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 Ten-year-olds charged with sex crimes, How is society to blame,and how can it be corrected? |
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 12th November 2006, 05:02 PM
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HUNDREDS of 10-year-old children were charged with crimes last year, including serious sexual offences, robbery, actual bodily harm and assaulting a police officer.
In Lancashire a 10-year-old boy was arrested in May 2005 for raping a young girl with another boy. The 10-year-old was later charged with “aiding and abetting” her rape and engaging in “penetrative sexual activity” with the girl. The case will be heard in a youth court next year. It is one of at least three sexual offences committed by 10-year-olds where the police pressed charges, according to details released under the Freedom of Information Act by 27 of the 43 police forces in England and Wales. Experts say the real number of sexual crimes committed by primary school children may be much higher as many victims are too afraid to tell anyone they have been attacked. “I think this is just the tip of the iceberg and a large proportion start offending from as young as eight or nine,” said Julia Davidson, principal lecturer in criminology at Westminster University and an expert on child crime. “Some may have been abused themselves in a family or peer environment and copy that kind of behaviour, which makes it largely a hidden offence,” she said. The details of these crimes have been released as an 11-year-old boy is due to appear at Preston crown court this week charged with two offences of rape and two counts of attempted rape of an eight-year-old girl in Blackpool last April. If found guilty, he would be one of the youngest people in Britain to be convicted of rape. Among the other sexual offences released to The Sunday Times last week, a 10-year-old boy in Burnley was arrested in October last year for rape and charged with the assault “of a girl under 13 by touching”. Another boy in south Wales was sentenced to a three-month “action plan order” after being charged with a sexual offence. The figures released by police forces show that about 270 children aged 10 were charged with criminal offences between April 2005 and March this year. While most of the charges were for criminal damage and shoplifting offences, they also included more than 50 assaults and 12 robberies. The most recent figures from the Youth Justice Board show that nationally between 2003/4 and 2004/5, violent offences by 10-year-olds rose 33% |
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12th November 2006, 05:09 PM
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Bring back borstal and introduce tough child prisons where they have to do manual labour etc instead of the current youth custody centres where there are playstation 2's etc, a tough brutal regime short sharp shock that will hopefully put them off crime for life
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12th November 2006, 05:55 PM
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what do you expect when sex is everywhere... ramed down your throats day in day out... pop music being one of the main offenders...
most pop videos by female artistes are just not suitable material for minors to view. |
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12th November 2006, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(mushymanrob @ Nov 12 2006, 06:19 PM)  what do you expect when sex is everywhere... ramed down your throats day in day out... pop music being one of the main offenders... most pop videos by female artistes are just not suitable material for minors to view. I agree. Some of those videos really are awful! The hip-hop videos too. That is terrible though. 10 yr olds! They're kids themselves. |
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12th November 2006, 06:52 PM
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Yes they are terrible but so are horror films but the reason for this is bad parenting, if kids were disciplined in the home, if they were given a smack when they were naughty, if they were taught the difference between right and wrong by parent or parents then I don't think this country would be in half the crisis it is now, I think bad parenting is the reason, what to do about bad parenting is another matter
Sleazy music videos have been going on for 20 years, Madonna in her early days made Aguilera and Spears seem like nuns with her sleazyness and costumes and cavorting on stage, we had videos from the likes of George Michael like "I want your sex" and a Massive Attack video with full frontal nudity and both of those are like 15 years old, NWA are at least 15/20 years old but it is the current generation of upcoming kids that are the problem more so than previous generations and these sleazy pop videos were about then so I think it is simplistic to put the blame on music videos This post has been edited by Kimi Räikkönen: 12th November 2006, 06:53 PM |
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12th November 2006, 06:56 PM
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But the music videos have got worse. And more kids with Sky in their rooms watching god knows what, what do you expect.
