BuzzJack Music Forum _ R&B and Hip-Hop _ Janet Jackson • general discussion
Posted by: Liam.k. 20th April 2020, 06:08 PM
I've had a Janet marathon today, started from 'Control' and I've just completed my first ever listen to her self-titled release. All I can say is that, soon as lockdown is over, the first thing I'm doing is buying those three albums on vinyl. Janet is queen of sexy slow jamz. 'The Velvet Rope' next!
YES LIAM!! The Velvet Rope is my favourite, but janet. and Rhythm Nation are masterpieces too.
I don't thinks she really has a dud album? Her first two are patchy and not the most thrilling of listens, and Discipline is a RIDE, but her consistency is incredible.
Posted by: Liam.k. 20th April 2020, 06:21 PM
Yeah I thought I'd skip her first two as I think 'Control' is where she got into her stride and found her own style.
I'm intrigued to hear her 21st century albums. 'Control' through to 'The Velvet Rope' seem to be adored critically and by fans, but everything after seems to get overlooked. I know 'Unbreakable' is fantastic, probably not heard it in full since its release but I still regularly give 'BURNITUP' a spin.
Posted by: Cremey 20th April 2020, 06:44 PM
You’re in for a treat with The Velvet Rope One of my all time favourite albums.
Janet, Rhythm Nation and The Velvet Rope are my top three too, have always had a soft spot for Damita Jo too though. All For You’s definitely my least favourite, but it’s not bad by any means.
Posted by: Hauspital* 20th April 2020, 07:09 PM
I've split this into a new thread, for whenever we just want to discuss her in general (aka - every week x)
QUOTE(Cremey @ Apr 20 2020, 07:44 PM)
All For You’s definitely my least favourite, but it’s not bad by any means.
All For You has some great moments! 'Come On Get Up', the title track, 'China Love', 'When We Oooo' and 'Better Days' amongst others - wow I really am into this album actually looking at the tracklist!
Posted by: dandy* 20th April 2020, 09:00 PM
For me it goes Janet > The Velvet Rope > Rhythm Nation > Control > the rest. Those 4 are amazing though. The Velvet Rope I really enjoy but I lose interest after I Get Lonely... and it really frustrates me that Special just stops at the moment I really think it needs to explode!
My favourite song these days is If, although it's close between that, This Time and Got 'Til It's Gone.
Posted by: Hauspital* 20th April 2020, 09:38 PM
QUOTE(dandy* @ Apr 20 2020, 10:00 PM)
For me it goes Janet > The Velvet Rope > Rhythm Nation > Control > the rest. Those 4 are amazing though. The Velvet Rope I really enjoy but I lose interest after I Get Lonely... and it really frustrates me that Special just stops at the moment I really think it needs to explode!
My favourite song these days is If, although it's close between that, This Time and Got 'Til It's Gone.
Have you listened to 'Unbreakable' yet? It's a huge return to form for her and very reminiscent of her 'glory days', spliced with Michael Jackson influences.
Posted by: Liam.k. 20th April 2020, 09:50 PM
I'll stick The Velvet Rope on tomorrow and see how much further though her albums I can get! 'Together Again' is a tune, she got it just right with this one with it becoming her biggest hit here in the UK.
A lot of her music will be best appreciated by listening to the albums in full, so if I were to pick favourites that I'd specifically seek out it would the big dance-pop moments like 'Escapade' and 'Miss You Much' (particularly the Shep Pettibone remix for the latter). Those ones have stuck with me since I listened to her Best of Number Ones compilation on Spotify last year - in fact, 'Escapade' is the one to beat! 'That's the Way Love Goes' does sound great in isolation though, the production is so dreamy and soothing that it makes me so peaceful.
