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Posted by: thisispop Aug 13 2006, 08:46 PM

Victoria Beckham To Re-Launch Pop Career
After she is sampled for Ibiza anthem...


By: Lowri Williams on entertainmentwise.com 8/13/2006


Victoria Beckham is said to have been delighted to discover that a sample of her track ‘Let Your Head Go’ is being used on a new Ibiza anthem.

The sample from her song is being used by DJ’s Kutting Edge on their popular track ‘Across The Universe’.

Rumour has it that if the ‘Across The Universe’ goes down well Victoria may return to the studio to lay down some more groundbreaking stuff.

A friend of the former Spice Girl said: “Victoria had no idea her vocals were being sampled but she’s over the moon that everyone loves it.

She’s been concentrating on her kids and fashion design business lately after vowing enough was enough with pop.

“Let your head go did do well when it was released three years ago – in fact, it got to number 3 so it’s great that it looks set to repeat the success.

“She’s glad she’s not directly behind the release because she couldn’t face the embarrassment if it flops commercially.

“But if it does do well it will boost her confidence and she’s said she will give a comeback more thought. Singing and dancing was always her first love.â€

Oh dear could Posh Spice be coming back…already????

Posted by: Matty. Aug 13 2006, 08:53 PM

she makes good pop music imo, and she's not a failure. All her songs have gone top 10 (mabye 1 didnt?) who cares if she hasnt had a #1 single? nobody except people like Victoria Newton. This Groove was a great pop song, and let your head go was an enjoyable pop track also smile.gif

I hope she does decide to make more tracks

Posted by: Scotty. Aug 13 2006, 08:57 PM

Oh dear lord no. sleep.gif I though she eventually gave up on pop music unsure.gif

Posted by: Rob Aug 13 2006, 09:04 PM

It's sad, but no matter what the woman releases, she'll be panned sleep.gif I'm really eager to hear this tune, trying to track it down!

Posted by: Feel_the_Fever Aug 13 2006, 09:13 PM

i never thought she would go down that raod again she will never makes it as a solo artist

Posted by: Grandwicky Aug 13 2006, 11:35 PM

I'd personally be interested to see this.. imagine if she got to #1 that'd mean every spice girl would have had a solo #1 ohmy.gif

But what matters more is that she can prove that she's good enough and bring out that'd get her noticed which would be hard to do but I was a fan of her previous stuff and her album is the only solo spice album I own.

Posted by: Jo Frost Aug 14 2006, 12:06 AM

She's universally rubbished as a joke, she's got her work cut out if she does make a comeback. It'll be like Lisa Scott-Lee...

Posted by: Kelly Aug 14 2006, 12:10 AM

I always liked Victoria, and her music, but then again I am hope to some of the biggest flops music has ever seen so i'll hush. sad.gif

Posted by: jack89 Aug 14 2006, 12:23 AM

I do like victoria and i hope she does make a music comeback none of her singles have seriously flopped and she is one of/ the biggest female in the uk with even an ok song she would go top 20.

Posted by: Grandwicky Aug 14 2006, 12:25 AM

hmmm I've only just realised that none of her singles have charted below #6 yet she's labelled as a 'flop' by people laugh.gif then again her album entered at #10 and plummeted which was a shame as it was actually quite good ohmy.gif

Posted by: Kelly Aug 14 2006, 12:25 AM

None of her singles have missed the Top10, but they all drop really quickly and sell next to nothing, her last record company went bankrupt promoting her. ohmy.gif

Posted by: Grandwicky Aug 14 2006, 12:28 AM

And the one before that went bankrupt spending so much on Romeo's album expecting it sell 500,000 laugh.gif

Posted by: Paramore Aug 14 2006, 12:35 AM

Her solo stuff wasn't the worst by a spice girl. Mel B's maes me feel sick sick.gif I dunno I see the 'Wannabe' video where she just walks like a snob on the catwalk and doesn't even sing her own part just the chorus laugh.gif Some of her stuff was OK I don't know why she fails tbh wacko.gif

Posted by: Gary. Aug 14 2006, 01:28 AM

I liked Victoria, espically Let Your head Go, so I hope this track does well. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kelly Aug 14 2006, 02:54 AM

QUOTE(Grandwicky @ Aug 14 2006, 01:34 AM) *

And the one before that went bankrupt spending so much on Romeo's album expecting it sell 500,000 laugh.gif

Her record deal before Telstar was Virgin and they're still going, non? unsure.gif

Posted by: Jack89 Jul 17 2007, 11:43 PM

Noooo, I missed her TV show sad.gif Was it any good? Does anyone know any times/channels that it is repeaded on? sad.gif

Posted by: Feel_the_Fever Jul 17 2007, 11:59 PM

im just after readung on ceefax its been slated by american press

Posted by: geriboy Jul 18 2007, 09:51 AM

LOVED it! She came across really well I thought, it was 'major' laugh.gif

Sure it'll be on youtube or denden soon x

Posted by: paul_pdc Jul 18 2007, 10:56 AM

it is repeated tonight on ITV1 at 11pm i think

Posted by: Matt Aloud Jul 18 2007, 10:59 AM

QUOTE(paul_pdc @ Jul 18 2007, 11:56 AM) *
it is repeated tonight on ITV1 at 11pm i think


yep thumbup.gif

a lot of it seemed staged though unsure.gif

Posted by: coolnav Jul 18 2007, 12:03 PM

It said on the information bit that 'some scenes have been created for dramatic effect'.

Posted by: Lukuzz Jul 18 2007, 01:10 PM

I loved it, she looked amazing and seemed like a really nice person, i dont know why she gets slated so much

Posted by: Jack89 Jul 18 2007, 02:20 PM

ooo i'll watch it tonight then if it is on... alot of english people seemed to have liked it/ she came across well? ... just the american press trying to give a new celeb (to them) a bad name... when i bed alot of people watched it and loved it.. but then again, they won't get the british sense of humour, nor will they understand the whole wag thing.

Posted by: Matt Aloud Jul 18 2007, 02:28 PM

QUOTE(coolnav @ Jul 18 2007, 01:03 PM) *
It said on the information bit that 'some scenes have been created for dramatic effect'.


typical Americanised rubbish then laugh.gif

Nothing like a stiff upper lipped British fly on the wall documentary laugh.gif

Posted by: coolnav Jul 18 2007, 03:13 PM

I just thought it was weird that they would say that! Im sure many UK docu's create more drama than what really happens.

Posted by: Feel_the_Fever Jul 18 2007, 04:22 PM

ya i would have thought the same

Posted by: Andrewy Jul 18 2007, 10:59 PM

I thought it was hilarious ... she's so funny when she just takes the p*** - and her reaction to the blow up doll when she was like "it looked quite alarmed!!!" was some of the best TV i've seen for months!

Posted by: Jack89 Jul 19 2007, 02:56 AM

The show was AMAZING! and a david beckham one next week, will it be shown in america too AND the british press that is reporting that america didn't like it.. well on one thread about it on perez hilton.com almost ALL of them (shock for that site) were positive saying they now love her, so ha!

http://perezhilton.com/?p=1630#respond < proof tongue.gif

Posted by: Lukuzz Jul 19 2007, 11:01 AM

lol it was great when she went to see him

Posted by: Matt Aloud Jul 19 2007, 11:48 AM

the US press hate the thought of a Brit being more popular than all of their celebrities alexis.gif

Posted by: Cassidy Jul 19 2007, 12:01 PM

Don't get me wrong I think Victoria is AMAZE [away from the microphone ph34r.gif ] but this program was truly a bit CRINGE. I dunno why, she just seemed a bit uncomfortable with the whole American culture.

The part where they handed her the ball to pitch and she goes 'oh sh*t' was funny though laugh.gif

Posted by: Kelly Jul 19 2007, 01:31 PM

The CASS a secret VB fan? Well I never. ohmy.gif

Posted by: Jack89 Jul 19 2007, 02:32 PM

I know ohmy.gif I never thought that you would like VB ohmy.gif I found the blow up doll and the dolphin woman well funny laugh.gif and when her assiastant thought she called her, her fat friend laugh.gif oo and the earthquake biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cassidy Jul 19 2007, 05:01 PM

Victoria is a fabulous example of HOW TO BE A CELEB.

And yeah the blow-up doll thing was funny, although it shows how UTTERLY THICK some paps are. I mean they were still taking pictures even when the man had it in his arms and was OPENLY GRINNING at the camera.

Posted by: Feel_the_Fever Jul 19 2007, 06:47 PM

she knows how to grab the headlines also

Posted by: Jack89 Jul 19 2007, 10:07 PM

QUOTE(Cassidy @ Jul 19 2007, 06:01 PM) *
Victoria is a fabulous example of HOW TO BE A CELEB.

And yeah the blow-up doll thing was funny, although it shows how UTTERLY THICK some paps are. I mean they were still taking pictures even when the man had it in his arms and was OPENLY GRINNING at the camera.

LMAO!! The blow up doll was fat aswel, they must have known it wasn't her laugh.gif

Posted by: Gary Aug 1 2007, 08:03 PM

I finally got round to watching this last night.. It was funny laugh.gif

The P.A thing was fake, right? I'm not sure- Victoria had me cracking up when she was making the Apple Pie and she licked the spoon then put it back in.

I think she came across really well- I loved when she had to throw the ball- She was nervous as anything.

Posted by: Jark Aug 1 2007, 09:12 PM

What I loved even more about this show than the fact that Victoria is a wonderfully sexy celeb who the world worships is that the US press didn't understand it whatsoever laugh.gif the day after it was shown they slated it and called Victoria a snobby woman etc. Thickness much!

Posted by: Shaun Aug 4 2007, 11:20 AM

OMG i loved it! shes so coool!

Posted by: sanjagl Aug 25 2007, 03:32 AM

Victoria Beckham and Katie Holmes at Chanel show video

World Fashion Tv = 8MB = 50sec = High Quality

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Posted by: sanjagl Aug 25 2007, 03:33 AM

Victoria Beckham interview from Roberto Cavalli show

Tv Moda


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Victoria Beckham as a model at Roberto Cavalli show video


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Posted by: sanjagl Sep 9 2007, 08:47 AM

Victoria Beckham and Petra Nemcova at Elthon John party video

World Fashion Tv = 7 MB = 42 Sec

Also in video James Blunt

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Posted by: Lukuzz Sep 9 2007, 12:02 PM

back to brown hair ey.
i liked the blonde. she still looks amazing though

Posted by: Shaun Nov 27 2007, 04:48 AM

from news.com.au



A POSH Spice impersonator has been flown into town to cash in on the buzz over David Beckham's visit to Sydney without his famous wife.

Camilla Shadbolt punked punters and the paparazzi waiting for the soccer star and his LA Galaxy teammates to arrive early yesterday.

As Becks jetted in on a private plane, the 26-year-old copycat, who has been playing Posh professionally for nine years, came on a commercial flight from London on a stunt mission for a new online gossip site.
In pictures: Posh & Becks
Photo gallery: Beckham hairstyles
Readers: Send us your Beckham snaps

The lookalike drew stares when she strutted like the Spice Girls star along Woolloomooloo's Finger Wharf, lunching far from anonymously at Salon Blanc.

Although being Victoria Beckham doesn't pay as well as the real thing, Shadbolt told Confidential she recently fooled media in Los Angeles, who followed her wherever she went.