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12th November 2006, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(x-The_Royston_Poisoner-x @ Nov 12 2006, 07:20 PM) But the music videos have got worse. And more kids with Sky in their rooms watching god knows what, what do you expect. It's up to the parents to ensure kids don't have access to these channels, its up to parents to use parental control software to ensure kids can't access porn sites, it is up to parents to ensure that their kids are in bed at an appropriate time so they can't watch sleazy late night porn channels |
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12th November 2006, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(Kimi Räikkönen @ Nov 12 2006, 07:24 PM) It's up to the parents to ensure kids don't have access to these channels, its up to parents to use parental control software to ensure kids can't access porn sites, it is up to parents to ensure that their kids are in bed at an appropriate time so they can't watch sleazy late night porn channels Yes I know. |
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12th November 2006, 10:26 PM
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I work with youngsters and I'm continually shocked by the number of under 11s who are watching 18 rated films, unsupervised. This is down to poor parenting. Another thing I believe is that children younger than 10 should know the difference between right and wrong. The problems arise when the parents do not set good standards and fail to instil decent morals and values in their children.
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12th November 2006, 11:32 PM
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This past summer I was sitting out my back garden and there was a gang of kids playing over in the garden opposite. I couldn't help but listen in to their conversation and what I heard really shocked me.
These kids ranged in age from about 6 to 9 and the language they were using would have made me blush after 20 vodkas on a night out with the girls. And it wasn't just 'words' they had picked up from adults. They clearly knew and understood what the words meant.  I couldn't help but think back to when I was that age. Never in a million years did I have the 'knowledge' these kids quite obviously have. It is all so sad. They have lost their innocence. They have lost their childhood in fact. It is feckless parents to blame. Kids of 6 or 7 shouldn't be watching adult DVDs or TV progs. But many parents don't supervise any more. They let their kids do what they want. But it's a marketing/money thing as well isn't it? You have acts like the Pussycat Dolls/Britney etc quite clearly being targetted at young girls. These kids then want to emulate their heroines. The content in these acts lyrics/videos isn't suitable for the age group the marketing men are trying to encourage to part with their pocket money. Acts in various states of undress with their bits hanging out shouldn't be appearing on kid's TV shows. But they do. Likewise Eminem. I love the guy but no way should parents be buying Eminem CDs for their kids. But they do. And don't get me started on a lot of the Hip Hop/RnB videos. They are so mysoginistic it's sickening. And again, kids watch MTV. The content of the videos becomes their 'norm'. It's hardly surprising we're seeing 10 year olds charged with sex crimes. 
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13th November 2006, 07:22 AM
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... but its not just rap/hiphop vids.... general pop vids have it too.. rachel stevens for eg... they might not be as graphic but put a female in a pop vid and shes semi-naked.
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13th November 2006, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(Kimi Räikkönen @ Nov 12 2006, 07:16 PM) Sleazy music videos have been going on for 20 years, Madonna in her early days made Aguilera and Spears seem like nuns with her sleazyness and costumes and cavorting on stage, we had videos from the likes of George Michael like "I want your sex" and a Massive Attack video with full frontal nudity and both of those are like 15 years old, NWA are at least 15/20 years old but it is the current generation of upcoming kids that are the problem more so than previous generations and these sleazy pop videos were about then so I think it is simplistic to put the blame on music videos I think you're totally wrong mate, Madonna's vids were nowhere near as tacky, manipulative, nasty and downright sleazy as most of what is being produced today, they're actually pretty tasteful and artistic in comparison.. NWA had an actual political/social point to make as well, unlike many of today's rap artists who are just going on about 'bling' and pure materialism. Madonna's and George Michael's more erotic vids tended to be shown after the watershed, not anything like the unfettered access that there is now... You look at Frankie Goes To Hollywood's "Relax" video today, it looks like a comedy sketch, or the equivalent of a naughty seaside postcard compared to the soft-core pornography you get now... |
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13th November 2006, 10:16 AM
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Fair point but I am still not convinced that exposure to this kind of thing is the real reason for large portions of this current generation being bad apples, I saw stuff like The Exorcist and Clockwork Orange and Straw Dogs etc at ages I should not have seen them and it never gave me the urge to go and kill people, rape people, kill police or whatever, I think people that go out and commit crimes after watching horror movies or tacky music videos are already bad people and these things just act as the catalyst as opposed to acting as the reason, if an Aguilera video turns them to rape someone then thry need to be seriously ****ed in the head in the first place tbh and if that video didn't do it something else would have done.
