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Posted by: ▬Mart!n▬ 13th August 2014, 11:13 AM

How obsessive chart fan are you?

Why do you follow them, for instance favourite acts, chart facts, or just follow the charts in general.

Just to get the general consensus of members that follow the charts, for me its basically just following the chart these days, not following any major act, unless a couple of big acts are releasing in the same week, which makes the chart more exciting,

I'm just fairly obsessive, but I'm leaning towards I don't care about them these days as they have became fairly slow and getting quite a bit of a chore to listen to the chart show on a Sunday afternoon/early evening.

Posted by: gooddelta 13th August 2014, 11:17 AM

Somewhere between fairly obsessive and don't really care. Leaning towards the latter recently, they've become too dull and predictable, I used to like the surprises of the chart but everything's clear to see weeks in advance now.

Posted by: T Boy 13th August 2014, 11:40 AM

QUOTE(gooddelta @ Aug 13 2014, 12:17 PM) *
Somewhere between fairly obsessive and don't really care. Leaning towards the latter recently, they've become too dull and predictable, I used to like the surprises of the chart but everything's clear to see weeks in advance now.


Pretty much this. I used to be very interested but I don't listen much anymore as it's just become too boring.

Posted by: Ultraviolence 13th August 2014, 11:46 AM

Highly obsessive and chart in general (also for favourite acts as well- Idina was the only reason I listened when the chart was in quite a big state in February)

Posted by: steve201 13th August 2014, 11:58 AM

I said Highly Obsessive and Follow the Charts in general.

Id say alot of younger Bjers will say they follow certain acts whereas the older hands will be general followers.

As ive said before I started loving the charts when i became interested in classic xmas music. I used to listen to the 1985 NOW Christmas album cassette that my parents had and began to wonder how successful these song were when they first came out - were they just like the songs we hear on the radio today, how did they become perennial songs played every year? How did they become part of popular culture? I absolutely loved Stuart MacConies 'The Peoples Songs' which was successful last year.

Thats what led me to chart runs and sales mainly on the old Cool Clarity/UK Top 40 Charts forums around 2002/03 then to Chart Clarity and then here as everyone migrated over.

Im a general follower of the chart now and love seeing records grow and become massive hits and how they are released much to everyones annoyance in here tongue.gif

Posted by: *Ben* 13th August 2014, 12:00 PM

Fairly obsessive. I was highly obsessive about 10-20 years ago, but I don't have that many time anymore sad.gif

I follow chart facts and charts in general and not certain artists biggrin.gif

Posted by: James1987 13th August 2014, 12:37 PM

QUOTE(*Ben* @ Aug 13 2014, 01:00 PM) *
Fairly obsessive. I was highly obsessive about 10-20 years ago, but I don't have that many time anymore sad.gif

I follow chart facts and charts in general and not certain artists biggrin.gif


Same for me, I was mega obsessed around the early 2000's then lost a degree of interest in the last 3-4 years.

For me I used to listen to Radio 1 religiously every Sunday for the charts but after Fearne and Reggie took over in 2007/8 I gave up interest

I miss the days when Mark Goodier would read out all these facts and figures and the build up to reveal the weeks new releases and the number one...nowadays it's just so matter of fact and uninteresting in my opinion so I only really follow the charts on Buzzjack

Posted by: *Ben* 13th August 2014, 12:41 PM

QUOTE(James1987 @ Aug 13 2014, 02:37 PM) *
Same for me, I was mega obsessed around the early 2000's then lost a degree of interest in the last 3-4 years.

For me I used to listen to Radio 1 religiously every Sunday for the charts but after Fearne and Reggie took over in 2007/8 I gave up interest

I miss the days when Mark Goodier would read out all these facts and figures and the build up to reveal the weeks new releases and the number one...nowadays it's just so matter of fact and uninteresting in my opinion so I only really follow the charts on Buzzjack

On MTV Europe I always watched Hit List UK in the 90s. I loved it, but MTV Europe is not about music anymore sad.gif

Also I watched the German charts on the German Viva, but I can't follow it anymore on my cable tv.

Posted by: euro music 13th August 2014, 01:34 PM

I am highly obsessive about the charts - but not just in the UK but worldwide especially UK, USA, all the European charts & Australia.
This is because I like to see how my favourite acts are doing in other countries and all the other good stuff out there apart from UK & USA.

I think the UK charts are better now as they are slower moving unlike what they were like 10 or 15 years ago when a track charted at it's peak one week and 2 weeks later it had gone, and another couple of weeks the single deleted.
I think including downloads was the best thing that happened to the UK charts.

I also hate cut-down charts like the BBC has just the Top 40. I like them complete such as the full UK Top 100 which is official.
As well as UK & USA, even Ireland has a full Top 100 now as does Germany, Holland, and Australia. France even has the Top 200.

I am also obsessive about archive charts from as far back as possible in different countries.
I even have charts from UK & USA as far back as 1940.