"Literally everyone out there thought I was her. I was getting mobbed wherever I went,'' the former arts student said.

"It was really amazing to see how much attention they actually get. It's quite scary at times, because you've got loads of cameras in your face.''

Keeping up appearances has cost Shadbolt almost $100,000 over the years in twice-weekly tanning treatments, acrylic nails and faux fashions.

The expenses, however, have been more than matched by the perks - which include world travel, designer clothes and all the trappings the celebrity couple enjoy.

Meeting the man she pretends to be married to hasn't yet been part of the package - but Shadbolt, like most of Sydney, hopes she `"might cross paths'' with Becks this visit.

It may not be a friendly meeting, however. The Beckhams sued Shadbolt earlier this year, saying their reputation has been damaged by the "blagging" spree she and David Beckham lookalike Andy Harmer went on in LA.

Posted by: Just Adam Jun 17 2008, 08:04 PM



OMG I thought I heard it somewhere else. This song mainly around chorus sounds alot like "Miles Away" from Madonna ohmy.gif
Have A Listen! What do u think?

Posted by: Lukuzz Jun 18 2008, 10:41 AM

I haven't heard it, can't listen whilst I'm at work sad.gif

Posted by: On Your Shore Jun 19 2008, 03:04 AM

I think it's a good song, but I don't think it sounds like that Madonna one. I can't compare it to any other song I've heard, actually. ohmy.gif

Posted by: sanjagl Nov 19 2008, 09:37 PM

Victoria Beckham E Fashion interview at Oscar De La Renta show video

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Posted by: sanjagl Nov 19 2008, 09:37 PM

Victoria Beckham promotes her denim in Toronto E Fashion video

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Posted by: sanjagl Nov 19 2008, 09:37 PM

Victoria Beckham promoting her book in Canada E Fashion video

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Posted by: sanjagl Jan 11 2009, 03:28 PM

Victoria Beckham Fashion Debut Access Hollywood video

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Posted by: sanjagl Jan 11 2009, 03:29 PM

Victoria Beckham Access Extended interview Access Hollywood video



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Posted by: sanjagl Jan 12 2009, 06:48 PM

Victoria and David Beckham Launch Their Signature Fragrance Collection Access Hollywood video






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Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 7 2017, 02:41 AM

A thread to post random news & chat about Victoria!

Posted by: THEO. Sep 24 2017, 09:47 PM

I know this is from March but this is truly iconic:



I can't believe he got her to do a brief section of Carpool Karaoke! cry.gif heart.gif

Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 24 2017, 11:05 PM

^ My favourite thing she's done in years tbh! laugh.gif

Posted by: Jay ☆ Feb 25 2018, 02:31 AM

victoriabeckhamThank you for all the lovely messages,a small stress fracture, just needs some rest! #itsnotideal


https://www.instagram.com/p/BfjNBR1lf5m/?hl=en&taken-by=victoriabeckham

Posted by: Theo. May 24 2018, 10:32 AM

Victoria has designed these Spice Girls T-shirts for Red Nose Day in the US:



They're available for worldwide delivery but they're so expensive! https://www.omaze.com/made/victoria-beckham-spice-girls-tee?ref=spice.

Posted by: Babyboy Jun 1 2018, 08:42 PM

Out of your mind is on spotify and Itunes!

Posted by: Jay ☆ Jun 5 2018, 12:23 AM

About time! wub.gif

Posted by: ebae Jun 5 2018, 12:58 AM

QUOTE(THEO. @ Sep 24 2017, 10:47 PM) *
I know this is from March but this is truly iconic:



I can't believe he got her to do a brief section of Carpool Karaoke! cry.gif heart.gif


Omg, that is iconic! I love it biggrin.gif

Posted by: Spice Girls Net Sep 3 2018, 04:34 PM

Victoria Beckham: A Decade of Elegance | British Vogue dance.gif




Posted by: Michael Andrew Sep 3 2018, 08:30 PM

That is hilarious. I love how well she sends herself up.

And she still looks phenomenal dressed up as Posh spice.

I'm surprised and delighted that she's kept so many of those amazing costumes.

Posted by: Blond 2.0 Sep 4 2018, 02:11 PM

This is amazing I didn't know she likes Let your head go that much biggrin.gif she still has the chair LOL

Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 4 2018, 11:09 PM

wub.gif So fun to see her in old outfits & making a few funny Spice references. laugh.gif She doesn't often show off her more personable/amusing side to herself, so it was great to see.

The only thing I was a bit "hmm" about is her continuing with the "my mic was always off" narrative (a stance she originally raised in an interview a couple of years ago). It made for an easy joke that landed well, but for fans of her former music career it's just a bit of a shame to hear when we know it isn't the truth and she's deliberately putting herself down. I mean, I can see it from the perspective that music hasn't been her career for over a decade, so it most likely no longer matters to her that the public believe she didn't sing and wasn't talented in music, so she's decided to embrace the misconception and have power over it by creating that narrative.


By the way, here's the Vogue cover of Victoria & her children:



Seems like an interesting choice to not have David on this cover. Instead, he only features on the Subscribers edition cover:



A couple more pictures here: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/victoria-beckham-vogue-cover-divorce-david-harper-romeo-cruz-brooklyn-a8522551.html

Posted by: Michael Andrew Sep 5 2018, 08:58 AM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Sep 5 2018, 12:09 AM) *
The only thing I was a bit "hmm" about is her continuing with the "my mic was always off" narrative (a stance she originally raised in an interview a couple of years ago). It made for an easy joke that landed well, but for fans of her former music career it's just a bit of a shame to hear when we know it isn't the truth and she's deliberately putting herself down. I mean, I can see it from the perspective that music hasn't been her career for over a decade, so it most likely no longer matters to her that the public believe she didn't sing and wasn't talented in music, so she's decided to embrace the misconception and have power over it by creating that narrative.
By the way, here's the Vogue cover of Victoria & her children:


Totally get where you're coming from. I also very much admire her talent as a performer.

I think it's funny because it's not true. It's a common misconception that she was the cardboard cut out of the band. But you only have to watch a live show to know that's not the case.

She often plays up to false media claims, perhaps because it pokes fun at lazy journalism.

Either way, she's a legend. She's got nothing to prove.

Posted by: Maz! Sep 5 2018, 05:40 PM

Are there any pics of her dressed in Spice Girls costumes in the magazine or was it for the video only?

Posted by: ThePensmith Sep 13 2018, 04:59 AM

Just heard on Radio 2 that Victoria is guest on a special edition of Claudia Winkleman's show this coming Sunday at 7pm. Sounds like a good interview from the preview they aired!

Posted by: Jay ☆ Sep 18 2018, 02:42 AM

https://twitter.com/SGForeverItaly/status/1041665429847072769

Victoria at the end of the Claudia Winkleman interview rotf.gif

"Have you ever sold 75 million records? No! Ok, enough said. x"

Sounded so weird to hear her say "new album" laugh.gif

Posted by: Lukuzz Sep 18 2018, 09:13 AM

Why would she even joke about such a thing 😩

Posted by: KWEEN_DEE Sep 18 2018, 10:57 AM

Its an odd one as she makes a lot of jokes about music. I wonder if she actually wants to do new music but feels like the medias thoughts on her singing puts her off.

Posted by: ThePensmith Sep 20 2018, 07:32 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Sep 18 2018, 03:42 AM) *
https://twitter.com/SGForeverItaly/status/1041665429847072769

Victoria at the end of the Claudia Winkleman interview rotf.gif

"Have you ever sold 75 million records? No! Ok, enough said. x"

Sounded so weird to hear her say "new album" laugh.gif


It was brilliant, I've always loved how tongue in cheek/self deprecating she is!

Posted by: Spiceboy Sep 20 2018, 07:41 PM

She is hilarious she has such a tongue in cheek and also dry sense of humour!

Posted by: Jay ☆ Nov 20 2018, 12:24 AM



Victoria looks back on some of her old outfits, including the dress she wore to Brit Awards 1997.

Posted by: ThePensmith Nov 20 2018, 10:57 AM

What a sweet video! I love seeing old pictures of her from when her and David first started dating. It's crazy to think that Brooklyn is 20 years old in February! I remember when they announced he'd been born on Radio 1, that's how old I am!

Posted by: sammy01 Nov 20 2018, 12:52 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Nov 20 2018, 12:24 AM) *


Victoria looks back on some of her old outfits, including the dress she wore to Brit Awards 1997.


I had to stop watching that her top lip was distracting Me, what on earth is wrong with it?

Posted by: Tombo Jan 28 2019, 10:00 AM

I really like this interview.

Some of her new Reebok line looks really cool too. I would wear it.


Posted by: Blond 2.0 Jan 29 2019, 08:54 PM

I honestly loved some of her solo stuff too bad open your eyes was scraped


Posted by: Jay ☆ Mar 10 2019, 06:54 PM

Victoria & David are said to be worth $1 billion combined now, according to The Sun!

Posted by: Voodoo Dec 13 2019, 10:58 AM


Posted by: Jay ☆ Apr 17 2020, 10:16 PM

Happy birthday to Victoria, she's 46 today!

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Posted by: Spice Girls Net Apr 17 2020, 10:53 PM

I made this today

Happy Birthday, Victoria 🥳🎈

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Posted by: Jay ☆ Apr 17 2020, 11:49 PM

Love that! wub.gif

Posted by: Spice Girls Net Apr 17 2020, 11:51 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Apr 18 2020, 12:49 AM) *
Love that! wub.gif


Thank you 🤗

Posted by: Spiceboy Apr 18 2020, 03:17 PM

Love love love that Victoria montage 😍😍😍

Posted by: Jay ☆ Apr 23 2020, 03:06 AM

Some negative press for Victoria this week...

"Victoria Beckham has relied on taxpayers to pay 30 of her employees via the Government furlough scheme which pays 80% of salaries up to £2,500-a-month.

She faced criticism from all corners for not using her own fortune to pay her workers, including from the likes of Ricky Gervais and Piers Morgan"

"According to sources, Posh has been left reeling by the backlash she received, with one telling the Sun: "Victoria's telling friends that despite her birthday, it's been the 'worst week'.

"She doesn't think it's fair she's getting slammed for something a lot of companies and businesses are doing. She thinks it's unfair and had no idea the backlash would be this bad," the unnamed insider added."

Posted by: Mr.X Apr 23 2020, 08:34 AM

hhhmmm so technically, yes she should't have to rely on this as there are people in much worse situations not able to access any money. I am appauled that people like her, Richard Brandson and that Mike whatever from SportsDirect are behaving during this time.

However, the difference with her business, as much as we know, is that her business has always paid their taxes in the UK - which cannot be said for Virgin, SportsDirect and many others.

On a personal level, I am a 'tax the rich' kind of guy and honestly throughout her career she *did* engage in some shoddy business stuff just like the rest of the Spice Girls (remember how they tried to not pay taxes in 1997/1998, for example). Plus, she is worth upwords of £300million - she could very easily pay her staff herself..

I guess in times of international crisis when it is predicted that the poorest in socity will suffer great hunger in the upcoming economic recession (which is predicted to be higher than in the last 100 years), this really is a bad move for her...

She can afford to keep her business afloat. Millions of others cannot and those should have priority!