Posted by: Hauspital* 21st April 2020, 12:03 AM
QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Apr 20 2020, 10:50 PM)
A lot of her music will be best appreciated by listening to the albums in full, so if I were to pick favourites that I'd specifically seek out it would the big dance-pop moments like 'Escapade' and 'Miss You Much' (particularly the Shep Pettibone remix for the latter). Those ones have stuck with me since I listened to her Best of Number Ones compilation on Spotify last year - in fact, 'Escapade' is the one to beat! 'That's the Way Love Goes' does sound great in isolation though, the production is so dreamy and soothing that it makes me so peaceful.
This is a really interesting point and one I was having with other members off here. Unlike other big stars, I find it difficult to name my favourite singles from her (away from 'Together Again' which is in a league of its own). I find that her singles aren't the reason I am such a fan - it is her albums. They are all such wonderful, complete packages that have to be enjoyed as a full album. I struggle to make a playlist of her songs for example because I always find myself rejecting them in favour of a full album. I always feel the need to value her music with an album rather than a selection of her singles - if any of that makes sense
Posted by: Hauspital* 21st April 2020, 12:05 AM
I've listened to Damita Jo this evening. It's far from my favourite - in fact, it's probably mid/low-table for me but even within this there are songs such as 'Thinkin' Bout My Ex' that are so moving and beautiful. Even in her weakest projects there is a story and moments of complete magic.
Posted by: vibe 21st April 2020, 10:43 AM
You cannot live without 1. The Velvet Rope 2. Control 3. Janet
Liam order them on amazon you will get some bargains !!
Posted by: dandy* 21st April 2020, 11:08 AM
QUOTE(Hauspital* @ Apr 20 2020, 10:38 PM)
Have you listened to 'Unbreakable' yet? It's a huge return to form for her and very reminiscent of her 'glory days', spliced with Michael Jackson influences.
I had this on in the background this morning whilst working, it was okay! I'm not massively inclined to go back to any particular track though - I'm not sure I have a need for it when her earlier albums exist
Posted by: dandy* 21st April 2020, 11:19 AM
ps Liam get the Velvet Rope on red vinyl if you can, it's absolutely lush
Posted by: Simon. 21st April 2020, 12:36 PM
Janet album is amazing, also her last really wasn't that bad.
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 21st April 2020, 03:36 PM
She has had some great albums and songs down through the years, her last couple of albums have not done well though.
Posted by: Liam.k. 21st April 2020, 08:11 PM
QUOTE(Hauspital* @ Apr 21 2020, 01:03 AM)
This is a really interesting point and one I was having with other members off here. Unlike other big stars, I find it difficult to name my favourite singles from her (away from 'Together Again' which is in a league of its own). I find that her singles aren't the reason I am such a fan - it is her albums. They are all such wonderful, complete packages that have to be enjoyed as a full album. I struggle to make a playlist of her songs for example because I always find myself rejecting them in favour of a full album. I always feel the need to value her music with an album rather than a selection of her singles - if any of that makes sense
That completely makes sense. I tend to favour albums that take me on some sort of journey and it's clear with these classic Janet albums that they've been specifically crafted to give you the full listening experience. I'm looking forward to future listens so I can uncover new things about them!
I reckon I'll purchase her 2009 best of because there are many singles I can listen to in isolation and it'll be a great addition to my car journeys, but yes those albums are all very special.
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I listened to The Velvet Rope today - another class album from Janet (I'll look out for the red vinyl, Dandy, it does look lush but nearly £90 on Amazon, eek!). 'Got Til It's Gone', 'Go Deep' and 'What About' are all standouts but, as established above, the full album is an experience. I've also been returning to 'If' today, so that's one of my top picks from her self-titled!
Posted by: Cremey 22nd April 2020, 08:05 AM
Completely agree about her albums being such complete packages! She's definitely an album artist in that sense.
In terms of favourite songs, these would be high on my list: Love Will Never Do (Without You) Velvet Rope If Every Time You Rhythm Nation
No Sleeep is probably up there too now, so smooth.
Posted by: Liam.k. 24th April 2020, 07:29 PM
I listened to all four Noughties albums but I can't say they really hooked me. I was doing other things when listening (although tbf I did the same with the other albums) so I might give them another go with headphones.
