good anyway, but it really could go down in history film that saves cinema for the COVID era if it goes down well.

Posted by: Jonjoliday Aug 22 2020, 09:56 PM

I really, really hope this is a success. All eyes will be on this and it's release strategy for future big film releases. If it bombs in it's limited territories, we're gonna get further delays/cancels for cinema and possibly nothing new (big movie release wise) until next year.

Fingers crossed. I can't think of many better non-franchise options than a Christopher Nolan movie to get the ball rolling though!

Posted by: Popchartfreak Aug 28 2020, 05:11 PM

5/10 for me, Not bad, but not exceptional. Interstellar was great, Memento intriguing, Inception was interesting, The Dark Knight trllogy's good, but this left me feeling a bit underwhelmed. There's precious little characterisation/development most of them being plot function-related, not unusual in Nolan films, and it's long, also fairly usual for Nolan, huge expanses of exposition and offscreen plot referencing & jumping about in short segments. The cast were OK, though the lead was oddly uninvolving one way or the other, the three supporting roles were slightly more memorable. Nolan delights in being unpredictable and cerebral, but really this is Memento Plus. Plus being plotholes. The problem with being so involved plotwise is I usually revert to plothole nitpicking. I won't spoil anything else, just go along for the ride, try and guess the ending, and help keep cinema alive!

10/10 for releasing it though! smile.gif

Posted by: Rooney Aug 29 2020, 07:46 PM

QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Aug 28 2020, 06:11 PM) *
5/10 for me, Not bad, but not exceptional. Interstellar was great, Memento intriguing, Inception was interesting, The Dark Knight trllogy's good, but this left me feeling a bit underwhelmed. There's precious little characterisation/development most of them being plot function-related, not unusual in Nolan films, and it's long, also fairly usual for Nolan, huge expanses of exposition and offscreen plot referencing & jumping about in short segments. The cast were OK, though the lead was oddly uninvolving one way or the other, the three supporting roles were slightly more memorable. Nolan delights in being unpredictable and cerebral, but really this is Memento Plus. Plus being plotholes. The problem with being so involved plotwise is I usually revert to plothole nitpicking. I won't spoil anything else, just go along for the ride, try and guess the ending, and help keep cinema alive!

10/10 for releasing it though! smile.gif


I don't think there were any plotholes, but unless you understand physics, it's absolutely mind crazy. I was following totally until about two thirds of the way through, but I lost myself in the final sequence, but I did guess the ending at least. So I was fairly happy with that. I'd give it a solid 8/10, it's not character driven at all and a lot of the characters are cliched, but it's plot heavy and certainly an interesting concept.

Posted by: Nightcrawler Aug 30 2020, 11:32 AM

So I had no idea what was going on for the first hour (don't think I remembered anybody's names and I definitely didn't know who anybody was in terms of their relevance to the story) but ended up quite enjoying it by the end! Some good action sequences and I *think* I understood the plot...

My main gripe was the fact that the sound editing wasn't great and I often couldn't work out what people were saying - particularly Kenneth Branagh who barely moved his mouth throughout the entire film!

Posted by: Rooney Aug 30 2020, 06:11 PM

QUOTE(Nightcrawler @ Aug 30 2020, 12:32 PM) *
So I had no idea what was going on for the first hour (don't think I remembered anybody's names and I definitely didn't know who anybody was in terms of their relevance to the story) but ended up quite enjoying it by the end! Some good action sequences and I *think* I understood the plot...

My main gripe was the fact that the sound editing wasn't great and I often couldn't work out what people were saying - particularly Kenneth Branagh who barely moved his mouth throughout the entire film!


I do agree with the sound editing in parts, it was very "Bane" in The Dark Knight Rises. I wonder if Nolan just likes that editing tone as it mimics the reality of people speaking with heavy masks on? Who knows. Certainly in the opening scene it was very difficult to make out what was being said.

Posted by: Esmerelda Sep 2 2020, 03:47 PM

Had to walk out during this as I just couldn't understand a word anyone was saying. The other 5 people in there had already given up. It's a pretty old fashioned cinema so not sure if their sound system was to blame though I have never had any problems before

Posted by: Jonjoliday Sep 3 2020, 12:06 PM

I saw this last night. Fantastic film making.. just when you think you've seen it all... incredible stuff.

However, I don't get the sound/dialogue problems at all? Like, I found it easy to hear everything they were saying (but then I never had that issue with Bane's stuff in TDKR so idk?) the score was definitely over powering and louder than usual, but I heard everything that was being said? But I was in just a bog-standard screen and not IMAX or X Plus or anything.

I need another watch though as I *think* I understood it, but there's just so much to unpack in your first viewing of it, but sometimes they're the best films as you'll get something new every time you watch etc..

Posted by: Popchartfreak Sep 3 2020, 03:58 PM

QUOTE(Rooney @ Aug 29 2020, 08:46 PM) *
I don't think there were any plotholes, but unless you understand physics, it's absolutely mind crazy. I was following totally until about two thirds of the way through, but I lost myself in the final sequence, but I did guess the ending at least. So I was fairly happy with that. I'd give it a solid 8/10, it's not character driven at all and a lot of the characters are cliched, but it's plot heavy and certainly an interesting concept.


I think it was the way the thrust of the backwards-in-time segments changed the past (and therefore the future) with the promise that the lead was going to go back further in time to recruit future-Batman who sacrifices himself to save the world from Branagh.

Unless I've missed something obvious, if he's gone back in time to set things up to save the world, then the easiest way of doing that is to shoot Branagh immediately 10 years back. Problem solved, no need for complex, secretive manipulations.