Posted by: Scene Apr 23 2020, 08:47 AM

WHO knew Posh was so funny?? I just stumbled across this video by accident!



She's gone up in my Spice Girl rankings after this tbh. Underappreciated. heart.gif

Posted by: Spiceboy Apr 23 2020, 09:25 AM

Re the Tax issues, I'm kinda appalled she is accessing the help as she has more than enough to pay her relatively small staffing and keep her business afloat. However she does pay tons of tax into the system, so I think she is entitled to take some relief back. It's not the road I would have gone down in her position however I'm not going to hold it against her as she does support the economy. Richard Branson on the other hand does my nut in, he shouldn't get a penny, he has billions and he doesn't pay a penny in tax, so he can fork it out of his own money.

Posted by: Mr.X Apr 23 2020, 02:49 PM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Apr 23 2020, 09:25 AM) *
Re the Tax issues, I'm kinda appalled she is accessing the help as she has more than enough to pay her relatively small staffing and keep her business afloat. However she does pay tons of tax into the system, so I think she is entitled to take some relief back. It's not the road I would have gone down in her position however I'm not going to hold it against her as she does support the economy. Richard Branson on the other hand does my nut in, he shouldn't get a penny, he has billions and he doesn't pay a penny in tax, so he can fork it out of his own money.


Agree. It's a tricky time and she should have been more tactical about it as she can afford to. Also, she does fashion and a lot of it is sold online - so it's not like her business sales would have suffered hugely right now...

Like you said, she has a better standing than Brandson, because as far as we know she has consistently paid her taxes since launching this initiative. BUT she is very well known to have been trying to avoid them in the past, and people wont forget that.

I kind of wish she would at least appologise or do something about this like create opportunities for other people or something, rather than simply complain. It just makes the situation worse...

Posted by: Spiceboy Apr 23 2020, 03:10 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Apr 23 2020, 03:49 PM) *
Agree. It's a tricky time and she should have been more tactical about it as she can afford to. Also, she does fashion and a lot of it is sold online - so it's not like her business sales would have suffered hugely right now...

Like you said, she has a better standing than Brandson, because as far as we know she has consistently paid her taxes since launching this initiative. BUT she is very well known to have been trying to avoid them in the past, and people wont forget that.

I kind of wish she would at least appologise or do something about this like create opportunities for other people or something, rather than simply complain. It just makes the situation worse...



We need a like button on Buzzjack!! cheer.gif

Posted by: Voodoo Apr 23 2020, 04:35 PM

If what she is doing is legal then you shouldn't be mad at her. It's her prerogative.

Posted by: Mr.X Apr 23 2020, 09:20 PM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Apr 23 2020, 04:35 PM) *
If what she is doing is legal then you shouldn't be mad at her. It's her prerogative.


Not everything that is legal is right. Poverty is legal and it still happens, that doesnt mean it is right. You have a moral compass and you're not just an individual. You have a responsibility in society.

Again, what she is doing isnt illegal but it definitely doesnt sit well when there are literally people starving because of this and she is sitting on her millions whilst getting tax payers to pay for it all. The ones with the most money need to back off. It's literally a matter of life or death for hundreds of thousands of people in the UK right now..

Posted by: Spiceboy Apr 23 2020, 09:32 PM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Apr 23 2020, 05:35 PM) *
If what she is doing is legal then you shouldn't be mad at her. It's her prerogative.



While it isn't illegal the advice given out was that this was for businesses who needed the help, not for multi-millionaires who could fund their business...

Posted by: Mr.X Apr 23 2020, 11:17 PM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Apr 23 2020, 09:32 PM) *
While it isn't illegal the advice given out was that this was for businesses who needed the help, not for multi-millionaires who could fund their business...



Posted by: sammy01 Apr 23 2020, 11:27 PM

The scheme I'm sure would be means tested (only businesses that truly need it would get tax payers money to support their staff) but small businesses just don't have time to go through that red tape as they will likely go bust before a decision is made to award them it.

Basically the government are asking businesses to claim benefits but like the benefits system it should only go to those who truly need it.

The big problem is this benefit will leave the country in massive debt for probably a whole generation and sadly as with most Tory governments they will make sure it wont be the rich who suffer the consequences of that.

Posted by: tommie Apr 24 2020, 07:34 AM

At least Victoria will always have that she made the Karen haircut mainstream.

Posted by: Voodoo Apr 24 2020, 07:57 AM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Apr 24 2020, 12:32 AM) *
While it isn't illegal the advice given out was that this was for businesses who needed the help, not for multi-millionaires who could fund their business...

There have been several reports over the years that her business is struggling & losing money, so you can't say she doesn't need help.

Read here: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50571458

Posted by: Mr.X Apr 24 2020, 08:23 AM

QUOTE(Voodoo @ Apr 24 2020, 07:57 AM) *
There have been several reports over the years that her business is struggling & losing money, so you can't say she doesn't need help.

Read here: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50571458


No-one is saying that her business isn't doing well. We are saying that *she* and her creditors have enough cash to cover for staff wages themselves for a bit. The business has *apparently* been loosing money for a long time - they always covered the losses before, why not now?

But also, you do realise that this doesnt mean that the business cant cover its own costs right? Accountants always - ALWAYS - make it look like businesses of her size are loosing money so dont pay as much tax as they should be doing.

Posted by: Slick Apr 24 2020, 08:37 AM

I really think people need to wind their neck in about the furloughing scheme (in general, not necessarily on Buzzjack). The scheme is there is to help businesses during this time - FACT: a lot of businesses have multi-millionaire owners, however only a select few high-profile business people are getting criticised for accessing the scheme (e.g. Wetherspoons, Victoria Beckham.) If the government didn't want businesses with rich owners to access the scheme, they would have put a cap on it. Look around you at how many stores and businesses on the high street are closed - do you really think they're all little family run businesses??

I think it is very unfair at this time to criticise and target business owners for accessing a scheme that has been made available to them. I thought we were all preaching "be kind" a couple of months ago?

Posted by: Mr.X Apr 24 2020, 09:32 AM

QUOTE(Slick @ Apr 24 2020, 08:37 AM) *
I really think people need to wind their neck in about the furloughing scheme (in general, not necessarily on Buzzjack). The scheme is there is to help businesses during this time - FACT: a lot of businesses have multi-millionaire owners, however only a select few high-profile business people are getting criticised for accessing the scheme (e.g. Wetherspoons, Victoria Beckham.) If the government didn't want businesses with rich owners to access the scheme, they would have put a cap on it. Look around you at how many stores and businesses on the high street are closed - do you really think they're all little family run businesses??

I think it is very unfair at this time to criticise and target business owners for accessing a scheme that has been made available to them. I thought we were all preaching "be kind" a couple of months ago?


No darling, rich people were saying 'be kind' to the rest of us.

Again, no1 is complaining about businesses accessing the scheme. They should as that is there for. What people are rightly saying is that those businesses that can stay afloat should take the brunt first.

Victoria is in a difficult position: she is well known to try avoid paying her taxes back in the day, is well known for being a multi-millionair with millions in investment from very rich people. She is no little business run by a local family in Coventry. She runs a multi-million business and is a multi-millionaire worth around £300million. She can afford to pay her staff wages for a few months.

Of course she will get press about it - she is a public persona, a celebrity. Wetherspoons is also getting a lot of shit thrown at them because of the way they've handled this - and rightly so!

I am not so sure what is so hard to understand here.

Posted by: Spiceboy Apr 24 2020, 09:52 AM

One thing I will say in her defence is she is topping up the staff wages with the extra 20% which lots of businesses are not doing so good on her for that. William Hill where I used to work have their staff on 80% and are not paying the extra 20% which was advised by the government... neither are Wetherspoons. Shame on them!

Posted by: Mr.X Apr 24 2020, 10:49 AM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Apr 24 2020, 09:52 AM) *
One thing I will say in her defence is she is topping up the staff wages with the extra 20% which lots of businesses are not doing so good on her for that. William Hill where I used to work have their staff on 80% and are not paying the extra 20% which was advised by the government... neither are Wetherspoons. Shame on them!


Absolutely! Wetherspoons, SportsDirect and Virgin should all go into liquidation tbh! Shameless bast*rds, all of them!

Posted by: Spiceboy Apr 24 2020, 11:23 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Apr 24 2020, 11:49 AM) *
Absolutely! Wetherspoons, SportsDirect and Virgin should all go into liquidation tbh! Shameless bast*rds, all of them!



I hate the fact that I bloody love Virgin Atlantic (it's such a fab airline to travel on) and Virgin Florida holidays so much... I always feel a mixture of excitement and like a total shit whenever use them laugh.gif (I'm a hypocrite!)

Posted by: JaneJ Apr 25 2020, 11:06 AM

Isn't it a common knowledge that money and fame always come first for the Beckhams? A lot of wealthy people are like that actually. She can afford to but she didn't want to and her VB brand hasn't been profitable for years it's understandable for me why she did what she did. The business should be able to run itself to be considered successful and VB brand is not. It's just something normal in the real selfish business world that money is always the priority for them. But Victoria is right, why only her is being slammed for this?

Posted by: Mr.X Apr 25 2020, 11:14 AM

QUOTE(JaneJ @ Apr 25 2020, 11:06 AM) *
Isn't it a common knowledge that money and fame always come first for the Beckhams? A lot of wealthy people are like that actually. She can afford to but she didn't want to and her VB brand hasn't been profitable for years it's understandable for me why she did what she did. The business should be able to run itself to be considered successful and VB brand is not. It's just something normal in the real selfish business world that money is always the priority for them. But Victoria is right, why only her is being slammed for this?


She is not right, sorry. Plenty other celebrity business owners are being slammed/dragged for this. We are more aware of her criticism because we care more about her than say Richard Brandson!

Posted by: JaneJ Apr 25 2020, 11:50 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Apr 25 2020, 06:14 PM) *
She is not right, sorry. Plenty other celebrity business owners are being slammed/dragged for this. We are more aware of her criticism because we care more about her than say Richard Brandson!


lol true, it's fair then.

Posted by: Alberto! Jul 11 2020, 02:23 PM

So VB shared the news that she's going to be a mother-in-law, after announcing that Brooklyn is now engaged:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCgQlxdJj5D/

Posted by: Spiceboy Jul 11 2020, 03:49 PM

Congratulations to them both, hope they are very happy together heart.gif 7 months then getting engaged seems very quick to me but each to their own, don't think David and Victoria were together long before they got engaged were they?

Posted by: schizo_spice Jul 11 2020, 05:28 PM

Victoria will likely be the first Spice grandmother.

Posted by: Lukuzz Jul 11 2020, 06:04 PM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Jul 11 2020, 04:49 PM) *
Congratulations to them both, hope they are very happy together heart.gif 7 months then getting engaged seems very quick to me but each to their own, don't think David and Victoria were together long before they got engaged were they?


She met him in 97 and got engaged in 98, so yeah wasn't too long either

Posted by: Jay* Jul 11 2020, 09:01 PM

I'm definitely anticipating David and Victoria becoming grandparents before turning 50... what a thought drama.gif

Posted by: Slick Jul 11 2020, 09:03 PM

I can remember Brooklyn being BORN. He can't be engaged, that makes me OLD.