Found this megamix which I'm loving. 'Nasty' vocals over 'If' instrumental is fierce and there's a great order of songs.
Posted by: Hauspital* 29th April 2020, 08:55 PM
The 'Control' album is currently in the top 10 on US iTunes Is it because of a similar reason to Mariah's 'E=MC2' resurgance? Either way, great to see it!
Posted by: Liam.k. 29th April 2020, 09:03 PM
Random but deserved! Can Madonna be next?
Posted by: Jordan Lee 29th April 2020, 09:26 PM
Janets always been someone for me who I’ve never fully gotten tbh aside from a few tracks.
Like it’s her music itself though what doesn’t grab me I can’t deny her talents as a show woman or deny she made/makes strong visuals it’s just the actual songs on their own sort of go over my head.
I feel similar to Beyoncé and it’s strange that I’ve noticed that Janet in some ways was like the OG Bey. I think it could be that Janet wasn’t a Major vocalist or an artist who’s material was heavily pop which may be why I wasn’t as invested in her as I was other females who were around the same time she was.
I will say Together Again is stunning and is one of my favourite all time tracks. It’s interesting Janet was huge in the US though yet in the UK she didn’t have the same level of success. I think an average UK person would be pushed to name say 5 Janet songs off the top of their head but everyone would know who she was by face.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 29th April 2020, 10:12 PM
Your two favourite Britney albums contain Janet influences!
Janet was phenomenally successful in the US, and while she was still a big star in the UK she was usually more successful with albums than singles. For instance 'Rhythm Nation 1814' reached #4 and certified Platinum, even though none of the singles from it went Top 10. She hit her commercial peak with 'janet.' reaching #1, and after that her 'Design of a Decade 1986/1996' collection was an even bigger seller!
Amazing to see Janet joining Mariah in the US iTunes Top 10!
I really need to get around to listening to all of Janet's albums - I've only heard Control, The Velvet Rope and Unbreakable in full.
Posted by: Liam.k. 30th April 2020, 12:00 AM
QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Apr 29 2020, 10:03 PM)
Random but deserved! Can Madonna be next?
And if by magic... 'Bedtime Stories' is at #22!!
Posted by: HausofGhibli 18th August 2020, 11:44 AM
Happy 2nd birthday to 'Made For Now'!
Janet has celebrated this anniversary on her social media with a fun-filled BTS video:
What are your thoughts on the song, two years on?
Posted by: Jay* 18th August 2020, 07:33 PM
I love it! It's one of my favourite Janet songs
2 years since then and still no follow up though
Posted by: HausofGhibli 20th October 2020, 07:05 PM
Some of you may have seen these Madonna fan made covers (in comic style). http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=229761 ~ They are an absolute TREAT. Very, very happy that the artist behind these has decided to create the same for JANET's albums
Here is the first in the instalment: 'Control'
Posted by: Liam.k. 20th October 2020, 07:14 PM
Yess!! Been waiting so long for these ones and the first installment doesn't disappoint! The next three will be rich with possible material.
For those who don't know, references to each song are included in these pieces - can you spot them all?
Posted by: Liam.k. 23rd October 2020, 10:22 PM
Slant Magazine have ranked Janet's albums - were they right?
This is a great ranking! My top 5 is the same here albeit in a slightly different order. The correct #1 too obviously
Posted by: HausofHitchcock 12th November 2020, 09:21 PM
One of my favourites of the ones he has done recently!
Posted by: Liam.k. 12th November 2020, 09:28 PM
Oh yes I LOVE that one!
Posted by: Liam.k. 4th December 2020, 07:08 AM
Omg yes! *.*
Posted by: Christmasteve201 4th December 2020, 10:29 PM
Watched her perform ‘Rhythm Nation’ on TOTP 1989 this week
Posted by: Santa Haus 4th December 2020, 10:33 PM
QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Dec 4 2020, 07:08 AM)
Omg yes! *.*
The image is great, but I don't know, for me it doesn't suit the vibe of the album. Or at least what the album sounds and looks like in my head when I hear it Can't know the talent though!