I think another factor, infact the biggest of the lot is the free availability of porn on the net, in my day we had to bribe someone over 18 to go and buy us a copy of Penthouse or Playboy from the top shelf of the newsagent to give us something to look at behind the bike sheds now all a kid has to do is type the word Porn into Google and they have immediate on demand pics of disgusting sluts degrading themselves by spreading their legs and shoving all sorts of disgusting things up their various holes which I would say encourages these kids to do sex attacks far more than an Aguilera or Spears video would as they lower women to nothing more than sex objects in these chav kids eyes. This post has been edited by Kimi Räikkönen: 13th November 2006, 10:20 AM |
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13th November 2006, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(Kimi Räikkönen @ Nov 13 2006, 10:40 AM) Fair point but I am still not convinced that exposure to this kind of thing is the real reason for large portions of this current generation being bad apples, I saw stuff like The Exorcist and Clockwork Orange and Straw Dogs etc at ages I should not have seen them and it never gave me the urge to go and kill people, rape people, kill police or whatever, I think people that go out and commit crimes after watching horror movies or tacky music videos are already bad people and these things just act as the catalyst as opposed to acting as the reason, if an Aguilera video turns them to rape someone then thry need to be seriously ****ed in the head in the first place tbh and if that video didn't do it something else would have done. I think another factor, infact the biggest of the lot is the free availability of porn on the net, in my day we had to bribe someone over 18 to go and buy us a copy of Penthouse or Playboy from the top shelf of the newsagent to give us something to look at behind the bike sheds now all a kid has to do is type the word Porn into Google and they have immediate on demand pics of disgusting sluts degrading themselves by spreading their legs and shoving all sorts of disgusting things up their various holes which I would say encourages these kids to do sex attacks far more than an Aguilera or Spears video would as they lower women to nothing more than sex objects in these chav kids eyes. I never thought I'd agree with you. Mushy stop using this thread as another excuse to slag off pop music you moaning old fool. I work with kids aged 14-15 - I go into the school and I have to walk around inbetween classes or at lunchtime. Have you been into a school just recently? Ask any redblooded male an opinion on the latest Pussycat Dolls video and he'll say 'yeh they're fit' or some stupid chav saying - it doesn't make him want to go out and rape a 9 year old child though. I mean I feel old - I'm only 18 and at school we knew the basic swear words - the basic things about sex which even now when I think back most of what we discussed was wrong and just guess work  I agree with what Ozzy says - the internet is to blame for this uptrend in sick and nasty crimes - the videos on Youtube - people thinking it FUN to film crimes or sick things on their mobile phones, the avaliabilty of porn - some of the sites the school kids find and view and have to be blocked at the school are disgusting and they have nothing whatsoever to do with Britney Spears, Aguilera or any other pop bint - if anything they are more influenced by the Americanised Hip-Hop $h!t that discusses guns and lyrics that deem it appropriate to be on drugs and talk about sex in vile ways. This post has been edited by Grami: 13th November 2006, 11:17 AM |
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13th November 2006, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(Kimi Räikkönen @ Nov 13 2006, 10:40 AM) Fair point but I am still not convinced that exposure to this kind of thing is the real reason for large portions of this current generation being bad apples, I saw stuff like The Exorcist and Clockwork Orange and Straw Dogs etc at ages I should not have seen them and it never gave me the urge to go and kill people, rape people, kill police or whatever, I think people that go out and commit crimes after watching horror movies or tacky music videos are already bad people and these things just act as the catalyst as opposed to acting as the reason, if an Aguilera video turns them to rape someone then thry need to be seriously ****ed in the head in the first place tbh and if that video didn't do it something else would have done. I think another factor, infact the biggest of the lot is the free availability of porn on the net, in my day we had to bribe someone over 18 to go and buy us a copy of Penthouse or Playboy from the top shelf of the newsagent to give us something to look at behind the bike sheds now all a kid has to do is type the word Porn into Google and they have immediate on demand pics of disgusting sluts degrading themselves by spreading their legs and shoving all sorts of disgusting things up their various holes which I would say encourages these kids to do sex attacks far more than an Aguilera or Spears video would as they lower women to nothing more than sex objects in these chav kids eyes. Completely agree, the internet is to blame and those were very good examples you gave, and i think i the parents should share same of that blame too, they need to supervise what their kids are getting up to. |
