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post Jan 12 2019, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(CardiiB @ Jan 12 2019, 07:13 PM) *
Purely statistically speaking though Valentina probabaly is the worst left, maybe Naomi depending on how you ranking “High” placements
Everyone else has at least 2 wins


Agreed; Valentina slays at certain things and I love her asides... in fact she is hilarious. However she's hardly slayed this competition in a way I thought she would. Naomi has been consistent and I think she's been unlucky not to hit the top 2 in the first 3 challenges (although she was lucky to be high in the first challenge).

I'd say Valentina is one of the weaker ones left... but then given how last year went probably means shes on a lock for a final 2 position
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post Jan 12 2019, 08:00 PM
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Really?! To me she has done SO good but just paid dust really - she should've been top last week and her bottom for Snatch Game over Monet was silly!

Monet is by faaaar the weakest left imo.
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post Jan 12 2019, 09:16 PM
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Monet is the weakest left indeed. In my eyes top 4 must consist of Valentina, Trinity, Manila and Monique. But I feel Monique will be chopped pretty soon. Most likely for some silly reason sad.gif She's still my favourite. People not being able to find reasons to dislike her other than the whole brown cow stunning thing... this is her catch phrase, deal with it.

Trinity and Manila will be battling it out in the top 2. You heard it here first.
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post Jan 12 2019, 09:27 PM
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Naomi is the weakest left imo, yes she did very well on Snatch Game and the girl group challenge but I didn't really get her high for the talent show, last week was fine and this week was terrible. In terms of being an All Star, she just doesn't have *it*. I don't really get this whole "being slept on" thing, I mean she could/maybe should have been top 2 in girl groups and Snatch Game, but I think in both cases she was unlucky to be in a week with a few contenders. At Monet's best, she's capable of more than Naomi, a lot of Naomi's appeal is "wow she's funny and we didn't know". They're definitely the weakest two although I think the standard is higher than AS3 overall for sure. I can see Monet being the Kennedy of this season and making top 4 at least, SURELY Manila will be top 2 as I doubt they'll do that horrendous jury twist again but I can't help but think that she'll be cut as soon as she's bottom 2, hopefully she just isn't put there. I'd love this All Stars rules suspended thing to be kept all season as Manila could destroy pretty much all of the ones remaining in a lipsync tbh but it's only going to be for next week I expect.
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post Jan 12 2019, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(Conderella @ Jan 12 2019, 09:16 PM) *
Trinity and Manila will be battling it out in the top 2. You heard it here first.


Hopefully smile.gif I think really they are currently the most deserving, i'm hoping Trinity gets the fire back she had in the first 2-3 shows as in the first couple of episodes she was on fire. Manila has lead the charge ever since. However I can see Manila getting ousted because they don't know how she is going to eliminate the Bottom 2.
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post Jan 12 2019, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Liаm @ Jan 12 2019, 09:27 PM) *
Naomi is the weakest left imo, yes she did very well on Snatch Game and the girl group challenge but I didn't really get her high for the talent show, last week was fine and this week was terrible. In terms of being an All Star, she just doesn't have *it*. I don't really get this whole "being slept on" thing, I mean she could/maybe should have been top 2 in girl groups and Snatch Game, but I think in both cases she was unlucky to be in a week with a few contenders. At Monet's best, she's capable of more than Naomi, a lot of Naomi's appeal is "wow she's funny and we didn't know". They're definitely the weakest two although I think the standard is higher than AS3 overall for sure.


Oh Agreed on the AS3 comment - barring Shangela and Ben, there other Queens were extremely hit and miss... or have 1 moment of glory before just fading. This series has 4-5 strong contenders and whilst Manila has slayed the last 3 challenges, I do think it could go anyway.

I just hope none of the eliminated Queens return.
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post Jan 13 2019, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(ElectroBoy @ Jan 12 2019, 09:30 PM) *
Oh Agreed on the AS3 comment - barring Shangela and Ben, there other Queens were extremely hit and miss... or have 1 moment of glory before just fading. This series has 4-5 strong contenders and whilst Manila has slayed the last 3 challenges, I do think it could go anyway.

I just hope none of the eliminated Queens return.


If the rumours are right there's 2 queens returning
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post Jan 13 2019, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(Lukuzz @ Jan 13 2019, 10:28 AM) *
If the rumours are right there's 2 queens returning

TWO?? Ugh getting just one is already too much. All the eliminations so far have been fair, so none of them really deserve to come back.
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post Jan 13 2019, 02:00 PM
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Well I'm not entirely sure what's happening next week but didn't the preview show 2 of the returnees (Gia and Latrice) choosing lipsticks?

Course that could mean that all the eliminated queens are lipsyncing and whoever wins comes back at the expense of whoever they choose.


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post Jan 13 2019, 05:03 PM
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getting 2 of them back just like in AS2 is ridiculous. and it's not like Gia/Latrice/Jasmine/Farrah are anywhere near deserving to come back at the expense of the remaining queens.
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post Jan 13 2019, 05:03 PM
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I think the trailer shows all four of the returnees picking a lipstick? (or maybe that's clever editing). Maybe it's some kind of thing where they each chose one queen to put through and the remaining two have to lip sync for their lives to stay in?
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post Jan 13 2019, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(Jack @ Jan 12 2019, 08:00 PM) *
Really?! To me she has done SO good but just paid dust really - she should've been top last week and her bottom for Snatch Game over Monet was silly!