Posted by: Cremey 4th December 2020, 10:38 PM
Agreed! Absolutely love it, but it doesn’t really fit the album for me either. Can’t WAIT to see the Velvet Rope one 😍 I’ve been listening to it a lot recently and I’ll just never tire of it. In my top 5 albums of all time ❤️
Posted by: Cremey 4th December 2020, 10:40 PM
Also makes me realise how much we need new music from her soon. Hopefully the album will be out next year – I’m sure it would’ve been out this year if it wasn’t for the pandemic 🙃
Posted by: Liam.k. 14th January 2021, 10:36 PM
Happy Birthday to where it all properly started!
Posted by: Simon. 18th January 2021, 12:22 PM
Just played Discipline for the first time in full in years, the first half still sounds great!
Also been obsessed with the Janet album after finding the vinyl on Amazon for cheaper than usual, 'This Time' is so good
Posted by: Among Haus 2nd February 2021, 08:00 PM
This is a STUNNING piece of art. The full image is great. Took a second glance to realise it wasn't some hybrid Octopus/tentacle-Janet
It doesn't really give me the vibes of the album that I personally get when listening to it, but can't fault it beyond that.
Posted by: dandy* 2nd February 2021, 08:12 PM
I don't immediately think of the album either from the graphics but I agree it's a good composition. I wonder if the artist is as familiar with Janet's work as he was with the discographies of Madonna and Björk as he doesn't seem to be including as many of the hints towards tracks as he did with those.
Posted by: Simon. 3rd February 2021, 11:56 AM
How good was 'So Much Betta' from Discipline
Posted by: Among Haus 4th February 2021, 07:03 PM
The Control album turns 35! Janet has acknowledged the milestone on her social media:
From the album cover right through every single track, it's a hugely influential and important album. Her first, of many, masterpieces!
Posted by: Jay❄ 4th February 2021, 07:44 PM
Happy anniversary, Control Give me a beat!
Posted by: Among Haus 7th February 2021, 12:04 AM
There seems to be a download campaign to celebrate the anniversary. It has managed to get to #1 on the US pop iTunes album chart (~#20 on full iTunes chart).
Posted by: tommie 7th February 2021, 10:27 AM
QUOTE(Among Haus @ Feb 7 2021, 01:04 AM)
There seems to be a download campaign to celebrate the anniversary. It has managed to get to #1 on the US pop iTunes album chart (~#20 on full iTunes chart).
#16 now.
Although it's sad that it just doesn't breeze into the #1 spot, but maybe a lot of people already own it on iTunes? Either way it just feels like her fanbase has scattered over the years - even during 20YO it felt like there was a solid fanbase at least. I think her not releasing as regularly has a lot to do with that though - it was 7 years between Discipline and Unbreakable and now it's been six years since that album. I also think Michael's past resurfacing affected her negatively.
Posted by: Liam.k. 11th February 2021, 12:33 PM
I spent yesterday watching through a chunk of Janet's music videos, starting from the 'Control' era. That run of 'The Pleasure Principle' -> 'Miss You Much' -> 'Rhythm Nation'... wow! That choreography! I think 'Alright' is my favourite so far (I've got up to her first greatest hits album) and I realised that it must have inspired the routine between Oti and Bill Bailey's "couple's choice" dance on the last series of Strictly!
Posted by: Liam.k. 4th March 2021, 02:13 PM
Posted by: Among Haus 4th March 2021, 06:08 PM
! Wow, this will be essential viewing if done right. She has one of the most fascinating careers in music.
Posted by: tommie 4th March 2021, 08:40 PM
IDK. I wonder if they'll even touch upon Leaving Neverland to be honest, or just tip-toe around it.