Also it's very rare I listen to UK radio stations - I usually listen to Radio 538 (Holland) or Antenne Bayern (Germany)

Posted by: marcin 13th August 2014, 01:38 PM

Fairly obsessive & chart facts + follow the charts in general.

Just a question: why "would you say you WAS mad..." instead of WERE? ohmy.gif

Posted by: Chez Wombat 13th August 2014, 02:15 PM

Fairly obsessive + Follow the charts in general

It's nowhere near the extent I was when I first listened, but given that was eight years ago, it's no surprise. I do always still follow and listen religiously at the weekend, but I do find chart surprises and inspired new entries are a bit too few these days.

Posted by: steve201 13th August 2014, 02:26 PM

QUOTE(euro music @ Aug 13 2014, 02:34 PM) *
I am highly obsessive about the charts - but not just in the UK but worldwide especially UK, USA, all the European charts & Australia.
This is because I like to see how my favourite acts are doing in other countries and all the other good stuff out there apart from UK & USA.

I think the UK charts are better now as they are slower moving unlike what they were like 10 or 15 years ago when a track charted at it's peak one week and 2 weeks later it had gone, and another couple of weeks the single deleted.
I think including downloads was the best thing that happened to the UK charts.

I also hate cut-down charts like the BBC has just the Top 40. I like them complete such as the full UK Top 100 which is official.
As well as UK & USA, even Ireland has a full Top 100 now as does Germany, Holland, and Australia. France even has the Top 200.

I am also obsessive about archive charts from as far back as possible in different countries.
I even have charts from UK & USA as far back as 1940.

Also it's very rare I listen to UK radio stations - I usually listen to Radio 538 (Holland) or Antenne Bayern (Germany)



And yet in the past 2 years this has been moved back again in terms of peaking in week one!

Posted by: Vidcapper 13th August 2014, 02:28 PM

QUOTE(▬Mart!n▬ @ Aug 13 2014, 12:13 PM) *
How obsessive chart fan are you?

Why do you follow them, for instance favourite acts, chart facts, or just follow the charts in general.

Just to get the general consensus of members that follow the charts, for me its basically just following the chart these days, not following any major act, unless a couple of big acts are releasing in the same week, which makes the chart more exciting,

I'm just fairly obsessive, but I'm leaning towards I don't care about them these days as they have became fairly slow and getting quite a bit of a chore to listen to the chart show on a Sunday afternoon/early evening.


For me it's now almost entirely about the stats - I like only a small % of singles that make the T40. Lately I haven't even been bothering to listen to the chart show.

Posted by: steve201 13th August 2014, 02:31 PM

Vids, how long have you been keeping app sales figures?

Posted by: MĪth 13th August 2014, 03:44 PM

Highly obsessive - following the charts around the world is really my passion.

Posted by: Vidcapper 13th August 2014, 04:37 PM

QUOTE(steve201 @ Aug 13 2014, 03:31 PM) *
Vids, how long have you been keeping app sales figures?


Since 2009 - I took over from the then sales stats keepers Andy & Dave.

Posted by: James1987 13th August 2014, 04:46 PM

QUOTE(*Ben* @ Aug 13 2014, 01:41 PM) *
On MTV Europe I always watched Hit List UK in the 90s. I loved it, but MTV Europe is not about music anymore sad.gif

Also I watched the German charts on the German Viva, but I can't follow it anymore on my cable tv.


I think the charts have less about the music and more of a popularity contest I've almost stopped watching the music channels now as sometimes the same song will be on 5 different channels or an ad break every 5 minutes!

The only way I get to hear new music now is by coming on here or on YouTube

Posted by: Therm• 13th August 2014, 08:48 PM

I do still find the charts interesting, maybe not so much at the moment, as lots of songs that I love these days don't do particularly well and it's very slow at the moment (to be expected of course as we're in the summer lull) but I'd still say highly obsessive judging from the amount I post in this forum.

Posted by: popchartfreak 13th August 2014, 09:07 PM

I've been obsessively following the UK charts since I discovered them age 10 in 1968 (and the US charts to an extent since 1972), and have been passionate about them throughout, and the changing music scene. I adore music, and I've never had problems moving with the musical times.

The reason I've been so vocal about the UK charts lately is I hate what they've become. For the first time in it's history, the UK singles chart has become tedious. I mean, I'm old, I'm supposed to prefer sedate mass-appeal pop records hanging around for months, years, but it's SO boring. Where's the excitement. How is a 10-year-old today going to get fired up with 2 new records a week and the same tracks hanging around for months? The charts when I was a kid were chock-full of competing pop stars, all well-known, and in many different genres, old and new, and the turn-over was pretty fast and exciting. We seem to be in age of one-off world-wide smashes dominating all, pop stars struggling and new popstars are rare, pop is written by committees of writers-for-hire (not necessarily a bad thing in moderation, but it's taken to extremes) and manufactured acts seem to dominate.

