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Posted by: Liam.k. 8th April 2020, 07:24 PM

Welcome all! Following on from 2018's Singles Rate, it's time to shine a spotlight on some hidden gems. Album tracks, B-sides, soundtracks, these are the songs officially available but weren't released as singles. There's over 200 songs to rate so I've separated into four categories to make this less daunting: PWL era, DeCon era, 00s and 10s (the Parlophone era is too big to have in one section and having the 80s as its own section would be disproportionately small).

We start with the PWL era. Give them all a rate between 0-10, allowing for an optional 11 and -1.

I've made a Spotify playlist below so you can listen to any you're unfamiliar with.



I Miss You
I'll Still Be Loving You
Look My Way
Love at First Sight [1988]



Nothing to Lose
Tell Tale Signs
My Secret Heart
I'm Over Dreaming (Over You)
Heaven and Earth
Enjoy Yourself



Secrets
Always Find the Time
The World Still Turns
One Boy Girl
Things Can Only Get Better
Count the Days
Rhythm of Love



Too Much of a Good Thing
Let's Get To It
Right Here, Right Now [1991]
Live and Learn
No World Without You
I Guess I Like It Like That



Getting Closer
Glad to Be Alive
Made in Heaven

All I Wanna Do is Make You Mine (with Jason Donovan)
Just Wanna Love You
We Know the Meaning of Love

I Am the One for You

Closer
Do You Dare?
Say the Word - I'll Be There

Where in the World

Posted by: Liam.k. 8th April 2020, 07:25 PM

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 9th April 2020, 12:30 PM

I will rate this later on.

Posted by: SamJudd 9th April 2020, 05:46 PM

Posted by: Liam.k. 9th April 2020, 05:50 PM

Thanks Sam! We seem to have similar album favourites - I'm listening through now and 'Things Can Only Get Better' would have been a perfect fifth single!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 9th April 2020, 09:01 PM

07 I Miss You
07 I'll Still Be Loving You
07 Look My Way
08 Love at First Sight [1988]

10 Nothing to Lose
07 Tell Tale Signs
06 My Secret Heart
10 I'm Over Dreaming (Over You)
06 Heaven and Earth
11 Enjoy Yourself

08 Secrets
10 Always Find the Time
07 The World Still Turns
06 One Boy Girl
10 Things Can Only Get Better
07 Count the Days
07 Rhythm of Love

07 Too Much of a Good Thing
07 Let's Get To It
07 Right Here, Right Now [1991]
05 Live and Learn
05 No World Without You
10 I Guess I Like It Like That

06 Getting Closer
06 Glad to Be Alive
10 Made in Heaven

10 All I Wanna Do is Make You Mine (with Jason Donovan)
07 Just Wanna Love You
08 We Know the Meaning of Love

09 I Am the One for You

04 Closer
06 Do You Dare?
07 Say the Word - I'll Be There

09 Where in the World

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th April 2020, 08:20 AM

08 I Miss You
09 I'll Still Be Loving You
08 Look My Way
09 Love at First Sight [1988]

07 Nothing to Lose
07 Tell Tale Signs
07 My Secret Heart
10 I'm Over Dreaming (Over You)
08 Heaven and Earth
11 Enjoy Yourself

08 Secrets
10 Always Find the Time
08 The World Still Turns
07 One Boy Girl
09 Things Can Only Get Better
07 Count the Days
07 Rhythm of Love

06 Too Much of a Good Thing
06 Let's Get To It
06 Right Here, Right Now [1991]
07 Live and Learn
07 No World Without You
06 I Guess I Like It Like That

07 Getting Closer
06 Glad to Be Alive
09 Made in Heaven

08 All I Wanna Do is Make You Mine (with Jason Donovan)
08 Just Wanna Love You
07 We Know the Meaning of Love

06 I Am the One for You

07 Closer
06 Do You Dare?
10 Say the Word - I'll Be There

09 Where in the World

Posted by: Monzo 11th April 2020, 04:53 PM

05 I Miss You
05 I'll Still Be Loving You
06 Look My Way
06 Love at First Sight [1988]

10 Nothing to Lose
04 Tell Tale Signs
04 My Secret Heart
11 I'm Over Dreaming (Over You)
06 Heaven and Earth
08 Enjoy Yourself

08 Secrets
10 Always Find the Time
04 The World Still Turns
10 One Boy Girl
10 Things Can Only Get Better
07 Count the Days
09 Rhythm of Love

10 Too Much of a Good Thing
08 Let's Get To It
10 Right Here, Right Now [1991]
09 Live and Learn
04 No World Without You
10 I Guess I Like It Like That

05 Getting Closer
05 Glad to Be Alive
09 Made in Heaven

09 All I Wanna Do is Make You Mine (with Jason Donovan)
08 Just Wanna Love You
10 We Know the Meaning of Love

06 I Am the One for You

06 Closer
08 Do You Dare?
04 Say the Word - I'll Be There

04 Where in the World

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 11th April 2020, 06:21 PM

This has once again led me to pulling out enjoy yourself album, such a great album, enjoy yourself never fails to lift my mood.