Posted by: Envoirment 4th March 2021, 08:43 PM
Will definitley have to watch it. I hope they get down to the nitty gritty and don't gloss over a number of subjects.
"All For You" is still a bop.
Posted by: tommie 4th March 2021, 08:45 PM
QUOTE(Envoirment @ Mar 4 2021, 09:43 PM)
Will definitley have to watch it. I hope they get down to the nitty gritty and don't gloss over a number of subjects.
Reading the article it's executive produced by Randy, so I very much doubt it.
Posted by: Liam.k. 5th March 2021, 11:40 AM
Posted by: Nina West 14th March 2021, 05:22 PM
My ranking of Janet Jackson's albums
01. The Velvet Rope 02. Rhythm Nation 1814 03. Janet 04. Control 05. Unbreakable 06. Damita Jo 07. All For You 08. Discipline 09. 20 Y.O.
Posted by: kerpisse 23rd March 2021, 05:52 AM
In terms of this battle, I never actually expected Janet to win. But I cant agree with you. Michael, at his best, did better than Janet ever did, however I think over the course of their two careers assuming your just talking solo stuff. The Jackson 5/The Jacksons might put Michael over the edge. Its arguable., Janets overall body of work is better than Michaels. He had two excellent albums, and a couple of good singles otherwise. She was good from Control until All For You. 86-01. Whether you can give that credit to Janet herself, or Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, I dont know. You can make the same argument for Michael and Quincy Jones, though. ETA: Of course, in terms of just singles, Michael blows Janet out of the water.
Posted by: Liam.k. 1st June 2021, 12:39 AM
'All For You' is finally unblocked and available to view worldwide! Remastered in HD too.
Posted by: -Jay- 1st June 2021, 09:05 AM
Finally! So bizarre that it was restricted to Canada and Japan for 10 years. Her online presence with music videos still requires a lot of work
Posted by: Simon. 1st June 2021, 10:22 AM
QUOTE(-Jay- @ Jun 1 2021, 10:05 AM)
Her online presence with music videos still requires a lot of work
I agree, it's so weird though, isn't she on a big label who could easily sort this?
Posted by: Jade 6th September 2021, 07:44 PM
Hyped for this!
Posted by: HausofGucci 11th January 2022, 05:47 PM
Ahead of her documentary, Janet has covered Allure magazine and it's a great photoshoot. This image in particular is stunning:
She also did a breakdown of some of her videos for Allure which was uploaded last month:
Fascinating watch! I could do with a follow up tbh.
Posted by: Sour Candy 11th January 2022, 06:45 PM
Love her, please have a comeback!!!
Posted by: HausofGucci 31st January 2022, 07:35 AM
The documentary is out in the US. Nice to see a boost for her back catalogue:
iTunes Albums: 4. Control 6. Design of a Decade 1986/1996 9. Rhythm Nation 1814 13. Janet. 16. The Velvet Rope 18. Best of Number Ones 26. Unbreakable 52. Damita Jo 55. All for You 60. Discipline 96. 20 Y.O.
Posted by: Chemistry 31st January 2022, 11:09 AM
Good to see her getting a boost, very much deserved as the last 15 years have been so difficult for her. So underrated. Always very curious to see the show but it doesn't seem to be available online everywhere.
Posted by: HausofGucci 6th February 2022, 05:45 PM
Finished the documentary series and am blown away with it. I thought I loved her before but learning about her life has made me respect her even more than I did before. A phenomonal woman and blueprint for music!
I have a link if anyone wants it to watch it online~
Posted by: Liam.k. 6th February 2022, 08:25 PM
Ooh yes please!
Posted by: Simon. 9th February 2022, 08:47 AM
QUOTE(HausofGucci @ Feb 6 2022, 05:45 PM)
Finished the documentary series and am blown away with it. I thought I loved her before but learning about her life has made me respect her even more than I did before. A phenomonal woman and blueprint for music!
I have a link if anyone wants it to watch it online~
I agree, she's amazing.