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13th November 2006, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(Grami @ Nov 13 2006, 11:38 AM) I never thought I'd agree with you. Mushy stop using this thread as another excuse to slag off pop music you moaning old fool. I work with kids aged 14-15 - I go into the school and I have to walk around inbetween classes or at lunchtime. Have you been into a school just recently? Ask any redblooded male an opinion on the latest Pussycat Dolls video and he'll say 'yeh they're fit' or some stupid chav saying - it doesn't make him want to go out and rape a 9 year old child though. I mean I feel old - I'm only 18 and at school we knew the basic swear words - the basic things about sex which even now when I think back most of what we discussed was wrong and just guess work I agree with what Ozzy says - the internet is to blame for this uptrend in sick and nasty crimes - the videos on Youtube - people thinking it FUN to film crimes or sick things on their mobile phones, the avaliabilty of porn - some of the sites the school kids find and view and have to be blocked at the school are disgusting and they have nothing whatsoever to do with Britney Spears, Aguilera or any other pop bint - if anything they are more influenced by the Americanised Hip-Hop $h!t that discusses guns and lyrics that deem it appropriate to be on drugs and talk about sex in vile ways. You're right and wrong at the same time... Any one vid taken in isolation is not in itself going to cause potential probs, it is the constant drip, drip effect and the sheer level of saturation over the net and on the media in general that is causing the problems... The fashion industry (which is inexorably linked to popular music..) also has a lot to answer for, there really is nothing more distasteful in seeing sexy tops being produced and marketed for pre-teen girls. Disgusting... I once saw a kid on the streets wearing a top bearing the legend "so many boys, so little time". What the fukk are the parents thinking.....? If you're so concerned about kids filming crimes on mobile phones, then the answer is simple - ban anyone under the age of 18 from ownership of a video-capable mobile phone... A trifle harsh, but let's face it, the instances of "Happy Slapping" would disappear practically overnight.... |
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13th November 2006, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(GRIMLY FIENDISH @ Nov 13 2006, 02:34 PM) If you're so concerned about kids filming crimes on mobile phones, then the answer is simple - ban anyone under the age of 18 from ownership of a video-capable mobile phone... A trifle harsh, but let's face it, the instances of "Happy Slapping" would disappear practically overnight.... You can 'ban' things all you like but it's not going to stop them from getting hold of them is it? It'd probably make some people think they're hard for having one too. 
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13th November 2006, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(Grami @ Nov 13 2006, 11:38 AM) I never thought I'd agree with you. Mushy stop using this thread as another excuse to slag off pop music you moaning old fool. I work with kids aged 14-15 - I go into the school and I have to walk around inbetween classes or at lunchtime. Have you been into a school just recently? Ask any redblooded male an opinion on the latest Pussycat Dolls video and he'll say 'yeh they're fit' or some stupid chav saying - it doesn't make him want to go out and rape a 9 year old child though. I mean I feel old - I'm only 18 and at school we knew the basic swear words - the basic things about sex which even now when I think back most of what we discussed was wrong and just guess work I agree with what Ozzy says - the internet is to blame for this uptrend in sick and nasty crimes - the videos on Youtube - people thinking it FUN to film crimes or sick things on their mobile phones, the avaliabilty of porn - some of the sites the school kids find and view and have to be blocked at the school are disgusting and they have nothing whatsoever to do with Britney Spears, Aguilera or any other pop bint - if anything they are more influenced by the Americanised Hip-Hop $h!t that discusses guns and lyrics that deem it appropriate to be on drugs and talk about sex in vile ways. im not slagging off pop music, im slagging off the porno vids that accompany it! which are unsuitable for children. when kids are exposed to these sexual images of course itll effect them, i too have witnessed first hand pre-teens talking 'adult' convo.. and yes graham, i work in schools at all levels. just because a bunch of chavs dont go and rape a 9 year old doesnt mean that EVERYONE wont! 1 is 1 too many and if these vids contribute by exposing and thus hardening peoples attitudes then its wrong. this exposure is desensitising the young, so when they get older they look for more extreme ways of getting satisfaction.... maybe thats why there are so many peados and rapists today. |
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13th November 2006, 07:49 PM
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The computer games on sale today also encourage violence, there's one going the round now called school bully or something like that where you go around school beating characters up for points
 youngsters,boys especially are playing these games in their own bedrooms and the parents have no idea of the content of these games. |
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