Problem 2, if he's going back in time there's going to be 2 of him at any given moment, both going different ways, he could have told himself what to do and then no need fighting himself later if for some convenient reason he cant kill Branagh at any time during his lifetime.


I can't stop myself going off at tangents in film, especially time travel films, it's a compulsion laugh.gif

Posted by: Cremey Sep 3 2020, 04:18 PM

I was pretty disappointed with this. It was incredible to look at and experience, as any Christopher Nolan film is, but overall I thought it lacked something of his usual magic.

I'm another one who struggled with the sound mixing. Parts of it were honestly deafening, and I found Branagh impossible to understand in some parts (the sound plus the accent, as well as him hardly moving his mouth didn't help, haha)

The first hour I literally didn't understand a thing haha, and despite understanding everything (I think...) by the end, I went looking online afterwards to see if there was anything I had missed which might explain why I didn't think it was as great as I thought it'd be, but it ended up that I did understand it, I just didn't think it was that great? I think I just have such high expectations of Christopher Nolan films now, so anything less than great is such a letdown. If it was by another director I'm sure I'd have been a lot more impressed overall.

Still, despite not loving it, WHAT a film to re-open the cinemas with.

Posted by: Iz~ Sep 5 2020, 03:52 PM

For what it's worth, this does the basics of a time travel story right, though it doesn't do anything new with the old tropes. And what it tries to do new... doesn't work.

I think my biggest tell about my ultimate opinion of this one was in the scene where they first did the exposition for objects going backwards in time. Specifically the line: "It's best if you don't think about it too much." - obviously aimed at the audience, and great, well done guys, because now I am definitely going to be thinking about how this shit makes no sense for the rest of the movie.

It's an interesting concept, and I wanted to see it work, but rather than encourage turning your brain off, fully plot out how to make the use of this weapon sound like it makes a bit more sense. When the teams in the endgame sequence were using the backwards-moving buildings to plan out their next move, it became so obvious that this is not a weapon anyone would ever create or want to use - if your opponent can use it against you to predict what to do, it's pointless. They paid some lip-service by saying you wouldn't want to get hit by a backwards moving bullet, but not moreso than normal bullets? It just seems so... useless if you know your enemy is using it.

(I did fall asleep for a little bit in the middle but plot summaries doesn't make it seem like I missed all that much.) And it's not because I didn't enjoy it, I did enjoy watching at least some parts of it, but time travel films encourage me to pick at their plot a lot, and this one had more than most - though I have to commend it for trying with a more complex plot. I just wish they'd tried harder to fully realise their concept, it felt half-conceived.

Posted by: Brett-Butler Sep 5 2020, 07:32 PM

I knew little about Tenet before I went to see it, and having come out of it, I know even less. Spent about an hour trying to talk through the logic of what happened in the film, but we still couldn't work out a lot of it. It felt like there was still a few dangling threads, but not sure if there's a sequel in the offing as Christopher Nolan doesn't normally do these, Batman aside.

Posted by: Addy!(By Demand) Sep 8 2020, 05:37 PM

Tenet opened with 20.2 million in US cheeseblock.png

I am so excited and going to theatre to watch it as well since the nearest theatre is opening tomorrow after 6 months ohmy.gif

Posted by: Chez Wombat Sep 12 2020, 03:45 PM

Saw this today, first trip to a cinema in six months! It was pretty wonderfully quiet, though we did go in the morning where it's more quiet.

It was pretty much classic Nolan, possibly to a fault at points. I'm not brainy enough to properly dissect the science of the time travel methods they were going for, but to my ears, it was mainly vague nonsense as an excuse for those cool fight scenes and gotcha moments, which were pretty spectacular so no issues there x I think I need to read up on the plot as there was still some things I didn't get, it really didn't help that the dialogue was so hard to understand in places, especially the opening scene. I'm not even sure who the lead character was nor anything about him but I gather it was meant to be more of a plot driven narrative anyway. Still, it never lost my interest bar the extremely exposition-heavy first half and the backwards sequences were incredible to watch.

I couldn't quite love it though as I just think it was missing a bit of heart ultimately, it did just feel like one big journey from A to B with lots of confusing physics thrown in and no real development of characters or emotional investment. It was basically just like Inception, but that worked because the characters were more fleshed out and you cared about them and so you were willing to go through these layers of confusion.

Flawed certainly, but a hell of a lot of fun so I'd recommend it anyway, and ofc. I give him full credit for sticking to his guns and releasing it in cinemas as this is EXACTLY the film needed for that wub.gif

Posted by: UltraFolklore Sep 12 2020, 03:53 PM

QUOTE(Addy!(By Demand) @ Sep 8 2020, 06:37 PM) *
Tenet opened with 20.2 million in US cheeseblock.png

I am so excited and going to theatre to watch it as well since the nearest theatre is opening tomorrow after 6 months ohmy.gif

when you look at the US number closely it's awful cry.gif damn, we we're rooting for this but ugh :/// Wonder Woman has been pushed back to Xmas and Candyman to 2021 now and honestly expect every single other major 2020 release to come to be moved back (bar maybe Bond)

I still haven't got round to seeing this yet oops

Posted by: Tafty Sep 12 2020, 05:29 PM

Apparently majority of cinemas are closed in New York and LA, to the point Nolan fans/fans of cinema have been travelling distances just to see it... Gahhh. I still don't see the problem of releasing in territories where possible and places like the US where it's very limited, give a VOD option (something they should definitely have done with Mulan imo)

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