So good of her to tell Justin Timberlake to stay quiet during the Superbowl, he's been quite lucky in his career avoiding scandals.
Posted by: vibe 12th February 2022, 01:43 PM
Watching Rhythm Nation Tour on Youtube for the first time!!
Such a shame its terribly lit!!
Posted by: -Jay- 4th October 2022, 06:14 AM
A new Deluxe version of The Velvet Rope is being released digitally on Friday!
Disc 1: 1. Interlude -Twisted Elegance 2. Velvet Rope [feat. Vanessa-Mae] 3. You 4. Got 'Til It's Gone [feat. Q-Tip & Joni Mitchell] 5. Interlude - Speaker Phone 6. My Need 7. Interlude - Fasten Your Seatbelts 8. Go Deep 9. Free Xone 10. Interlude - Memory 11. Together Again 12. Interlude - Online 13. Empty 14. Interlude - Full 15. What About 16. Every Time 17. Tonight's The Night 18. I Get Lonely 19. Rope Burn 20. Anything 21. Interlude - Sad 22. Special 23. Can't Be Stopped 24. Accept Me [Bonus Track] * 25. God's Stepchild [Bonus Track] *
Disc 2: 1. I Get Lonely (TNT Remix Edit) with BLACKstreet * 2. Got 'Til It's Gone (Ummah Jay Dee's Revenge Mix) * 3. Go Deep (Timbaland/Missy Remix) featuring Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott * 4. Together Again (Jimmy Jam Deeper Mix) * 5. Every Time (Jam & Lewis Disco Mix) 6. I Get Lonely (Jam & Lewis Feel My Bass Mix) * 7. Got 'Til It's Gone (David Morales & Frankie Knuckles Def Club Mix) * 8. Together Again (Tony Moran 12" Club Mix) * 9. Go Deep (Masters at Work Thunder Mix) * 10. Together Again (Tony Humphries Club Mix Edit) 11. I Get Lonely (Jason vs. Janet The Club Remix) 12. Go Deep (Masters At Work Vocal Deep Disco Dub) 13. Got 'Til It's Gone (Armand Van Helden Bonus Beats) * = new to streaming
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Slowly but surely her presence on streaming and YouTube is improving. The situation with videos on YouTube has been a mess for a very long time. A lot weren't uploaded, while others were blocked from being able to be viewed in most countries (so bizarre!). Understandably this really irritated her fanbase.
Uploaded in 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4azpcnXG3g, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujnq2v6R02U, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPTK7LOj24k, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0dqk6Vybeo, Doesn't Really Matter Unblocked in 2022: I Get Lonely, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SXKHiPQPhk, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hce2pQvJ6eA, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO2-iFjjht4
^ Together Again in HD looks artificial, I think it's just AI software. It's preferable to 360p, but I wish they'd have been able to find the original reels for it and work on it again, because it's such a stunning video and I don't think its current quality really does it much justice.
As things stand these are still missing from her channel: Alright, Runaway, Together Again (Go Deeper Remix), You, Everytime, Just A Little While & All Nite (Don't Stop).
Doesn't Really Matter was only uploaded 3 days ago:
Make Me has been re-uploaded in 4K!
I Get Lonely has been on her channel since 17th November 2010 but it was blocked throughout most of the world until 4 days ago. In almost 12 years it only managed 220,000 views. I'd love to know how or why her record label didn't notice or care until now. Not only that but this video's default picture used to be Beverley Knight Come As You Are CD sleeve image, but thankfully they've updated that too!
It was this:
Posted by: tommie 4th October 2022, 07:19 AM
The I Get So Lonely situation is weird because it's not like it was some low-charting single - it went #3 in the US and #5 in the UK!
On the other hand it goes in hand with her (former) label(s) not really caring about her stuff for whatever reason; I remember in the early 00s, pre-YouTube, streaming and social media that everyone was complaining how messy her (lack of) updated certifications were! Hopefully they'll start sorting that out too.