Posted by: Jay* Aug 16 2020, 10:39 AM

If any of you think that Out of Your Mind is better than Groovejet, support Victoria here: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=237496

Posted by: Maz! Aug 16 2020, 11:36 AM

Apparently some papers this weekend Brooklyn and his gf are marrying at St Paul’s cathedral blink.gif

Posted by: Jay* Aug 16 2020, 12:25 PM

Apparently that's able to happen because David and Victoria have OBEs. Seems overly extravagant to me!

Posted by: Spiceboy Aug 17 2020, 10:30 AM

I voted Groovejet 🤭

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Posted by: KM AIR Oct 3 2020, 05:10 AM

I'm kinda wondering, and not sure if it's true., but I do get the feeling VB is very distant with other spice girls...did the grew apart through the years?

Posted by: Jay* Oct 21 2020, 06:09 PM

As most of us probably already know, This Groove/Let Your Head Go has never been available to stream. Pop_Activism on Twitter is trying to make it happen. Let's try and show that there's interest! Retweet and like: https://twitter.com/Pop_Activism/status/1318912370610233345


Posted by: Babyboy Oct 21 2020, 06:33 PM

I don't think is easy. Telstar is no more.

Posted by: Jay* Oct 21 2020, 06:43 PM

Victoria has the rights to those songs, through Moody Productions! Ever since Telstar went under. She's unfortunately never bothered to do anything with them (i.e. release them digitally).

Posted by: dancinqueen Oct 22 2020, 07:04 AM

If this happens, at least in the US, media will cover the news and she probably will end up being the Spice with best Spotify numbers there 😂

Posted by: schizo_spice Oct 22 2020, 06:32 PM

I get the feeling Victoria wants to pretend her solo music career never happened so this doesn't surprise me.

Posted by: Spiceboy Oct 22 2020, 07:34 PM

QUOTE(schizo_spice @ Oct 22 2020, 07:32 PM) *
I get the feeling Victoria wants to pretend her solo music career never happened so this doesn't surprise me.



It would be so interesting to see where and what she would be had her solo career taken off. I reckon she would have still been releasing music were she successful with it (and constantly so) the fashion thing would be a side project ala JLo, she would probably have been much more willing to join a Spice Girls reunion.

Posted by: Sideout Oct 22 2020, 08:11 PM

I still believe if Victoria was featured on a Calvin Harris or a Zedd track, she would get a semi decent hit on curiosity alone. Especially if the track was a total bop.

Posted by: Pearll Oct 22 2020, 09:26 PM

QUOTE(Sideout @ Oct 22 2020, 08:11 PM) *
I still believe if Victoria was featured on a Calvin Harris or a Zedd track, she would get a semi decent hit on curiosity alone. Especially if the track was a total bop.


Imagine she would get a #1 with it! Ugh!!

Posted by: Spiceboy Oct 22 2020, 10:37 PM

I would LOVE Victoria to do that, and let's be honest she is the only one who would stand a chance of being featured on a massive DJ's track like Calvin or Mark Ronson etc. The thought of it going to #1 too making Victoria the only Spice Girl to have a #1 in 3 different decades haha (although you could argue Geri and Melanie C managed that with their features on those charity records).

Posted by: Jay* Oct 22 2020, 11:30 PM

There's a new programme on BBC iPlayer called The Noughties, with episode 1 focusing on 2000. Part of it focuses on a Victoria Beckham interview on Michael Parkinson, and her chart battle with Spiller/Sophie Ellis-Bextor. (Predictably they weren't very kind about Out of Your Mind)

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[...]there were a couple of points of genuine interest, both of which involved Victoria Beckham. There was a brief, fascinating (and possibly unfair, given how much times have changed) clip of Michael Parkinson interviewing her at the height of tabloid interest in her life and marriage to David. He asked her on television if it was true that her husband wore her knickers, and then, with bracing bluntness, if she was anorexic? Did she eat? Our modern-day interpreters seemed shocked by the intrusion, and from the perspective of 2020, it is a weird relic, and a sure measure of how much celebrity interviews and the culture of fame have changed. Let’s hope they have not seen him interviewing Helen Mirren in 1975.

Beckham also provided the other highlight, with an admirably long section dedicated to retelling the story of her great chart battle with Spiller and Sophie Ellis-Bextor’s Groovejet (If This Ain’t Love), or, as they put it, “the last of the UK’s big chart battles”. By far the most controversial thing Norcott comes out with is that Beckham’s solo-ish single Out of Your Mind is “so unbelievably awful”. In the words of Beckham herself, this tune’s gonna punish you.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/oct/21/the-noughties-review-victoria-beckham-rescues-thinly-stretched-nostalgia-fest
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000nphz/the-noughties-series-1-1-2000



Looking back, it is quite astonishing that she's directly asked whether she thinks she's anorexic and what she eats!

Posted by: tommie Oct 23 2020, 04:48 AM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Oct 22 2020, 07:34 PM) *
It would be so interesting to see where and what she would be had her solo career taken off. I reckon she would have still been releasing music were she successful with it (and constantly so) the fashion thing would be a side project ala JLo, she would probably have been much more willing to join a Spice Girls reunion.


Honestly, I can't see her solo career lasting for long even if "VB" had been a huge seller, because just like the other girls she would've had a record underperform eventually. I think she's pretty much like Geri in that aspect - she really only enjoyed releasing music when she was successful with it and if she wasn't, what's the point? I don't exactly see her going down the Mel C route, even if she had a couple of really successful records.

Posted by: FezVez Oct 23 2020, 05:46 AM

QUOTE(Jay* @ Oct 23 2020, 12:30 AM) *
There's a new programme on BBC iPlayer called The Noughties, with episode 1 focusing on 2000. Part of it focuses on a Victoria Beckham interview on Michael Parkinson, and her chart battle with Spiller/Sophie Ellis-Bextor. (Predictably they weren't very kind about Out of Your Mind)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000nphz/the-noughties-series-1-1-2000



Looking back, it is quite astonishing that she's directly asked whether she thinks she's anorexic and what she eats!


Yikes that interview really is excruciating!

Posted by: Jay❄ Apr 17 2021, 02:06 AM

It's Victoria's 47th birthday today, happy birthday to her!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Apr 17 2021, 01:48 PM

That interview highlights how thankfully times have fractionally changed as the handling of the anorexia questions were horrific and highlighted how clueless Parkinson was about the disease (,even though I liked him as an interviewer) but this interview came across like anorexia was a joking matter. Posh handled that interview very well.

Posted by: Jay❄ Apr 17 2021, 06:08 PM

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Happy Birthday my gorgeous friend and spicy sister @victoriabeckham. Love you to bits. ❤️❤️❤️

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Happy Birthday @victoriabeckham!!! Hope you’re having a wonderful day 🥳🥰🎂

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The happiest of birthdays my darling @victoriabeckham 🥂❤️. Sending kisses and love on your special day! xxx

Posted by: Jay❄ Apr 17 2021, 06:09 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Apr 17 2021, 02:48 PM) *
That interview highlights how thankfully times have fractionally changed as the handling of the anorexia questions were horrific and highlighted how clueless Parkinson was about the disease (,even though I liked him as an interviewer) but this interview came across like anorexia was a joking matter. Posh handled that interview very well.

Looking back it's certainly odd how flippantly anorexia was mentioned, and made into something of a joke... it shows how different attitudes were even just 20 years ago, with little to no regard for someone's mental health.

Posted by: Mr.X Apr 17 2021, 06:31 PM

The British press has always been trash, and Victoria got the full monty of it unfortunately.

The way she was treated was awful throughout 1999 - 2010 specially. She really turned it around but no-one should have had to go through what she did, bless her.

Posted by: dannjohn Apr 19 2021, 02:18 PM

she rarely does any videoed press nowadays and when she does... she references her singing... I think its something she wishes she was still doing but is quite scared because of the media.

Posted by: Jay❄ Apr 28 2021, 12:02 PM



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Posted by: spiceboy Apr 29 2021, 08:00 PM

WTAF?? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: dancinqueen Jun 23 2021, 09:35 AM

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She might be empowering women through fashion, but she never forgets her fans.

Here’s an old pictures of Vicky B with a fan during a meet and greet at Newcastle’s Primark.

She’s coming. #Posh2021

Posted by: -Jay- Jun 29 2021, 06:44 PM



A fun little interview, some Spicy answers heart.gif

Posted by: Mr.X Jun 29 2021, 07:04 PM

"ShE Is uSiin dE sPicE brANd 4 ha FAshione!?!?!?!?"

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Posted by: -Jay- Jul 8 2021, 08:18 PM

UK garage, diamantes and Dane Bowers: Why Posh Spice’s short-lived solo pop career deserves a second chance

Victoria Beckham was written off as a solo artist before she’d really begun but a mysterious lost album that exists only on YouTube hints at the one-woman supernova she could have become. Adam White wonders whether her brief Y2K releases have been unfairly dismissed


https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/victoria-beckham-spice-girls-solo-b1875677.html

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Haven't read this in full yet, but very nice for there to be an article that reappraises Victoria as a solo artist. She got such a hard time for even daring to release music, and then made fun of for missing #1 - in a way I don't think many other artists have experienced. The media wanted her to fail and it clearly led to her falling out of love with being in the music industry, even though she persisted for quite a while. Based on the material she worked on around 2003, her second album was shaping up to be great!

Posted by: Mr.X Jul 8 2021, 09:06 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Jul 8 2021, 09:18 PM) *
UK garage, diamantes and Dane Bowers: Why Posh Spice’s short-lived solo pop career deserves a second chance

Victoria Beckham was written off as a solo artist before she’d really begun but a mysterious lost album that exists only on YouTube hints at the one-woman supernova she could have become. Adam White wonders whether her brief Y2K releases have been unfairly dismissed


https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/victoria-beckham-spice-girls-solo-b1875677.html

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Haven't read this in full yet, but very nice for there to be an article that reappraises Victoria as a solo artist. She got such a hard time for even daring to release music, and then made fun of for missing #1 - in a way I don't think many other artists have experienced. The media wanted her to fail and it clearly led to her falling out of love with being in the music industry, even though she persisted for quite a while. Based on the material she worked on around 2003, her second album was shaping up to be great!


I read this earlier and have to agree with most of it. She was really slandered at large, which is a shame. Good for her to stick to it for a bit against all odds.

It was ridiculous the shit people were saying about her not making it to #1 with Out of Your Mind. Then her solo album launch was really great quality but people had pretty much decided they were not going to give her a chance at all.

I still think that her solo album had great music. Like That, Not That Kind of Girl, I Wish, No Trix, No Games, Girlfriend were all great, great songs. Would have loved it if she had done those as singles or at least a couple of performances.

Will always remember when I met her during her Telstar era wub.gif

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Posted by: schizo_spice Jul 8 2021, 09:17 PM

I think she had potential with her first album but for me launched with a really weak song. The album had much better tracks to launch with than Not Such An Innocent Girl. The Kylie battle really did her no favours either, then to follow up almost half a year later with A Mind of its Own (I do like it) as single 2 was just crazy tactics. The first era was so badly handled.

Then she went down the whole Hip hop/Damon Dash route which absolutely did not work for her at all and was always going to create negative reaction from the media.

Everything finally amounted to one double A side single with two very contrasting song choices that made her look even more unsure of what direction she was going in. It was all so messy.


