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BuzzJack Music Forum _ Kylie and Dannii Minogue _ Butterfly (demo)

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 28th July 2018, 03:40 PM

The demo version of 'Butterfly' has emerged this week, this is what it originally sounded like before it evolved into the poppers O'clock delight we all know and love.

It's quite reminiscent of Dannii's 'Girl' era in terms of its sound.


Posted by: pippa 6th June 2019, 02:37 PM

I missed this thread until now.
This highlights how songs can develop and become so much better.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th June 2019, 10:48 PM

The demo isnt bad at all but obviously not as great as what we have now. I have always been a big fan of butterfly

Posted by: ___∆___ 7th June 2019, 07:04 PM

I love Butterfly - good to hear the demo but not as good as the finished version.

Posted by: pippa 7th June 2019, 08:15 PM

It is one of the songs that still sounds good as a demo.

Posted by: tommie 7th June 2019, 08:21 PM

QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jul 28 2018, 03:40 PM) *
It's quite reminiscent of Dannii's 'Girl' era in terms of its sound.


Well, that and the dancier / electronic moments of Impossible Princess. It's interesting to hear how the sound between the albums evolved since it's often seen as this big step forward (or back if you will).

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 7th June 2019, 09:30 PM

I'd love to hear all of the light years album in demo version to see how the songs changed.

Posted by: SamJudd 7th June 2019, 10:20 PM

This sounds pretty good, a very 90's sound to it. Of course doesn't compare to the final version, but very interesting though. I would love to hear what 'Spinning Around' originally sounded like, because apparently that had a guitar section in it.

Posted by: Medellíam 8th June 2019, 12:34 AM

I'm interested to know when this version came about. Despite what the photo in the YouTube video may suggest, I can't find anything online that suggests this came from the Impossible Princess era, other than it was co-written by Steve Anderson. I was also under the impression that Kylie signed to Parlophone with every intention of creating a pop record and that version of 'Butterfly' doesn't seem to fit that.

I prefer the final version and it's hard not to think about that when listening to this demo, but I do think it works really well in its demo form. Very late 90s sounding, kinda reminds me of Madonna's Ray of Light album actually.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 8th June 2019, 12:36 AM

Kylie def signed to parlophone to make a pop album as I remember her saying that and to be fair light years hit the nail on the head.the first time I listened to the album I remember been very excited by kylie again and really felt it was a whopper of a comeback that was so unpredicted by many. I just loved the light years era in full.

Posted by: slowdown73 8th June 2019, 11:40 AM

The album version is better than the demo. Butterfly is a great track and a lot better than some of her later singles from the Parlophone era. I still think Light Years could have been pushed a lot more with further singles as it was packed with potential hits.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 8th June 2019, 08:19 PM

Totally agree about the singles and for me a few of the album tracks were better than all the singles and there are not many albums I can say that about.

Posted by: tommie 10th June 2019, 06:42 AM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Jun 8 2019, 08:19 PM) *
Totally agree about the singles and for me a few of the album tracks were better than all the singles and there are not many albums I can say that about.


That's not hard though - for me On A Night Like This, Kids and Please Stay are duds in her singles discography (especially the former). I'd say both Butterfly and Light Years deserved the single treatment, but I can see why OANLT and PS were chosen as both are very radio friendly "crowd pleasers" (and obviously, not releasing a Robbie Williams duet at that point would've just been stupid). tongue.gif

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th June 2019, 09:55 AM

Under the influence, butterfly and light years are all better tracks than the singles for me.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 10th June 2019, 04:24 PM

AGHAST at the suggestion of 'On a Night Like This' being a dud in her discography. ohmy.gif

Posted by: pippa 10th June 2019, 04:40 PM

I wouldn't refer to it as a dud but i don't share the same love for the song like many others do.
I would however, refer to it as a good single and probably the best single from Light years despite it not been the best track from the album.

Posted by: Medellíam 10th June 2019, 04:50 PM

I'd have liked a Spring 2001 single and if it couldn't be 'Your Disco Needs You' then I think 'Butterfly' would have been a great choice. It certainly packs a punch and a video had the potential to be fantastic. We know the clubs loved it so I think it would have been wise to capitalise on that. It's often felt like Kylie's team, whoever they were, were hesitant to push her club potential, like during the Let's Get To It and Impossible Princess where they favoured the more chart/radio-friendly tracks.

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th June 2019, 04:58 PM

QUOTE(Medellíam @ Jun 10 2019, 05:50 PM) *
I'd have liked a Spring 2001 single and if it couldn't be 'Your Disco Needs You' then I think 'Butterfly' would have been a great choice. It certainly packs a punch and a video had the potential to be fantastic. We know the clubs loved it so I think it would have been wise to capitalise on that. It's often felt like Kylie's team, whoever they were, were hesitant to push her club potential, like during the Let's Get To It and Impossible Princess where they favoured the more chart/radio-friendly tracks.


Agree with this - also odd that ‘Butterfly’ got LOADS of remixes and was released on an indie label in the US (And the CD single now sells for £50+) but was never pushed outside of this.

Posted by: pippa 10th June 2019, 05:02 PM

Butterfly despite the team not wanting to push her club potential showed signs that it could have been a hit if pushed.
I would be certain Butterfly would have become a far bigger hit than Please Stay.
The CD single did offer some wonderful remixes of the song that really highlighted its potential.
The song translated brilliantly on the tour too.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th June 2019, 10:33 PM

I was lucky enough to get the CD single for a good price at the time which I'm always happy about,it has some great remixes but the original remains the best.