ETA: Janet actually hasn't had a RIAA certification since 2006 (!) when the label quickly certified 20YO as Gold.
Posted by: TheInvisibleMan 4th October 2022, 08:28 AM
Still waiting for the release of Special (the not cut off just as it’s properly building 2022 right that wrong remix)
Posted by: Liam.k. 4th October 2022, 04:47 PM
When I checked out Janet's discography at the start of lockdown, I do remember her YouTube channel being an absolute shambles. I had noticed a few videos being unblocked last year (the key one I remember was 'All for You') and I'm glad that's continued to the point where we nearly have all her videos uploaded.
25 anniversary of 'The Velvet Rope' in a few days! Need to revisit her albums again as it's been a while since I've listened.
Posted by: HausSucksBlood 4th October 2022, 07:02 PM
25 years since one of my favourite albums of all time. The Velvet Rope is such a special listen, it evokes so many emotions throughout it. I am super excited for the deluxe version!
Also:
Posted by: -Jay- 4th October 2022, 07:18 PM
Justice for Just a Little While! a song I've barely ever heard
P.S.
Posted by: Liam.k. 4th October 2022, 07:23 PM
Come As You Are is a fucking tune tho.
Posted by: -Jay- 4th October 2022, 07:26 PM
This is now the Come As You Are appreciation thread:
Omg at that 240p quality
Posted by: Liam.k. 4th October 2022, 07:42 PM
Posted by: tommie 4th October 2022, 07:45 PM
Christ, Beverly Knight also needs updating on her YouTube page.
Posted by: Herbs 4th October 2022, 07:46 PM
I remember being obsessed with this song when it came out & I was sooooo happy when it made the top 10
Posted by: Axe Wound 4th October 2022, 07:46 PM
This was a great sang
Posted by: tommie 4th October 2022, 07:47 PM
not people unironically turning this into a come as you are appreciation thread ajsjdhfhf
Posted by: JosephStyles 4th October 2022, 07:55 PM
Incredible song
Posted by: HausSucksBlood 4th October 2022, 07:59 PM
👀
What has happened to this once glorious, perfect thread x
Posted by: Liam.k. 4th October 2022, 08:15 PM
It got better *.*
Posted by: Mullo 7th October 2022, 11:52 AM
25th anniversary edition of THE VELVET ROPE is out today
Janet Jackson will reissue The Velvet Rope on Friday, October 7, for the classic album’s 25th anniversary. The new edition comes with two rarities, “Accept Me” and “God’s Stepchild,” as well as 13 remixes, many of which are streaming for the first time. Several videos from the album will also be remastered for the release.
Posted by: TheInvisibleMan 7th October 2022, 12:03 PM
I'm not mad on any of the bonus material here. The Tony Humphries mix of Together Again is quite nice (although not a patch on the original obvs) but my main thought about it is how long must the original mix be if the edit version is still 10 mins!
Posted by: HausSucksBlood 7th October 2022, 08:48 PM
♥️♥️♥️
Posted by: -Jay- 7th October 2022, 09:08 PM
QUOTE(TheInvisibleMan @ Oct 7 2022, 01:03 PM)
The Tony Humphries mix of Together Again is quite nice (although not a patch on the original obvs) but my main thought about it is how long must the original mix be if the edit version is still 10 mins!
Out of curiosity I tried to find out! Oddly the Tony Humphries Club Mix is shorter - 6m 43s This 10 minute version was tagged as "12" Edit Mix" back in 1997 as well and there's no longer versions on any release.
Posted by: Jessie Where 8th October 2022, 12:18 AM
Free Xone
Posted by: vibe 8th October 2022, 09:13 AM
The Velvet Rope is a 10
Posted by: tommie 8th October 2022, 09:28 AM
QUOTE(vibe @ Oct 8 2022, 09:13 AM)
The Velvet Rope is a 10
When I was an angsty gay teenager, I thought it was the best album ever, but in hindsight, I think it's a slight step-down from the perfection of the run Control-Rhythm Nation-janet.