Posted by: -Jay- Jul 8 2021, 09:55 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jul 8 2021, 10:06 PM) *
Will always remember when I met her during her Telstar era wub.gif

Ahhh I'm jealous! What a great photo, and cool for you to have met her during that era (funnily enough I seem to remember seeing this picture back in the days of DenDen cool2.gif )

I think Like That and I Wish in particular had great potential as singles, so it's a pity neither Virgin or Victoria seemed to recognise that (well to be fair they eventually did with I Wish, but for some reason decided to make a worse version of it lol. I don't regret that she ended up cancelling it.)

QUOTE(schizo_spice @ Jul 8 2021, 10:17 PM) *
I think she had potential with her first album but for me launched with a really weak song. The album had much better tracks to launch with than Not Such An Innocent Girl. The Kylie battle really did her no favours either, then to follow up almost half a year later with A Mind of its Own (I do like it) as single 2 was just crazy tactics. The first era was so badly handled.

Definitely agree that her first album era had mistakes and bad timing as a running theme, which was unfortunate. I don't mind Not Such an Innocent Girl but it wasn't a great choice of first single. Going up against Kylie certainly got a lot of press, but ultimately led to make the single look disastrous by not even running Kylie close.

Interesting point of view about the Double A Side single, I suppose that could have come across to some of the public that she lacked confidence with either direction. I wonder which song was ultimately the one that drove the most sales. Radio were marginally more supportive of This Groove, and an unofficial upload of the video has a few thousand more views than Let Your Head Go. Personally I preferred Let Your Head Go, but I think both were good songs. I get the impression that Victoria herself preferred This Groove and the material that was a part of the "Come Together" leaks.

Posted by: tommie Jul 9 2021, 06:19 AM

The biggest issue with Victoria's career was that a lot of money was invested into it, money that they wouldn't even have gotten back even if she had been hugely successful. I'm pretty sure she would've had to sell Northern Star numbers to get money back on VB and probably huge numbers for the Telstar album too considering the wealth of material she recorded.

Posted by: -Jay- Sep 17 2021, 06:43 PM


Posted by: spiceboy Sep 18 2021, 04:24 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Jul 8 2021, 10:06 PM) *
I read this earlier and have to agree with most of it. She was really slandered at large, which is a shame. Good for her to stick to it for a bit against all odds.

It was ridiculous the shit people were saying about her not making it to #1 with Out of Your Mind. Then her solo album launch was really great quality but people had pretty much decided they were not going to give her a chance at all.

I still think that her solo album had great music. Like That, Not That Kind of Girl, I Wish, No Trix, No Games, Girlfriend were all great, great songs. Would have loved it if she had done those as singles or at least a couple of performances.

Will always remember when I met her during her Telstar era wub.gif

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Love this photo! wub.gif

It's a shame she never got to release her second album, would have been interesting to see what she came up with and whether it had a bigger impact than the first one. Based on the success of LYHG / TG (relative to the time of release) I'd say she could have looked at Emma's Free Me type success with the right promotion etc. But then that would have been painted as a flop for her too.

Posted by: spiceboy Sep 18 2021, 04:27 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Sep 17 2021, 07:43 PM) *



This is actually kind of ok laugh.gif


Not sure what I think about the fact Victoria has recorded spoken vocals for the beginning of the track... she can't do a photoshoot with the girls because she doesn't want to be associated with music due to her Fashion label, yet she is more than happy to record vocals for a song for some random (to her) artist? unsure.gif

Posted by: -Jay- Sep 18 2021, 04:36 PM

No that's a sample from her 73 Questions with Vogue video from a few years ago!

Posted by: spiceboy Sep 18 2021, 04:38 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Sep 18 2021, 05:36 PM) *
No that's a sample from her 73 Questions with Vogue video from a few years ago!



Ah, that's not such an insult then laugh.gif

I'm hoping this hits #1 all over the world then we can say Victoria has a solo #1 too laugh.gif

Posted by: sammy01 Sep 18 2021, 04:47 PM

Isn't Iggy a horrible person? I'd rather not be associated with her if I was Victoria.

Posted by: dancinqueen Sep 18 2021, 04:57 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Sep 18 2021, 04:47 PM) *
Isn't Iggy a horrible person? I'd rather not be associated with her if I was Victoria.


She is. The Queen of cultural appropriation

Posted by: Blond 2.0 Sep 18 2021, 05:20 PM

Love it & Iggy is not horrible WTF

Posted by: spiceboy Sep 18 2021, 05:24 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Sep 18 2021, 05:47 PM) *
Isn't Iggy a horrible person? I'd rather not be associated with her if I was Victoria.



I have no idea who she is tbh? Did she do that song with Britney and stick up for her??

Posted by: sammy01 Sep 18 2021, 05:32 PM

QUOTE(Blond 2.0 @ Sep 18 2021, 06:20 PM) *
Love it & Iggy is not horrible WTF


You might wanna do some reading, she was a pretty awful person before getting media trained and PR working it's magic.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-33061794.amp

Posted by: Mr.X Sep 18 2021, 11:33 PM

Yeah Iggy is trash, unfortunately. She has a couple of bops though, and this one is one of them!

Posted by: dancinqueen Sep 19 2021, 09:39 AM

Btw, that “I have a responsibility towards the fashion community” is BS. It’s something Simon told her to say, that persona they created for her really irks me. I like her more now, she seems more natural and in peace with her fun side. Spice World The Movie was basically Victoria and her friends. The best jokes and moments are Posh Spice related.

Posted by: -Jay- Nov 21 2021, 12:32 PM

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(Just posting because she used Say You’ll Be There & included “Spice up your life” in the caption x)

Posted by: dancinqueen Nov 21 2021, 03:14 PM

Yawn

Posted by: michael319 Dec 17 2021, 04:54 PM

Anyone have an HQ cover for "Open Your Eyes Album"

Or the images that were used from those manmade album covers.

Posted by: michael319 Dec 27 2021, 05:27 AM

Why did I not know the version of “let your head go” on the “open your eyes album leaked” is different. Wth was it a demo or something? It’s different

Posted by: Blond 2.0 Dec 27 2021, 06:25 PM

QUOTE(michael319 @ Dec 27 2021, 05:27 AM) *
Why did I not know the version of “let your head go” on the “open your eyes album leaked” is different. Wth was it a demo or something? It’s different


The one on the album is Electronic it's very cool version and more dancey

Posted by: Joshnat192 Jan 9 2022, 11:21 PM

On 2021 her company lost around 7 million pounds and requerid investment of another parts, either on 2020 wasn’t profitable losing 16 million pounds. I know that COVID affected so much but numbers aren’t good, What do you think about it? It was profitable before COVID? Every time that she post something related to Spice Girls I’m wondering if she does it to get publicity for her brand, as she did with the pride T-shirt or Posh lipsticks. Back in the day when David was on football she was with high press all time but now that she is an established designer I don’t feel that she gets the same press, the big impacts of publicity came with things related to Spice Girls like the tour or the pic they took on Geri’s house. I’m wondering if the company doesn’t get profitable during this year either if she will be more involved in Spice things like doing a photoshop with the rest of the girls, the 25th anniversary of SpiceWolrd or even jump on stage at the tour at some point. I guess that Simon and she know that The brand Spice is the more effective tool to boost VB, will be interesting to see what she does.

Posted by: pippa Jan 9 2022, 11:37 PM

I don't see Victoria getting directly involved with The Spice Girls outside of being supportive of them verbally.

Posted by: -Jay- Jan 10 2022, 05:44 AM

QUOTE(Joshnat192 @ Jan 9 2022, 11:21 PM) *
On 2021 her company lost around 7 million pounds and requerid investment of another parts, either on 2020 wasn’t profitable losing 16 million pounds. I know that COVID affected so much but numbers aren’t good, What do you think about it? It was profitable before COVID? Every time that she post something related to Spice Girls I’m wondering if she does it to get publicity for her brand, as she did with the pride T-shirt or Posh lipsticks. Back in the day when David was on football she was with high press all time but now that she is an established designer I don’t feel that she gets the same press, the big impacts of publicity came with things related to Spice Girls like the tour or the pic they took on Geri’s house. I’m wondering if the company doesn’t get profitable during this year either if she will be more involved in Spice things like doing a photoshop with the rest of the girls, the 25th anniversary of SpiceWolrd or even jump on stage at the tour at some point. I guess that Simon and she know that The brand Spice is the more effective tool to boost VB, will be interesting to see what she does.

Apparently the company hasn't achieved profits for 6 years in a row ohmy.gif

Posted by: dannjohn Jan 10 2022, 10:57 AM

Yeah David's basically been funding her fashion line hasn't he?

What I think Victoria's problem is... she doesn't really detach herself from The Spice Girls brand... most of her posts are Posh related or Spice Girls related but shes not involved in the brand at all? It's like she's using the brand for her own business but it feels disconnected and disjointed?

Posted by: schizo_spice Jan 10 2022, 11:14 AM

I think her celebrity always came before her fashion career and that was likely what drove it early on.

I also think she aimed too high too soon. Now she can't go "high street" as it would look like she'd failed at the big time.

Is her cosmetics business doing well? Don't know much about that.

Posted by: sammy01 Jan 10 2022, 02:58 PM

Her fashion business is a glorified hobby but then so is Mel C releasing music. Both lose loads of money on it but recoup in other ways and areas.

Posted by: Mr.X Jan 10 2022, 05:06 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Jan 10 2022, 03:58 PM) *
Her fashion business is a glorified hobby but then so is Mel C releasing music. Both lose loads of money on it but recoup in other ways and areas.


Exactly...

Let's remember that these women are multimillionaires who dont need any more money. They do these ventures out of pure passion for it. Victoria's label would be a much bigger endeavour than Mel C and usually these businesses take a long time to achieve their goals. Having said that, it is a bit odd that the company continues to loose money... They are also not doing Fashion Week anymore, right? She said she cant afford to which isnt a good sign at all...

But ultimately if there was no incentive to continue - i.e. if they didnt see the business that employs so many people and has various branches eventually turning a profit - Im not sure they would bother...

As long as everyone is happy though...

Posted by: -Jay- Apr 17 2022, 09:33 AM

Happy birthday to Victoria, she's 48 today!

Posted by: -Jay- Apr 17 2022, 09:13 PM

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Sending love to my gorgeous girl @victoriabeckham love you to bits! #celebratesoon #Tequilanights
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️



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Happy birthday ! @victoriabeckham - what a woman! 😘 Wishing you the best year ahead. Xxx



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Happy Birthday my darling @victoriabeckham love you to bits and I’m so proud of everything you continue to achieve #girlpower ❤️❤️❤️

Posted by: spiceboy Jun 19 2022, 09:17 AM

Victoria is included in this article about pop stars turned movie stars who was good and who wasn’t so good. Posh gets quite glowing praise.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/pop-star-actors-musicians-worst-best-b1998117.html

Posted by: -Jay- Oct 14 2022, 12:54 AM

Victoria on the Today show, mostly about Paris Fashion week and her make-up:




Posted by: Joshnat192 Oct 14 2022, 10:13 PM

Everytime she says no Spice Girls reunion my heart 💔🥺

Posted by: Equinox8 Oct 14 2022, 11:22 PM

Maybe I'm just naive to her level of star power in the US; I'm surprised she gets interviewed as often as she does!