Posted by: Liam.k. 12th April 2020, 05:52 PM

Thanks for the votes so far!

Posted by: ___∆___ 13th April 2020, 11:14 AM

I love EY - such a solid pop album and I still listen to it a lot

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 13th April 2020, 02:28 PM

EY is so overlooked by many but it's my fave pwl album.

Posted by: Monzo 15th April 2020, 07:36 AM

Just curious: Did or do you enjoy other PWL music or is it Kylie only? Me, it was also Jason Donovan, of course. I'm still loving Donna Summer's PWL album and Lonnie Gordon's "Happening All Over Again". Big Fun and Sonia also bring back sweet childhood memories. "I Just Don't Have The Heart" is the only Cliff Richard song I ever played a lot, so I really enjoyed Stock Aitken Waterman productions from their Kylie era, still wondering why they vanished so fast in the early 90's.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th April 2020, 01:29 PM

I loved so many pwl stuff, I was a big Jason Donovan fan, really loved his 2nd album between the lines, Sonias debut was great and was so happy to see it re released a few years ago with the bonus tracks, everybody knows is a real pop gem of an album. Another gem from this time was the London boys 12 commandments of dance album which again was great to see re released.So many big hits from pwl back then and kylie was the only one to sustain a career the whole way through to now. Big fun I liked handful of promises and pat and mick I havnt stopped dancing yet, I never ever managed to get their album when released and still havnt yet. Rick astley also had some great songs and he has done well again in the last few years.

Posted by: Monzo 15th April 2020, 04:27 PM

I'm still listening to that album, not just the singles, but I really love "London Nights" and "Harlem Desire". Whenever I listen to "Requiem" it makes me sad. I just checked: London Boys are dead for 24 years now. Feels like yesterday I was shocked about their death.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th April 2020, 05:02 PM

It was so tragic what happened the London boys and great to see another fan, i listen to their album alot, never understood why my love flopped in the uk as it's great, it went top 20 here in ireland. London boys always remind me of kylie performing hand on your heart on totp.

Posted by: Monzo 15th April 2020, 05:15 PM

I read that many tracks on Boy Krazy's album were originally written for Kylie's fifth PWL album if it had happened. I enjoyed all Boy Krazy singles and some album tracks like "Different Class", but I can't image any of these songs being good enough for Kylie. I don't see any single (or even album) material there.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th April 2020, 07:05 PM

Never heard of boy crazy,,I will look them up,,any songs you wiukdcrecommend?

Posted by: dandy* 15th April 2020, 07:23 PM

Is this likely to be open for a little while? If you're doing all the eras then I'd love to take a listen as I'm not familiar with most of these at all.

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th April 2020, 10:31 PM

Hey Dandy, yeah I'm planning on leaving these open for a bit. I'm going to post the second part but this one will remain open, then all votes of each era will be combined, much like the Ultimate Madonna thread.

Posted by: Monzo 16th April 2020, 06:48 AM

Boy Krazy were one of Stock & Waterman's final acts who had little or no sucess in the UK like Delage, The Twins or Nancy Davis. About two years after Boy Krazy's debut single "That's What Love Can Do" had flopped in the UK where it peaked at 86, a famous US radio dj heard the song in a club and fell in love with it. He put it on his radio playlist and the rest is history: "That's What Love Can Do" became a top 20 US Hot 100 hit, Their follow-uo "Good Times With Bad Boys" charted in Hot 100, too, but then Boy Krazy's lead singer left and the group quit.

I've discovered Boy Krazy in 1993 when they were big in the US and I remember how nice it was to have new PWL material once again. Bananarama and Sybil were also around that time with Stock & Waterman songs, but I have to say Boy Krazy are more classic PWL.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th April 2020, 10:10 AM

I listened to that what love can do, it feels like a Sonia b side, not as catchy as much of the pwl work. I loved sybils the love I lost and when I'm good and ready, the love I lost especially was catchy. I also enjoyed the bananarama pwl work. From listening to that's what love can do I'm happy kylie didnt do a 5th pwl studio album. When kylie announced she was leaving pwl I was worried at the time but it was a great decision as I dont think she would be as successful as she was long term had she stayed.

