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post 14th May 2024, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ 14th May 2024, 08:34 AM) *
I think it's an oversimplification saying that only UK artists care about the UK charts


I still remember Camilla Cabello who is American screaming in delight when she was told on Radio 1 that she was the UK number 1.
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post 14th May 2024, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(zenon @ 14th May 2024, 06:02 PM) *
I still remember Camilla Cabello who is American screaming in delight when she was told on Radio 1 that she was the UK number 1.


And I’m sure being in the radio and them expecting a reaction had nothing to do with it biggrin.gif
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post 14th May 2024, 05:40 PM
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Sabrina now has £2.99 cds (plus £2.75 shipping) on her store shipping Thursday so looks like they’re keen to keep the #1 from posty this week. Cassettes and vinyls singles still shipping 7th of June though
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post 14th May 2024, 05:41 PM
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Really thing were reaching the point where physicals shouldn't count towards the chart.
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post 14th May 2024, 05:47 PM
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oh poor Post Malone, really thought he had a chance but if Sabrina has physicals

at least nowadays physicals are pretty expensive
the thing that Lewis/Ed used to do with 99p signed CDs + free shipping, that was a joke and wrong and that's why they changed the rules
but physicals should definitely count
at least people spend $$$$ in music
many streaming on Spotify use to free version
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post 14th May 2024, 06:13 PM
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Physicals should count but certain occasions seem like a cheating tactic more than anything else and this is one of them really. Been number 1 two weeks already, streaming good, was this really necessary? I don't think so. If it wasn't chart related and just was planned anyway fair enough but probably wasn't.
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post 14th May 2024, 08:31 PM
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I personally would make the rule that labels have to release physicals on one specific week. This new trend (Perrie really is taking the biscuit) where they are dispatching them in batches to extend a chart run is just plain chart rigging.

You wouldn't let an artist hold back streams to be added into a different week or downloads, so why are they allowing this with physicals.

All formats must have the same release date.
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post 14th May 2024, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(sammy01 @ 14th May 2024, 09:31 PM) *
I personally would make the rule that labels have to release physicals on one specific week. This new trend (Perrie really is taking the biscuit) where they are dispatching them in batches to extend a chart run is just plain chart rigging.

You wouldn't let an artist hold back streams to be added into a different week or downloads, so why are they allowing this with physicals.

All formats must have the same release date.


I don’t think it really matters. By choosing the staggered approach, she’s sacrificed getting a higher first week peak.
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post 14th May 2024, 09:02 PM
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In general I quite like artists who care about the charts being able to use physicals to their advantage. I do disagree with the rule that CD sales only count on despatch being exploited, so the fans might purchase 10k over a period of a few weeks and they’re all dumped on the chart in the week when there’s a close #1 battle. Those sales don’t belong to that week in my view.
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post 14th May 2024, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(Scene @ 14th May 2024, 09:49 PM) *
I don’t think it really matters. By choosing the staggered approach, she’s sacrificed getting a higher first week peak.


It does matter. Imagine Taylor released her album sales from her store in batches or by format week after week, she could be number 1 on the album chart from months on months.

Whether it is to extend a chart run or to boost certain weeks, essentially holding a load of physical sales and releasing them when/if it suits is chart rigging.

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post 14th May 2024, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(sammy01 @ 14th May 2024, 10:04 PM) *
It does matter. Imagine Taylor released her album sales from her store in batches or by format week after week, she could be number 1 on the album chart from months on months.

Whether it is to extend a chart run or to boost certain weeks, essentially holding a load of physical sales and releasing them when/if it suits is chart rigging.


100% It's sinilar to what Westshite did, relessing a million variants and relwasing on quiet weeks.
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post 14th May 2024, 09:12 PM
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I disagree physical realise should be encouraged not restricted as unlike streams it is real sales, if that means allowing last minute realises so be it.
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post 15th May 2024, 06:57 AM
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I think in Perrie's case it's more releaasing them when they become available to them from production than holding them back
sure they would have preferred a top 3 with 7 weeks in the chart rather than a low top 10 with 20 weeks in the chart
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post 15th May 2024, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(sammy01 @ 14th May 2024, 10:04 PM) *
It does matter. Imagine Taylor released her album sales from her store in batches or by format week after week, she could be number 1 on the album chart from months on months.