Posted by: Chemistry Oct 15 2022, 05:11 AM

QUOTE(Equinox8 @ Oct 14 2022, 11:22 PM) *
Maybe I'm just naive to her level of star power in the US; I'm surprised she gets interviewed as often as she does!


Especially since she seems to be saying the same thing in every single interview we have seen her do in the last ten years. I have always loved VB, but she has become one of the most boring celebrities; going on about "David and the kids" on and on and on.

Posted by: Mr.X Oct 15 2022, 10:01 AM

Yeah, as a celebrity I have lost interest in her as it's all quite boring and samey.

Good for her with her success in Paris fashion week though. That's the big one and she killed it!

Posted by: Scary Spiceboy Oct 15 2022, 11:04 AM

I have to agree I have very little interest in her anymore. She will always be my favourite Spice Girl for back in the hey day but that is about it now. Melanie C is the only one I have much interest in anymore.

Posted by: -Jay- Oct 15 2022, 11:27 AM

On the few occasions I watch new Victoria interviews, it is true, she always says pretty much the same things lol. I suppose there’s only so many ways you can answer the same questions. It’s very scripted and surface level stuff. A far cry from the sort of interviews she’d give pre-2010s.

Then again it’s exactly the same for Melanie C in the sense that she too has a few buzz phrases that she says time and time again, recently her favourite is “I realise I am Sporty Spice, I am Melanie C, I am a mum, I’m all of these things”. I think with her though, I’m always interested in her talking about her career, whereas I have essentially no interest in what Victoria has to say about her make up. The part of me that used to be a big fan of Victoria feels like “checking in” with her every so often though lol, so I’ll watch the occasional video.

Posted by: Rebel Oct 15 2022, 11:33 AM

I mean is she even joining Glastonbury at this point? At this point, I prefer her not to participate since she’s not even gonna tour anyway.

Posted by: Mr.X Oct 15 2022, 11:51 AM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Oct 15 2022, 11:27 AM) *
On the few occasions I watch new Victoria interviews, it is true, she always says pretty much the same things lol. I suppose there’s only so many ways you can answer the same questions. It’s very scripted and surface level stuff. A far cry from the sort of interviews she’d give pre-2010s.

Then again it’s exactly the same for Melanie C in the sense that she too has a few buzz phrases that she says time and time again, recently her favourite is “I realise I am Sporty Spice, I am Melanie C, I am a mum, I’m all of these things”. I think with her though, I’m always interested in her talking about her career, whereas I have essentially no interest in what Victoria has to say about her make up. The part of me that used to be a big fan of Victoria feels like “checking in” with her every so often though lol, so I’ll watch the occasional video.


This is where I am at to be honest, with the whole group's solo efforts. The main thing I check is group stuff but when it comes to solo, I dont watch the interviews cos they are all the same. Mel C literally said exactly the same thing over 100 times over the past few months. I'm not deriding them but as a fan, it becomes a bit boring when there is so little in terms of actual music to celebrate, which is what I am interested in.

So Victoria's family and her fashion career is the last thing I check in on. I watch the occasional clip on Spice Circle as facebook makes the videos play automatically but most of the time I just scroll past. When I do watch, Im always a bit cringe about how scripted and fake she sounds, which is sad as she was always one of the most natural and funny ones in the Spice Girls.

And lets not even talk about Emma or Geri's interview skills. Both are incredibly boring these days...

Posted by: Mr.X Oct 15 2022, 11:52 AM

QUOTE(Rebel @ Oct 15 2022, 11:33 AM) *
I mean is she even joining Glastonbury at this point? At this point, I prefer her not to participate since she’s not even gonna tour anyway.


I don't care if she will do Glasto or not. After watching them in arenas in 2008 and then stadiums back in 2019 with her, I don't think she is missed at all in the live setting.

Posted by: -Jay- Oct 25 2022, 04:51 PM

Victoria appearing with Anne Hathaway on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen:







+ I've shared another couple of videos in the Spice Girls General Discussion thread!

Posted by: Voodoo Oct 28 2022, 09:01 PM

Victoria appeared on The Drew Barrymore Show:



I think Victoria got to speak less than Drew, although she still managed to repeat her mantra "Empowering women through fashion (and beauty)". kink.gif

Posted by: -Jay- Dec 30 2022, 10:31 AM

Podcast: Victoria Beckham - Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5CUTR4NqRAsztYsBsQYhoy

Posted by: -Jay- Apr 17 2023, 09:07 PM

It's Victoria's 49th birthday today!

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Happy birthday @victoriabeckham! You’re a superwoman! My Spice sister, we love you to bits! ❤️

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Happy Birthday @victoriabeckham! 🎉😘
Wishing you a fantastic year ahead ❤️ xxx

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Happy Birthday @victoriabeckham ! If you’re feeling a bit old today remember we’re still younger than Geri! (Love you Ginge!)
Have the most wonderful day, love you to pieces and I miss sharing the stage with you, hoping we can do it again some day 🙏🏼

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Celebrating meeeeeee!!😂🥳 last night. I love u all so much!! We miss u @romeobeckham! Kisses @davidbeckham @brooklynpeltzbeckham @cruzbeckham #HarperSeven xx

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In the middle of nowhere with my favourite person 💕💕💕💕💕 @davidbeckham

(Also a couple of stories on Victoria's instagram)

Posted by: spiceboy Apr 18 2023, 05:37 AM

Happy birthday to Victoria!

Posted by: Babyboy May 18 2023, 02:17 PM

Victoria won an The sunday times style beauty award in the category industry icon of the year.

Posted by: Mr.X Jun 7 2023, 02:41 PM

It has dawned on me that actually Victoria barely has ANY lines in all the Biff productions on Spice, not just Wannabe. Like, on the album tracks she is not on 2 Become 1 at all, is barely noticeable on Mama or If You Can't Dance... I know people often point towards Wannabe as her not having any lines, but she also didn't for the most part on any Biff productions, whereas she was very present on Absolute productions.

So, I don't really buy the whole 'she wasnt around for the writing' as she could have been added later in production. They recorded the demo and then recorded the actual final songs later, so it seems very intentional from Biff and Matt that she wasnt included at all back then...

Glad that did change for Spiceworld though! She got some more shinning moments with Biff, for once!

Posted by: Babyboy Jun 7 2023, 06:28 PM

Well, Vic has a verse on 2 Become 1 single version.
I think also they worked together on her unrealased second album.

Posted by: Babyboy Aug 8 2023, 09:19 PM

https://youtu.be/js6w_lJxfSI

Really interesting video about Vic scraped albums.

Posted by: Piers Aug 10 2023, 01:12 PM

QUOTE(Babyboy @ Aug 8 2023, 04:19 PM) *
https://youtu.be/js6w_lJxfSI

Really interesting video about Vic scraped albums.


Thanks for sharing this. Watched the whole thing.

It starts on an overly negative note by initially dismissing Victoria's unreleased music...but as the video progressed, I think it's a lot more fair about what was good and bad in that material.

What I've never understood with V's second album era is why there was such a hard-lined divide between the pop album material and the Damon Dash material. Why did she and her team believe they could only go in one direction or the other? Frankly, the fanbase itself often confuses which songs are from which sessions. I mean, yeah, Be With You is clearly straight from the pop album and It's That Simple is clearly straight from hell...but the better material, I think, slots together well enough. To me, the obvious thing to do would be to take the best of the Damon Dash material (This Groove, Resentment, So Cold)...pair it with the best pop album material (Should Have Known Better, Be With You, Full Stop, Flow, I'd Give It All Away, etc.)...add My Love Is For Real and boom. You'd have an album that not only towers over V's debut...but, I'd argue, would probably be the second best solo Spice album of the 2000-2010 decade behind Emma's Free Me. Given that Emma was a few years ahead of the curve with Free Me's sound, V's potential album might have been the most commercial solo Spice album of that decade.

Now. Would it have gone that way? Would she have used her best stuff? There was enough bad material recorded that it could have been a disaster. Victoria is an intelligent person...which makes It's That Simple all the more baffling. Beyond that, Damon Dash tracks like That Dude and Take You There sound designed to use her voice in the most unflattering way possible. But then, Victoria always seemed to have a fascination with American music producers...which maybe clouded her judgement?

Posted by: Piers Aug 10 2023, 01:18 PM

^ Last thought on this. Beyond V recording a TON of songs with known producers who would have fees, I've wondered to what extent Damon Dash's use of song samples could have spelled trouble for Telstar. A lot of those tracks he did for her use famous song samples...and two of those samples (the Beatles' Come Together and George Michael's Freedom) are from HUGE tracks.

Posted by: -Jay- Aug 10 2023, 01:38 PM

QUOTE(Piers @ Aug 10 2023, 02:12 PM) *
It's That Simple is clearly straight from hell...

laugh.gif

Posted by: McAndrew Aug 10 2023, 02:58 PM

I’d never realised the timing of Resentment. That’s the first time I’d heard about the connection to the alleged affair.

If it’s true, it sheds a new light on the track. Victoria really laid it bare. What a woman.

I love almost all of Open Your Eyes. Such a shame it never got a release. It seemed so ready.

This Groove and Resentment are great too - arguably because of the lyrics.

It’s quite misogynistic that Damon Dash felt it appropriate to comment on VB’s talent, given the standard of his output. He is clearly much less talented as a producer than Victoria is as a vocalist and songwriter. She may not be Mariah. But he is no Jay Z.

Posted by: spiceboy Aug 10 2023, 03:15 PM

I also remember thinking that when he said she was no Mariah... like this is the first I've heard of you!? You're hijacking her fame for this just as much as she is.

Posted by: McAndrew Aug 10 2023, 03:33 PM

QUOTE(spiceboy @ Aug 10 2023, 04:15 PM) *
I also remember thinking that when he said she was no Mariah... like this is the first I've heard of you!? You're hijacking her fame for this just as much as she is.
.

Absolutely. He was using her to flog his jeans.

She honoured her side of the bargain (which was quite a risk, given her fashion ambitions). But he did her dirty with those half-arsed tracks.

Posted by: spiceboy Aug 10 2023, 04:05 PM

QUOTE(McAndrew @ Aug 10 2023, 04:33 PM) *
.

Absolutely. He was using her to flog his jeans.

She honoured her side of the bargain (which was quite a risk, given her fashion ambitions). But he did her dirty with those half-arsed tracks.



I'm not sure if I have heard her work with him? Was This Groove one of his songs? In which case that is actually my favourite Victoria Beckham song it's so sultry and sexy and suits her to the ground! Which ones were his?

Posted by: Voodoo Aug 10 2023, 09:25 PM

QUOTE(Piers @ Aug 10 2023, 04:18 PM) *
I've wondered to what extent Damon Dash's use of song samples could have spelled trouble for Telstar.

A sample needs to be cleared and be paid for only if the sampling song gets a commercial release.

Posted by: McAndrew Aug 10 2023, 09:28 PM

QUOTE(spiceboy @ Aug 10 2023, 05:05 PM) *
I'm not sure if I have heard her work with him? Was This Groove one of his songs? In which case that is actually my favourite Victoria Beckham song it's so sultry and sexy and suits her to the ground! Which ones were his?