The charts aren't helping break new acts at all, traditionally they started with small hits, built up to medium hits and then became big as the fans increased. These days it's Either Number One or you're a flop. In the UK. The rest of the world really doesn't worry about chart positions, and I think we are now down that road unless the music industry get off there fat dull arses and try to rescue it before it's too late.

We need an exciting new music movement to pull the rug from under those controlling everything, we need a new Punk rock equivalent, long overdue....

Posted by: Gezza 13th August 2014, 09:22 PM

I got into the charts in 1988 (yes I'm OLD) and through to around 2004 I listened every weekend religiously. Since then I've had a so-so relationship with them, sometimes I've loved them (2007-2010 being a particularly fine period) but recently, though I still like to know where tracks are, I almost never listen to the chart on a Sunday. FLOP CHART MOD.

Posted by: steve201 13th August 2014, 09:25 PM

QUOTE(Vidcapper @ Aug 13 2014, 05:37 PM) *
Since 2009 - I took over from the then sales stats keepers Andy & Dave.


Ah those are the haven guys right?

Posted by: T Boy 13th August 2014, 09:27 PM

There just isn't an incentive to listen to the chart anymore. I used to be religious about it. But I can find out the top 40 I'm an instant online. Slow moving charts full of the same songs every week and poor quality production of the chart (Jameela reading out the same facts and making the same jokes every week) doesn't make for thrilling listening.

What do the teenagers think of the chart? I really want to know. Is it that I've just become old? At age 25?

Posted by: fiesta 14th August 2014, 01:14 PM

Ive been chart watching for 26 years, but of more recent less obsessed about chart facts - like longest stays at no.1 (not that we get any anymore anyhow..) and sales figures and more pop historian/chart fan. I kind of agree with Popchartfreak we need a movement of some sort and there needs to be a greater variety of genres in the charts.

Posted by: ETH▲N 14th August 2014, 03:26 PM

highly obsessive ~ follow the charts very closely, although lately i am tiring of the ridiculous levels of instability at the top of the chart and the general staleness in the bottom reaches

Posted by: Vidcapper 14th August 2014, 03:38 PM

QUOTE(steve201 @ Aug 13 2014, 10:25 PM) *
Ah those are the haven guys right?


Well Andy is still a regular there - don't know about Dave.

Posted by: euro music 14th August 2014, 05:01 PM

I know we need a little more movement in the Top 100 right now but the movements in #1s is quite ridiculous.

I much preferred it when some singles stay at #1 for 3 or 4 weeks or when they climbed to number one over a number of weeks like Nico & Vinz who've taken 6 weeks to get there.

I hate this straight in at #1 or entering at peak positions.


Posted by: mr_aly 14th August 2014, 05:22 PM

Nico + Vinz may as well have been an entry at #1 really, the only reason it bobbed around in the lower reaches is they had it available for streaming to prepare it for release week, which was last week.

It's not as if it naturally climbed to #1 after 6 weeks or anything.

Posted by: GRIFF 14th August 2014, 05:24 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Aug 13 2014, 10:27 PM) *
There just isn't an incentive to listen to the chart anymore. I used to be religious about it. But I can find out the top 40 I'm an instant online. Slow moving charts full of the same songs every week and poor quality production of the chart (Jameela reading out the same facts and making the same jokes every week) doesn't make for thrilling listening.

What do the teenagers think of the chart? I really want to know. Is it that I've just become old? At age 25?


Music channels often show the chart. People I know enjoy the Big Top 40.

Posted by: Sociopath 14th August 2014, 08:42 PM

I'm incredibly obsessive when it comes to my favourite songs/artists reaching the Top Ten at least because I want them to do well commercially otherwise they might get dropped but at the same time I don't care where my favourite smaller independent artists peak on the charts because their intention is to make music and please fans not bag a Top 40 placing every time! Not saying bigger artists don't want to please their fans, the majority do! ...but a lot of regular top 40 acts are quite manufactured, whether they like it or not and have huge success only to fizzle out within 5-10 years...which is both unfair for the fans and musician/s themselves.

Also I feel big commercial acts experience more pressure to be perfect, to sell out bigger venues and sell large amounts of singles/albums so I feel bad when they flop, especially if they're heavily expected to succeed well by management/the media/fans. I feel smaller artists who are 100% about the music have a relaxed approach to the charts which as a fan is comforting when it comes to the charts, especially with streaming involved.

Also when generic rubbish tops the charts and my favourite artists are at a lower chart place I get annoyed cos I don't think they deserve to be lower than a forgettable dance song.

Posted by: steve201 14th August 2014, 10:17 PM

QUOTE(mr_aly @ Aug 14 2014, 06:22 PM) *
Nico + Vinz may as well have been an entry at #1 really, the only reason it bobbed around in the lower reaches is they had it available for streaming to prepare it for release week, which was last week.

It's not as if it naturally climbed to #1 after 6 weeks or anything.


Yeh it basically did but once streaming becomes even bigger tracks could enter the top 40 before download release . Also I if this specific song had an on air release it would have risen up the chart imo

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