Whether it is to extend a chart run or to boost certain weeks, essentially holding a load of physical sales and releasing them when/if it suits is chart rigging.


But there's always been some chart rigging to a degree such as releasing different versions of a song on download over different weeks (didn't Katy do this a lot in her TD era?) That said, it's pretty crappy for fans to have to wait weeks for a purchase they spent a lot of money for, just to add a few more weeks to its chart run.
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post 15th May 2024, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(JulianT @ 14th May 2024, 10:02 PM) *
In general I quite like artists who care about the charts being able to use physicals to their advantage. I do disagree with the rule that CD sales only count on despatch being exploited, so the fans might purchase 10k over a period of a few weeks and they’re all dumped on the chart in the week when there’s a close #1 battle. Those sales don’t belong to that week in my view.


That's basically what happened with 'Vampire' if I remember rightly?

That always struck me as really quite shady tbh.
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post 15th May 2024, 04:36 PM
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Music Week Top 40 Sales Flash

Singles

1 Post Malone feat. Morgan Wallen - I Had Some Help (45,636) *
2 Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso (44,701)
3 Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY (36,721)
4 Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy) (36,292)
5 Hozier - Too Sweet (35,286)

6-10
7 Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us

11-20
11 Mark Ambor - Belong Together
13 Myles Smith - Stargazing *
14 Taylor Swift - Down Bad
15 Michael Marcagi - Scared to Start
17 Benson Boone - Slow It Down
18 The Blessed Madonna feat. Clementine Douglas - Happier
20 Nemo - The Code *

21-30
24 David Guetta & OneRepublic - I Don't Wanna Wait
30 Rudimental & Skepsis feat. Charlotte Plank & Riko Dan - Green & Gold

31-40
32 Harry Styles - As It Was ^
34 SZA - Saturn
35 Beyoncé - TEXAS HOLD 'EM
37 Baby Lasagna - Rim Tim Tagi Dim *
38 Olly Alexander - Dizzy *

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Albums (Top 100)

1 Taylor Swift - THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT (18,011) [15,456 streaming, 2,232 physicals, 323 downloads]
2 Kings of Leon - Can We Please Have Fun (16,347) *
3 Keane - Hopes and Fears (6,232) ^
4 Dua Lipa - Radical Optimism (6,048)
5 Gunna - One of Wun (4,989) *

6-10
10 Elton John - Diamonds

11-20
11 Queen - Rock Montreal ^
14 Bob Marley & the Wailers - Legend
15 Bugzy Malone - The Great British Dream *
18 Gabrielle - A Place In Your Heart *
19 Post Malone - The Diamond Collection

21-30
21 Oasis - Time Flies: 1994-2009
24 Knocked Loose - You Won't Go Before You're Supposed To *
25 Teddy Swims - I've Tried Everything But Therapy (Part 1)
27 Taylor Swift - Lover
28 Taylor Swift - 1989 (Taylor's Version)
29 BIG SPECIAL - POSTINDUSTRIAL HOMETOWN BLUES *

31-40
33 Arab Strap - I'm totally fine with it 👍 don't give a fuck anymore 👍 *
34 Jordan Rakei - The Loop *
38 Taylor Swift - folklore
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post 15th May 2024, 04:37 PM
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Bye bye Kings of Flop!
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post 15th May 2024, 04:41 PM
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Get close number 1
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post 15th May 2024, 04:42 PM
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Radical Floptimism holding up much better than anyone expected! I wonder how many weeks TTPD is going to hog the top spot this year unsure.gif
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post 15th May 2024, 04:44 PM
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Poor Olly almost out sad.gif
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