From what I understand from the Howard Hands YouTube video, This Groove was indeed a Damon Dash production. And it is good. But I’d say it was very much an outlier in terms of the quality of his work offered to Victoria.

It’s That Simple, was the buzz single that was circulated ahead of This Groove (preceding Simon Fuller’s involvement). It is laughably poor production-wise. I’d say Howard Hands’ assessment is pretty accurate.

By the time we got This Groove, Simon was back on board. So one could surmise that he had a hand in steering that ship. Also, the production relies pretty heavily on the song it samples/covers.

Posted by: spiceboy Aug 10 2023, 09:35 PM

I did not even know this groove sampled another song!! Which song is it? I love it!

Posted by: McAndrew Aug 10 2023, 09:53 PM

QUOTE(spiceboy @ Aug 10 2023, 10:35 PM) *
I did not even know this groove sampled another song!! Which song is it? I love it!

It samples The System’s ‘Don’t Disturb This Groove’ (especially noticeable from 1:15).

For me, it’s Victoria’s vocals and lyrics that elevate ‘This Groove’ above the original though.

Posted by: k👠th the Night Aug 11 2023, 01:02 PM

Eliza Rose finds inspo for her latest music video from Buzzjack hero & OG 00s British video quennnn Victoria Becks 💅

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Posted by: spiceboy Aug 11 2023, 02:28 PM

Iconic Vicky B solo era!

Posted by: Jessie Where Aug 12 2023, 09:29 AM

I haven't heard 'This Groove' in at least 15 years and I forgot how much I liked it!

'Let Your Head Go' is the classic though, I do hope one day it finds its way onto streaming services sad.gif

Posted by: tommie Aug 12 2023, 09:35 AM

Don't Disturb This Groove by The System is such a jam, so This Groove can't go wrong.

Posted by: Equinox8 Aug 12 2023, 12:05 PM

The only CD from VB that I own is the Let Your head Go/This Groove single. Playing it out really doesn't get tired because it showcases two sonic styles for her that work better together than her entire debut album, in my opinion.

I said. What I said. dance.gif

Posted by: Anita Dump Aug 12 2023, 10:31 PM

If VB's career was managed differently - no 1 with Dane, followed by a second no.1 with Dane on I Wish, followrd by Like That, and then My Love is For Rral leading the second album, plus the album kdea above - she would have had a lot of success

My god, It's That Simple is just torture!! My dog and cat woke up and glared at me when I played it! They glared so much I had to turn it off, and they continued glaring for about a minute after!!

Posted by: Mr.X Aug 13 2023, 12:03 AM

I dont know what they were thinking with It's Dat Simple, it's objectively terrible as a song. And she does not sound good...

It's funny with Victoria. She showed a lot of potential with Out Of Your Mind and some of the tracks in her debut were incredible. She is a great studio singer and could really shine in the group! Her harmonies where always on point!

Her second album also had a lot of potential but the partnership with Damon always sounded forced to me. She is not a hip-hop artist, wtf!?

Posted by: McAndrew Aug 13 2023, 08:58 AM

QUOTE(Anita Dump @ Aug 12 2023, 11:31 PM) *
If VB's career was managed differently - no 1 with Dane, followed by a second no.1 with Dane on I Wish, followrd by Like That, and then My Love is For Rral leading the second album, plus the album kdea above - she would have had a lot of success

My god, It's That Simple is just torture!! My dog and cat woke up and glared at me when I played it! They glared so much I had to turn it off, and they continued glaring for about a minute after!!

Haha. Frankly, VB was a trooper to attempt to sing a melody to that beat. The rhythm is a mess.

She must’ve had such a headache afterwards.

Posted by: Anita Dump Aug 14 2023, 12:03 AM

Such a shame that she didn't have the confidence to release it though:(

Singles could have been:

1. My Love Is For Real
2. LYHG/ DD...TG?
3. Open Your Eyes (dance remix)
4. Full Stop or Flow


Posted by: Anita Dump Aug 14 2023, 12:03 AM

QUOTE(k👠th the Night @ Aug 11 2023, 02:02 PM) *
Eliza Rose finds inspo for her latest music video from Buzzjack hero & OG 00s British video quennnn Victoria Becks 💅

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Omfg Eliza Rose gets ET!!! wub.gif :eub:

Posted by: -Jay- Aug 15 2023, 09:00 AM

A post from Popjustice:

QUOTE
I had a chat with a friend-of-a-friend who used to work for David and Victoria's business manager. I was saying how criminal it was that she never released anything after This Groove/Let Your Head Go.

He told me that she resents her solo music career. She actively tried to buy her first album from UMe so that it could be deleted from digital platforms, but the label weren't interested in selling off assets related to the Spice Girls at the time. This was around the time of the 2019 tour announcement. He also said that her contract with Virgin wasn't very favorable to her, which I found odd.

He "thinks" she destroyed the masters she acquired from Teldec.


Ugh… ok, I know she certainly went through it with how the media treated her, and how she must have thought she has a bad public perception too. But what a shame if she genuinely does resent her solo music career now to the extent of wanting it to be deleted? She seemed proud of her music while she was releasing it. If the above post is totally true it certainly explains why This Groove/Let Your Head Go never made it to download/streaming platforms. I assumed a lack of interest and lack of priority, not that she resents it or even went as far as destroying those masters. dry.gif

I feel a bit mixed about this because I understand that years of what was essentially bullying must have knocked all confidence and self belief about her music talents out of her. At the same time I wish she was able to recognise that she did have fans who appreciated her. And that just because the media had it out for her, doesn’t mean they were right.

Posted by: Mr.X Aug 15 2023, 10:50 AM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Aug 15 2023, 10:00 AM) *
A post from Popjustice:
Ugh… ok, I know she certainly went through it with how the media treated her, and how she must have thought she has a bad public perception too. But what a shame if she genuinely does resent her solo music career now to the extent of wanting it to be deleted? She seemed proud of her music while she was releasing it. If the above post is totally true it certainly explains why This Groove/Let Your Head Go never made it to download/streaming platforms. I assumed a lack of interest and lack of priority, not that she resents it or even went as far as destroying those masters. dry.gif

I feel a bit mixed about this because I understand that years of what was essentially bullying must have knocked all confidence and self belief about her music talents out of her. At the same time I wish she was able to recognise that she did have fans who appreciated her. And that just because the media had it out for her, doesn’t mean they were right.


Yeah I agree that the press harrassment of her must have gotten to her pretty badly. I mean, it's no joke. In 2003 she was voted Britain's most hated woman, she was laughed off on national TV, told to quit numerous time and was told everywhere that she was the weakest singer. Hell, she was ridiculed at all stages of her solo career... The press was so vile to them, but particularly her, for so long for every single reason but specially her weight and her career... Talk about sexism... At points it seemed like the whole country was against her for simply existing as a wife, a singer and a public figure. The hatred was palpable.

I remember coming to the UK to see her at TRL back in 2003 and it was so clear the level of animosity she was facing, even with Simon back in charge of management...

That will cause a long lasting effect for sure.

Her debut solo album is nothing to be ashamed of. 'Like That', 'Not That Kind of Girl', ' I Wish', 'No Trix, No Games' are incredible songs. She just chose the wrong singles in a time when everyone was pouncing on her for all the wrong reasons.

It's sad if this is true, but not surprising. Remember that Mel C said to the press during the Spice25 campaign that some demos/unreleased songs will never see the light of the day cos some of the members in the band are not happy with some of their own vocal takes on them. I wouldnt be surprised if this is the main reason we dont get more music-related activities to be honest...

Posted by: Equinox8 Aug 15 2023, 12:53 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Aug 15 2023, 09:00 AM) *
A post from Popjustice:
Ugh… ok, I know she certainly went through it with how the media treated her, and how she must have thought she has a bad public perception too. But what a shame if she genuinely does resent her solo music career now to the extent of wanting it to be deleted? She seemed proud of her music while she was releasing it. If the above post is totally true it certainly explains why This Groove/Let Your Head Go never made it to download/streaming platforms. I assumed a lack of interest and lack of priority, not that she resents it or even went as far as destroying those masters. dry.gif

I feel a bit mixed about this because I understand that years of what was essentially bullying must have knocked all confidence and self belief about her music talents out of her. At the same time I wish she was able to recognise that she did have fans who appreciated her. And that just because the media had it out for her, doesn’t mean they were right.


If it's true that she resents her solo music career, so be it. I'm also not surprised, seeing as how she gave it zero attention during the ROTSG tour (neither did Mel B, but that probably had more to do with her manipulative spouse at the time than anything; but I digress).

I find it interesting (and comical) that with the 2019 tour announcement, she was like "screw all of you, I'm not going on tour, and OH YEAH I'M GOING TO SEE IF I CAN COMPLETELY WIPE MY SOLO CAREER OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH BECAUSE I WILL NEED A PROJECT WHILE I'M NOT GOING ON TOUR WITH YOU". As if the 2019 tour was going to reinvigorate attention to her solo music. I just don't see the logic there -- unless she thought that some kind of compilation was looming that would feature some solo material from each of the girls? Who knows!

Posted by: Anita Dump Aug 15 2023, 04:37 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Aug 15 2023, 10:00 AM) *
A post from Popjustice:
Ugh… ok, I know she certainly went through it with how the media treated her, and how she must have thought she has a bad public perception too. But what a shame if she genuinely does resent her solo music career now to the extent of wanting it to be deleted? She seemed proud of her music while she was releasing it. If the above post is totally true it certainly explains why This Groove/Let Your Head Go never made it to download/streaming platforms. I assumed a lack of interest and lack of priority, not that she resents it or even went as far as destroying those masters. dry.gif

I feel a bit mixed about this because I understand that years of what was essentially bullying must have knocked all confidence and self belief about her music talents out of her. At the same time I wish she was able to recognise that she did have fans who appreciated her. And that just because the media had it out for her, doesn’t mean they were right.


Omg that's awful, but it does explain the streaming situation. Honestly, I'm not surprised. Her material was good, her voice was a good pop voice - there have been much worse!! - and she looked every bit a popstar. She even wrote her own songs... But Jonathan Ross attacked hee like crazy and had the audience jeering her, telling hee to quit, and ahe gor rhere everywhere. The press poisoned everyrhing vs her, and it all started with rhem stealing her no.1. Had that not happened, maybe thibgs would have gone better, ans it woulda been harder for the press to attack. What thwy did was weaponise the David Beckham jealousy vs her, and rhen had people revel in her loss, and it snowballed from there.

Posted by: Anita Dump Aug 15 2023, 04:38 PM

It's totally unfair on the fans, though, ans VB should have eiden ir our foe us, even if she focused on other markets. Surely she should have sewn by now how thw press can destroy music careers, bu4 it has little basis in how good the material or singer is...

Posted by: Voodoo Aug 20 2023, 08:57 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Aug 15 2023, 01:50 PM) *
It's sad if this is true, but not surprising. Remember that Mel C said to the press during the Spice25 campaign that some demos/unreleased songs will never see the light of the day cos some of the members in the band are not happy with some of their own vocal takes on them. I wouldnt be surprised if this is the main reason we dont get more music-related activities to be honest...

This explains why we got Feed Your Love as it's Mel B-heavy, whereas Likely Stories features Victoria quite substantially.