Not that it's bad, mind you, just that it comes off as a bit self-indulgent at some points.
Posted by: Tafty³³³ 8th October 2022, 11:20 AM
QUOTE(-Jay- @ Oct 4 2022, 08:18 PM)
Justice for Just a Little While! a song I've barely ever heard
No but seriously YES!!!!! I love this song soooo much!
I need to continue my Janet J discography listen. I think I heard up to (and including) 'Control'... but 'Control' didn't hit me as much as I thought it would and I didn't go back for a while. I'll probably start from that album and give it another listen though. Excited for 'Rhythm Nation' and 'Velvet Rope' listen throughs though.
Posted by: dannjohn 8th October 2022, 01:37 PM
Enjoy has to be one of her most underrated tracks. Alongside Nothing.
Posted by: J00prstar 8th October 2022, 04:31 PM
I got really into Janet this year. I think she's having a club renaissance in terms of her older work
Posted by: -Jay- 9th October 2022, 11:25 PM
QUOTE(-Jay- @ Oct 4 2022, 07:14 AM)
Make Me has been re-uploaded in 4K!
This is doing oddly well - currently 825,620 views since it was uploaded on 2nd October. Browsing though the comments, some people appear to be under the impression that it's a brand new Janet single
Just to compare it to a couple of her other recent uploads - Doesn't Really Matter: 133,424 views since 1st October / Just a Little While: 105,993 views since 4th October. I wonder what is causing Make Me to receive far more attention? The algorithm working in its favour?
The original SD version of Make Me which was uploaded on 23rd Nov 2009 has 2,028,756 total views. So in a little over a week the new HD version has achieved 40% of the views that the original upload has taken almost 13 years to achieve. I'm wondering if the original upload was/is blocked in certain countries, because 2m views in all that time is incredibly low!
Runaway isn't on her official channel, but a fan page had a go at making it HD. Close up shots look great, but some of it is horrifying
Posted by: Tafty³³³ 11th October 2022, 01:21 PM
QUOTE(Tafty³³³ @ Oct 8 2022, 12:20 PM)
No but seriously YES!!!!! I love this song soooo much!
I need to continue my Janet J discography listen. I think I heard up to (and including) 'Control'... but 'Control' didn't hit me as much as I thought it would and I didn't go back for a while. I'll probably start from that album and give it another listen though. Excited for 'Rhythm Nation' and 'Velvet Rope' listen throughs though.
OK... restarting this today and I must not have listened to 'Control' coz this album is H I T T I N G the right spots for me and I'm 5 tracks in... so yeah I'm not sure I did listen to it. So glad I went back to it and didn't skip over it thinking I had already listened to it!!!
Posted by: HausSucksBlood 11th October 2022, 04:36 PM
Yes! Really happy to hear that. Control is really where she began as an artist so I'm so excited for you to listen to what else is to come. Maybe repeated listens for the next 3 albums too
Posted by: Liam.k. 18th November 2022, 01:35 PM
New certification in the US (copied from PopJustice):
Nasty (Platinum) When I Think of You (Platinum) Rhythm Nation (Platinum) Escapade (Platinum) That's the Way Love Goes (2x Platinum) If (Platinum) Any Time, Any Place (Platinum) Together Again (Platinum) I Get Lonely (Platinum) All for You (Platinum) Feedback (Platinum)
Posted by: Liam.k. 18th May 2023, 09:00 PM
30 years since the release of ‘janet.’
Posted by: HausofKubrick 19th May 2023, 05:47 AM
She's released a vinyl for it. I've already got it on stunning vinyl but snap it up if you haven't. A album
I was doing other things when listening (although tbf I did the same with the other albums) so I might give them another go with headphones.
Is it because of a similar reason to Mariah's 'E=MC2' resurgance? Either way, great to see it! 
Can't know the talent though!
This 10 minute version was tagged as "12" Edit Mix" back in 1997 as well and there's no longer versions on any release. 