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th April 2020, 11:08 PM

06 I Miss You
06 I'll Still Be Loving You
06 Look My Way
04 Love at First Sight [1988]

07 Nothing to Lose
05 Tell Tale Signs
05 My Secret Heart
09 I'm Over Dreaming (Over You)
04 Heaven and Earth
07 Enjoy Yourself

07 Secrets
08 Always Find the Time
07 The World Still Turns
07 One Boy Girl
09 Things Can Only Get Better
06 Count the Days
06 Rhythm of Love

07 Too Much of a Good Thing
07 Let's Get To It
08 Right Here, Right Now [1991]
07 Live and Learn
06 No World Without You
07 I Guess I Like It Like That

06 Getting Closer
04 Glad to Be Alive
07 Made in Heaven

03 All I Wanna Do is Make You Mine (with Jason Donovan)
05 Just Wanna Love You
04 We Know the Meaning of Love

06 I Am the One for You

07 Closer
07 Do You Dare?
06 Say the Word - I'll Be There

05 Where in the World

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th April 2020, 11:12 PM

I seem to be alone in really liking kylie and Jason's all I wanna do.

Posted by: Monzo 18th April 2020, 05:15 PM

I'm wondering if Kylie had stayed with PWL what songs would have been on her 5th album, so I listened to Stock & Waterman produced albums from 1992 & 1993, imagining how Kylie could have sung them or if they were originally written for her. Here are my picks for Kylie's 5th PWL album:

Bananarama: Please Yourself
- Last Thing On My Mind (2nd single because Pete Waterman loves this song so much Steps had to record it, too)
- More, More, More (3rd single because three out of four Kylie's PWL albums had cover versions as single release)

Sybil: Good 'N' Ready
- When I'm Good And Ready (1st single)
- Stronger Together (4th single)
- Didn't See The Signs

Boy Krazy: Boy Krazy
- Good Times With Bad Boys
- Different Class

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 18th April 2020, 05:25 PM

A 5th album just wouldnt have worked and would have have had disappointing sales.i do like last thing on my mind but couldn't see it as a kylie single and it would have been a step backwards for kylie.

Posted by: dandy* 24th April 2020, 04:22 PM

03 I Miss You
05 I'll Still Be Loving You
03 Look My Way
04 Love at First Sight [1988]

03 Nothing to Lose
05 Tell Tale Signs
02 My Secret Heart
07 I'm Over Dreaming (Over You)
02 Heaven and Earth
07 Enjoy Yourself

05 Secrets
05 Always Find the Time
03 The World Still Turns
04 One Boy Girl
07 Things Can Only Get Better
03 Count the Days
05 Rhythm of Love

04 Too Much of a Good Thing
01 Let's Get To It
04 Right Here, Right Now [1991]
02 Live and Learn
05 No World Without You
07 I Guess I Like It Like That

05 Getting Closer
02 Glad to Be Alive
01 Made in Heaven

03 All I Wanna Do is Make You Mine (with Jason Donovan)
01 Just Wanna Love You
02 We Know the Meaning of Love

05 I Am the One for You

08 Closer
07 Do You Dare?
05 Say the Word - I'll Be There

01 Where in the World


Hmmmm this was largely quite a trial. Closer was the main keeper - and I couldn't help but laugh at the 2 Unlimited soundalike I Guess I Like It Like That!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 24th April 2020, 05:41 PM

I love I guess I like it like that

Posted by: Hide&Seek 24th April 2020, 08:00 PM

08 I Miss You
10 I'll Still Be Loving You
10 Look My Way
10 Love at First Sight [1988]

07 Nothing to Lose
07 Tell Tale Signs
07 My Secret Heart
10 I'm Over Dreaming (Over You)
07 Heaven and Earth
10 Enjoy Yourself

08 Secrets
09 Always Find the Time
10 The World Still Turns
09 One Boy Girl
10 Things Can Only Get Better
10 Count the Days
10 Rhythm of Love

06 Too Much of a Good Thing
06 Let's Get To It
06 Right Here, Right Now [1991]
05 Live and Learn
09 No World Without You
08 I Guess I Like It Like That

09 Getting Closer
07 Glad to Be Alive
10 Made in Heaven

08 All I Wanna Do is Make You Mine (with Jason Donovan)
08 Just Wanna Love You
07 We Know the Meaning of Love

09 I Am the One for You

06 Closer
06 Do You Dare?
02 Say the Word - I'll Be There

11 Where in the World

Posted by: Liam.k. 24th April 2020, 08:54 PM

I thought you might have given some brutal scores here! Had a feeling you'd like 'Closer', I was quite surprised when I heard it because it's not typical SAW at all!