Posted by: tommie Aug 20 2023, 09:06 AM

The Spice Girls, even going as far as oblitirating all proof of their music careers.

Posted by: Piers Aug 22 2023, 01:23 PM

QUOTE(McAndrew @ Aug 10 2023, 09:58 AM) *
I’d never realised the timing of Resentment. That’s the first time I’d heard about the connection to the alleged affair.

If it’s true, it sheds a new light on the track. Victoria really laid it bare. What a woman.


So. About this. It's been nearly 20 years since all of this happened, so it's possible my memory is rusty...but I really don't remember the press noticing that Victoria had perhaps recorded a song admitting the David affair. It's possible the timing was just off for that. I believe that song quietly landed on the Real Beckhams DVD early in 2004...and it was later...in that spring that the Rebecca Loos story emerged. The affair allegedly happened in 2003, so it's possible Victoria had channeled her emotions into that song. Granted, Victoria did not write that track...but it did seem the lyrics were somewhat tailored to her. The Jazmine Sullivan version of the song is nearly identical lyrically...but it doesn't have the "mistress" and "rolling with you for five years" lyrics. I think the Beckhams always denied the Rebecca Loos story, so you'd think the press could have had a field day with that song. I do remember Victoria getting criticism for releasing the songs on a DVD...and some articles claiming that the release was a retreat from putting out a traditional release. But my guess is none of those writers actually listened to the songs. Perhaps for the best. While I think Resentment is excellent and actually single-worthy...That Dude and Valentine's Day should have never seen the light of day.

Posted by: Mr.X Aug 22 2023, 05:06 PM

QUOTE(Piers @ Aug 22 2023, 02:23 PM) *
So. About this. It's been nearly 20 years since all of this happened, so it's possible my memory is rusty...but I really don't remember the press noticing that Victoria had perhaps recorded a song admitting the David affair. It's possible the timing was just off for that. I believe that song quietly landed on the Real Beckhams DVD early in 2004...and it was later...in that spring that the Rebecca Loos story emerged. The affair allegedly happened in 2003, so it's possible Victoria had channeled her emotions into that song. Granted, Victoria did not write that track...but it did seem the lyrics were somewhat tailored to her. The Jazmine Sullivan version of the song is nearly identical lyrically...but it doesn't have the "mistress" and "rolling with you for five years" lyrics. I think the Beckhams always denied the Rebecca Loos story, so you'd think the press could have had a field day with that song. I do remember Victoria getting criticism for releasing the songs on a DVD...and some articles claiming that the release was a retreat from putting out a traditional release. But my guess is none of those writers actually listened to the songs. Perhaps for the best. While I think Resentment is excellent and actually single-worthy...That Dude and Valentine's Day should have never seen the light of day.


Yeah, I always thought that the lack of press attention to that particular song was quite weird. Clearly no-one listened to it, or the other songs in the DVD, they were all simply dismissed as the press probably just wanted to take it as another opportunity to dismiss her as a singer, and completely overshaddowed the potential for even more drama with the song... the UK press has always been completely ridiculous (and should be shut down tbh), so ridiculous that they always go completely over the mark, so no surprises here... At least if it had, maybe the DVD would have actually sold anything or attracted any traction?...

There wasnt even any promo whatsoever for the DVD beyond some posters around London I think.. I think at that point it was pretty much over for Victoria to be honest, which is probably why they didn't do anything to boost it. Telstar was pretty much burst by the time it was released, right?

About Resentment... it is such a great song and no-one believes me about the Beyonce connection lol... it's too random an association.

Agree on That Dude and Valentine's... Both awful and she sounds terrible on them...

Posted by: tommie Aug 22 2023, 06:42 PM

Poor Victoria gets so much flack for Telstar going bankrupt, but that label seemed to be really incompetently built - by all accounts, the financial troubles also started before Let Your Head Go / This Groove; Rosie Ribbons (former Pop Idol, remember that?) got a rather decent deal with them and was dropped after her second single. They also seemed to go hard with "celebs" like Clare Sweeney etc. I don't think anything could've saved Telstar by the time they actually unleashed LYHG / TG; if anything The Real Beckhams DVD was just a last ditch attempt to make something back.

Posted by: Equinox8 Aug 22 2023, 07:23 PM

Seems that a lot of things went belly-up simultaneously around (and likely before) the time LYHG / TG was released. Perfect storm coupled with (what I would call) the peak of the anti-Spice movement by the press.

Posted by: -Jay- Aug 23 2023, 02:02 AM

I wonder why Victoria went with Telstar anyway? I think Polydor would have been a better fit for her. I wonder if there was interest from other labels or not?


The news of her signing with Telstar occurred in November 2002, which wasn't all that long after she split from Virgin (June 2002).

"Victoria Beckham has signed a record deal with Telstar, believed to be worth £1.5m sterling.

A spokeswoman for the former (Posh) Spice Girl said she will start work on a new album for her new label this side of Christmas. "She will be back in the recording studio before the end of the year, with new material out in 2003."

"“Victoria is over the moon with Telstar. It’s the same label as Craig David and he has had massive success,” an insider said."

Posted by: tommie Aug 23 2023, 04:21 AM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Aug 23 2023, 02:02 AM) *
I wonder why Victoria went with Telstar anyway? I think Polydor would have been a better fit for her. I wonder if there was interest from other labels or not?


I got the impression there might've been some connection with Simon Fuller / 19 Management considering they also signed people like Rosie Ribbons and The Cheeky Girls? I think they also made a big deal out of her signing a "£1.5 million contract", though I guess depending on how many albums the contract spanned and how the pay outs were planned I'm not sure if it was such a huge deal; by some accounts they signed Rosie Ribbons for a £1 million deal spanning five albums (speaking of bad investments!).

To be honest, Victoria just never had a chance by the time she released Let Your Head Go / This Groove. The label was seemingly already in ruin and it's not like her time table was massively off from her first release. At worst you could argue they might've wanted to get something out in the summer of 2003 instead of late winter, but I don't think she would've saved the label from folding even if she had a multiple week number one record.

Posted by: Piers Aug 23 2023, 06:06 AM

I definitely don't know enough about Telstar to say exactly how many people share the blame for its collapse. Their Wikipedia page mostly blames Victoria. I do think it seems plausible that Victoria would be largely responsible. She'd recorded two full albums worth of unreleased material...and was perhaps even heading toward a third collection of songs starting with My Love Is For Real. All of these (30 or so?) songs were done with big name collaborators. Furthermore, the Damon Dash tracks that did get a release sampled famous songs...namely This Groove and Resentment...(and, I think, That Dude samples something too). I don't know all the workings of a record company, but I'm assuming this was all getting expensive for them...without an actual album on the market.

I'm not trying to be overly negative on her. I firmly believe VB's unreleased Open Your Eyes material is the best stuff she ever did. I think her unreleased Come Together material is the worst she did, but we'll focus on the positive.

All I know is 2003 must have been wild for Telstar. Here's Victoria...back with reliable collaborator, Richard Stannard. They've developed a new sound for the album. There's great dance tracks...beautiful ballads. She's never sounded better. And then she trashes it all, wants to start over, and shows up with It's That Simple one day and wants to send THAT to radio.

Posted by: Equinox8 Aug 24 2023, 07:25 PM

QUOTE(Piers @ Aug 23 2023, 06:06 AM) *
And then she trashes it all, wants to start over, and shows up with It's That Simple one day and wants to send THAT to radio.


This.
Could you imagine if THAT was her last official single? At least she stopped on a high with LYHG/TG.

Posted by: Rebel Oct 5 2023, 06:25 PM

Anyone watched the Beckham’s Netflix doc yet? I just finished it and it has quite a few interviews with Victoria as well. Seeing her singing “This Groove” really makes me miss her as a popstar.

Posted by: Voodoo Oct 5 2023, 09:45 PM

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Posted by: pippa Oct 5 2023, 10:55 PM

QUOTE(Piers @ Aug 23 2023, 07:06 AM) *
I definitely don't know enough about Telstar to say exactly how many people share the blame for its collapse. Their Wikipedia page mostly blames Victoria. I do think it seems plausible that Victoria would be largely responsible. She'd recorded two full albums worth of unreleased material...and was perhaps even heading toward a third collection of songs starting with My Love Is For Real. All of these (30 or so?) songs were done with big name collaborators. Furthermore, the Damon Dash tracks that did get a release sampled famous songs...namely This Groove and Resentment...(and, I think, That Dude samples something too). I don't know all the workings of a record company, but I'm assuming this was all getting expensive for them...without an actual album on the market.

I'm not trying to be overly negative on her. I firmly believe VB's unreleased Open Your Eyes material is the best stuff she ever did. I think her unreleased Come Together material is the worst she did, but we'll focus on the positive.

All I know is 2003 must have been wild for Telstar. Here's Victoria...back with reliable collaborator, Richard Stannard. They've developed a new sound for the album. There's great dance tracks...beautiful ballads. She's never sounded better. And then she trashes it all, wants to start over, and shows up with It's That Simple one day and wants to send THAT to radio.

Do you think any of the material will ever get released?

Posted by: Babyboy Oct 6 2023, 05:50 AM

It leaked online years ago and she is into fashion now, so probably never.

Posted by: Voodoo Oct 6 2023, 09:46 AM

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Posted by: Rebel Oct 6 2023, 10:05 AM

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This has gone viral now, everyone is posting about it online biggrin.gif

Posted by: -Jay- Oct 7 2023, 03:25 AM

Temporarily removing the iconic "Empowering women through fashion x" thread subtitle magic.gif

Posted by: dancinqueen Oct 8 2023, 10:21 AM

She went viral with that thing.
Mixed reactions. I thought that working class part was a bit staged.

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Posted by: Mr.X Mar 5 2024, 11:05 PM

HHmmmm... there's a video on Facebook of a fan calling Victoria a 'Queen' and Victoria replying with 'f*** you' teresa.gif

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1778564395945812

Seems like she was not having a great night and lashed out on the fan blink.gif

Posted by: -Jay- Mar 5 2024, 11:31 PM

From what I can tell she’s actually saying that to the man who speaks after the person who says “queen” - but I don’t understand what he said for Victoria to react that way!

Posted by: Rebel Mar 6 2024, 12:53 AM

I think I hear, “Can I take a picture with you?”. But I might be wrong considering the response lol.

Posted by: sammy01 Mar 6 2024, 08:25 AM

2024 just keeps getting better in Spiceworld.

Posted by: TheShow Mar 6 2024, 11:41 AM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Mar 5 2024, 11:31 PM) *
I don’t understand what he said for Victoria to react that way!

I think he said: "Hey Vicky, can you please put Let Your Head Go on streaming?"

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Posted by: spiceboy Mar 6 2024, 12:45 PM

QUOTE(TheShow @ Mar 6 2024, 11:41 AM) *
I think he said: "Hey Vicky, can you please put Let Your Head Go on streaming?"

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Posted by: Jessie Where Mar 6 2024, 05:23 PM

laugh.gif laugh.gif !!

What happened for her to be requiring crutches?

Posted by: Anita Hanjaab Mar 6 2024, 06:00 PM

QUOTE(TheShow @ Mar 6 2024, 11:41 AM) *
I think he said: "Hey Vicky, can you please put Let Your Head Go on streaming?"

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!!!!

You'd rhink she'd know better by now not to react like that though

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