Monet is by faaaar the weakest left imo.


This exactly.

Valentina should have been SAFE WIN SAFE TOP 2 BOTTOM
Monet should have been BOTTOM WIN BOTTOM BOTTOM WIN

People take the judges placements too literally as to decide how well someone did.

Also I thought all the roasts were pretty crap. Even Manila and Monet were only 6/10.
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post Jan 13 2019, 05:46 PM
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Yeah that's my problem with them harping on and on about taking track records into account, it's a bit foggy as it is with a few of them on the same/similar level, let alone when the judges actually are wrong half the time (100% Monet should have been bottom instead of Valentina for Snatch Game and instead of Farrah in the talent show, and I really don't think Naomi or Latrice were worse in the girl group challenge so it should have been one of them top 2 with Valentina). Idk why they act like the judges are the be all and end all, ofc they're there for eliminations but like I said I think Manila is right when she said if you win you make the decision how you want to, I guess it's another reward for winning. It's not always clear who to eliminate based on track records, I'm not 100% on eliminating "threats" either but at least that's a bit dramatic. Every queen always has had a slightly different way of going about it and that's part of the fun!

I'd have probs had:

Week 1:
WIN: Monique, Trinity
High - Gia
Safe: Valentina, Latrice, Naomi
Low: Farrah
Bottom 2: Monet, Jasmine

Week 2
WIN: Valentina, Naomi
High - Latrice
Safe: Monet, Monique, Trinity
Low: Manila (I kinda love her on the studio version though laugh.gif)
Bottom 2: Farrah, Gia

Week 3:
WIN: Manila, Trinity
High: Naomi
Safe: Valentina, Monique
Low: Latrice
Bottom 2: Monet, Gia

Week 4:
WIN: Monique, Manila
High: Valentina
Safe: Naomi
Low: Trinity
Bottom 2: Monet, Latrice

Week 5:
WIN: Manila, Monet
High: Monique
Safe: Valentina
Bottom 2: Trinity, Naomi


As for this returnee twist, seeing as it's lipsync for your life, it's quite convenient that there's a bottom 4 and 4 returnees (I assume Manila and Monet have immunity) so I wonder if it's going to be 4 lipsyncs with them all paired up and whoever wins stays? I doubt that Jasmine, Farrah or Gia would really pose much of a threat to any of the ones left, Latrice could wipe the floor with most of them in a lipsync bar maybe Manila so we'd probably only get her back laugh.gif I don't know where the lipsticks would factor into that though, so idk. I guess they could pick who they go against, but who would choose to go against Trinity in a lipsync, plus what if they picked the same one? We'll see i guess, I agree though I'd be more than fine with none of them coming back. Everyone left is a step up from the ones who've gone, even Naomi or Monet who are probably the weakest for me, so it'd be a shame for any of them to lose out in favour of the eliminated queens. Like, Latrice is a good queen but we all know even she'd last another challenge or two max and would hardly contend for the win. I'm fine for this twist as I'm sure it'll bring drama but I'm good with them just leaving again afterwards laugh.gif
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post Jan 13 2019, 06:08 PM
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I think I pretty much agree with all of your placements Liam other than maybe I would have had Monet high over Latrice in week 2. I’d have had Val top 2 in week 4, but I think her messy runway is justifiable to push her down to 3rd.
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post Jan 19 2019, 11:14 AM
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those lip syncs!!! literally right decisions made all across the board. monique turned it the f*** out tho!!
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i'm terrified for manila i think she could go next week based on that preview sad.gif sad.gif
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post Jan 19 2019, 11:49 AM
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I SCREAMED when Monique revealed that wig. YASSSSSSS *.*

Latrice's outfit was absolutely HORRENDOUS and her twirling was so out of place and weird. I don't understand this decision and she fell down in my rankings HARD after this episode. What's with all the bitterness and acting as if Monet going home was the only viable option ever? :/// Her to go in the next couple of weeks plz.

Also a bit annoyed that Valentina would've gone home had nothing changed and we would've been down to only 4 queens. But instead we have SEVEN now... :|
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post Jan 19 2019, 11:49 AM
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outside of the last 2 lip syncs the episode was weak and brought nothing to the table.

no thank u, next
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post Jan 19 2019, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(hiadtfawlmthbihi @ Jan 19 2019, 11:14 AM) *
i'm terrified for manila i think she could go next week based on that preview sad.gif sad.gif

If she does, it's just another Shangela/Alyssa situation. sad.gif

I suspect Trinity will win, keeping up the theme of white blonde queens winning All Stars.
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post Jan 19 2019, 12:43 PM
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Naomi Smalls went and gave us the best god damn lip sync of the season.

I enjoyed them all actually, I think Gia did great, Trintiy did good but not her best, Valentina turned it out given she had the hardest song, Monique and Latrice were great, but Latrice’s runway was hideous.
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