Posted by: tommie 11th June 2019, 05:53 AM

QUOTE(Medellíam @ Jun 10 2019, 04:50 PM) *
I'd have liked a Spring 2001 single and if it couldn't be 'Your Disco Needs You' then I think 'Butterfly' would have been a great choice. It certainly packs a punch and a video had the potential to be fantastic. We know the clubs loved it so I think it would have been wise to capitalise on that. It's often felt like Kylie's team, whoever they were, were hesitant to push her club potential, like during the Let's Get To It and Impossible Princess where they favoured the more chart/radio-friendly tracks.


There's only room for one clubby Minogue and that ain't Kylie pirate.gif

I can't really argue against any of the single choices from Light Years to be honest - while I only really like Spinning Around (and I guess Your Disco Needs You, if that counts) I can see why they were chosen, even Please Stay which gets a lot of flack. They clearly didn't want to go too far with the "camp" angle, probably being too afraid that radio might've dropped her again at that point. It was, after all, a small miracle that radio actually accepted Kylie back in after she started to look like a S/A/W factory has-been.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 11th June 2019, 09:08 AM

The singles did what they needed to do and made kylie relevant again and got her back to number 1. It just so happens these singles came from her greatest album which was packed with single choices.

Posted by: pippa 11th June 2019, 01:34 PM

Light Years sums up Kylie perfectly and it was the style of album Kylie did to perfection.
As far as comebacks go Kylie really couldn't have got it any better and Fever was the natural progression in sound which ultimately capitalized on the success and renewed interest in Kylie.
Light Years was packed with potential singles and there likely was a good opportunity to go for 5th single that if marketed correctly would have went Top 10.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 11th June 2019, 03:54 PM

I've drifted more towards the opinion in recent times that 'Disco Down' could have perhaps been a single instead of 'Please Stay', over time I feel like that's generally gone down as one of her most 'non-entity'/forgettable singles in her discography.

Posted by: pippa 11th June 2019, 04:11 PM

Please Stay has the non entity tag.
Disco Down, if given 4th single treatment with Santa Baby as the b side would have worked and would have delivered a more successful and remembered 4th single.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 12th June 2019, 09:02 AM

Disco down def would have been better than please stay and I think it would have done better than please stay and also could have had Santa baby as the b side,I'm not a Santa baby fan but it has done well for kylie.

Posted by: slowdown73 12th June 2019, 01:43 PM

Light years is overall her best Parlophone album in my view. Spinning around and on a night like this we’re strong singles but I’ve never liked kids but it performed well reaching no2. Please stay was a poor choice of 4th single though. Butterfly or Light Years would have served Kylie better.

Posted by: pippa 12th June 2019, 02:21 PM

I enjoy Kids and releasing a Robbie Williams duet was the right decision at that time.
It was also 3 Top 2 hits back to back although Kids was expected my many to go all the way to Number 1.
Kylie over uses the song now on tour as i think she could give some of her other duets more airtime.
Butterfly and Light Years would have served better than Please Stay as would the divine Disco Down.
Any of the 3 may possibly have helped sell more copies of Light Years.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 12th June 2019, 03:48 PM

'Kids' is extremely pointless when she performs it on tour and I wish she'd stop.

The whole point of the song is the sexual tension/chemistry between her and Robbie, just singing it and leaving the backing singers to do Robbie's parts is redundant (and if she insists on performing it, should bring out a special guest each time).

Posted by: pippa 12th June 2019, 04:00 PM

The Bono duet worked with Kids but many of the others were pointless as are the solo renditions.

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th June 2019, 07:02 PM

QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jun 12 2019, 04:48 PM) *
'Kids' is extremely pointless when she performs it on tour and I wish she'd stop.

The whole point of the song is the sexual tension/chemistry between her and Robbie, just singing it and leaving the backing singers to do Robbie's parts is redundant (and if she insists on performing it, should bring out a special guest each time).


I think ‘Kids’ is really the only Kylie song I absolutely hate - I know lots of fans that dislike it too but Kylie seems insistent on wheeling it out on every tour sick2.gif

Posted by: Medellíam 12th June 2019, 07:08 PM

QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jun 12 2019, 04:48 PM) *
'Kids' is extremely pointless when she performs it on tour and I wish she'd stop.

The whole point of the song is the sexual tension/chemistry between her and Robbie, just singing it and leaving the backing singers to do Robbie's parts is redundant (and if she insists on performing it, should bring out a special guest each time).

Agreed. I like the song but it only works with Robbie because their chemistry is the main selling point. I know it's considered a song that appeals to the casual fans but it was perhaps the only moment that fell flat when I saw her on the Golden Tour. If she brought a special guest out, maybe it would work.

Posted by: pippa 12th June 2019, 08:59 PM

If the song was given a break on the tour it could possibly be more enjoyable on future tours.
It however is highly likely to get performed on the Glastonbury set.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 12th June 2019, 10:40 PM

It will def get performed, she might try and bag robbie for the duet.

Posted by: ___∆___ 13th June 2019, 09:57 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Jun 12 2019, 11:40 PM) *
It will def get performed, she might try and bag robbie for the duet.


Yes I think ‘Kids’ getting performed at Glastonbury is a given nocheer.gif Although I dislike it I think it will go down really well with the crowd (especially is she wheeled out Robbie or Bono to join her).

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th June 2019, 12:49 AM

Crowd will love it as outside her fan base I think the song us popular.

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