'I Guess I Like It Like That' is such a riot! I don't think there's anything original in the song!

Posted by: pippa 25th April 2020, 06:48 PM

06 I Miss You
07 I'll Still Be Loving You
06 Look My Way
08 Love at First Sight [1988]

10 Nothing to Lose
06 Tell Tale Signs
08 My Secret Heart
10 I'm Over Dreaming (Over You)
07 Heaven and Earth
11 Enjoy Yourself

08 Secrets
10 Always Find the Time
06 The World Still Turns
07 One Boy Girl
10 Things Can Only Get Better
06 Count the Days
07 Rhythm of Love

06 Too Much of a Good Thing
07 Let's Get To It
06 Right Here, Right Now [1991]
05 Live and Learn
06 No World Without You
10 I Guess I Like It Like That

05 Getting Closer
06 Glad to Be Alive
09 Made in Heaven

09 All I Wanna Do is Make You Mine (with Jason Donovan)
05 Just Wanna Love You
06 We Know the Meaning of Love
08 I Am the One for You

04 Closer
05 Do You Dare?
07 Say the Word - I'll Be There

09 Where in the World

Posted by: Qween 29th April 2020, 08:09 PM

07 I Miss You
06 I'll Still Be Loving You
07 Look My Way
06 Love at First Sight [1988]

08 Nothing to Lose
06 Tell Tale Signs
06 My Secret Heart
07 I'm Over Dreaming (Over You)
07 Heaven and Earth
07 Enjoy Yourself

08 Secrets
09 Always Find the Time
07 The World Still Turns
06 One Boy Girl
10 Things Can Only Get Better
06 Count the Days
07 Rhythm of Love

07 Too Much of a Good Thing
08 Let's Get To It
07 Right Here, Right Now [1991]
06 Live and Learn
06 No World Without You
08 I Guess I Like It Like That

07 Getting Closer
05 Glad to Be Alive
08 Made in Heaven

04 All I Wanna Do is Make You Mine (with Jason Donovan)
05 Just Wanna Love You
05 We Know the Meaning of Love

07 I Am the One for You

07 Closer
06 Do You Dare?
07 Say the Word - I'll Be There

08 Where in the World

Posted by: Liam.k. 3rd May 2020, 03:46 PM

Bump.

Posted by: Hauspital* 18th May 2020, 09:28 PM

07 I Miss You
09 I'll Still Be Loving You
06 Look My Way
06 Love at First Sight [1988]

06 Nothing to Lose
04 Tell Tale Signs
03 My Secret Heart
08 I'm Over Dreaming (Over You)
04 Heaven and Earth
05 Enjoy Yourself

08 Secrets
06 Always Find the Time
05 The World Still Turns
06 One Boy Girl
07 Things Can Only Get Better
04 Count the Days
05 Rhythm of Love

07 Too Much of a Good Thing
06 Let's Get To It
06 Right Here, Right Now [1991]
05 Live and Learn
04 No World Without You
03 I Guess I Like It Like That

04 Getting Closer
03 Glad to Be Alive
07 Made in Heaven

03 All I Wanna Do is Make You Mine (with Jason Donovan)
05 Just Wanna Love You
04 We Know the Meaning of Love

05 I Am the One for You

03 Closer
05 Do You Dare?
05 Say the Word - I'll Be There

07 Where in the World

Posted by: M4NGO 25th June 2020, 05:08 PM

Just checking this is still open?

Posted by: Liam.k. 25th June 2020, 05:10 PM

I'm going to be sending PM's round to those who have voted in some sections but not others as I'm wanting to start soon, so there is still time to vote if you want to!

Posted by: Nina West 25th June 2020, 06:00 PM

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 25th June 2020, 09:23 PM

She left at the right time and based on those songs it was just in time as SAW were fading away at that time as was Kylie. Likely another SAW album would have been even less successful than let's get to it.

Posted by: pippa 26th June 2020, 11:57 PM

Kylie made a very important decision when leaving S.A.W. and it was a career saving decision.
The journey they had together ended naturally.